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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

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KakoLepo ::

Ko so amerikanci zasedli nemcijo v 2. svetovni vojni, pa postavili vojasko bazo, kdaj tocno so Nemci spet postali cist neodvisni?

Mr.B ::

temprar je izjavil:

A. Smith je izjavil:

Pri teh problemih z energetiko v EU jaz ne razumem Nemcev, ki so se odpovedali delovanju 8,5GW JE in TE leta 21/22. S tem so se praktično zapakirali Rusom v naročje. Bedaki.


Morda se je za vprašati iz druge perspektive.
So se res Nemci tako odločili?

Sej so nemci sedaj rekli da druga pipa ne bo certificirana, putin pa je rekel da cez ukrajino ne bo plina " z novo pogodbo".
Sem ze kupil " zelene" delnice, cutim na vodi, da bodo rasle.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Unchancy ::

Mimogrede, zelo indikativen članek o tem, kako Putin vidi razpad SZ in kako vidi Ukrajino kot integralni del ruskega prostora.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has lamented the collapse of the Soviet Union three decades ago as the demise of what he called "historical Russia,"


In ima čez 100000 vojakov na mejah Ukrajine.
Tole se ne bo dobro končalo.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/13/euro...
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Pac-Man ::

KakoLepo je izjavil:

Ko so amerikanci zasedli nemcijo v 2. svetovni vojni, pa postavili vojasko bazo, kdaj tocno so Nemci spet postali cist neodvisni?


Ko so postavili vojaško bazo. Če se jim reče naj spokajo, spokajo. Primer Francija 1967.

History of NATO @ Wikipedia




Medtem so v varšavskem paktu ob najmanjših znakih odmika od kremeljskih dogm prišli na ulice delat red tanki iz ostalih držav članic. Primer Madžarska 1956, samo Sovjeti

Hungarian Revolution of 1956 @ Wikipedia



Češkoslovaška 1968

Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia @ Wikipedia



Na Poljskem je za tanke poskrbela kar lokalna oblast, morda zaradi grožnje sosedske pomoči

Martial law in Poland @ Wikipedia




Resno, faking srečo smo imeli, da Jugoslavija ni bila del varšavskega pakta.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Unchancy ::

Resno, faking srečo smo imeli, da Jugoslavija ni bila del varšavskega pakta.


Zanimiv ugoden stranski učinek NOB - obvladovanje teritorija z lokalno oboroženo silo. Plus dejstvo, da je bil Tito ravno dovolj aroganten, da se ni nameraval pustiti komandirati s strani Stalina.
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gozdar1 ::

In jalte.

Unchancy ::

gozdar1 je izjavil:

In jalte.

Ki je morala upoštevati stanje na terenu.
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mtosev ::

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Pac-Man ::

Marijo Butino finančno podpira dobro situiran bivši ljubimec iz ZDA, ampak ji je bilo vseeno dovoljeno sodelovat na parlamentarnih volitvah, trenutno zaseda enega od stolov v dumi. Ker je iz prave stranke in pritiska na prave gumbe.

https://twitter.com/quinncy/status/1470...

Patrick M. Byrne @ Wikipedia

After Butina's release from prison, she became involved in Russian national politics. Byrne continued to send her financial gifts, which in 2021 led members of the Russian political opposition to object to her running for political office based on her "foreign financial backing". The "gifts" were investigated in the US by the Business Insider, and Byrne admitted to them, when her candidacy with Vladimir Putin's party United Russia became public.[47]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

KakoLepo ::

Mal zgodovine ne skodi. Kaj pravi zahod glede predhodnice Ukrajine in Rusije? To naj bi bila Kijevska Rusija. Kijev pa je danes glavno mesto Ukrajine. Ali gre za kaksno podobnost, ozemlje karantanije lezi zdaj na slovenskem ozemlju ali v tuji drzavi?

