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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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Lesoto ::
Ne vem pa, kaj si poveljnik ameriških sil v Evropi misli, da klati take neumnosti. Rusi so po poročanju Ukijev in oryxspioenkop skoraj uničeni...
Ja seveda imajo Rusi VEČ vojakov kot ob začetku februarja 2022. Lani so imeli profesionalce, zdaj imajo pa nabornike.
Kalkuliraj koliko je vsak nabornik vreden v primerjavi s profesionalcem.
Comandante ::
Ne vem pa, kaj si poveljnik ameriških sil v Evropi misli, da klati take neumnosti. Rusi so po poročanju Ukijev in oryxspioenkop skoraj uničeni...
Ja seveda imajo Rusi VEČ vojakov kot ob začetku februarja 2022. Lani so imeli profesionalce, zdaj imajo pa nabornike.
Kalkuliraj koliko je vsak nabornik vreden v primerjavi s profesionalcem.
Pa lani so imeli 30 let staro opremo, zdaj vlacijo ven 60+ let stare tanke. Slabsa oprema + ljudje, ki za njeno uporabo nikoli niso bili primerno izurjeni. Od tega ne mores pricakovati neke ucinkovitosti.
Btw, se ve s cim tocno so zakurili kres v Sevastopolu? Dron ali raketa?
Lonsarg ::
Rusom navadnih vojakov itak ne more zmanjkati, so realno omejeni zgolj z opremo. No edino notranja politična stabilnost bo nastradala če jih preveč mobilizirajo.
Pac-Man ::
Ampak nacistični režim. Avtor teksta je ukrajinski socialist iz Luhanska.
https://twitter.com/ahatanhel/status/16...
On April 19, 2023, the Russian anarchist Dmitry Petrov a.k.a Ilya Leshiy, died in the battle near Bakhmut.
He fought in the Ukrainian army against Russian imperial aggression. His death was confirmed yesterday.
Dmitry was a PhD in history, an anthropologist and worked at the Institute for African Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
He visited Kurdistan, co-authored a few books, and co-hosted the Hevale research and media project about Rojava.
https://hevale.nihilist.li/about_englis...
Dmitry participated in the anarchist movement for many years. He defended the environment, workers' rights, and fought against developers. As an anti-fascist, he fought neo-Nazis on the Moscow streets. 
Leshiy was an anarchist, but he was friendly and cooperative with socialists, participated in our campaign to cancel Ukraine's foreign debt, and wrote several articles about Rojava for the Commons journal.
https://commons.com.ua/ru/authors/petro...
Dmitry participated in the protests in Bolotnaya in Russia 2011, Maidan in Ukraine 2014, and protests in Belarus 2020.
Due to the threat of arrest in Russia, he moved to Ukraine several years ago but continued to participate in the Russian anarchist movement.
On the first day of the invasion, Leshiy joined an attempt to create an anarchist unit in the Ukrainian army.
He took part in the battles near Svatovo and Kreminna, and died during an attempted counter-attack near Bakhmut.
Russian Anarchist Dmitriy Petrov, disputes the Kremlin narrative on UA & talks anarchist resistance.
I spoke with Dmitry only a few times, but from the first day of acquaintance, he made the best impression on me — a sincere, honest, friendly, modest person.
Only after his death, I and many other Ukrainian leftists learned about what he did in Russia.
Dmitry was a true internationalist and revolutionary and boldly opposed chauvinism.
He hoped that the Ukrainian resistance would help the Russians and Belarusians overthrow their dictatorships. He died for the freedom of the peoples of Ukraine and Russia.
Dmitry was a co-founder of the Combat Organization of Anarcho-Communists (BOAK), which sabotaged railway infrastructure in Russia since the start of the invasion.
He send his last word to them for publication in case he died.
https://twitter.com/Antifa_Entsy/status...
https://twitter.com/ahatanhel/status/16...
On April 19, 2023, the Russian anarchist Dmitry Petrov a.k.a Ilya Leshiy, died in the battle near Bakhmut.
He fought in the Ukrainian army against Russian imperial aggression. His death was confirmed yesterday.
He visited Kurdistan, co-authored a few books, and co-hosted the Hevale research and media project about Rojava.
https://hevale.nihilist.li/about_englis...
https://commons.com.ua/ru/authors/petro...
Due to the threat of arrest in Russia, he moved to Ukraine several years ago but continued to participate in the Russian anarchist movement.
On the first day of the invasion, Leshiy joined an attempt to create an anarchist unit in the Ukrainian army.
He took part in the battles near Svatovo and Kreminna, and died during an attempted counter-attack near Bakhmut.
Russian Anarchist Dmitriy Petrov, disputes the Kremlin narrative on UA & talks anarchist resistance.
Update: Dmitriy "Leshiy" Petrov died in the fight against russian imperialism in Ukraine close to Bakhmut
Ilya, an anarchist from North East Europe, disputes the Russian State narrative about the War in Ukraine point by point and discusses the efforts made by local and International anarchists, to organize in military and political terms within the context of resisting the Invasion.
I spoke with Dmitry only a few times, but from the first day of acquaintance, he made the best impression on me — a sincere, honest, friendly, modest person.
Only after his death, I and many other Ukrainian leftists learned about what he did in Russia.
Dmitry was a true internationalist and revolutionary and boldly opposed chauvinism.
He hoped that the Ukrainian resistance would help the Russians and Belarusians overthrow their dictatorships. He died for the freedom of the peoples of Ukraine and Russia.
He send his last word to them for publication in case he died.
https://twitter.com/Antifa_Entsy/status...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mackilla ::
Vidim, da ste hitro zagrizli v prvi uspešen ukrajinski podvig po dolgem času
Ne vem pa, kaj si poveljnik ameriških sil v Evropi misli, da klati take neumnosti. Rusi so po poročanju Ukijev in oryxspioenkop skoraj uničeni...
https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/16...
I love it when NATO's commanding general confirms my takes two days after I put them out.
That's right, folks - even according to General Cavoli, head of EUCOM and SACEUR, Russia now has a larger army than when it kicked off the SMO and has suffered no real attrition elsewhere.
Mal računaj
When the war broke out, 3,737,000 men in the Heer (Army) plus 30,000 in the SS-Verfügungstruppe, 400,000 in the Luftwaffe (Air Force) and 50,000 in the Kriegsmarine (Navy).
In 1945 there were 5,300,000 men in the Heer, plus 830,000 in the Waffen-SS, 1,000,000 in the Luftwaffe and 700,000 in the Kriegsmarine.
Pac-Man ::
1. kanal ruske nacionalke je razsut blok v Umanu predstavil kot ukrajinsko obstreljevanje Donbasa, 20 sekund
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Tule je nitka o razgradnji francoske SSBN
https://twitter.com/xaviervav/status/16...
pa sem se šel malo zgubljat po wikipedijinih člankih o francoskem jedrskem arzenalu. Enostavno ne dajo jedrske glave v operativo brez pravih eksplozij (zadnje l. 1996) ali modeliranja z visokotehnološko opremo. Rusija slednjega, kolikor vem, nima.
