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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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mackilla ::
Wagnerovc priznava poboj otrok...
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
"She's a little kid, 5 or 6 years old. I took a killshot. We were told to let no one out"
Russian project Gulagu net published a video with the confessions of two convicts, ex-commanders of Wagner PMC subdivisions - Azamat Uldarov and ex convict Aleksey Savichev.
They admit to killing Ukrainian children and civilians in Bakhmut and Soledar.
Dno dna.
To se zgodi,ko pošlješ posiljevalce in morilce iz zaporov nad normalne ljudi. Eni bodo našli izgovor tudi za to.
fur80 ::
Wagnerovc priznava poboj otrok...
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
"She's a little kid, 5 or 6 years old. I took a killshot. We were told to let no one out"
Russian project Gulagu net published a video with the confessions of two convicts, ex-commanders of Wagner PMC subdivisions - Azamat Uldarov and ex convict Aleksey Savichev.
They admit to killing Ukrainian children and civilians in Bakhmut and Soledar.
Dno dna.
To se zgodi,ko pošlješ posiljevalce in morilce iz zaporov nad normalne ljudi. Eni bodo našli izgovor tudi za to.
Saj ne, da bi me ganilo mnenje rusofilov, pa vseeno, kdo pri zdravi pameti, se bi predal miroljubno tem Rusom in tem psihopatom. Brez pomoči Zahoda bi bil v Ukrajini masaker.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/ukr_arthistory/stat...
On this day, 17 April, in 1938 soviet government killed 36 prominent representatives of the Crimean Tatar intellectual revival. In one day, a whole constellation of public figures, writers, publicists, and scientists died.
Work of Mamut Churlu (b. 1946, in the deportation)
Among them was Üsein Abdurefi oğlu Bodaninskiy (Usein Bodaninsky, 1877 – 1938), a Crimean Tatar historian, artist, art critic, and ethnographer, the first director of the Bakhchisaray Palace Museum.
Work with Khan's Palace of Yuriy Khymych (1927-2003).
Nekje polovica naštetih ima svoje wikije
Usein Bodaninsky @ Wikipedia
...
In 1917 he was appointed director of Bakhchisaray Palace. Bodaninsky's brother died fighting for the Bolsheviks during the Russian civil war in 1920. In the mid 1920s he led a major trip in Crimea for the recovery and study of historic manuscripts, folklore, and architecture.[1]
In 1937, during the Great Purge, he was arrested in Tbilisi, accused of nationalist anti-Soviet activities, speedily charged based on Stalin's shooting lists, and shot without trial on 17 April 1938, along with a number of other prominent representatives of Crimean Tatar culture: Asan Sabri Ayvazov, Yakub Ablyamitov, Yakub Azizov, Osman Aqçoqraqlı, Ramazan Alexandrovich, Yagya Bayrashevsky, Jafar Gafarov, Kerim Dzhemaledinov, Suleiman Idrisov, Ibraim Ismailov, Abdulla Latif-zade, Fevzi Musanif, Mamut Nedim, Abduraim Samedinov, İlyas Tarhan, Server Trupçu, Seitjilil Khattatov, and Bilyal Chagar.[2][3]
On this day, 17 April, in 1938 soviet government killed 36 prominent representatives of the Crimean Tatar intellectual revival. In one day, a whole constellation of public figures, writers, publicists, and scientists died.
Work of Mamut Churlu (b. 1946, in the deportation)
Work with Khan's Palace of Yuriy Khymych (1927-2003).
Nekje polovica naštetih ima svoje wikije
Usein Bodaninsky @ Wikipedia
...
In 1917 he was appointed director of Bakhchisaray Palace. Bodaninsky's brother died fighting for the Bolsheviks during the Russian civil war in 1920. In the mid 1920s he led a major trip in Crimea for the recovery and study of historic manuscripts, folklore, and architecture.[1]
In 1937, during the Great Purge, he was arrested in Tbilisi, accused of nationalist anti-Soviet activities, speedily charged based on Stalin's shooting lists, and shot without trial on 17 April 1938, along with a number of other prominent representatives of Crimean Tatar culture: Asan Sabri Ayvazov, Yakub Ablyamitov, Yakub Azizov, Osman Aqçoqraqlı, Ramazan Alexandrovich, Yagya Bayrashevsky, Jafar Gafarov, Kerim Dzhemaledinov, Suleiman Idrisov, Ibraim Ismailov, Abdulla Latif-zade, Fevzi Musanif, Mamut Nedim, Abduraim Samedinov, İlyas Tarhan, Server Trupçu, Seitjilil Khattatov, and Bilyal Chagar.[2][3]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Famozni uboj 300 NATO časnikov v Lvivu.
