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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

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mackilla ::

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Zakaj bi jih napadali, če lahko lepo počakajo na ukrajinsko protiofenzivo?


Ker se je SVO začela na prošnjo tamkajšnjih oblastnikov, da se končno naredi konec 8-letnemu granatiranju trpečih civilistov v Donecku s strani nacističnega režima v Kijivu.
Potem pa gredo in naredijo Mariupol. Lisčansk. Mariinko. Volnovaho. Rubižne. Popasno. Liman. Severodoneck. Bahmut.
Za češnjico na torti pa kar se njih tiče bombardirajo še ruske državljane v Hersonu. Bil referendum pa to.

Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.


Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani. Ker imajo premoč v artileriji in v zraku, jim čisto odgovarja trenutna pozicijska vojna. Še zahod jim gre na roko, ko sili Ukrajince v napad na utrjeno rusko obrambo. Ko bodo enkrati uničili ukrajinsko vojsko, bodo lahko zasedli celo Ukrajino brez odpora. Če se seveda ne vmeša NATO. Prebivalstvo bo pač moralo do zmage še naprej trpeti ukrajinsko obstreljevanje, takšna je pač realnost vojne.

Nobenemu ne odgovarja pozicijska vojna. Najmanj žrtev bi imeli z hitro zmago. A misliš,da je komu odgovarjalo bojevanje kot je bilo v prvi svetovni vojni. Rusi pač niso ne sposobni in ne opremljeni za kaj drugega. Prebivalstvo bo moralo trpeti predvsem rusko obstreljevanje. Saj si sam napisal,da imajo več artilerije,ki je seveda tudi manj natančna.


Nice coping, ko Ukrajincem zmanjkuje streliva, so kar naenkrat bolj natančni z artilerijo. Zahodna propaganda še prijema vidim.
Sicer pa Rusi imajo veliko premoč v artileriji in zadnje čase so z letali zmeraj bolj aktivni, z vodenimi 1.500kg bombami neovirano napadajo Ukrajince, tako da ne razumem zakaj jim ne bi odgovarjala trenutna pozicijska vojna. Pa še Ukrajinci imajo napačno taktiko, ko dovažajo nove in nove vojake v izgubljeno pozicijo v Bakhmut. Ukrajinci so prisiljeni v ofenzivo, ki bo pa zelo tvegana, velike žrtve so garantirane, uspeh pa še zdaleč ne.

Ni kar naenkrat Ukrajinska artilerija bolj natančna ampak je to že od dobave zahodne artilerije in granat. Rusom bi najbolj odgovarjalo,da bi se vojna zaključna lani februarja. To,da jim odgovarja vojna,ki se vleče je predvsem copium tebe in rusofilskih blogerjev. Če bi imel možnost of the record pogovora z ruskimi generali bi ti povedali,da nimaš pojma. Kaj je bolj odgovarjalo Nemcem? Prva svetovna vojna z štirimi leti obstreljevanja jarkov in milijonskimi izgubami ali druga svetovna vojna,ko so pregazili Francijo z minimalnimi žrtvami? Razni bedaki,ki govorijo kako vojna poteka po planu bi morali priti v roke Wagnerjevcem,ko očitno umirajo za brezveze:D

bbbbbb2015 ::

mackilla je izjavil:

Ni kar naenkrat Ukrajinska artilerija bolj natančna ampak je to že od dobave zahodne artilerije in granat. Rusom bi najbolj odgovarjalo,da bi se vojna zaključna lani februarja. To,da jim odgovarja vojna,ki se vleče je predvsem copium tebe in rusofilskih blogerjev. Če bi imel možnost of the record pogovora z ruskimi generali bi ti povedali,da nimaš pojma. Kaj je bolj odgovarjalo Nemcem? Prva svetovna vojna z štirimi leti obstreljevanja jarkov in milijonskimi izgubami ali druga svetovna vojna,ko so pregazili Francijo z minimalnimi žrtvami? Razni bedaki,ki govorijo kako vojna poteka po planu bi morali priti v roke Wagnerjevcem,ko očitno umirajo za brezveze:D


Natančnost artilerije je predvsem odvisna od spotterjev in kako hitro lahko havbica ustreli na popravek. To in nič več in tudi nič manj.

Stara sovjetska artilerija je počasnejša predvsem v elementih namerjanja.

Jaz Excalibur in ostale vodene granate (PGK):
M1156 Precision Guidance Kit @ Wikipedia

ne bi jemal za referenco, ker je tega premalo. Kar so Rusi delali na začetku, da so streljali na lastne ljudi, je bilo bolj zaradi tega, ker niso pravilno izračunali elevacije cevi.

Kakorkoli, havbica prvič nameri in ustreli. To je na 20+km lahko pogrešek tudi do 300m, v praksi 50m. Ko spotter javi, koliko je bil strel mimo, artilerijci uštimajo popravek po elevaciji in kotnem odmiku cevi. Potem ustrelijo še enkrat in to je potem na 5 do 12m natančno. Bolj natančno pa ne gre, ker se vremenski pogoji spreminjajo.

mackilla ::

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Ni kar naenkrat Ukrajinska artilerija bolj natančna ampak je to že od dobave zahodne artilerije in granat. Rusom bi najbolj odgovarjalo,da bi se vojna zaključna lani februarja. To,da jim odgovarja vojna,ki se vleče je predvsem copium tebe in rusofilskih blogerjev. Če bi imel možnost of the record pogovora z ruskimi generali bi ti povedali,da nimaš pojma. Kaj je bolj odgovarjalo Nemcem? Prva svetovna vojna z štirimi leti obstreljevanja jarkov in milijonskimi izgubami ali druga svetovna vojna,ko so pregazili Francijo z minimalnimi žrtvami? Razni bedaki,ki govorijo kako vojna poteka po planu bi morali priti v roke Wagnerjevcem,ko očitno umirajo za brezveze:D


Natančnost artilerije je predvsem odvisna od spotterjev in kako hitro lahko havbica ustreli na popravek. To in nič več in tudi nič manj.