TN 75 @ Wikipedia
Development began in 1987 and developmental testing of the warhead ended in 1991, but French president Jacques Chirac asserted in June 1995 (50 years after the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki) that a full yield proof test was needed prior to deployment, causing an international outcry. Its first full-yield test was probably the 110 kt detonation on 1 October 1995 at Fangataufa.
T%C3%AAte nucl%C3%A9aire oc%C3%A9anique @ Wikipedia
The TNO has a yield that is estimated to be 100 kilotons of TNT (kt).[5] The warhead's charge is called "robust":[6] less optimized than the TN 75 but with an improved reliability and life-span. Development of the technology in the warhead has benefited from the final series of French nuclear tests conducted in 1995-1996 in Moruroa, French Polynesia. The warhead's design and functionality were ultimately validated through simulation,[7] particularly with DAM's Tera 100 supercomputer, Megajoule laser, and radiographic equipment.[8] Production of the TNO is estimated to be complete, although it is not yet in France's operational stockpile of nuclear weapons.[3]
Tera 100 @ Wikipedia
Tera 100 is a supercomputer built by Bull SA for the French Commissariat à l'Énergie Atomique.
On May 26, 2010, Tera 100 was turned on. The computer, which is located in Essonne is able to sustain around 1 petaFLOPs maximum performance and a peak at 1.25 petaFLOPs. It has 4300 Bullx Series S servers ('Mesca'), 140,000 Intel Xeon 7500 processor cores, and 300 TB of memory.
Laser M%C3%A9gajoule @ Wikipedia
Laser Mégajoule (LMJ) is a large laser-based inertial confinement fusion (ICF) research device near Bordeaux, France, built by the French nuclear science directorate, Commissariat à l'Énergie Atomique (CEA).
Laser Mégajoule plans to deliver over 1 MJ of laser energy to its targets, compressing them to about 100 times the density of lead. It is about half as energetic as its US counterpart, the National Ignition Facility (NIF). Laser Mégajoule is the largest ICF experiment outside the US.
Laser Mégajoule's primary task will be refining fusion calculations for France's own nuclear weapons.[1] A portion of the system's time is set aside for materials science experiments.[2]
Construction of the LMJ took 15 years and cost 3 billion euros.[3] It was declared operational on 23 October 2014, when it ran its first set of nuclear-weapon-related experiments.
https://twitter.com/xaviervav/status/16...
pa sem se šel malo zgubljat po wikipedijinih člankih o francoskem jedrskem arzenalu. Enostavno ne dajo jedrske glave v operativo brez pravih eksplozij (zadnje l. 1996) ali modeliranja z visokotehnološko opremo. Rusija slednjega, kolikor vem, nima.
TN 75 @ Wikipedia
Development began in 1987 and developmental testing of the warhead ended in 1991, but French president Jacques Chirac asserted in June 1995 (50 years after the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki) that a full yield proof test was needed prior to deployment, causing an international outcry. Its first full-yield test was probably the 110 kt detonation on 1 October 1995 at Fangataufa.
T%C3%AAte nucl%C3%A9aire oc%C3%A9anique @ Wikipedia
The TNO has a yield that is estimated to be 100 kilotons of TNT (kt).[5] The warhead's charge is called "robust":[6] less optimized than the TN 75 but with an improved reliability and life-span. Development of the technology in the warhead has benefited from the final series of French nuclear tests conducted in 1995-1996 in Moruroa, French Polynesia. The warhead's design and functionality were ultimately validated through simulation,[7] particularly with DAM's Tera 100 supercomputer, Megajoule laser, and radiographic equipment.[8] Production of the TNO is estimated to be complete, although it is not yet in France's operational stockpile of nuclear weapons.[3]
Tera 100 @ Wikipedia
Tera 100 is a supercomputer built by Bull SA for the French Commissariat à l'Énergie Atomique.
On May 26, 2010, Tera 100 was turned on. The computer, which is located in Essonne is able to sustain around 1 petaFLOPs maximum performance and a peak at 1.25 petaFLOPs. It has 4300 Bullx Series S servers ('Mesca'), 140,000 Intel Xeon 7500 processor cores, and 300 TB of memory.
Laser M%C3%A9gajoule @ Wikipedia
Laser Mégajoule (LMJ) is a large laser-based inertial confinement fusion (ICF) research device near Bordeaux, France, built by the French nuclear science directorate, Commissariat à l'Énergie Atomique (CEA).
Laser Mégajoule plans to deliver over 1 MJ of laser energy to its targets, compressing them to about 100 times the density of lead. It is about half as energetic as its US counterpart, the National Ignition Facility (NIF). Laser Mégajoule is the largest ICF experiment outside the US.
Laser Mégajoule's primary task will be refining fusion calculations for France's own nuclear weapons.[1] A portion of the system's time is set aside for materials science experiments.[2]
Construction of the LMJ took 15 years and cost 3 billion euros.[3] It was declared operational on 23 October 2014, when it ran its first set of nuclear-weapon-related experiments.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mojsterleo ::
Vidim, da ste hitro zagrizli v prvi uspešen ukrajinski podvig po dolgem časuKakšne neumnosti? Z Wagnerjem je konec. Od 50.000 jih je še peščica ostala. Potrjuje Prigozin: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
Ne vem pa, kaj si poveljnik ameriških sil v Evropi misli, da klati take neumnosti. Rusi so po poročanju Ukijev in oryxspioenkop skoraj uničeni.
Napad na skladišče goriva je bil izveden z modificiranimi kitajskimi (?) droni. Točna številka ni znana, govori se da jih je bilo 6-10. En ali dva sta zadela. Škoda je kar znatna. Uradno so bili uničeni 4 rezervoarji, neuradno dvakrat toliko. Poškodovana je seveda tudi infrastruktura skladišča, tako da zna popravilo trajati par mesecev. Pač lahko rečemo da je napad uspešen, saj je bilo nekaj smiselnega zadeto. Za razliko od Rusov ki napadajo stanovanjske objekte daleč stran od fronte.
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- spremenil: mojsterleo ()
Pac-Man ::
V stanovanjih pa nedolžni civilisti...
Si pričakoval kaj drugega v stanovanjskih blokih daleč od fronte?
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/28/euro...
Ukrainian Internal Affairs Minister Ihor Klymenko said there were 46 apartments inside one of the buildings that was hit, of which 27 were completely destroyed. He added that it may take a day to clear all the rubble.
At least four children were among the dead in Uman, according Ukraine’s interior ministry. Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky said earlier on Twitter that two children killed there couldn’t be identified, and the fate of their parents was unknown.
In Dnipro, two people were killed: a mother and her young child.