Disinformation.
We were asked to GeoLocate this.
Almost 1 million views.
We won't even start...
As good as everything in the article is a lie and disinformation.
This kind of disinformation started to emerge around the beginning of March.
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status...
Disinformation.
We were asked to GeoLocate this.
Almost 1 million views.
We won't even start...
As good as everything in the article is a lie and disinformation.
This kind of disinformation started to emerge around the beginning of March.
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status...
Pac-Man ::
Heh, v 21. stoletju je popolnoma vseeno če si 1000 ali 10 000 km od fronte. Razen, če si Rus ;)
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Malidelničar ::
fur80: zanimivo te "novičke" sploh nisem zasledil. Marec 2023?? A se je valjala naokoli?
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
Pac-Man ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
fur80: zanimivo te "novičke" sploh nisem zasledil. Marec 2023?? A se je valjala naokoli?
Nekje v spominu se mi valja, da smo se delali norca, kako lahko več 10m globok bunker uničiš samo z jedrskim orožjem. Morda celo tu.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mackilla ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
fur80: zanimivo te "novičke" sploh nisem zasledil. Marec 2023?? A se je valjala naokoli?
Nekje v spominu se mi valja, da smo se delali norca, kako lahko več 10m globok bunker uničiš samo z jedrskim orožjem. Morda celo tu.
En na tem forumu je trdil,da so Rusi izstrelili sumljivo veliko kinžalov in da so bili mrtvi NATO častniki v bunkerju blizu poljske meje na ukrajinski strani.
fur80 ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
fur80: zanimivo te "novičke" sploh nisem zasledil. Marec 2023?? A se je valjala naokoli?
Nekje v spominu se mi valja, da smo se delali norca, kako lahko več 10m globok bunker uničiš samo z jedrskim orožjem. Morda celo tu.
En na tem forumu je trdil,da so Rusi izstrelili sumljivo veliko kinžalov in da so bili mrtvi NATO častniki v bunkerju blizu poljske meje na ukrajinski strani.
Eden od njih je celo trdil, da je zračni alarm nesmiselen, ker te rakete letijo z nadzvočno hitrostjo! ;)
Pac-Man ::
Wagnerovc priznava poboj otrok...
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
Cel video je uro dvajset, zaenkrat še ni podnapisov, razen če greš prevajat povsem avtomatske.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/statu...
A big drop today of two ex-Wagner fighters testifying to mass killings, including of more than 20 Ukrainian children and teenagers. Azamat Uldarov and Aleksey Savichev are both former prisoners.
They say they blew up a pit with 50+ wounded Ukrainian POWs and the so-called "500s," Russian refuseniks who didn't agree to kill Ukrainians. They cleared residences in Soledar and Bakhmut by murdering everyone.
"I executed the order with this hand, I killed the children on the order," Uldarov says. "What we did when we entered Soledar and Bakhmut... We were given the command to clear and kill everyone. We went and killed all women, men, pensioners and children, including minors, five-year-olds."
Yevgeny Prigozhin personally gave orders for the shootings, Uldarov and Savichev claim.
"PMC Putler": exposure of Evgeny Prigozhin and "Project" K ", their war crimes and cruelty
We present sensational materials and shocking evidence of terrible war crimes committed on the orders of Yevgeny Prigozhin by his subordinates from the so-called. "PMC Wagner". This video presents the testimony of two more now ex-commanders of Wagner PMC units, who were recruited as part of the Putin-Prigozhin program, known as Project K.
In this video, the first-person stories of ex-convict from IK-13 UFSIN of Russia in the Saratov region Azamat Uldarov (pardoned by decree of the President of the Russian Federation of 08/23/22) and ex-convict from IK-1 UFSIN of Russia in the Voronezh region Alexei Savichev (pardoned by decree V.V. Putin dated 09/02/2022), who were recruited by Yevgeny Prigozhin into the Wagner PMC and whose pardon was personally signed by Vladimir Putin in late August and early September 2022. Once again, without the complicity of Putin and Prigozhin, these individuals would have been serving prison terms in the colonies of the Federal Penitentiary Service, but instead, the Russian authorities sent them to war, having previously taught them how to kill other people.