Kar se tice Kijevske Rusije, pa zahod hvali to drzavo, kako je bila v tistem casu kulturno najbolj napredna drzava, bolj kot katerakoli zahodno evropska. Torej slovani so bili carji tudi po besedah zahoda.
Kijevska Rusija @ Wikipedia

KakoLepo ::

Kdo ima od tega korist, da se narodi slovanov ne stekajo med sabo? A se razumejo poljaki pa rusi? srbi pa hrvati? zdaj po novem pa tudi ukrajinci pa rusi, crnogorci pa srbi, slovenci pa hrvati. Njabolj mi je cudn, da so uspel crnogorce pa srbe. No, sej pomoje, je to bolj politicno, navadn folk niti ne toliko.

gozdar1 ::

Francozi in angleži se dajejo že soletja, katera "belosvetska" entiteta stoji za tem?

Pac-Man ::

To

https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/statu...
Putin calls dissolution of USSR tragedy and ‘collapse of historical Russia’:

to

https://twitter.com/Mortis_Banned/statu...
Saying the quiet part out loud, the USSR was a continuation of the Russiain imperial project but with a different economic system and industrial means of oppressing its population

in to

https://twitter.com/MaximEristavi/statu...
i don’t know what it is, racism or historical blind spot — or both — but the western failure to acknowledge #RussianColonialism through its consecutive imperial stages of absolutism, communism and capitalist kleptocracy is the biggest geopolitical failure the west has ever had

@zadnji komentar - med komunizmom je lep del zahoda kritiziral #RuskiKolonializem. Ne povsod (Ukrajina ni štela) in ne vedno iz pravega vzgiba.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

endelin ::

Putin ne bo napadel ukrajine. To bi pomenilo hladno vojno med natom in rusijo. In izredne sankcije ki bodo slej ali prej udarile tudi na priljubljenost putina, ki že sedaj ni več rekordno visoko

KakoLepo ::

Pa se nekaj ko omenjate sovjetsko zvezo, komunizem ni izumljen na vzhodu ampak na zahodu. Kako je potem iz zahoda prisel na vzhod pa je drugo vprasanje.

kuall ::

>communism grew out of the socialist movement in 19th-century Europe

torej imamo prav, ko svarimo pred levaki. levičarstvo hitro preraste v "genialno" ideologijo, ki pobije milijone.

>socialist critics blamed capitalism for the misery of the proletariat

to pa še danes delate. nič vas ni izučilo. napačen vzrok ste določili. kapitalizem ni kriv za vašo bedo, izboljšuje vam jo. ampak če se rodiš neumen ne moreš pričakovat čudežev, a ne.

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Pac-Man ::

Danes bodo v Berlinu razglasili sodbo v primeru umora s precej očitnimi znaki vpletenosti ruske države. Nit:

https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Sodba izrečena. Kriv, dosmrtni zapor.

https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

Direktorica RT je novinarja Romana Dobrokhotova, ki je pomagal pri sodnem pregonu berlinskega morilca, razglasila za "izdajalca domovine". Enak naziv sta si, prav tako brez sojenja, pridobila tudi Litvinenko (polonij) in Skripal (novičok).
Predstavljajte si podobno izjavo od direktorja CNN, Fox News, RFERL, VoA, DW, BBC...

BTW, uradna Moskva trdi, da ni nič res, kako je potem lahko izdajalec? Ruska verzija najboljših ljudi ;)

Roman Dobrokhotov @ Wikipedia


gtranslate:
https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/9736
It has long been clear that all these well-wishers, badanins and other jellyfish directly violate Article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and, yes, are traitors to the Motherland.
I said this to some of them in person.
But the state is kind, besides, the state is full of uncles, who themselves are ready to change their homeland at any moment, they just do not allow sins so far.
And even more in the state of those who have used and are using the services of traitors to settle personal, political and commercial accounts.
Hence the mess.


v odziv na

https://t.me/sashakots/27273

Here they write how Roman Dobrokhotov helped the German competent authorities to put the terrorist liquidator Khangoshvili on life. And they compare it with Israeli journalists (as if Dobrokhotov is about journalism), who would not have done that. I don’t know if he was a liquidator or simply “hit by a train,” but I remembered a case from my practice. Israeli journalists are not alone in their social responsibility.