Another 18 people were injured in the Uman strike, Ukraine’s State Emergency Service said in a statement on Facebook on Saturday.
Rescuers combing through the rubble saved at least 17 people, according to the emergency service, which sent at least 106 personnel and 27 vehicles to the site.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/stat...
Here is how books in Russia look in 2023: The almost completely redacted page in Lidia Yuknavitch's book mentioning LGBT+ relationships 👇
Here is how books in Russia look in 2023: The almost completely redacted page in Lidia Yuknavitch's book mentioning LGBT+ relationships 👇
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Rambutan ::
Vrhovni poljski poveljnik Andrzejcak je zelo pesimističen o ukrajinskih možnostih.
http://zububrothers.com/2023/04/29/pola...
https://dorzeczy.pl/opinie/433303/gen-a...
Andrzejczak said that the situation doesn’t look good for Kiev at all when considering the economic dynamics of this conflict, with him drawing particular attention to finance, infrastructure issues, social issues, technology, and food production, et al. From this vantage point, he predicts that Russia can continue conducting its special operation for 1-2 more years before it begins to feel any structural pressure to curtail its activities.
By contrast, Kiev is burning through tens of billions of dollars’ worth of aid, yet it still remains very far away from achieving its maximum objectives. Andrzejczak candidly said that Poland’s Western partners aren’t properly assessing the challenges that stand in the way of Ukraine’s victory, including those connected to the “race of logistics”/ war of attrition” that the NATO chief declared in mid-February. Another serious problems concerns refugees’ unwillingness to return to their homeland anytime soon.
As Andrzejczak himself admitted, “We just don’t have ammunition. The industry is not ready not only to send equipment to Ukraine, but also to replenish our stocks, which are melting.” Considering that Poland is Ukraine’s third most important patron behind the Anglo-American Axis, this strongly suggests that all other NATO members are struggling just as much as it is to keep up the pace, scale, and scope of support, if not more since many are a lot smaller and thus less capable of contributing in this respect.
Accordingly, this observation means that Kiev’s upcoming counteroffensive will likely be its “last hurrah” prior to resuming peace talks with Russia since the West won’t be able to keep up its assistance for much longer. Andrzejczak seems keenly aware of this “politically inconvenient” fact, hence why he wants his side to give its proxies as much as possible until the end of that operation in the hopes that they can then be in a comparatively more advantageous position by the time these talks recommence.
He and those who think like him are making two very dangerous gambles: 1) they expect the upcoming counteroffensive to be at least mildly successful in gaining some ground; and 2) anticipate that Russia will agree to resume peace talks once this operation finally ends. The corresponding risks are obvious in that: 1) the counteroffensive might fail so badly that Russia exploits this disaster to gain an uncertain amount of ground instead; and/or 2) Moscow might not recommence talks upon Kiev’s request.
http://zububrothers.com/2023/04/29/pola...
https://dorzeczy.pl/opinie/433303/gen-a...
Andrzejczak said that the situation doesn’t look good for Kiev at all when considering the economic dynamics of this conflict, with him drawing particular attention to finance, infrastructure issues, social issues, technology, and food production, et al. From this vantage point, he predicts that Russia can continue conducting its special operation for 1-2 more years before it begins to feel any structural pressure to curtail its activities.
By contrast, Kiev is burning through tens of billions of dollars’ worth of aid, yet it still remains very far away from achieving its maximum objectives. Andrzejczak candidly said that Poland’s Western partners aren’t properly assessing the challenges that stand in the way of Ukraine’s victory, including those connected to the “race of logistics”/ war of attrition” that the NATO chief declared in mid-February. Another serious problems concerns refugees’ unwillingness to return to their homeland anytime soon.
As Andrzejczak himself admitted, “We just don’t have ammunition. The industry is not ready not only to send equipment to Ukraine, but also to replenish our stocks, which are melting.” Considering that Poland is Ukraine’s third most important patron behind the Anglo-American Axis, this strongly suggests that all other NATO members are struggling just as much as it is to keep up the pace, scale, and scope of support, if not more since many are a lot smaller and thus less capable of contributing in this respect.
Accordingly, this observation means that Kiev’s upcoming counteroffensive will likely be its “last hurrah” prior to resuming peace talks with Russia since the West won’t be able to keep up its assistance for much longer. Andrzejczak seems keenly aware of this “politically inconvenient” fact, hence why he wants his side to give its proxies as much as possible until the end of that operation in the hopes that they can then be in a comparatively more advantageous position by the time these talks recommence.
He and those who think like him are making two very dangerous gambles: 1) they expect the upcoming counteroffensive to be at least mildly successful in gaining some ground; and 2) anticipate that Russia will agree to resume peace talks once this operation finally ends. The corresponding risks are obvious in that: 1) the counteroffensive might fail so badly that Russia exploits this disaster to gain an uncertain amount of ground instead; and/or 2) Moscow might not recommence talks upon Kiev’s request.
bbbbbb2015 ::
mojsterleo je izjavil:
Vidim, da ste hitro zagrizli v prvi uspešen ukrajinski podvig po dolgem časuKakšne neumnosti? Z Wagnerjem je konec. Od 50.000 jih je še peščica ostala. Potrjuje Prigozin: https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
Ne vem pa, kaj si poveljnik ameriških sil v Evropi misli, da klati take neumnosti. Rusi so po poročanju Ukijev in oryxspioenkop skoraj uničeni.
Prigožin samo hajpa, rad bi dobil več denarja (in orožja), da bi najel več plačancev. Saj plačance se da dobiti, še vedno.
Zdaj so jim zopet dali neko nalogo v Bakmutu.
Vendar osebno mislim, da je wagner, če se ne bo nekaj drastično spremenilo, mrtev. Problem je več stvari, število mrtvih, uničeno orožje in municija, ter najpomembnejše - glasno in javno šimfanje oblastnikov v Kremlju. To si je lahko privoščil samo Prigožin. In še to samo takrat, kadar je napadal samo wagner.
Gazprom je ustanovil svojo vojsko:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen...
ki so sicer svojo prvo bitko v Bakmutu *izgubili*, ter dovolili precejšen protinapad Ukrajincev. V bistvu se niso hoteli držati navodil wagnerjevcev, ki pa so jim svetovali dobro. To je neizkušenost. wagnerjevci so imeli takih kiksov ogromno.
Kakorkoli, če Gazpromova vojska zalaufa, je pa to nekaj čisto drugega. Pa še nekaj je. Rusija ima Gazprom trdno v krempljih, nenazadnje je državna firma. wagner not so much. Razlika je tudi ta, da Prigožin 'kuhar', bil je tudi zaprt v Sovjetski zvezi. Wagnerjevce v Afriki opisujejo kot živali in zveri.
Gazpromova vojska bi naj nastala iz njihove varnostne firme, kar je za velikostni razred boljši začetek. Ukrajinci so okrog te Gazprom vojske zaskrbljeni. Privatna vojska ni toliko zavezana hierarhiji in kariernemu napredovanju.