Azamat and Aleksey are in Russia, 100% they are not under any influence of the SBU, CIA, etc. For a week they gave detailed and consistent testimonies during video and audio polls and told the founder of Gulagu.net Vladimir Osechkin the chilling, eerie details of the execution of more than 20 Ukrainian children and teenagers, the explosion of a pit with more than 50 wounded prisoners, and the so-called. "500s" (those who decided to leave the war and refused to carry out orders to kill Ukrainians), cleansing residential buildings with the killing of everyone, including children. Also, both ex-commanders of the Wagner PMC units said that Yevgeny Prigozhin personally gave criminal orders for executions and murders, and also approved of terrorist methods and cruelty.
These certificates are direct grounds for organizing in relation to Prigozhin E.V., Utkina D.V. and their accomplices prosecuted for dozens of brutal murders and a series of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
PS When viewing the video archive of torture by the FSB / FSIN, we found a file dated 09/14/2020, which proves the fact of torture and violent acts in a perverted form against Uldarov A.S. born in 1981 in OTB-1 UFSIN of Russia in the Saratov region. Azamat himself confirmed to us that at the direction of the head of OTB-1 Pavel Gatsenko and the head of the operational department Bochkov, capo activists beat him, tortured and raped him in OTB-1. The special department of the Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of Russia for the investigation of crimes committed by law enforcement officers has a direct obligation to initiate a criminal case under part 2 of article 132 of the Criminal Code, paragraph A of part 3 of article 286 of the Criminal Code and to ensure state protection measures against Uldarov A.S. ., protecting from revenge by E.V. Prigozhin and sadists from OTB-1.
The Youtube channel Gulagu.net, led by the founder of the project Vladimir Osechkin, has been consistently exposing the facts of grand corruption and arbitrariness of the security forces for more than 11 years, doing everything possible to protect human rights in Russia and the post-Soviet space in the interests of democracy and a brighter future. We fight against sadists and corrupt officials, expose entire organized crime groups and criminal communities, and also assist the international investigation of crimes against humanity and humanity that have been committed both on the territory of Ukraine and on the territory of Russia. We are independent of states and any special services, we act sincerely and honestly, and our only strength is solidarity and unity of efforts. If you respect our work and share our values, if you want to contribute to our independent investigations and collect important materials for new videos and releases, support us with donations and subscriptions, make your contribution to the common cause with donations and financial assistance. The more resources we have, the more we can do together.
To be kind, but of course NO to the Gulag and war in the 21st century! We continue. Now together again.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
PS When viewing the video archive of torture by the FSB / FSIN, we found a file dated 09/14/2020, which proves the fact of torture and violent acts in a perverted form against Uldarov A.S. born in 1981 in OTB-1 UFSIN of Russia in the Saratov region. Azamat himself confirmed to us that at the direction of the head of OTB-1 Pavel Gatsenko and the head of the operational department Bochkov, capo activists beat him, tortured and raped him in OTB-1.
Tu govorijo o tem:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/10/...
A prominent NGO that tracks abuses in Russia’s prison system says it has received “thousands” of leaked video clips showing inmates being beaten and tortured by guards in several prisons across the country.
“This is an unprecedented leak that will send shockwaves across the country. In total we have over 40 gigabytes of files showing widespread torture,” Vladimir Osechkin, the founder of the Gulagu.net rights group, told The Moscow Times in a phone interview.
Russia prison scandal: Inmates subjected to torture and sexual abuse | Fokus on Europa
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Rambutan ::
Lesoto ::
Rusi pravijo, da so afriške države njihov zaveznik. Čudn glede na to, kako jim grejo vsi črnci v nos.
Half a minute of racism from Skabeeva.
https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/statu...
Half a minute of racism from Skabeeva.
https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/statu...
mackilla ::
Prvi Leopard uničen, Prigožin bo moral skeširat nagrado
https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/...
Ta tank je poškodovan in ne uničen. Tule imaš uničen tank
Je kar razlika.fikus_ ::
Famozni uboj 300 NATO časnikov v Lvivu.
Disinformation.
We were asked to GeoLocate this.
Almost 1 million views.
We won't even start...
As good as everything in the article is a lie and disinformation.
This kind of disinformation started to emerge around the beginning of March.
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status...
In ti si verjel tistim slikicam ter pisanju?! Sedaj si zadovoljen in verjameš pisanju, da so bile slike ter pisanje fejk?!