Stara sovjetska artilerija je počasnejša predvsem v elementih namerjanja.

Jaz Excalibur in ostale vodene granate (PGK):
M1156 Precision Guidance Kit @ Wikipedia

ne bi jemal za referenco, ker je tega premalo. Kar so Rusi delali na začetku, da so streljali na lastne ljudi, je bilo bolj zaradi tega, ker niso pravilno izračunali elevacije cevi.

Kakorkoli, havbica prvič nameri in ustreli. To je na 20+km lahko pogrešek tudi do 300m, v praksi 50m. Ko spotter javi, koliko je bil strel mimo, artilerijci uštimajo popravek po elevaciji in kotnem odmiku cevi. Potem ustrelijo še enkrat in to je potem na 5 do 12m natančno. Bolj natančno pa ne gre, ker se vremenski pogoji spreminjajo.


Tako nekako. Da ne bomo brali samo rambutanovega copiuma:D


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine...

While Russia has stuck mainly to Soviet doctrine of massed area fires, Ukraine uses artillery fire as a long-range sniper weapon to pick off individual targets. This has been made possible with the widespread use of two innovations: small drones for artillery spotting, coupled with cheap tablet computers running software like Nettle system to direct.

Back in 2014, Ukrainian volunteer organization Army-SOS set out to use its technical skill to help the military. They initially helped soldiers fly and support drones, but soon found the biggest problem was using the data gathered by drone operators efficiently. So they developed Kropyva ("Nettle") proprietary intelligence mapping software, which can run on any Android tablet.

In March 2022, Oleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the office of President Volodymyr Zelensky, told the media that a standard platoon defensive position took normally took 60-90 artillery rounds to destroy, but with drone-guided fire this was reduced to just 9 rounds, and that drones had been supplied to all artillery units. This suggests an improvement of a factor of 7-10, which is roughly what we see in the ratios of artillery shells: casualties above.

Malidelničar ::

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Tidule ::

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Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani.


Potem varčujejo z vojaki, ne civilisti? Ker prebivalci Donecka so za Rusijo Rusi.

Bi si želel živet v državi, kjer se prebivalci smatrajo kot živi ščit za vojsko?

Kot sem napisal

Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.


Tako je, če bi hoteli hitro prodreti skozi ukrajinske obrambne linije, ki so jih Ukiji utrjevali od 2014, bi verjetno utrpeli velike človeške izgube. Takšna je pač realnost, isto se bo pokazalo pri ukrajisnki ofenzivi, kjer bodo imeli ogromne izgube, uspeh pa je dvomljiv. Če jo bodo Ukrajinci sploh izvedli, se mi zdi da se zavedajo, da bo neuspeh ofenzive za njih zapečatil usodo.


A zato se se ustavili lani par kilometrov pred kijevom? Ker so naleteli na utrjene obrambne klinije okrog kijeva? jao, pravljice...

Rambutan ::

primoz4p ::

Stara stvar :P)




o0o0o0o0o0 ::

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The Times pravi, da so Ukiji prisiljeni v ofenzivo, čeprav niso pripravljeni. To ni niti presenetljivo, če niso sposobni ubraniti niti Bakhmuta, kako bodo sposobni izvesti uspešen napad na dobro utrjene ruske položaje.


Resno? Rusi že eno leto ne morejo osvojiti mesta in to je fail UA? LOL

Aja saj res, Rusi namenoma nočejo osvojiti mesta, tako kot niso hoteli Kijev.
Pa še NATO skladišča so spraznili, tako da se ukrajinci branijo z lopatami.

Pac-Man ::

Ni Mariupol obnovljen?

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/165...
another russian went to Mariupol, took pics among the ruins and then posted the photos with "#russia #travel #instagood #amazing".
Well, I retweet this now with the hashtag #NAFO #NAFOarticle5

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No ja, verjetno ni nič slabše od povprečnega mesta v ruskih provincah. #kotdoma
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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mackilla ::

mackilla ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ni Mariupol obnovljen?

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/165...
another russian went to Mariupol, took pics among the ruins and then posted the photos with "#russia #travel #instagood #amazing".
Well, I retweet this now with the hashtag #NAFO #NAFOarticle5

 daljnovod ima potrgane kable

daljnovod ima potrgane kable



No ja, verjetno ni nič slabše od povprečnega mesta v ruskih provincah. #kotdoma

Ni neke razlike:D


BorutO ::

In potem Rusi pravijo, da so Američani za vse krivi ... Ko jih bodo američani imeli enkrat poln spodnji organ, bodo jih res dobili po spodnjem organu ... Očitno rusi komaj čakajo, da začnejo vojno še z američani, neposredno.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ar...

Pac-Man ::

V 16ih minutah razstavi idejo, da se NATO sile borijo v Ukrajini/Rusiji

Are NATO forces directly engaging Russia? (No)
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Rambutan ::

Zgleda, da bodo morali Ukiji še povečati natančnost svoje artilerije8-)

https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/prezi...