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Rambutan ::
Jest močno dvomim, da je Wagner v resnici privat vojska. IMO je Prigožin samo front figura, v ozadju pa vodi vse ruska država. Tako za njih ne velja zakonodaja, ki velja za vojsko in so legalno ločeni od Ruske države, do svojih vojakov so lahko bolj fleksibilni in ne držijo se toge vojaške komande. Kje ste pa že videli, da lahko privat firma kupuje in uporablja vojaška letala in tanke?
Prigožinove izjave pa so IMO v 90% samo PSYOP, od provociranja s starci, do zganjanja panike glede manjka streliva....
Prigožinove izjave pa so IMO v 90% samo PSYOP, od provociranja s starci, do zganjanja panike glede manjka streliva....
Lesoto ::
Jest močno dvomim, da je Wagner v resnici privat vojska. IMO je Prigožin samo front figura, v ozadju pa vodi vse ruska država. Tako za njih ne velja zakonodaja, ki velja za vojsko in so legalno ločeni od Ruske države, do svojih vojakov so lahko bolj fleksibilni in ne držijo se toge vojaške komande. Kje ste pa že videli, da lahko privat firma kupuje in uporablja vojaška letala in tanke?
Prigožinove izjave pa so IMO v 90% samo PSYOP, od provociranja s starci, do zganjanja panike glede manjka streliva....
A jamranje onega Poljaka, pa ni Psyop?
Ruska vojska namjerno odugovlači s osvajanjem Bahmuta. Ovo su razlozi
Rusi bi mogli prekinuti sve opskrbne pravce i natjerati Ukrajince na bijeg
Zbog toga bi osvajanjem Ivanivske Rusi potpuno prekinuli sve opskrbne pravce i natjerali ukrajinske snage na povlačenje. Iako su ruski položaji južno od Ivanivske udaljeni tek dva kilometra, velikog napada nema. Kako Wagner nije dovoljno opremljen ni uvježban za takvu ofenzivnu operaciju, nju bi morala izvesti ruska vojska. Međutim, ruski vojni zapovjednici to ne čine.
Stoga ne čudi da se Jevgenij Prigožin stalno pjeni i optužuje ruski vojni vrh za izdaju. I nije daleko od istine. Nije nikakva tajna da ni ruski ministar obrane Sergej Šojgu ni načelnik glavnog stožera Valerij Gerasimov ne podnose Prigožina. Koliko ih je puta javno kritizirao te još više blatio pred Putinom, nije ni čudno.
Zbog toga ni Šojgu ni Gerasimov nemaju ama baš nikakvu namjeru pomoći Prigožinu da njegov Wagner uspješno dovrši bitku za Bahmut. Dapače, bilo bi im sasvim po volji da bitka završi neodlučeno. Po mogućnosti uz potpuni raspad Wagnera.
Vojska namjerno kalkulira s okončanjem bitke za Bahmut
Prigožin je itekako svjestan svega toga i činjenice da bi vrlo lako sve zasluge za osvajanje Bahmuta mogli prisvojiti Šojgu i Gerasimov. Njih dvojica koriste kašnjenje priprema za veliku ukrajinsku proljetnu ofenzivu te, procjenjujući da imaju dva, a možda i tri tjedna do nje, zajednički kalkuliraju kad je najbolji trenutak da dovrše bitku za Bahmut i da pritom do kraja iscrpe Wagner.
fur80 ::
Jest močno dvomim, da je Wagner v resnici privat vojska. IMO je Prigožin samo front figura, v ozadju pa vodi vse ruska država. Tako za njih ne velja zakonodaja, ki velja za vojsko in so legalno ločeni od Ruske države, do svojih vojakov so lahko bolj fleksibilni in ne držijo se toge vojaške komande. Kje ste pa že videli, da lahko privat firma kupuje in uporablja vojaška letala in tanke?
Prigožinove izjave pa so IMO v 90% samo PSYOP, od provociranja s starci, do zganjanja panike glede manjka streliva....
Ma nemoj, to je Putlerjava vojska, to.menda ja veš.
Wagner ve, da so na drugi strani USA, UK, Poljska in Izrael, ki bodo lovili glave v prihodnje, Prigozhin ima še samo Bakhmut, niti čez mejo več ne bo smel, kaj šele Putler. Pametni buliji, dokler jih ne dobijo po piksni od močnejših.
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Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/165...
"Russia is on the brink of catastrophe." Prigozhin issued an ultimatum to Shoigu and threatened Putin with military mutiny
Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the PMC "Wagner", wrote a letter to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, demanding to provide ammunition. Prigozhin gave an ultimatum that if the problem with supplies for his PMC is not solved, he will complain to Putin, and the mercenaries will leave their positions in Bakhmut and retreat.
"Russia is on the brink of catastrophe." Prigozhin issued an ultimatum to Shoigu and threatened Putin with military mutiny
Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the PMC "Wagner", wrote a letter to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, demanding to provide ammunition. Prigozhin gave an ultimatum that if the problem with supplies for his PMC is not solved, he will complain to Putin, and the mercenaries will leave their positions in Bakhmut and retreat.
fur80 ::
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status...
To gamat spoterat 5 specialcev, da niti ne vedo kaj jih je doletelo.
To gamat spoterat 5 specialcev, da niti ne vedo kaj jih je doletelo.
mackilla ::
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status...
To gamat spoterat 5 specialcev, da niti ne vedo kaj jih je doletelo.
Kaj je to? Zgledajo kot kaki statisti iz fima o romunskemu podeželju. Morda ji lahko najeme Borat,če bo snemal še kak del
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
"They are understandable. It's not understandable... Yes, by the way, it's understandable."
Is Putin discussing the goals of "special military operation"?
"They are understandable. It's not understandable... Yes, by the way, it's understandable."
Is Putin discussing the goals of "special military operation"?
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1...
Prigozhin announces that Wagner lost 94 fighters today in Bakhmut. That's only Wagner and in Bakhmut.
Imagine the true Russian losses all along the frontlines
Prigozhin announces that Wagner lost 94 fighters today in Bakhmut. That's only Wagner and in Bakhmut.
Imagine the true Russian losses all along the frontlines
mojsterleo ::
Vrhovni poljski poveljnik Andrzejcak je zelo pesimističen o ukrajinskih možnostih.Kakšne pa so alternative? Kakršenkoli Ruski uspeh oziroma okupacija vseh 4 ‘priključenih’ oblasti bo pomenila nov večmilijonski val beguncev v Evropo, ki se že tako otepa migrantov. Rusi so že napovedali da kdor v teh 4 oblasteh (oz. kar je okupirano) ne bo hotel sprejeti Rusko državljanstvo ga bodo izgnali, če bo ogrožal državno varnost. Lahko si predstavljamo kako bo to izgledalo v praksi.
http://zububrothers.com/2023/04/29/pola...
https://dorzeczy.pl/opinie/433303/gen-a...