Propaganda dela 200 na uro, tako da je potrebno jemati info z veliko rezerve.
Obe strani skrivata svoje izgube in pretiravata pri nasprotniku.
Pred nekaj dnevi sem zasledil da so izgube 1:7 v korist RU. To je neverjetna številka. To bi pomenilo 140 tisoč UA vojakov proti 29 tisoč RU. Številke sem si zmislil.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
trancer01 ::
V resnici je mrtvih ukrajinskih vojakov zelo verjetno več kot tristo tisoč. Razmerje v številu mrtvih med UA in ARF pa bliže 10:1 kot 7:1
Zgodovina sprememb…
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scythe ::
Prvi Leopard uničen, Prigožin bo moral skeširat nagrado
https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/...
To je slika iz poligona, lokacija Poljska. Spet so te na suho...
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fikus_ ::
Si nasedel. Vklopi sarkazem detektor
Tale je pa imel krompir oz. kdor zmore pač zmore
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1X9bcyw3N...
Tale je pa imel krompir oz. kdor zmore pač zmore
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1X9bcyw3N...
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
connel ::
Zanimiva analiza nacističnega puča v Ukrajini leta 2014.
Zelo ja, to že vse vemo, putka je tudi CIA implant, pravzaprav je vse plod CIE, malo je zraven pa še EU, pa ne pozabimo na 4. rajh na temni strani lune.
Rambutan ::
Prvi Leopard uničen, Prigožin bo moral skeširat nagrado
https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/...
To je slika iz poligona, lokacija Poljska. Spet so te na suho...
Tudi sabotaže prizna Prigožin...
mackilla ::
trancer01 ::
Zadnja številka s pogrešanimi, ki sem jo zasledil, je 322k mrtvih in pogrešanih vojakov UA in okoli 30k mrtvih vojakov ARF brez upoštevanja vseh milic in plačancev. Skupaj s plačanci in milicami je mrtvih Rusov najbrž okoli 50k. Ker je velika večina žrtev v tej vojni posledica artilerije, kjer imajo Rusi prav tako premoč 1:10, se mi te številke ne zdijo povsem nemogoče.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: trancer01 ()
mackilla ::
Zadnja številka s pogrešanimi, ki sem jo zasledil, je 322k mrtvih in pogrešanih vojakov UA in okoli 30k mrtvih vojakov ARF brez upoštevanja vseh milic in plačancev. Skupaj s plačanci in milicami je mrtvih Rusov najbrž okoli 50k. Ker je velika večina žrtev v tej vojni posledica artilerije, kjer imajo Rusi prav tako premoč 1:10, se mi te številke ne zdijo povsem nemogoče.
Kje si pa zasledil te številke? Če je 50k mrtvih Rusov in 10 krat več Ukrajincev pomeni,da imajo Ukrajinci 500k mrtvih in vsaj trikrat toliko ranjenih. Se pravi okoli 2 milijona izgub. Če se ti te številke zdijo logične imaš hude probleme. Ob takšnih izgubah bi Ukrajinska vojska enostavno izginila in bi se Rusi zdajle sprehajali po Ukrajini
trancer01 ::
Uradne številke so seveda nižje. Okoli 30k mrtvih Rusov in okoli 200-250k mrtvih Ukrajincev. Ukrajinci so imeli že sedem naborov, na začetku še veliko prostovoljcev, zdaj v glavnem skoraj samo še prisilni vpoklici. Tu je nekaj o tem, čeprav brez konkretnih številk.
Da, v mokrih sanjah ukrajinskih nacistov.
po moje so bolj verjetne tele cifre
https://www.minusrus.com/en
Da, v mokrih sanjah ukrajinskih nacistov.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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mackilla ::
Uradne številke so seveda nižje. Okoli 30k mrtvih Rusov in okoli 200-250k mrtvih Ukrajincev. Ukrajinci so imeli že sedem naborov, na začetku še veliko prostovoljcev, zdaj v glavnem skoraj samo še prisilni vpoklici. Tu je nekaj o tem, čeprav brez konkretnih številk.
po moje so bolj verjetne tele cifre
https://www.minusrus.com/en
Da, v mokrih sanjah ukrajinskih nacistov.
No tole pojasni marsikaj. Informacije dobivaš od kompletnega retarda.
