Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

dice7 je 28. sep 2022 ob 14:31 izjavil:

BorutO je 28. sep 2022 ob 12:13 izjavil:

Ukrajinci 100% niso bili, ker niti nimajo podmornic. To je naredila država, ki ima podmornice ... Jaz si upam trditi, da so bili Rusi. Šli bodo na vse ali nič oz. oko za oko ...

Samo rusom je v interesu, da se odnosi med zda in eu poslabsajo.
Samo rusom je v interesu, da letijo cene energentov v nebo.

Ocitno je kam pes taco moli

Stikalo je 28. sep 2022 ob 15:10 izjavil:

Pomojem so 2 stvari. Če rusija ne dobavlja pljina, mora zagotovo plačati pogodbene kazni. Če pa zaradi višje sile ne more se pa temu izogne. Zato je verjetno dal putler rastreliti plinovod.

Nekaj plina v cevi definitivno je. Premer cevi je 1,2m in dolžina je cca 1220 km, torej je notri 1.380.860 m3 utakočinjenega plina. Pa če je 1m utekočinjenega plina 300€ je to za cca 0,4 miljarde €. Nekaj definitvno JE. No potem je še NS1.

Kebo je 28. sep 2022 ob 16:24 izjavil:

Goldman Sachs drgač predvideva, da bo šla cena plina na evropskih trgih na pol v naslednjih mesecih, ker so se zaloge napolnile in vsi delajo na zmanjševanju porabe.

Lonsarg je 28. sep 2022 ob 16:46 izjavil:

Najvec motiva imajo sicer res v US, ampak po drugi strani US precej bolj na subtilen nacin dosega svoje zadeve. Dvomim da se jim splaca tvegat spor z Nemci ce jih ulovijo pri dejanju. Nekak se formula tveganje vs profit ne izzide.

Tak da ni tko izi tle najt krivca.

tikitoki je 28. sep 2022 ob 17:03 izjavil:

Kebo je 28. sep 2022 ob 16:24 izjavil:

Goldman Sachs drgač predvideva, da bo šla cena plina na evropskih trgih na pol v naslednjih mesecih, ker so se zaloge napolnile in vsi delajo na zmanjševanju porabe.

Na pol cesa? Trenutno bistveno visje cene, kot je bila pred krizo?

Lonsarg je 28. sep 2022 ob 16:46 izjavil:

Najvec motiva imajo sicer res v US, ampak po drugi strani US precej bolj na subtilen nacin dosega svoje zadeve. Dvomim da se jim splaca tvegat spor z Nemci ce jih ulovijo pri dejanju. Nekak se formula tveganje vs profit ne izzide.

Tak da ni tko izi tle najt krivca.

Kdaj pa je to se skrbelo jenkije?

Stikalo je 28. sep 2022 ob 15:10 izjavil:

Nekaj plina v cevi definitivno je. Premer cevi je 1,2m in dolžina je cca 1220 km, torej je notri 1.380.860 m3 utakočinjenega plina. Pa če je 1m utekočinjenega plina 300€ je to za cca 0,4 miljarde €. Nekaj definitvno JE. No potem je še NS1.

tikitoki je 28. sep 2022 ob 18:03 izjavil:

mackilla je 28. sep 2022 ob 17:26 izjavil:

A si sploh prebral kaj je napisal? Američanom se ne splača uničiti plinovoda,ki je že tako mrtev v vodi,da bi tvegali razkol z Evropo.

Nesmisel. Ti, da so rusi prekinili dobavo, ne pomeni, da ni bilo moznosti, da se to ne spremeni. Unicenje je zagotovilo, da ne more poriti do preobrata pri dobavi. To koristi zgolj ZD, Ukrajini in verjetno se komu. Sigurno ne Nemciji, ali Rusiji.

A LAV 6.0 Armoured Combat Support Vehicle (ACSV) found on the Federal Motorway 20 in Germany, as part of a $500 million package of Canadian military aid for Ukraine.

This is the official “roll-out” of the first Armoured Combat Support Vehicle (ACSV) variant -- a Troop Cargo Vehicle (TCV) -- for the Canadian Army.

Light Armoured Vehicles have protected Canada’s Soldiers on missions abroad for more than 40 years, and it is a privilege for General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada to continue innovating for the Canadian Army.

Five Russian soldiers are being charged by Ukrainian authorities for shooting at civilian cars fleeing Hostomel on 25 February, killing six and injuring 5. Their identities were published by the Ukrainians.