Andrzejczak said that the situation doesn’t look good for Kiev at all when considering the economic dynamics of this conflict,
.....
He and those who think like him are making two very dangerous gambles: 1) they expect the upcoming counteroffensive to be at least mildly successful in gaining some ground; and 2) anticipate that Russia will agree to resume peace talks once this operation finally ends. The corresponding risks are obvious in that: 1) the counteroffensive might fail so badly that Russia exploits this disaster to gain an uncertain amount of ground instead; and/or 2) Moscow might not recommence talks upon Kiev’s request.
Tako da EU še posebej, bi si morala nehat zatiskat oči.
bbbbbb2015 ::
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status...
To gamat spoterat 5 specialcev, da niti ne vedo kaj jih je doletelo.
Whoa. Rusi vojaki na TikToku. A ste opazili, kakšne šik natikače ima harmonikar? To se bo mladina po moje *masovno* vpisala v rusko vojsko. Samo še plave natikače morajo najti.
o0o0o0o0o0 ::
mojsterleo je izjavil:
Vrhovni poljski poveljnik Andrzejcak je zelo pesimističen o ukrajinskih možnostih.Kakšne pa so alternative? Kakršenkoli Ruski uspeh oziroma okupacija vseh 4 ‘priključenih’ oblasti bo pomenila nov večmilijonski val beguncev v Evropo, ki se že tako otepa migrantov. Rusi so že napovedali da kdor v teh 4 oblasteh (oz. kar je okupirano) ne bo hotel sprejeti Rusko državljanstvo ga bodo izgnali, če bo ogrožal državno varnost. Lahko si predstavljamo kako bo to izgledalo v praksi.
http://zububrothers.com/2023/04/29/pola...
https://dorzeczy.pl/opinie/433303/gen-a...
Andrzejczak said that the situation doesn’t look good for Kiev at all when considering the economic dynamics of this conflict,
.....
He and those who think like him are making two very dangerous gambles: 1) they expect the upcoming counteroffensive to be at least mildly successful in gaining some ground; and 2) anticipate that Russia will agree to resume peace talks once this operation finally ends. The corresponding risks are obvious in that: 1) the counteroffensive might fail so badly that Russia exploits this disaster to gain an uncertain amount of ground instead; and/or 2) Moscow might not recommence talks upon Kiev’s request.
Tako da EU še posebej, bi si morala nehat zatiskat oči.
Naredimo menjavo. Rusofili v rusijo, ukrajinci v EU.
mailer ::
Rusofili mogoče res spadajo v rusijo, ukrainci v eu pa še kar nekaj časa ne. Toliko o tvojem načrtu.
Asus B560-I, Intel 11500, Corsair 16GB 3200MHz
Comandante ::
mojsterleo je izjavil:
Vrhovni poljski poveljnik Andrzejcak je zelo pesimističen o ukrajinskih možnostih.Kakšne pa so alternative? Kakršenkoli Ruski uspeh oziroma okupacija vseh 4 ‘priključenih’ oblasti bo pomenila nov večmilijonski val beguncev v Evropo, ki se že tako otepa migrantov. Rusi so že napovedali da kdor v teh 4 oblasteh (oz. kar je okupirano) ne bo hotel sprejeti Rusko državljanstvo ga bodo izgnali, če bo ogrožal državno varnost. Lahko si predstavljamo kako bo to izgledalo v praksi.
http://zububrothers.com/2023/04/29/pola...
https://dorzeczy.pl/opinie/433303/gen-a...
Andrzejczak said that the situation doesn’t look good for Kiev at all when considering the economic dynamics of this conflict,
.....
He and those who think like him are making two very dangerous gambles: 1) they expect the upcoming counteroffensive to be at least mildly successful in gaining some ground; and 2) anticipate that Russia will agree to resume peace talks once this operation finally ends. The corresponding risks are obvious in that: 1) the counteroffensive might fail so badly that Russia exploits this disaster to gain an uncertain amount of ground instead; and/or 2) Moscow might not recommence talks upon Kiev’s request.
Tako da EU še posebej, bi si morala nehat zatiskat oči.
Ta problem se bo v veliki meri resil sam od sebe v nekaj tednih, ko Ukrajina osvobodi okupirana ozemlja. Edini, ki bodo bezali, bodo ruski kolaboranti.
Boljse vprasanje je, kam bo spakirala ruska golazen iz Krima. Rusi, kakrsni gnoji so, jim bodo najbrz zaprli meje.
mackilla ::
bbbbbb2015 ::
Rusofili mogoče res spadajo v rusijo, ukrainci v eu pa še kar nekaj časa ne. Toliko o tvojem načrtu.
Ampak ali rusofili spadajo v EU?
Rusofili seveda spadajo v EU, podobno, kot Ukrajinci spadajo v EU - vendar verjetno še kar nekaj časa ne, čisto zaradi dejstva, da institucij nekaj časa ne bodo mogli spraviti normalno v formo. Evropska modra zastava z rumenimi zvezdami je zastava svobode in inkluzivnosti.
Kar počnejo Rusi, seveda ne bomo dopustili, ampak se bo to zatrlo v kali. EU je pravzaprav nastala na spoznanju, da je treba sodelovati in ne spopadati se.
bbbbbb2015 ::
Comandante je izjavil:
Ta problem se bo v veliki meri resil sam od sebe v nekaj tednih, ko Ukrajina osvobodi okupirana ozemlja. Edini, ki bodo bezali, bodo ruski kolaboranti.
Boljse vprasanje je, kam bo spakirala ruska golazen iz Krima. Rusi, kakrsni gnoji so, jim bodo najbrz zaprli meje.
Rusi se polagoma pakirajo že sedaj. Vsaka huda eksplozija ali požar daje Rusom za misliti. Sicer na Krimu ne obstaja dosti mest, kjer Rusi so. V glavnem so to večja mesta,kot je Sevastopol, pa še nekaj malega v notranjosti. Vedno, ko bo eksplodiralo bližje, vedno bolj bodo Rusi bežali, po moje.
Ukrajina je izvedla nekaj HIMARS in dron napadov. Ideja je, da se uničijo zaloge okupatorjev in večje koncentracije, kjer so vojaki. To bo verjetno kar nekaj časa trajalo. Verjetno to tudi ni zadnja eksplozija na Krimu.
mackilla ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Rusofili mogoče res spadajo v rusijo, ukrainci v eu pa še kar nekaj časa ne. Toliko o tvojem načrtu.
Ampak ali rusofili spadajo v EU?
Rusofili seveda spadajo v EU, podobno, kot Ukrajinci spadajo v EU - vendar verjetno še kar nekaj časa ne, čisto zaradi dejstva, da institucij nekaj časa ne bodo mogli spraviti normalno v formo. Evropska modra zastava z rumenimi zvezdami je zastava svobode in inkluzivnosti.