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Pac-Man ::
Zlato. Najboljši del @15:30, Gorbi je bil navaden banderit, zato je šla SZ po gobe :D
Z Westerners Promote Russia in New Propaganda 🇷🇺
Z Westerners Promote Russia in New Propaganda 🇷🇺
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Rambutan ::
Uradne številke so seveda nižje. Okoli 30k mrtvih Rusov in okoli 200-250k mrtvih Ukrajincev. Ukrajinci so imeli že sedem naborov, na začetku še veliko prostovoljcev, zdaj v glavnem skoraj samo še prisilni vpoklici. Tu je nekaj o tem, čeprav brez konkretnih številk.
po moje so bolj verjetne tele cifre
https://www.minusrus.com/en
Da, v mokrih sanjah ukrajinskih nacistov.
Če pomisliš da so se Ukiji lani poleti hvalili z 1M vojaki, sami so priznali da imajo do 500 mrtvih na dan, mobike pa dobesedno ugrabljajo po ulicah, so to kar verjetne številke.
Kljub temu, da artilerija povzroči čez 70% vseh smrti, Rusi pa imajo veliko premoč v artileriji, nekateri še verjamejo v ukrajinske pravljice...
bbbbbb2015 ::
V resnici je mrtvih ukrajinskih vojakov zelo verjetno več kot tristo tisoč. Razmerje v številu mrtvih med UA in ARF pa bliže 10:1 kot 7:1
Se pravi kake 400k mrtvih in preko milijon ranjenih? Dobro vas pasejo Rusi po svojih travnikih.
Izgube vojakov se praviloma nikoli ne štejejo v "mrtvih" in "ranjenih". Ampak se štejejo kot "izgube". Sem se štejejo tudi "missing in action", torej zajeti in načeloma tudi dezerterji. Sem se štejejo tudi refuzniki - torej tisti, ki odklanjajo boj. To so čisto praktični razlogi. Nekdo je lahko ranjen in kasneje umre.
Načeloma je tako, da tisti, ki napadajo, trpijo višje izgube.
Izgube so dinamična stvar. Pet jih gre v bolnico, ranjenih, potem pa, načeloma če se pozdravijo, gredo nazaj v boj. Težava je seveda, če so poškodbe hude, šrapneli, odrezane roke, noge. Ti so invalidi.
Mi smo lahko zelo veseli, da ta boj ne čaka nas ali naše otroke. Mnenja sem, da je Bakmut ta hip bolj porušen, kot Stalingrad. Deli mesta, čez katere hočejo Rusi napasti so ruševine.
Sheteentz ::
Ukrajinska pravljica se je začela, ko so v enem tednu jeseni osvojili par deset posto ozemlja, ki so ga Rusi kontrolirali.
Naša pravljica torej bazira na javno dostopnih podatkih. Tle ni nobenih teorij zarote, zgolj gola dejstva. Ker se od takrat ni nič bistvenega spremenilo, npr. Rusi tega ozemlja niso nazaj osvojili, tudi ni razloga, da bi pravljico modificirali. Ko bo pa prišlo do spremembe, ko bo npr. ruska vojska do take mere uničila ukrajinsko vojsko, da več ne bodo zmogli branit ozemlja, potem bomo pa našo pravljico pokopali. Da bi pa vnaprej delali neke projekcije z abnormalno širokim ambitusom možnosti, je pa neproduktivno. Ne zanima nas kaj vse je možno, temveč kaj je bolj ali manj verjetno. To verjetnost pa utemeljujemo na preteklih javno dostopnih dogodkih.
Trenutno gremo torej z našo pravljico veselo naprej v tole napovedano ukrajinsko ofenzivo, ki se zna zgoditi v mesecu ali dveh. Do takrat se verjetno nič ne bo spremenilo, zatorej nima bistva spreminjati tele naše pravljice.
Pač, goli pragmatizem.
Naša pravljica torej bazira na javno dostopnih podatkih. Tle ni nobenih teorij zarote, zgolj gola dejstva. Ker se od takrat ni nič bistvenega spremenilo, npr. Rusi tega ozemlja niso nazaj osvojili, tudi ni razloga, da bi pravljico modificirali. Ko bo pa prišlo do spremembe, ko bo npr. ruska vojska do take mere uničila ukrajinsko vojsko, da več ne bodo zmogli branit ozemlja, potem bomo pa našo pravljico pokopali. Da bi pa vnaprej delali neke projekcije z abnormalno širokim ambitusom možnosti, je pa neproduktivno. Ne zanima nas kaj vse je možno, temveč kaj je bolj ali manj verjetno. To verjetnost pa utemeljujemo na preteklih javno dostopnih dogodkih.