15 minutes of CCTV footage showing the attacks on civilian cars were released by Ukrainian authorities, which you can view in the below link:

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Erik Mose, the head of the United Nation’s team investigating war crimes in Ukraine, said on Friday they had found evidence of war crimes including executions, torture and sexual violence in civilian areas. Mose said he was especially “struck by the large number of executions in the areas that we visited”.

The Russian soldiers are charged with killing five people, and injuring a further six, who were trying to flee Hostomel on 25 February, a day after Russia invaded. A total of 11 people were killed and 14 injured on the stretch of road in question, say Ukraine’s authorities.

Ukraine’s security services alleged in a statement that the charged Russian soldiers had shot at 12 cars over a period of six hours. According to security services, three of the five men identified gave the orders to shoot at the vehicles.

“The criminal order to shoot at civilians was given by the commander of the riot police (from Krasnoyarsk region), his deputy and Russian national guard commander from the Krasnoyarsk region,” read the statement from Ukraine’s security services, which was accompanied by pictures of the men taken from CCTV.

One of those shot along the stretch of road outside Hostomel was a German national, driving to collect his family, but he survived, said Klymenko.

In March, before being shot by a Russian sniper himself, Eduard Lysovysk, a 59-year-old man from Hostomel, helped a woman whose car had been shot at while trying to leave the town with her grandson, Sasha. Sasha was shot in the forehead and 10 times in the chest and did not survive.

Lysovyk kept a visual diary, which included footage of several shot bloodstained cars on the road outside Hostomel.

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Oleksandr, known as Sasha, did not have the life of an ordinary 18-year-old. His mother, Sveta, was diagnosed with muscular dystrophy when Sasha was three. Sasha had spent his life taking care of her, helping her dress, wash and go to the toilet.

Sasha had a natural love of learning, according to his family. From when he started to talk, he loved reciting poetry. At the age of seven he asked if he could learn to play the piano. Despite finishing music school with honours, he decided to study medicine. He attained full marks in Ukraine’s national high school exams for chemistry and biology and was given a scholarship to Ukraine’s best medical school, in Kyiv. Another top university, Taras Shevchenko University, also in Kyiv, rang his mother to complain when they heard he would not be coming to them.

Sasha planned to become a neurosurgeon to help cure his mother’s disease, his family said. The bookshelves in Sasha’s bedroom in Kyiv are filled with thick textbooks and encyclopedias. For his birthday last year he asked for two books, Robert Brooker’s Genetics: Analysis and Principles and the British Medical Association’s Illustrated Medical Dictionary. His mother ordered them from abroad.

“He didn’t drink, smoke or go out at night. He was a total homebody, a peaceful boy,” said Sveta, sitting in her wheelchair in Sasha’s bedroom. “He knew that I needed help and he would always run home after school to help me. When I was down or depressed because of my illness and he would pick me up and even give me massages.

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Poldi112 je 28. sep 2022 ob 18:48 izjavil:

blay44 je 28. sep 2022 ob 12:12 izjavil:

Po moje Evropa nikoli več ne bo kupovala v velikih količinah, kar koli, kar bo prihajalo iz Rusije.

Seveda ne, ker Evropa ne sledi kapitalističnim načelom, ampak lastni propagandi o svobodi in človekovih pravicah, tako da bomo tudi stradali za te plemenite namene, če bo potrebno!

mtosev je 28. sep 2022 ob 18:45 izjavil:

Me zanima kolk kmalu bo Putin podpisal annexation. Kako fajn bo to za tam živeče ljudi, ki nočejo biti pod Rusijo.

Zakaj ne bi hoteli biti pod rusi? Ti CNN ni povedal, da se že leta borijo proti zatiranju s strani Ukrajine?

fikus_ je 28. sep 2022 ob 20:23 izjavil:

dice7 je 28. sep 2022 ob 20:19 izjavil:

Single line of Nord Stream 2 can still export gas

Le komu je v interesu navijati ceno do neba ter pustiti odprte moznosti nadaljne prodaje?

Domnevam da je ena eksplozija zatajila.

fikus_ je 28. sep 2022 ob 20:23 izjavil:

dice7 je 28. sep 2022 ob 20:19 izjavil:

Single line of Nord Stream 2 can still export gas

Le komu je v interesu navijati ceno do neba ter pustiti odprte moznosti nadaljne prodaje?

Domnevam da je ena eksplozija zatajila.