In August 2011, I worked in Tripoli, which at one point came under the control of the rebels. Not without the help of Western partners, but this is not the point. One day we arrived at the airport of the Libyan capital, which had just been occupied by a group from Zintan.
We are sitting, talking with a bearded self-appointed commandant. Suddenly, a group of five people is escorted past us. Barefoot, downcast, broken. And the faces - well, straight Slavic.

- Who is this? we asked the important commandant.
“These are Gaddafi's Serbian snipers,” he replied. - We will judge and execute a little.
- Can I talk to them? we asked without any hope.
- Go ahead, - he replied complacently. We had a serious paper-all-terrain vehicle from the authority of the Zintansky - a colonel, a graduate of a Baku sailor.

The guys said that they were builders, they worked under a contract, and they saw weapons only in the movies. We immediately informed the Serbian diplomats that the embassy, ​​it seems, was still working, and the Red Crescent. The next day, food and clothing were already being delivered to them, and the execution was canceled.
For two years BIA (Serbian FSB) has been negotiating with the rebels, trying to get the guys out. And finally they managed to do it. The Serbs returned home. And then the press began to surface that one was some kind of master biathlete, another was a master of sports shooting, the third ... In short, they all turned out to be far from construction. BUT! For two years, the Serbian media were silent about this, knowing that they could harm their citizens.
This is called "knowing the line beyond which a sensation turns into treason."



https://www.rightsinrussia.org/law-of-t...

Article 275. High Treason
“High treason, that is espionage, disclosure of state secrets, or any other assistance rendered to a foreign State, a foreign organization, or their representatives in hostile activities to the detriment of the external security of the Russian Federation, committed by a citizen of the Russian Federation, shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of 12 to 20 years with confiscation of property or without such confiscation.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Par mesecev staro, spet o navalnijevi zastrupitvi&šire, dobra ura. Meni zanimiva mesta

@5:00 Imajo dva kompleta njegove medicinske dokumentacije, pridobljena poluradno in uradno. Nepresenetljivo se razlikujeta, iz obeh se da pa zaključit samo zastrupitev z organofosfati.
@13:40 Kudrjavcev v popolnosti ponovi policijski zapisnik o zaseženih oblačilih (vsebina, strgan paket, vlažno)
@19:30 o notranji organizaciji oddelka za atentate pri FSB
@30:40 o umoru politika Nikita Isaev @ Wikipedia
@33:40 o zastrupitvi pesnika Dmitry Bykov @ Wikipedia, blazno podobno zastupitvi Navalnega
@41:50 kako Rusija zahteva dokazni material za kazenski primer, ki ga sploh ni odprla
@44:30 AfD-jevci so putinovi uporabni idioti
@45:50 o OPCW (priporočam, cca 7 minut)
@54:30 o javnem dopisovanju Lavrova in nekega dr. Kozaka
@57:20 o steklenici vode

The whole truth about the poisoning of Navalny
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

V Čečeniji spetsnaz ugrablja sorodnike oporečnikov v izgnanstvu in jim grozi s posilstvi in mučenjem, če se oporečniki ne opravičijo Kadirovu.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...

Sweden-based Chechen blogger Tumso - whom the guy wielding a hammer tried to kill a year ago - reports 9 of his relatives have been kidnapped by Kadyrovites in Russia.
He also received threats his relatives will be tortured and raped unless he "apologize for insulting Ramzan"
This is the threat posted on his channel. The telephone number of the poster resolves to a 28 year old officer from Russia's SOBR spetsnaz which in Chechnya reports to Kadyrov himself.
Russia is just ISIS with nuclear weapons.
Reports that Tumso is not the only target - at least three cousins of Mansur Sadulaev, the Austria-based for founder of the Wayfond Chechen rights organization, have also been kidnapped in Russia.
It appears to be a mass scale terror attack on Kadyrov critics.
Putin lets this terrorist thug do his thing, clearly both afraid to anger him and content to be seen as the lesser tyrant.
Russia is a lawless, rogue state, anyone who says otherwise is either extremely dumb or extremely corrupt.