Trenutno gremo torej z našo pravljico veselo naprej v tole napovedano ukrajinsko ofenzivo, ki se zna zgoditi v mesecu ali dveh. Do takrat se verjetno nič ne bo spremenilo, zatorej nima bistva spreminjati tele naše pravljice.
Pač, goli pragmatizem.
bbbbbb2015 ::
Tatarstan je želel na svoje, nafte kolikor hočeš
1992 Tatarstani sovereignty referendum @ Wikipedia
Pa so jih zgleda z dovoljeno korupcijo med elitami zadržali znotraj federacije, podobna fora kot v Čečeniji
Bribes. Palaces. Aircraft. Why sold the people of Tatarstan
Pa saj prihodnost bo pokazala, enako, kot za Čečene. Sigurno obstaja sedaj "elita" v Tatarstanu, ki zauga drobtinice. Enako kot Kadirov, te drobtinice vestno lepo potala. Tudi mobilizacija ni šla gladko:
Mobiliziranci iz Tatarstana so bili v šotorih, brez ogrevanja, brez opreme. Ne verjamem, da je vse to šlo "skozi" brez razpok v zaupanju v Putina in Ruse.
Ukrajinska pravljica se je začela, ko so v enem tednu jeseni osvojili par deset posto ozemlja, ki so ga Rusi kontrolirali.
Naša pravljica torej bazira na javno dostopnih podatkih. Tle ni nobenih teorij zarote, zgolj gola dejstva. Ker se od takrat ni nič bistvenega spremenilo, npr. Rusi tega ozemlja niso nazaj osvojili, tudi ni razloga, da bi pravljico modificirali. Ko bo pa prišlo do spremembe, ko bo npr. ruska vojska do take mere uničila ukrajinsko vojsko, da več ne bodo zmogli branit ozemlja, potem bomo pa našo pravljico pokopali. Da bi pa vnaprej delali neke projekcije z abnormalno širokim ambitusom možnosti, je pa neproduktivno. Ne zanima nas kaj vse je možno, temveč kaj je bolj ali manj verjetno. To verjetnost pa utemeljujemo na preteklih javno dostopnih dogodkih.
Trenutno gremo torej z našo pravljico veselo naprej v tole napovedano ukrajinsko ofenzivo, ki se zna zgoditi v mesecu ali dveh. Do takrat se verjetno nič ne bo spremenilo, zatorej nima bistva spreminjati tele naše pravljice.
Pač, goli pragmatizem.
Pa predlagam, da greš pragmatično pomagat Rusom. Ali wagnerjevcem. Ali orkom, pač. Toliko pazi edino, da bo vsakega 15. dnar na računu. Ker Rusi znajo biti švohtni s plačilom.
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Sheteentz ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Pa predlagam, da greš pragmatično pomagat Rusom. Ali wagnerjevcem. Ali orkom, pač. Toliko pazi edino, da bo vsakega 15. dnar na računu. Ker Rusi znajo biti švohtni s plačilom.
Ne razumem točno, kaj si želel s tem sporočilom povedati. A si me prebral kot podpornika rusov?
Chalky ::
A Moscow court on Monday sentenced an outspoken critic of the Kremlin to 25 years in prison, an unusually harsh punishment that underscores President Vladimir Putin's increasing determination to equate dissent with treason.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1648...
Bizarno 25 let. Putin se res boji drugače mislečih. Me zanima do kam bi šel če bi recimo protestirali 5 milijonov ljudi bi vse zaprli?
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1648...
Bizarno 25 let. Putin se res boji drugače mislečih. Me zanima do kam bi šel če bi recimo protestirali 5 milijonov ljudi bi vse zaprli?
gozdar1 ::
V resnici je mrtvih ukrajinskih vojakov zelo verjetno več kot tristo tisoč. Razmerje v številu mrtvih med UA in ARF pa bliže 10:1 kot 7:1
Če bi bilo to res bi se rusi samo sprehodili, do kijeva. Po drugi strani, pa če verjamemo ruskim cifram o lastnih žrtvah, mobilizacija ni bila potrebna.
101teflon ::
Na koncu te vojne bo nek rezultat, ki ga nobena propaganda ne bo mogla spremeniti.
Povej nam kako Rusija dosega kaj od tega ?