"From the negotiations that I conducted in Ukraine - and there were a lot of them, both at the central level and at the level of one region - it became quite clear that what Ukraine needs most of all today for a successful defense is ammunition," said Pavel after arriving at the military airport in Prague's Kbely.

"Technology is of course also lacking, but the critical shortage of ammunition not only limits Ukraine's ability to effectively defend itself, but to some extent also limits its ability to carry out a successful counter-offensive. And if they are to regain control over the occupied territory, which Russia has aggressively held for more than a year, then there really is no other way but a counter-offensive," continued the retired army general. According to him, the Russians have an advantage in artillery main guns and rocket launchers, but above all in the number of ammunition - they fire four to five times what the Ukrainians do every day.

According to him, the Allies supply Ukraine with very effective equipment, such as modern tanks, but with an absolutely minimal amount of ammunition. The Ukrainians can only deploy the machines for a few days, and then they have to take them back. "It basically becomes warehouse goods. And that really doesn't make much sense," Pavel pointed out.

Pac-Man ::

Pa da vidimo, če bo tokrat šla skozi povezava Rusije z imperializmom. Sumim, da so vsi pro-ruski moderatorji z MMCja na Rožniku :)

Tole čaka odobritev:

Rusi umirajo za mejni kamen, Ukrajinci in njihovi somišljeniki pa v boju proti imperializmu. Nit:


https://twitter.com/ahatanhel/status/16...


19. aprila 2023 je v bitki pri Bakhmutu umrl ruski anarhist Dmitry Petrov alias Ilya Leshiy. V ukrajinski vojski se je boril proti ruski imperialni agresiji. Njegovo smrt so potrdili včeraj. 1/9

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Ding ding ding, komentar objavljen @20:44

https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...

Zdaj čakam, če preživi prvomajske praznike.
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avani ::

Če koga zanima kaj politike, danes sem našel zanimiv tvit

Vova je naročil Šojguju, da naj osvoji bahmut do 9.5. problem je njegov odnos z prigozinom, ker se gledata kot pes in mačka. Prigozinove grožnje z orožjem nakazujejo na zelo zanimiv možen scenarij. Tik pred osvojitvijo se bo Wagner umaknil iz bahmuta, vakuum bodo napolnili Ukrajinci in sojgu bo letel.


Več pa tukaj:



https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1...

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mackilla ::

Rambutan je izjavil:

Zgleda, da bodo morali Ukiji še povečati natančnost svoje artilerije8-)

https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/prezi...

"From the negotiations that I conducted in Ukraine - and there were a lot of them, both at the central level and at the level of one region - it became quite clear that what Ukraine needs most of all today for a successful defense is ammunition," said Pavel after arriving at the military airport in Prague's Kbely.

"Technology is of course also lacking, but the critical shortage of ammunition not only limits Ukraine's ability to effectively defend itself, but to some extent also limits its ability to carry out a successful counter-offensive. And if they are to regain control over the occupied territory, which Russia has aggressively held for more than a year, then there really is no other way but a counter-offensive," continued the retired army general. According to him, the Russians have an advantage in artillery main guns and rocket launchers, but above all in the number of ammunition - they fire four to five times what the Ukrainians do every day.

According to him, the Allies supply Ukraine with very effective equipment, such as modern tanks, but with an absolutely minimal amount of ammunition. The Ukrainians can only deploy the machines for a few days, and then they have to take them back. "It basically becomes warehouse goods. And that really doesn't make much sense," Pavel pointed out.

Vidim,da te matrajo odnosi z javnostjo. Tako se pripravlja javnosti na to,da je potrebno Ukrajini povečati pomoč. Kaj bi ti rad? Da reče,da imajo Ukrajinci vsega dovolj in da je nadaljnja pomoč nepotrebna?:D Kakšni dogovori pa potekajo v ozadju ti pa seveda ne bo razlagal,ker ne rabiš vedeti:D

bbbbbb2015 ::

avani je izjavil:

Če koga zanima kaj politike, danes sem našel zanimiv tvit

Vova je naročil Šojguju, da naj osvoji bahmut do 9.5. problem je njegov odnos z prigozinom, ker se gledata kot pes in mačka. Prigozinove grožnje z orožjem nakazujejo na zelo zanimiv možen scenarij. Tik pred osvojitvijo se bo Wagner umaknil iz bahmuta, vakuum bodo napolnili Ukrajinci in sojgu bo letel.
Več pa tukaj:
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1...


Čeprav v Rusiji nič ni nemogoče, je to zelo remote scenarij.

Sigurno si Rusi prizadevajo "osvojiti" Bakut, morda bi potem bili "zadovoljni" in ne bi šli osvajat celega Donbasa. Bakmut je bil mišljen kot PR stunt, to so celo Zelenski & Ukrajinci pogruntali.
Simbolika prvomajske proslave bo - da ne bo simbolike. Wagner se morda res namerava umakniti iz Bakmuta. Dejansko so jim zvezali roke na več frontah. Morda se Wagner sploh namerava umakniti iz teh vojn. Sumljivo na dolgo razlaga, kje so vse kratki. Tudi ne verjamem, da so wagnerjevci bistveno profitirali v teh vojnah. Po moje so v Afriki več denarja zaslužili.

Verjamem pa, da bodo regularne ruske sile poskušale stopiti noter v vakum, če se bo to res zgodilo. Samo, če se wagner umakne, je pa wagnerja pa dejansko tudi konec. Imajo enega samega naročnika, ki so ga ravnokar zajebali. Hote, nehote.