Trenutno je v teku tudi vsakoletna putinova tiskovna konferenca. Morda še kaj napišem, sicer je tole v kombinaciji z včerajšnjim videom res ekstra.
Imajo biološke vzorce (@52:20), ki so jih testirali in ugotovili močno znižano holinesterazo (@8:10). @8:40 je celo video glavnega zdravnika v Omsku s tem dokumentom.



https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Putin, in response to BBC question about @navalny's poisoning: "No one wants to give us any proof he was poisoned. We keep asking - give us at least a pretext to start a criminal investigation! But nothing in response.. Let's close this chapter..."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Stalnica režimskih medijev - navajanje anonimnih zahodnih komentarjev, ki zagovarjajo/hvalijo Rusijo.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

yansek ::

Zdijo se mi izredno zanimiva razmišljanja, predavanja na temo namer Putinove Rusije. Veliko predavanj je na Youtubu
Andrey Nikolayevich Illarionov
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_...

Angana_sema ::

Ne štekam to fiksacijo s Putinom.

On je samo vidni artefakt vodstva države. Ko bo odšel, bo njegov naslednik nov "Putin", ki bo samo uradno vlekel poteze njihovega think-tanka, tako kot v vsaki državi - njihovi politiki bo dal obraz.

Kje je vzrok za to ? Manjko "demokracije" ? Tip je daleč bolj priljubljen kot _katerikoli_ USA predsednik.

Poleg tega, o kateri demokraciji govorimo ?
O tej zahodni tipa "vsiljena izbira Orange man/Billary/SHitler ?

Zakaj je to sploh tema ob vseh zahodnih sr*njih, ki plavajo ven vsak dan ?
Recimo:
-Assange
-Snowden
-Razvoj ozko usmerjenih bio orožij s strani "globalnih humanitarcev" in delo na COVIDU in cepivu tko mal za hobi in popoldnevni zaslužek.
-Donzinger
-McAfee
-Princ Andrew
-Ghislaine Maxwell in maljon folka v njeni "knjižici"
-Afere s poskusom odvzema DNK znanih državnikov - očitno za aplikacijo usmerjenih bionapadov. Slaven je primer Marka Cubana, ki je pred leti hotel Putina nategniti s "družinskim prstanom", a zadnje dni so izplavali mnogi drugi.
- Kaj je z ugrabitvami, kot je nedavna ugrabitev venezuelanskega odposlanca ?
- Dohtar v Nemčiji posta klip o COVID-u in vaxxu kot simuliranem crapu in čez dva dni je mrtev. "Samomor".
Nemška odvetnica objavi javne pomisleke in protiargumente o COVID-u in konča naslednji dan v umobolnici, potem pa izgine. Nemški minister se upra politiki COVID-a in konča pod tračnicami nekaj dni zatem."Samomor".
- Prepovedi gibanja po vsej EU in masovne demonstracije, brez ENE objave v MSM
-Kupi umorov in čudnih smrti brez ene odmevne objave. Zadrogiran anonimen tip pade z okna nekje v Moskvi in takoj je kriv Putin. Ruski diplomat se v Berlinu zgrudi mrtev pred ambasado in folk je tiho ali pa serje po Rusih, ki Nemcem ne zaupajo obdukcije.
-Dobivamo neverjetno agresivno zakonodajo tipa The Secrets Act in nov sistem šaržiranja ljudi kot piščancev Personal Score Point System of The Global Surveillance State ?, a folk še vedno se*je o Putinu in Kitajski.

BTW, kako to, da jim gre tako dobro. če so praktično "nedemokratični gulag" ?
V primerjavi z nami so videti fenomenalno.

Razen če je "nedemokratični" mišljen kot izven dosega Rotschildovih lutk...

Kdo bolje upravlja z resursi, Rusi ali EU ?
Poglejmo samo recimo ceno plina.