Kar počnejo Rusi, seveda ne bomo dopustili, ampak se bo to zatrlo v kali. EU je pravzaprav nastala na spoznanju, da je treba sodelovati in ne spopadati se.
Rusofili sovražijo EU in navijajo za razpad. Stalni argument je,da EU posiljuje države in da je boljši sistem v Rusiji kjer država posiljuje ljudi.
primoz4p ::
Izbris 2.0?
Putin dekretom legalizovao deportaciju stanovnika anektiranih teritorija Ukrajine
Prema dekretu građani koji "izraze svoju želju da zadrže postojeće državljanstvo ili budu bez državljanstva" i nisu preuzeli rusko državljanstvo smatraće se strancima od 1. jula 2024. godine
Putin dekretom legalizovao deportaciju stanovnika anektiranih teritorija Ukrajine
Prema dekretu građani koji "izraze svoju želju da zadrže postojeće državljanstvo ili budu bez državljanstva" i nisu preuzeli rusko državljanstvo smatraće se strancima od 1. jula 2024. godine
bbbbbb2015 ::
Izbris 2.0?
Putin dekretom legalizovao deportaciju stanovnika anektiranih teritorija Ukrajine
Prema dekretu građani koji "izraze svoju želju da zadrže postojeće državljanstvo ili budu bez državljanstva" i nisu preuzeli rusko državljanstvo smatraće se strancima od 1. jula 2024. godine
Ne, to ni Izbris 2.0. Niti ni Izbris 1.0.
Niti se Putin ne rabi ukvarjati z Ukrajinci.
V Sloveniji je Izbris 1.0 pomenil, da so vsi v Sloveniji dobili odločbe o slovenskem državljanstvu in slovensko davčno na tistem rumenem papirju (ki ga verjetno še kje imam).
Kolikor je meni znano, vsakdo, ki tega ni dobil (napaka na poši, napačen naslov), je to lahko relativno hitro uredil na UE.
Potem so se vrata zaprla. Od takrat naprej vsi, ki so svojčas živeli v Sloveniji (vojna lica, njihove družine, ipd.) so bili de-facto tujci. Problem izbrisanih je v bistvu pravni problem, kjer bi bilo dovolj, da bi javno objavili seznam ljudi, ki bodo izbrisani (ker ti ljudje niso prevzemali pošte - ni jih bilo v Sloveniji), ter jih pozvali k ureditvi statusa v nekem razumnem roku.
Sodba izbrisanih je bila predvsem, da ti ljudje niso imeli pravnega mehanizma (institut pritožbe) na to, da so bili preprosto izbrisani.
V Ukrajini so ljudje, ki so Ukrajinci, ki se imajo za Ukrajince, ki so ves čas živeli v Ukrajini in jim sedaj tam nič ne manjka. Ljudje na podeželju živijo od bogate zemlje oni niti niso toliko odvisni ne od Rusov ne od Ukrajincev. Putina in kamarilo je začelo motiti, da jih ne morejo prisiliti, da vzamejo ruske papirje. Za mlade to avtomatično pomeni, da so pozvani v vojsko.
Stari pa naj bi dobivali penzijo, vendar je tam okrog Mariupola - ne dobivajo. Dobivajo ta hip humanitarno pomoč, v naturalijah, vodo, kruh, sol, pa še par higienskih pripomočkov.
Zato so tudi nekateri Ukrajinci, ki imajo sorodnike v Rusiji - odšli v Rusijo - k sorodnikom. Vendar se, po vseh teh fiaskih, tudi njim ne mudi vzeti ruski potni list.
Ta dekret je v bistvu neka vrsta etničnega čiščenja. Kdor noče vzeti ruskega potnega lista, je tujec in ga bodo nagnali. Naselili pa verjetno revne kmete iz Zakavkazja, kot je to Stalin že enkrat naredil.
Zdaj, eno je žokanje papirjev, drugo pa realnost. Če bi bila Rusija tako zelo super, vsaem tem ljudem ne bi bilo težko vzeti ruskega potnega lista. Pa ga nočejo.
Nič, z ofenzivo je treba orke nagnati. Pa se naj oni zajebavajo s potnimi listi z Rusi v Rusiji.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: bbbbbb2015 ()
glomp!Gomp1 ::
Jarno ::
glomp!Gomp1 je izjavil:
Rusofili sovražijo EU in navijajo za razpad. Stalni argument je,da EU posiljuje države in da je boljši sistem v Rusiji kjer država posiljuje ljudi.
Sliši se sicer zanimivo, ampak zakaj ves čas poslušam euroskepticizem s strani istih, ki navijajo za Ukrajino?
Kako bi nekdo, ki je na forumu registriran ravno en dan, sploh moral na forumu kaj dlje časa poslušati?
Doesn't compute...
#65W!
redtech ::
Rambutan ::
The Times pravi, da so Ukiji prisiljeni v ofenzivo, čeprav niso pripravljeni. To ni niti presenetljivo, če niso sposobni ubraniti niti Bakhmuta, kako bodo sposobni izvesti uspešen napad na dobro utrjene ruske položaje.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukra...
https://archive.is/k30Ls#selection-1005...
However, while the Ukrainians are moving quickly to assimilate their 230 new and reconditioned western tanks and 1,550 armoured vehicles, they still lack proper air defences for any big offensive operation. That puts them at risk from Russian airpower. Western defence sources are also uncertain whether senior commanders can adapt to the new systems as well as their soldiers on the ground.
Yet Kyiv has little real choice but to launch a major spring or summer offensive. Its leaders are increasingly boxed in. As an American defence official put it: “The Ukrainians have surprised us as well as Putin in the past, but have much less room for manoeuvre now . . . and the Russians know it.”
President Zelensky has managed the West with great skill, but to maintain its support he has to show what Washington insiders rather tastelessly call a “return on investment”.
He must also balance domestic politics. Hawks such as Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s military intelligence chief, prevent any meaningful talk about negotiations, even though some in the government think now is the time to put out feelers. One western diplomat in Kyiv described a “surreal parallel experience” as his interlocutors “discuss potential formats for negotiations one evening” and then “shout that there can be no talks with Russia” in public the next day.
There are also sharp limits to what the West can do. While there are calls for new and more weapons to be provided, from ATACMS (Army Tactile Missile System) long-range missiles to F-16 jets, it is not just caution or parsimony that holds the West back. One of the key issues is that of ammunition: sending more weapons systems is of little value without the shells, bullets or missiles that they are consuming at a prodigious rate.
At present, for example, the Ukrainians expend more 155mm shells in a month than America produces in a year. The West is investing in new production capacity, but this takes months or years. Ammunition cannot be conjured out of the air and Paris is blocking the EU from buying supplies outside the bloc.