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mojsterleo ::

Baje so vojaške ladje zapustile Sevastopol. V zraku sta dve eskadrilji Tu-95 (17). Tole bo peklenska noč. Upam da se ne bo ofenziva končala še preden se dobro začne. ;((

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Rambutan ::

mojsterleo je izjavil:

Baje so vojaške ladje zapustile Sevastopol. V zraku sta dve eskadrilji Tu-95 (17). Tole bo peklenska noč. Upam da se ne bo ofenziva končala še preden se dobro začne. ;((


Pavlovgrad napaden z raketami.

Rudenko writes

⚡️ In Pavlograd, due to the detonation of the BC as a result of the arrival of our missiles, the windows of the residents of the city flew out in many apartments. Apparently, the warehouse was filled to the brim with ammunition

Unprecedented strike on enemy air defence - multiple S-300 launchers destroyed in Pavlograd

According to Readovka's source, after the Russian Armed Forces carried out a night strike on the Pavlograd railway junction, eyewitnesses have reported a mass detonation of anti-aircraft missiles for the S-300 complex. According to our information, two divisions (up to 16 units) of S-300P were destroyed. In addition, supply vehicles with reserve ammunition were hit.

A huge fire volcano has erupted over the city and the detonation of rockets has continued for almost an hour.
The enemy's air defences are severely damaged.

Also, news starts to emerge about huge casualties among AFU forces. Waiting for confirmation of that news, but I think we won't be able to verify it with certainty.

Stikalo ::

Ukrajincem bi moral zahod že zdavnaj dati tehnologijo oz rakete dolgega dosedga da bi rusom stolkli letala globoko v RU območju. Potem bi bilo veliko lažje, ne pa da lovijo te manevrirne rakete z ogromno portiraketno infrastruktro. Ne vem kaj se zahod tako špara.

clancy ::

Ukrajinci vrnili napade po Melitpolu Urzufu, Mangushu, Ahrobazi, Kasyanivki in Berdyansku:

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...

Rambutan ::

Stikalo je izjavil:

Ukrajincem bi moral zahod že zdavnaj dati tehnologijo oz rakete dolgega dosedga da bi rusom stolkli letala globoko v RU območju. Potem bi bilo veliko lažje, ne pa da lovijo te manevrirne rakete z ogromno portiraketno infrastruktro. Ne vem kaj se zahod tako špara.


Hja, verjetno so po vsakem ruskem napadu mislili, zdaj jim je pa res zmanjkalo raket8-)

Chalky ::

BREAKING:

Russia has just launched a massive wave of missile strikes against Ukraine.More than 20 TU-95/TU-160s bombers are in the air and Kalibr missiles have also been launched from ships/subs The missiles will reach Ukraine in 20-30 minutes It's 3AM and people are asleep.

Ob treh ponoči ko ljudje spijo. Upam da ne bodo ciljali civilnih objektov vendar se bojim da bo ravno to cilj.

tattoo ::

A bodo na tak način izčrpali zračno obrambo in s tem ohramili ofenzivo, ki ne bo imela zračnega kritja?

gozdar1 ::

Rambutan je izjavil:

mojsterleo je izjavil:

Baje so vojaške ladje zapustile Sevastopol. V zraku sta dve eskadrilji Tu-95 (17). Tole bo peklenska noč. Upam da se ne bo ofenziva končala še preden se dobro začne. ;((


Pavlovgrad napaden z raketami.

Rudenko writes

⚡️ In Pavlograd, due to the detonation of the BC as a result of the arrival of our missiles, the windows of the residents of the city flew out in many apartments. Apparently, the warehouse was filled to the brim with ammunition

Unprecedented strike on enemy air defence - multiple S-300 launchers destroyed in Pavlograd

According to Readovka's source, after the Russian Armed Forces carried out a night strike on the Pavlograd railway junction, eyewitnesses have reported a mass detonation of anti-aircraft missiles for the S-300 complex. According to our information, two divisions (up to 16 units) of S-300P were destroyed. In addition, supply vehicles with reserve ammunition were hit.

A huge fire volcano has erupted over the city and the detonation of rockets has continued for almost an hour.
The enemy's air defences are severely damaged.

Also, news starts to emerge about huge casualties among AFU forces. Waiting for confirmation of that news, but I think we won't be able to verify it with certainty.


V resnici so verjetno zadeli tovarno raketnega goriva, ki se nahaja v tem mestu še od sovjetskih časov.

mackilla ::

Rambutan je izjavil:

Stikalo je izjavil:

Ukrajincem bi moral zahod že zdavnaj dati tehnologijo oz rakete dolgega dosedga da bi rusom stolkli letala globoko v RU območju. Potem bi bilo veliko lažje, ne pa da lovijo te manevrirne rakete z ogromno portiraketno infrastruktro. Ne vem kaj se zahod tako špara.


Hja, verjetno so po vsakem ruskem napadu mislili, zdaj jim je pa res zmanjkalo raket8-)

Zakaj pa niso enostavno uničili ukrajinske obrambe že v prvem mesecu,če imajo dovolj raket:D Američani so uničili iraško in niso delali nobenih premorov:D Malce ti šepa logika.

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Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/VojtechPr/status/16...
Ukrainian sources say it was 38 old ballistic missiles (SS-24) with 1,800 tons of rocket fuel. They were stored at the Pavlohrad Chemical Plant. They were not decommissioned due to lack of funds. (This was the case until 2019).