Internet ne pozablja Ruske propagande iz časa začetka vojna. Rusija še najslabše opcije ni uspela realizirat kaj šele kaj več
Pírova zmága je zmaga s pogubnimi posledicami za zmagovalca. Fraza je aluzija na epirskega kralja Pira, katerega vojska je utrpela nenadomestljive izgube, ko je premagal Rimljane.
Meni je tale Pirova Ruska zmaga zelo povšeči. Tisti del o pogubnih posledicah za zmagovalca ;)
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shmandi ::
101teflon ::
101teflon ::
Bomo videli.
Kot smo videli bežanje iz Kijeva, Harkova in Khersona ?
Večnost z precej omejenim rokom trajanja
Uradne številke so seveda nižje. Okoli 30k mrtvih Rusov in okoli 200-250k mrtvih Ukrajincev. Ukrajinci so imeli že sedem naborov, na začetku še veliko prostovoljcev, zdaj v glavnem skoraj samo še prisilni vpoklici. Tu je nekaj o tem, čeprav brez konkretnih številk.
po moje so bolj verjetne tele cifre
https://www.minusrus.com/en
Da, v mokrih sanjah ukrajinskih nacistov.
Ruski nacisti so pa kul ?
Mislim da ves Ukrajinski nacizem razvodeni pred sedanjim Ruskim. Rusi so ga navili na 11.
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trancer01 ::
Vsak vidi tisto, kar želi. Jaz ne vidim, da bi UA lahko pregnala Ruse iz Ukrajine, kljub vsej podpori NATA. Dlje kot traja vojna, manjša je verjetnost, da bo kaj ostalo od Ukrajine. Nacističnemu režimu v Ukrajini pa so šteti dnevi.
101teflon ::
Vsak vidi tisto, kar želi. Jaz ne vidim, da bi UA lahko pregnala Ruse iz Ukrajine, kljub vsej podpori NATA. Dlje kot traja vojna, manjša je verjetnost, da bo kaj ostalo od Ukrajine. Nacističnemu režimu v Ukrajini pa so šteti dnevi.
Si prepričan, da niso Rusi tisti ta glavni naciji ?
Simbolika.
Siljenje otrok v neke Z simbole.
Hitlerjeva mladina.
Miselni zločnini...
Vsak vidi tisto, kar želi. Jaz ne vidim, da bi UA lahko pregnala Ruse iz Ukrajine, kljub vsej podpori NATA.
Počakamo da Rusija crkne.
Tudi v Afganistanu nihče ni mislil da bo Afganistan prestal okupacijo s strani SZ.
Pa smo videli kako je po 10h letih na koncu SZ sedal dol
Ruski imperij -> SZ -> RF -> Moskovia ?
Vsako iteracijo manjša, bolj reavna in bolj blatna
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mackilla ::
Vsak vidi tisto, kar želi. Jaz ne vidim, da bi UA lahko pregnala Ruse iz Ukrajine, kljub vsej podpori NATA. Dlje kot traja vojna, manjša je verjetnost, da bo kaj ostalo od Ukrajine. Nacističnemu režimu v Ukrajini pa so šteti dnevi.
Očitno ne slediš ruski propagandi. Naciji so že mimo. Prav tako satanisti in necromancerji. Sam ne vem več kaj je zdaj aktualno
mikhaair ::
Prigožin in delovanje Wagnerja lahko po, kot nas večina upa, uspešnem čiščenju UA, predstavijo kot odpadnike, ki so izvajali zločine, samostojne akcije.
Upam, da zahod uspešno prisluškuje in nadzira stanje v UA in hrani za potrebe sodb na mednarodnem sodišču.
Mi pa ni jasno, kako bi se lahko ruske glave očistilo nacizma, putinizma, sovjetizma.
Upam, da zahod uspešno prisluškuje in nadzira stanje v UA in hrani za potrebe sodb na mednarodnem sodišču.
Mi pa ni jasno, kako bi se lahko ruske glave očistilo nacizma, putinizma, sovjetizma.
Geho ::
Busted!
Še pri nas rabimo tele naše rusofilkote expose-at pa prijavit kam, da jih kaki organi pregona obiščejo malo. Če ne drugega pa enosmerno vozovnico za njihov raj na zemlji...
Še pri nas rabimo tele naše rusofilkote expose-at pa prijavit kam, da jih kaki organi pregona obiščejo malo. Če ne drugega pa enosmerno vozovnico za njihov raj na zemlji...