BTW, ravno danes so Rusi sklenili deal s Kitajci za NOV plinovod za količine in vire, ki bi sicer šle v EU.
Podobne deale imajo tudi z Indijo.
Po normalnih, dogovorjenih, tržnih cenah, brez rožljanja z orožjem, upadi Nacijev, politične drame itd itd.

BTW2: NATO Abramba demokracije v Ukrajini

But, please, keep dronning about Putin.

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Unchancy ::

Enemu Putinovemu kritiku se je "pripetila nesreča" - Nag je padel iz petega nadstropja

https://siol.net/novice/svet/umrl-putin...
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yansek ::

Še enkrat bom omenil ekonomista Illarionova, ker mislim, da se mu splača prisluhniti, glede na to, da je bil od aprila 2000 do decembra 2005 Putinov svetovalec za gospodarsko politiko.
Recimo:
Andrei Illarionov - "The new varieties of hybrid war", July 28th, 2014, Vilnius, Lithuania
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Evj5aWErs...

fikus_ ::

Unchancy je izjavil:

Enemu Putinovemu kritiku se je "pripetila nesreča" - Nag je padel iz petega nadstropja

https://siol.net/novice/svet/umrl-putin...


Malo več bi lahko citiral, ne samo populističen naslov!

"V Moskvi je v ponedeljek umrl 35-letni Jegor Prosvirnin. Popolnoma gol naj bi padel skozi okno v petem nadstropju večstanovanjske zgradbe. Prosvirnin je bil eden od osrednjih likov ruskega skrajnega nacionalističnega gibanja, med drugim je podpiral okupacijo Ukrajine in baltskih držav, hkrati pa je bil oster kritik ruskega predsednika Vladimirja Putina. "



Zgleda, da ni bil ravno biser človeštva, ampak takšne smrti si zaslužil, vsaj brez poštenega sojenja ne.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

Pac-Man ::

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Reporting Deputy PM Marat Khusnullin’s $43-million real estate in Tatarstan is now illegal in Russia — not because the information is inaccurate but because a banned media outlet broke the story.


gtranslate:
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5153646
The publishing house "Kommersant", at the request of Roskomnadzor, deleted the news published on the regional page "Volga-Ural" on March 4, 2020, "The family of Marat Khusnullin found assets worth 3.2 billion rubles."

The department explained the demand for "immediate removal" of the news by the presence in it of "information materials of a foreign or international non-governmental organization whose activities were recognized as undesirable on the territory of the Russian Federation." At the same time, Roskomnadzor referred to the requirement of the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation dated August 3, 2021 No. 27-31-2020 / Id8999-21 "on taking measures to restrict access to information resources containing information disseminated in violation of the law."

The department does not specify the name of this organization. Probably, we are talking about Open Media, which Roskomnadzor considers the information resource of the Open Russia Civic Movement, recognized in 2017 as an undesirable organization, as well as the publication Transparency International, included by the Ministry of Justice in the list of foreign agents.

Kommersant will ask Roskomnadzor and the Prosecutor General's Office for clarification.

Marat Khusnullin in 2001 - 2010 was the Minister of Construction, Architecture and Housing and Communal Services of Tatarstan.




¯\_(ツ)_/¯


originalni članek:
https://openmedia.io/investigation/lend...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Malenkost off - tako kriptobroji kot tankiji so si želeli putinovega posredovanja v Kazahstanu. Želja se jim je izpolnila.

https://twitter.com/4kshatra/status/147...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Malenkost off - tako kriptobroji kot tankiji so si želeli putinovega posredovanja v Kazahstanu. Želja se jim je izpolnila.

https://twitter.com/4kshatra/status/147...

Sej je ok. Zgodba z ukrajino je preveč vroča, za tveganje razpada NATA.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Zakaj so nekateri zahodnjaki na putinovi šitlisti? McFaul, marec 2000:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/W...