Kyiv will have to attack regardless, probably aiming at some ambitious target, such as the southern city of Melitopol, a road and rail hub whose liberation would cut the so-called land bridge between Crimea and Russia.
Moscow knows this. Beyond the continued grinding assaults on the cities of Bakhmut and Vuhledar, it is already moving into a defensive mode. Ukrainian estimates, endorsed by the British Ministry of Defence, suggest that the Russian casualty rate has fallen by almost a third as a result. They are digging in, with satellite photos showing a growing array of trenches and fortifications, especially along the likely lines of Ukrainian attack in the south. It is, of course, possible that Kyiv will strike elsewhere, such as at the city of Donetsk, but while this would be symbolically powerful, it would be a tough fight, and of much less practical value.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukra...
https://archive.is/k30Ls#selection-1005...
However, while the Ukrainians are moving quickly to assimilate their 230 new and reconditioned western tanks and 1,550 armoured vehicles, they still lack proper air defences for any big offensive operation. That puts them at risk from Russian airpower. Western defence sources are also uncertain whether senior commanders can adapt to the new systems as well as their soldiers on the ground.
Yet Kyiv has little real choice but to launch a major spring or summer offensive. Its leaders are increasingly boxed in. As an American defence official put it: “The Ukrainians have surprised us as well as Putin in the past, but have much less room for manoeuvre now . . . and the Russians know it.”
President Zelensky has managed the West with great skill, but to maintain its support he has to show what Washington insiders rather tastelessly call a “return on investment”.
He must also balance domestic politics. Hawks such as Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s military intelligence chief, prevent any meaningful talk about negotiations, even though some in the government think now is the time to put out feelers. One western diplomat in Kyiv described a “surreal parallel experience” as his interlocutors “discuss potential formats for negotiations one evening” and then “shout that there can be no talks with Russia” in public the next day.
There are also sharp limits to what the West can do. While there are calls for new and more weapons to be provided, from ATACMS (Army Tactile Missile System) long-range missiles to F-16 jets, it is not just caution or parsimony that holds the West back. One of the key issues is that of ammunition: sending more weapons systems is of little value without the shells, bullets or missiles that they are consuming at a prodigious rate.
At present, for example, the Ukrainians expend more 155mm shells in a month than America produces in a year. The West is investing in new production capacity, but this takes months or years. Ammunition cannot be conjured out of the air and Paris is blocking the EU from buying supplies outside the bloc.
Kyiv will have to attack regardless, probably aiming at some ambitious target, such as the southern city of Melitopol, a road and rail hub whose liberation would cut the so-called land bridge between Crimea and Russia.
Moscow knows this. Beyond the continued grinding assaults on the cities of Bakhmut and Vuhledar, it is already moving into a defensive mode. Ukrainian estimates, endorsed by the British Ministry of Defence, suggest that the Russian casualty rate has fallen by almost a third as a result. They are digging in, with satellite photos showing a growing array of trenches and fortifications, especially along the likely lines of Ukrainian attack in the south. It is, of course, possible that Kyiv will strike elsewhere, such as at the city of Donetsk, but while this would be symbolically powerful, it would be a tough fight, and of much less practical value.
Pac-Man ::
They are digging in, with satellite photos showing a growing array of trenches and fortifications, especially along the likely lines of Ukrainian attack in the south. It is, of course, possible that Kyiv will strike elsewhere, such as at the city of Donetsk, but while this would be symbolically powerful, it would be a tough fight, and of much less practical value.
Čakaj malo, cel hulabu se je začel, da se Ukrajincem po 8ih letih končno prepreči obstreljevat Doneck, zdaj pa ne samo, da jih v več kot letu niso porinili stran na večjo razdaljo od dosega artilerije, še utrjujejo se raje povsod drugje.
0/10, čisti scam, ne priporočam
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
A. Smith ::
Neumnost, evroskeptizicem je domena rusofilov.
Prvič slišim, da so Britanci rusofili.
"Be professional, be polite,
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis
Rambutan ::
They are digging in, with satellite photos showing a growing array of trenches and fortifications, especially along the likely lines of Ukrainian attack in the south. It is, of course, possible that Kyiv will strike elsewhere, such as at the city of Donetsk, but while this would be symbolically powerful, it would be a tough fight, and of much less practical value.
Čakaj malo, cel hulabu se je začel, da se Ukrajincem po 8ih letih končno prepreči obstreljevat Doneck, zdaj pa ne samo, da jih v več kot letu niso porinili stran na večjo razdaljo od dosega artilerije, še utrjujejo se raje povsod drugje.
0/10, čisti scam, ne priporočam
Zakaj bi jih napadali, če lahko lepo počakajo na ukrajinsko protiofenzivo? Boljše vprašanje je, zakaj Zahod sili Ukrajino v ofenzivo, če je v Bakhmutu očitno, da niso zmožni niti braniti se?
BorutO ::
Rusofili mogoče res spadajo v rusijo, ukrainci v eu pa še kar nekaj časa ne. Toliko o tvojem načrtu.
Ampak ali rusofili spadajo v EU?
Ni tu vprašanje ali spadajo ali ne ... to je dejstvo, da nočejo iz EUja, ker jim je tu prelepo. :) Oni vedo, da jim je tu lepo, bolj, kot bi jim bilo v Rusiji, oni so samo jezni na EU, ker podpira ZDA, katera jim je zbombardirala genocidsko državo Srbijo.
Pac-Man ::
Zakaj bi jih napadali, če lahko lepo počakajo na ukrajinsko protiofenzivo?
Ker se je SVO začela na prošnjo tamkajšnjih oblastnikov, da se končno naredi konec 8-letnemu granatiranju trpečih civilistov v Donecku s strani nacističnega režima v Kijivu.
Potem pa gredo in naredijo Mariupol. Lisčansk. Mariinko. Volnovaho. Rubižne. Popasno. Liman. Severodoneck. Bahmut.
Za češnjico na torti pa kar se njih tiče bombardirajo še ruske državljane v Hersonu. Bil referendum pa to.
Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Rambutan ::
Zakaj bi jih napadali, če lahko lepo počakajo na ukrajinsko protiofenzivo?
Ker se je SVO začela na prošnjo tamkajšnjih oblastnikov, da se končno naredi konec 8-letnemu granatiranju trpečih civilistov v Donecku s strani nacističnega režima v Kijivu.
Potem pa gredo in naredijo Mariupol. Lisčansk. Mariinko. Volnovaho. Rubižne. Popasno. Liman. Severodoneck. Bahmut.
Za češnjico na torti pa kar se njih tiče bombardirajo še ruske državljane v Hersonu. Bil referendum pa to.
Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.
Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani. Ker imajo premoč v artileriji in v zraku, jim čisto odgovarja trenutna pozicijska vojna. Še zahod jim gre na roko, ko sili Ukrajince v napad na utrjeno rusko obrambo. Ko bodo enkrati uničili ukrajinsko vojsko, bodo lahko zasedli celo Ukrajino brez odpora. Če se seveda ne vmeša NATO. Prebivalstvo bo pač moralo do zmage še naprej trpeti ukrajinsko obstreljevanje, takšna je pač realnost vojne.
mackilla ::
scythe ::
Zakaj bi jih napadali, če lahko lepo počakajo na ukrajinsko protiofenzivo?
Ker se je SVO začela na prošnjo tamkajšnjih oblastnikov, da se končno naredi konec 8-letnemu granatiranju trpečih civilistov v Donecku s strani nacističnega režima v Kijivu.
Potem pa gredo in naredijo Mariupol. Lisčansk. Mariinko. Volnovaho. Rubižne. Popasno. Liman. Severodoneck. Bahmut.
Za češnjico na torti pa kar se njih tiče bombardirajo še ruske državljane v Hersonu. Bil referendum pa to.
Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.
Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani. Ker imajo premoč v artileriji in v zraku, jim čisto odgovarja trenutna pozicijska vojna. Še zahod jim gre na roko, ko sili Ukrajince v napad na utrjeno rusko obrambo. Ko bodo enkrati uničili ukrajinsko vojsko, bodo lahko zasedli celo Ukrajino brez odpora. Če se seveda ne vmeša NATO. Prebivalstvo bo pač moralo do zmage še naprej trpeti ukrajinsko obstreljevanje, takšna je pač realnost vojne.
Sanje so dovoljene, realnost je pa drugačna. Še Kitajska smatra Krim kot Ukrajinski in ga noče priznati Rusiji, pa je že 9 let od tedi.
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mackilla ::
Zakaj bi jih napadali, če lahko lepo počakajo na ukrajinsko protiofenzivo?
Ker se je SVO začela na prošnjo tamkajšnjih oblastnikov, da se končno naredi konec 8-letnemu granatiranju trpečih civilistov v Donecku s strani nacističnega režima v Kijivu.
Potem pa gredo in naredijo Mariupol. Lisčansk. Mariinko. Volnovaho. Rubižne. Popasno. Liman. Severodoneck. Bahmut.
Za češnjico na torti pa kar se njih tiče bombardirajo še ruske državljane v Hersonu. Bil referendum pa to.
Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.
Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani. Ker imajo premoč v artileriji in v zraku, jim čisto odgovarja trenutna pozicijska vojna. Še zahod jim gre na roko, ko sili Ukrajince v napad na utrjeno rusko obrambo. Ko bodo enkrati uničili ukrajinsko vojsko, bodo lahko zasedli celo Ukrajino brez odpora. Če se seveda ne vmeša NATO. Prebivalstvo bo pač moralo do zmage še naprej trpeti ukrajinsko obstreljevanje, takšna je pač realnost vojne.
Nobenemu ne odgovarja pozicijska vojna. Najmanj žrtev bi imeli z hitro zmago. A misliš,da je komu odgovarjalo bojevanje kot je bilo v prvi svetovni vojni. Rusi pač niso ne sposobni in ne opremljeni za kaj drugega. Prebivalstvo bo moralo trpeti predvsem rusko obstreljevanje. Saj si sam napisal,da imajo več artilerije,ki je seveda tudi manj natančna.
Pac-Man ::
Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani.
Potem varčujejo z vojaki, ne civilisti? Ker prebivalci Donecka so za Rusijo Rusi.
Bi si želel živet v državi, kjer se prebivalci smatrajo kot živi ščit za vojsko?
Kot sem napisal
Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Rambutan ::
Zakaj bi jih napadali, če lahko lepo počakajo na ukrajinsko protiofenzivo?
Ker se je SVO začela na prošnjo tamkajšnjih oblastnikov, da se končno naredi konec 8-letnemu granatiranju trpečih civilistov v Donecku s strani nacističnega režima v Kijivu.
Potem pa gredo in naredijo Mariupol. Lisčansk. Mariinko. Volnovaho. Rubižne. Popasno. Liman. Severodoneck. Bahmut.
Za češnjico na torti pa kar se njih tiče bombardirajo še ruske državljane v Hersonu. Bil referendum pa to.
Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.
Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani. Ker imajo premoč v artileriji in v zraku, jim čisto odgovarja trenutna pozicijska vojna. Še zahod jim gre na roko, ko sili Ukrajince v napad na utrjeno rusko obrambo. Ko bodo enkrati uničili ukrajinsko vojsko, bodo lahko zasedli celo Ukrajino brez odpora. Če se seveda ne vmeša NATO. Prebivalstvo bo pač moralo do zmage še naprej trpeti ukrajinsko obstreljevanje, takšna je pač realnost vojne.
Nobenemu ne odgovarja pozicijska vojna. Najmanj žrtev bi imeli z hitro zmago. A misliš,da je komu odgovarjalo bojevanje kot je bilo v prvi svetovni vojni. Rusi pač niso ne sposobni in ne opremljeni za kaj drugega. Prebivalstvo bo moralo trpeti predvsem rusko obstreljevanje. Saj si sam napisal,da imajo več artilerije,ki je seveda tudi manj natančna.
Nice coping, ko Ukrajincem zmanjkuje streliva, so kar naenkrat bolj natančni z artilerijo. Zahodna propaganda še prijema vidim.
Sicer pa Rusi imajo veliko premoč v artileriji in zadnje čase so z letali zmeraj bolj aktivni, z vodenimi 1.500kg bombami neovirano napadajo Ukrajince, tako da ne razumem zakaj jim ne bi odgovarjala trenutna pozicijska vojna. Pa še Ukrajinci imajo napačno taktiko, ko dovažajo nove in nove vojake v izgubljeno pozicijo v Bakhmut. Ukrajinci so prisiljeni v ofenzivo, ki bo pa zelo tvegana, velike žrtve so garantirane, uspeh pa še zdaleč ne.
Rambutan ::
Saj bodo premagali Ukrajince, to ni nobenega dvoma. Bodo pa to naredili s čim manj žrtvami na svoji strani.
Potem varčujejo z vojaki, ne civilisti? Ker prebivalci Donecka so za Rusijo Rusi.
Bi si želel živet v državi, kjer se prebivalci smatrajo kot živi ščit za vojsko?
Kot sem napisal
Na koncu se izkaže, da je najbolj nevarno bit Rus, ki ga v Kremlju smatrajo za ogroženega.
Tako je, če bi hoteli hitro prodreti skozi ukrajinske obrambne linije, ki so jih Ukiji utrjevali od 2014, bi verjetno utrpeli velike človeške izgube. Takšna je pač realnost, isto se bo pokazalo pri ukrajisnki ofenzivi, kjer bodo imeli ogromne izgube, uspeh pa je dvomljiv. Če jo bodo Ukrajinci sploh izvedli, se mi zdi da se zavedajo, da bo neuspeh ofenzive za njih zapečatil usodo.