RT-23 Molodets @ Wikipedia

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bbbbbb2015 ::

mojsterleo je izjavil:

Baje so vojaške ladje zapustile Sevastopol. V zraku sta dve eskadrilji Tu-95 (17). Tole bo peklenska noč. Upam da se ne bo ofenziva končala še preden se dobro začne. ;((


Vojaške ladje nimajo kje tankati. Poleg tega Rusi niso ziher, kaj vse Ukrajinci imajo za njih. Taktični umik ni nečasten ali sramoten. Umakniti se, je vedno bolje, kot da ti uničijo ladjo, pa se potem matraš potegniti jo iz dna morja. Pa na koncu potone, pa ne moreš rešiti čisto nič.

Jaz bi na mestu Rusov naredil enako. Pravzaprav bi imel stopnje taktičnega umika pripravljene že prej.

bbbbbb2015 ::

mackilla je izjavil:

Rambutan je izjavil:

Stikalo je izjavil:

Ukrajincem bi moral zahod že zdavnaj dati tehnologijo oz rakete dolgega dosedga da bi rusom stolkli letala globoko v RU območju. Potem bi bilo veliko lažje, ne pa da lovijo te manevrirne rakete z ogromno portiraketno infrastruktro. Ne vem kaj se zahod tako špara.


Hja, verjetno so po vsakem ruskem napadu mislili, zdaj jim je pa res zmanjkalo raket8-)

Zakaj pa niso enostavno uničili ukrajinske obrambe že v prvem mesecu,če imajo dovolj raket:D Američani so uničili iraško in niso delali nobenih premorov:D Malce ti šepa logika.


Zdaj se že ve, zakaj jih niso mogli uničiti. Ukrajinci so opremo prestavljali iz lokacije na lokacijo, sploh mobilne sisteme in letala. Tudi municijo so prestavljali, kolikor je to šlo.

Ukrajinci so se zavedali, da imajo (morda!) vohune med svojimi vrstami, trajalo je cca 40 - 48 ur, preden bi se Rusi zavedali nove lokacije. Plan za prestavljanje so imeli že prej, to so Zelenskemu in vladi svetovali že prej. Mislim, da so začeli z rotacijo par dni pred napadom. Zelenski se je bal, da premiki vojske ne bi dali Rusom izgovor, da bi napadli.

o0o0o0o0o0 ::

Če ste se kdaj spraševali, kakšna je višja ruska tehnologija

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...

Rambutan ::

o0o0o0o0o0 je izjavil:

Če ste se kdaj spraševali, kakšna je višja ruska tehnologija

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...


Rusi so že 3 dni nazaj objavili posnetke podobnega ukrajinskega lesenega drona. Na sliki se lepo vidi tudi motor, ki je izdelan v tovarni EME iz Poljske. Nemogoče da bi ga Poljaki prodali Rusom. Tako da NOEL spet zavaja.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/43655

Sicer ni nič narobe z lesenimi droni, letijo isto kot kovinski. Rusi pač imajo svojo tovarno dronov Kalashnikov, zato jim ni treba modelariti iz lesa kot Ukiji.

https://twitter.com/sandro_pozzi/status...

Ruski Lancet droni so mimogrede zelo učinkoviti, na spletu imaš dosti posnetkov kako uničujejo ukrajinsko opremo. Ne vidi se pa ukrajinskih posnetkov8-)

https://twitter.com/search?q=lancet%20d...

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mojsterleo ::

mojsterleo je izjavil:

Baje so vojaške ladje zapustile Sevastopol. V zraku sta dve eskadrilji Tu-95 (17). Tole bo peklenska noč. Upam da se ne bo ofenziva končala še preden se dobro začne. ;((
Tresla se je gora, rodila se je miš. :) Vsa ta panika za brezveze. Rusi so izstrelili samo 18 raket, 15 je bilo sestreljenih.
Zadeto je bilo skladišče raket v Pavlogradu in železniška postaja.... no tokrat so Rusi vsaj zadeli nekaj vojaškega.

Pac-Man ::

nitka z malo dialoga na koncu

https://twitter.com/noclador/status/165...

A quick explainer for the reasons russia's invasion of Ukraine can only be defeated in the South:
There are five major (green pentagons) and five minor (purple) geographic points that are the main objectives for russia to told and for Ukraine to liberate.

The 5 major points are:
• Donetsk
• Luhansk
• Mariupol
• Melitopol
• Simferopol

The 5 minor points are:
• Berdyansk
• Enerhodar
• Perekop (the gate to Crimea)
• Kerch
• Starobilsk (the main logistic node in Northern Luhansk)

Three of the five major and four of the five minor points are in the South and Crimea.
Not only does an offensive (blue arrows) in the South and towards Crimea gain Ukraine much more decisive locations, the terrain in the South is also much more conductive to the fast paced armored warfare Ukraine has been equipped and trained for.

Last but not least: an attack in the South has much less flank to cover against a russian counterattack than an attack in the North. The red lines approximately show the flanks that need to be covered for an offensive operation. In the North more units are needed to cover the flanks than needed for the advance to Starobilsk. And once Starobilsk is reached the only other viable objective is Luhansk... through forests and over rivers.

On the other hand in the South much less units are needed for cover the flanks and once i.e. Mariupol has been reached another two objectives (Berdyansk, Melitopol) can be liberated. Once either of those are liberated the advance can continue to further major and minor points. And while in Northern Luhansk russia can bring in reinforcements from russia... once Mariupol is reached the russians in the South and Crimea are cut off and doomed.

In short, as everyone knows, the main offensive will be in the South and the offensive's last mission objective will be the liberation of Kerch.