Zelensky's Advisor, Mykhailo Podolyak, voices an opinion that the war will end within 3 - 3.5 months after the fall of either Donetsk and Luhansk, which will lead to complete demoralisation of the RF. The whole territory of Ukraine as of 1991 will be liberated.

Pro-Russian Vostok battalion commander Aleksandr Khodakovsky tells about the dire situation with mobiks who do crazy stuff like driving into enemy positions and placing ammo in the open; blames generals for not establishing proper teamwork.

🔥 Lyman

Russian sources report combat to the southeast of Yampil'.

The Russians are close to being in an operational encirclement. If Ukraine manages to close this pocket this defeat would be recent Kharkhiv level in magnitude. Kup'yans'k-Vuzlovyi was taken by Ukrainian forces today and they are advancing towards Svatove.

The Russians have managed to create a second defensive line in Svatove.

🔥 Mobilized soldiers

There are already mobilized Russian soldiers in Ukraine and some have been killed and captured.

3 days after the mobilization there were already 10-20 thousand mobilized troops on the border of Ukraine. Units defending in Kupiansk, Svatove and Lyman have already been reinforced with mobilized soldiers in similar fashion to march battalions in WW2.

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🔥 Kherson

The UAF has fire supremacy in this region.

HIMARS, UKR aviation, and artillery are hitting the Russians. The grouping is continuously weakened until the decisive moment when it crumbles. Undisclosed and insignificant tactical actions are also occurring in the area. A barge with 3 Pantsir systems was destroyed.

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The Russians have been having big logistical difficulties for 2-3 weeks now. The Ukrainians are hitting barges and bridges to make sure they are not repaired.

This is similar to the Kyiv situation early in the war, where Russia packed a large grouping into a small place with poor logistical infrastructure and was forced to retreat.

🔥 New battalions in Russia

62 battalions are being formed all across Russia to form a new army corps.

These battalions are not self-sufficient on their own, only as part of an army corps. This is to deprive Russian regions of defense in case of internal unrest. This army corps will be filled with mobilized personnel. Notable, Moscow itself is not raising a battalion.

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🔥 Nord Stream explosion

This is an attempt to blackmail Europe, but the markets did not even react. This is because Europe is already full to the brim with gas. A New Norwegian-polish gas pipe also opened today. Scholz discussed LNG during his visit to the gulf.

🔥 Russian nuclear blackmail

This is a Russian psyop and negotiation tactic. The likelihood that Russia will use nuclear weapons exists, but it is low. if the international community demonstrates an effective reaction, it will not occur.

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We do not know NATO's reaction, the closest thing is Gen Hodges' example of the destruction of the black sea fleet. This will create a large gap in the Russian air defense network through which NATO forces can enter.

Arestovich believes the west will respond with conventional strikes because Ukraine is a country that voluntarily gave up its nukes and received guarantees in exchange, and if nukes are used against them this would be very bad for the world.

Arestovich says that Putin should fear a limited nuclear exchange with the US and UK less than a conventional response because a 3500 salvo of Tomahawks and 3 more salvos like this within 24 hours and 2500 planes in the air at once would leave nothing intact in Russia.

🔥 Crimean bridge

The AFU has nothing that can hit the Crimean bridge yet. Even weapons that have not been given to Ukraine will still not destroy it. "ATACMS is a slow rocket that would be shot down 200 times would be shot down before it reaches the bridge."

This is unlike GMLRS missiles that travel in a steep trajectory and at supersonic speeds and thus cannot be shot down. The Crimean bridge can only be destroyed by either a tactical nuclear strike or 50 tomahawk missiles, capabilities Ukraine does not have.

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🔥 Arestovich's address to Russian women

You are the true force that can stop all of this. The government does not know what to do with female protests. It is around x20 times harder to stop a crowd of furious women than men.

If women are beaten up this will lead to more collective protests, including from men. 9/10 of your relatives who go will not return from Ukraine, and you will not be able to rely on payments because there simply will not be enough one for these.

to stop this, go out and protest, and there are already 2 good examples: Chechnya and Dagestan.

Let's think for a moment about the unthinkable. What if Putin uses #nuclear weapons?

I don't believe he will, and I'll try to explain in this thread why. But this is uncharted territory, and Putin has been consistently stupid.

So buckle up. We're going down the rabbit hole.

First, a disclaimer: I've been an utter nuclear weapon nerd for more than two decades and have some knowledge about military matters. I do believe I make pretty informed guesses in this thread but take everything here with a grain of salt regardless.

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