VPR:
This entire thing presumes that the Russians around Tokmak / Zaporhizia / Melitopol wouldn't be able to counter attack to the east against a UA advance towards Berdyansk or Mariupol.
ODG:
1) Cross the Dnipro, draw russian reserves away from the center and to this flank
2) break through in the centre
3) have russians move from the flanks back to the center under withering GMLRS fire, while they waste their limited fuel.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

mojsterleo ::

Rambutan je izjavil:

o0o0o0o0o0 je izjavil:

Če ste se kdaj spraševali, kakšna je višja ruska tehnologija

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...


Rusi so že 3 dni nazaj objavili posnetke podobnega ukrajinskega lesenega drona. Na sliki se lepo vidi tudi motor, ki je izdelan v tovarni EME iz Poljske. Nemogoče da bi ga Poljaki prodali Rusom. Tako da NOEL spet zavaja.
Seveda je možno.
Kako so pa Avstrijci Iranu prodajali motorje za Shahede? Pa Texas instruments mikročipe?

Lanceti so sicer za nekaj Ruskega precej dobri in dajejo rezultate, vendar je to deloma posledica tega da se UA sile redeployajo za ofenzivo in koga dobijo s spuščenimi gatami. Lanceta je v bistvu Ruski nadomestek preciznega izstrelka tipa Excalibur, izstrelijo ga ko imajo cilj že ogledan.

Rambutan ::

mojsterleo je izjavil:

Rambutan je izjavil:

o0o0o0o0o0 je izjavil:

Če ste se kdaj spraševali, kakšna je višja ruska tehnologija

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...


Rusi so že 3 dni nazaj objavili posnetke podobnega ukrajinskega lesenega drona. Na sliki se lepo vidi tudi motor, ki je izdelan v tovarni EME iz Poljske. Nemogoče da bi ga Poljaki prodali Rusom. Tako da NOEL spet zavaja.
Seveda je možno.
Kako so pa Avstrijci Iranu prodajali motorje za Shahede? Pa Texas instruments mikročipe?

Lanceti so sicer za nekaj Ruskega precej dobri in dajejo rezultate, vendar je to deloma posledica tega da se UA sile redeployajo za ofenzivo in koga dobijo s spuščenimi gatami. Lanceta je v bistvu Ruski nadomestek preciznega izstrelka tipa Excalibur, izstrelijo ga ko imajo cilj že ogledan.


Ja, verjetno je kak promil možnosti, da so Rusi nabavili motor iz sovražne Poljske in so naredili lesen dron, čeprav imajo svojo tovarno, kjer serijsko izdelujejo zelo učinkovite drone. Rusi so te slike slike lesenega drona objavili 3 dni pred NOELom. Sam se pa odloči, komu boš verjel.

Lancet je v proizvodnji že od 2019, imaš dosti posnetkov od lani. So pa zadnje čase močno povečali proizvodnjo tako da je več posnetkov.

https://twitter.com/search?q=until%3A20...

ZALA Lancet @ Wikipedia

mackilla ::

Rambutan je izjavil:

o0o0o0o0o0 je izjavil:

Če ste se kdaj spraševali, kakšna je višja ruska tehnologija

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/...


Rusi so že 3 dni nazaj objavili posnetke podobnega ukrajinskega lesenega drona. Na sliki se lepo vidi tudi motor, ki je izdelan v tovarni EME iz Poljske. Nemogoče da bi ga Poljaki prodali Rusom. Tako da NOEL spet zavaja.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/43655

Sicer ni nič narobe z lesenimi droni, letijo isto kot kovinski. Rusi pač imajo svojo tovarno dronov Kalashnikov, zato jim ni treba modelariti iz lesa kot Ukiji.

https://twitter.com/sandro_pozzi/status...

Ruski Lancet droni so mimogrede zelo učinkoviti, na spletu imaš dosti posnetkov kako uničujejo ukrajinsko opremo. Ne vidi se pa ukrajinskih posnetkov8-)

https://twitter.com/search?q=lancet%20d...

A ti ne vidiš kako Ukrajinci uničujejo rusko opremo? A živiš v nekem mehurčku?:))

tomlin ::

Vodja Putinovih ruskih elitnih plačancev Wagner Jevgenij Prigožin je v nedeljo, 30. aprila, posvaril, da bi se lahko ukrajinska protiofenziva spremenila v "tragedijo" za Rusijo, in se pritožil, da Rusom primanjkuje streliva. Prigožin se očitno zaveda, da z ruskimi kamenodobnimi fračami je nemogoče parirati sofisticiranemu zahodnemu orožju.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/russia/articl...
Svoboda in enakost ni isto kot svoboda.
M. Friedman

Rambutan ::

tomlin je izjavil:

Vodja Putinovih ruskih elitnih plačancev Wagner Jevgenij Prigožin je v nedeljo, 30. aprila, posvaril, da bi se lahko ukrajinska protiofenziva spremenila v "tragedijo" za Rusijo, in se pritožil, da Rusom primanjkuje streliva. Prigožin se očitno zaveda, da z ruskimi kamenodobnimi fračami je nemogoče parirati sofisticiranemu zahodnemu orožju.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/russia/articl...


Kaj Ukiji še nasedajo Prigožinu? Še zmeraj mislijo, da je Wagner s človeškimi valovi z lopatkami osvobodil Bakhumut?8-) Prigožin provocira Zelenskega, da bo poslal še vojske v Bakhmut v izgubljen položaj...

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023...

Russia has not experienced an ammunition shortage in the east of Ukraine, despite the Wagnerites' public statements about the lack of ammunition at the contact line.

Source: Serhii Cherevatyi, Speaker for the Eastern group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on air during the national joint 24/7 newscast

Gregor P ::

Ljubljanski župan Jankovič ponuja Ljubljano za pogajanja ...

https://www.youtube.com/live/If7IyNWzGR...
The main failure in computers is usually located between keyboard and chair.
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).

tomlin ::

Nemotivirani in demoralizirani ruski vojaki streljajo brez haska v prazno ali pa celo po svojih. Držijo se stare ruske vojne doktrine iz WWII: izstreli čim več granat in raket, morda bodo nekaj zadele.

"Na papirju ima ruska vojska enega najboljših sistemov za nadzor topniškega ognja na svetu . V praksi slabo usposobljeni in nedisciplinirani ruski strelci, ki sledijo togi, zastareli doktrini, zapravljajo rusko topniško prednost. Izstreliti veliko granat in raket, ne da bi kar koli zadeli."

Po opisu ruskega vojaka, Rusi dnevno pošiljajo domov "pakete" s 17 mrtvimi naborniki, ta nesrečni vojak za ruske žrtve krivi ruske strelce . "Naši so nas zjebali," pravi v svojem prestreženem klicu. "Vneseni napačni podatki o prilagoditvi. Zjebali vse, kar imamo, naše lastne fante."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2...
Svoboda in enakost ni isto kot svoboda.
M. Friedman

mackilla ::

Rambutan je izjavil:

tomlin je izjavil:

Vodja Putinovih ruskih elitnih plačancev Wagner Jevgenij Prigožin je v nedeljo, 30. aprila, posvaril, da bi se lahko ukrajinska protiofenziva spremenila v "tragedijo" za Rusijo, in se pritožil, da Rusom primanjkuje streliva. Prigožin se očitno zaveda, da z ruskimi kamenodobnimi fračami je nemogoče parirati sofisticiranemu zahodnemu orožju.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/russia/articl...


Kaj Ukiji še nasedajo Prigožinu? Še zmeraj mislijo, da je Wagner s človeškimi valovi z lopatkami osvobodil Bakhumut?8-) Prigožin provocira Zelenskega, da bo poslal še vojske v Bakhmut v izgubljen položaj...

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023...

Russia has not experienced an ammunition shortage in the east of Ukraine, despite the Wagnerites' public statements about the lack of ammunition at the contact line.

Source: Serhii Cherevatyi, Speaker for the Eastern group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on air during the national joint 24/7 newscast

Wagner osvobaja prebivalce Bakhmuta življenj in premoženja. Spotoma pa seveda osvobaja tudi Wagnerjevce zemeljskih spon. Rusofili so navdušeni:D

primoz4p ::

Rambutan je izjavil:

tomlin je izjavil:

Vodja Putinovih ruskih elitnih plačancev Wagner Jevgenij Prigožin je v nedeljo, 30. aprila, posvaril, da bi se lahko ukrajinska protiofenziva spremenila v "tragedijo" za Rusijo, in se pritožil, da Rusom primanjkuje streliva. Prigožin se očitno zaveda, da z ruskimi kamenodobnimi fračami je nemogoče parirati sofisticiranemu zahodnemu orožju.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/russia/articl...


Kaj Ukiji še nasedajo Prigožinu? Še zmeraj mislijo, da je Wagner s človeškimi valovi z lopatkami osvobodil Bakhumut?8-) Prigožin provocira Zelenskega, da bo poslal še vojske v Bakhmut v izgubljen položaj...

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023...

Russia has not experienced an ammunition shortage in the east of Ukraine, despite the Wagnerites' public statements about the lack of ammunition at the contact line.

Source: Serhii Cherevatyi, Speaker for the Eastern group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on air during the national joint 24/7 newscast

Wagner fighters for the first time showed the warehouses of Soviet weapons in the mines near Soledar

“In warehouses, for example, there are 292 thousand boxes of PPSh, in each box there are 10 pieces, can you imagine what volumes, this is in addition to other weapons,” he said. RIA News one of the soldiers.

https://videon.img.ria.ru/Out/Flv/20230...

mojsterleo ::

Kitajci so v sredo 26.4.2023 podprli resolucijo GS OZN o Ruski agresiji v Ukrajini. :))

Cooperation between the United Nations and the Council of Europe
The General Assembly,


Recalling the Agreement between the Council of Europe and the Secretariat of the United Nations signed on 15 December 1951 and the Arrangement on Cooperation and Liaison between the Secretariats of the United Nations and the Council of Europe of 19 November 1971,

Recalling also its resolution 44/6 of 17 October 1989, in which it granted the Council of Europe a standing invitation to participate as an observer in its sessions and work, as well as its previous resolutions on cooperation between the United Nations and the Council of Europe,
Acknowledging the contribution of the Council of Europe to the strengthening of multilateralism as well as to the promotion and protection of all human rights and fundamental freedoms, democracy and the rule of law through its standards, principles, monitoring mechanisms and technical cooperation, as well as to the effective implementation of relevant international legal instruments of the United Nations,

Acknowledging also the contribution of the Council of Europe to the development of international law, and welcoming the openness of the Council of Europe to the participation of States of other regions in its legal instruments,

Welcoming the role of the Council of Europe in building a united Europe without dividing lines, and the contribution of the Council of Europe to cohesion, stability and security in Europe,
Commending the increasing contribution of the Council of Europe, including at the parliamentary level, to democratic transition in its neighbouring regions aimed at promoting democratic institutions and procedures, and welcoming the readiness of the Council of Europe to further share its experience in democracy-building with interested countries on the basis of a demand-driven approach,
Welcoming the increasingly close relations between the United Nations and the Council of Europe, and commending the contribution of the Permanent Delegations of the Council of Europe to the United Nations Offices at Geneva and at Vienna to the enhancement of cooperation and the achievement of greater synergy between the United Nations and the Council of Europe,
Recognizing that multilingualism contributes to the achievement of the goals of the United Nations and the Council of Europe, welcoming the efforts of these two organizations towards strengthening multilingualism in their respective organizations, and encouraging them to advance in this field, in particular through the exchange of experience and best practices,

Recognizing also that the unprecedented challenges now facing Europe following the aggression by the Russian Federation against Ukraine, and against Georgia prior to that, and the cessation of the membership of the Russian Federation in the Council of Europe, call for strengthened cooperation between the United Nations and the Council of Europe, notably in order to promptly restore and maintain peace and security based on respect of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of any State, ensure the observance of human rights and international humanitarian law during the hostilities, provide redress to victims and bring to justice all those responsible for the violations of international law ...


https://twitter.com/silovik5/status/165...

Pac-Man ::

Ognjemet v Pavlogradu so bili motorji upokojenih medcelinskih balističnih raket. Točna geolokacija na povezavi, lepim kontekst

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status...

GeoConfirmed UKR.

The massive explosion in Pavlograd was in the Pavlograd Chemical plant and was not a train loaded with S-300's like so many claimed... And it's also very bad news.

Grid of the site: 48.582440, 35.849209

GeoLocated by @OAlexanderDK and @Wolltigerhueter

...

Conclusion:

A massive explosion occurred on the site of the Pavlograd Chemical Plant. Not a train loaded with Ukrainian S-300's.

"To date, more than 1.8 thousand tons of expired solid rocket fuel are stored on the site. It has been 20 years since its expiration date."

It's know for decades that this site is used for storage.
In 2020 they warned about the possible ecological disaster if this site ever would explode, which will affect both Dnipropetrovsk region and four neighboring regions.
https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/features-...

If this location is struck a full investigation is needed:
Did Russia intentionally targeted this site knowing it can result in an ecological disaster?
Is this another WarCrime?

Russia knew this risk!

You must read it to believe it.

If Russia targeted this....

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Lesoto ::

vedno ista zgodba

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...
"Survive if you can" - Russian "ex-convict" Yakovlev tells how the Ministry of Defence recruited 110 convicts from St. Petersburg prison and threw them to the frontline without supplies, or provisions.

According to Yakovlev, on February 21 they were brought to the Donetsk region. They were not given any documents, were placed in a basement, and left without professional soldiers. Of the promised salary, only 40,000 rubles were paid. Yakovlev notes that the six-month contract had no conditions except to survive if they can.

mojsterleo ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Ognjemet v Pavlogradu so bili motorji upokojenih medcelinskih balističnih raket. Točna geolokacija na povezavi, lepim kontekst
To je bil kontra napad zaradi fiaska v Sevastopolu. Rusi so nujno potrebovali velik bum za svoje medije.
Najbolj butasto pa je to, da so Rusi za ta napad v morje spravili del svoje flote in v zrak 17 bombnikov Tu-95, izstrelil pa so vsega skupaj 18 raket od katerih je bilo 15 prestreženih, se pravi so fejkali napad. Še bolj neumno pa je to, da je bila ciljana lokacija verjetno celo brez zračne obrambe, saj gre za Rusom znano lokacijo.

Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status...
New video of the Pavlohrad blast seems to confirm that the plant storing old SS-24 boosters was hit in the Russian strike.
While not good, this was the better case scenario.
Satellite imagery should be able to confirm the location and show the scale of the damage shortly.

Še ena debunkana ruska laž.

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status...
Video here shows a different angle where, unlike all the others, the train station and plant are not both in a line.

Zgodovina sprememb…

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Pac-Man ::

Intervju s Spaghetti Kozakom (Jim Kovpak), dobra ura.

Ukrainian Foreign Fighter Describes Early Chaos in International Legion (Exclusive Interview)


In this exclusive interview with a foreign fighter by the name of James, also known online as Spaghetti Kozak, he touches on a whole host of topics surrounding his service in Ukraine. Why he joined the Ukrainian military, the chaos of the early international legion, why he left it to join a recon team fighting in the frontline, his experiences on the front, IEDs, what equipment he preferred, and much more. The interview went on for well over 2 hour, so I could not fir everything into one video. A second video will be released soon diving into his political beliefs as well, including his radical proposal that Russia itself should be dismantled.

0:00 Teaser
1:10 Introduction
6:56 Territorial defense & evolution of Ukraine's military
16:46 Experience with the International Legion
42:18 The Kherson Counteroffensive
49:21 Injuries and close calls
54:25 Mines, IEDs, and thermobaric weapons
1:06:39 End credits
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

mojsterleo ::

Lesoto je izjavil:

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status...
New video of the Pavlohrad blast seems to confirm that the plant storing old SS-24 boosters was hit in the Russian strike.
While not good, this was the better case scenario.
Satellite imagery should be able to confirm the location and show the scale of the damage shortly.

Še ena debunkana ruska laž.

https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status...
Video here shows a different angle where, unlike all the others, the train station and plant are not both in a line.
V kompleksu naj bi bila tudi tovarna komponent raket Neptun in Vilkha. Ali je bila funkcionalna v času napada sicer ni znano.
https://journalist.today/en/pavlohrad-c...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/u...
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