Not since the August 1991 coup attempt has the future of Russian democracy been more uncertain than it is today. Ironically, at a time when Russian society has embraced individual liberties, a free press and competitive elections, the new leader of the Russian state, Acting President Vladimir Putin, has demonstrated real ambivalence toward democracy.

...

In the realm of electoral politics, the Russian state looked more robust than ever during the December 1999 parliamentary campaign, wielding its power in ways that exacted considerable damage to democratic institutions. Putin and his allies created a party, Unity, out of thin air in October, which then won nearly a quarter of the vote in December. State television incessantly promoted the new party and destroyed its opponents with a barrage of negative advertising never before seen in Russian politics.

...

And more anti-democratic measures may be in the works after the March presidential election. Putin advisers speak openly about eliminating proportional representation from the Duma electoral law, a revision that would practically eliminate all pro-democratic political parties in Russia. Putin and his aides also have expressed support for the highly anti-democratic idea of appointing rather than electing governors. Putin has even hinted that he would like to extend the term of the Russian president to seven years, instead of four.

Individually, none of these innovations would spell the end of democracy. In combination, however, they could recreate a system dominated by a single "party of power," i.e., the Kremlin.

...

Because Putin wants cooperation with the West, the Clinton administration now has an opportunity to help the cause of Russian democracy. Rather than shower Putin with faint praise about his businesslike demeanor as a way to secure the Russian president's support for arms control treaties, Clinton and his foreign policy team need to stress that the preservation of democracy in Russia is a precondition for cooperation. In parallel to a more constructive engagement of Putin regarding issues of human rights, the United States also needs to give greater support to Russian societal forces still fighting to preserve Russian democracy.

This means empowering human rights activists through high-level meetings with U.S. officials. It also means increasing, not decreasing as currently planned, assistance programs designed to strengthen the independent media, trade unions, political parties, civil society and the rule of law.

...

In Russia, democracy is not yet lost. Clinton still has the opportunity to help promote its consolidation. If, however, Russian democracy fails, no one will remember who ratified the Start II treaty.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Smrekar1 ::

Mr.B je izjavil:

Vladimir Pozner: How the United States Created Vladimir Putin


Kot vidim dobri stari IF (bad thing exists) THEN (blame USA) še vedno miga.

Za razliko od Židov se vsaj znajo braniti.

Unchancy ::

Se pravi, če so ZDA "ustvarile" Putina, potem "Putin bad"? Napredek.
Škoda časa za ta režimski forum.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.

Mr.B ::

Unchancy je izjavil:

Se pravi, če so ZDA "ustvarile" Putina, potem "Putin bad"? Napredek.

Sej bi ti dal kakšno akademsko čtivo, ampak je bolje da se neizobrženo ohranja pri click bait naslovih. Ker le uspeš kot nekateri na forumo narediti povzetek slabe 2 urnega yale predstavitve, ej je tud tvoj komentar vreden profiliranja.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Unchancy ::

Mr.B je izjavil:

Unchancy je izjavil:

Se pravi, če so ZDA "ustvarile" Putina, potem "Putin bad"? Napredek.

Sej bi ti dal kakšno akademsko čtivo, ampak je bolje da se neizobrženo ohranja pri click bait naslovih. Ker le uspeš kot nekateri na forumo narediti povzetek slabe 2 urnega yale predstavitve, ej je tud tvoj komentar vreden profiliranja.

Ne se jezit, če te je enostavno popredalčkat in trolat. Nisem jaz kriv, če si enostaven.
Škoda časa za ta režimski forum.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.

Mr.B ::

Unchancy je izjavil:

Mr.B je izjavil:

Unchancy je izjavil:

Se pravi, če so ZDA "ustvarile" Putina, potem "Putin bad"? Napredek.

Sej bi ti dal kakšno akademsko čtivo, ampak je bolje da se neizobrženo ohranja pri click bait naslovih. Ker le uspeš kot nekateri na forumo narediti povzetek slabe 2 urnega yale predstavitve, ej je tud tvoj komentar vreden profiliranja.

Ne se jezit, če te je enostavno popredalčkat in trolat. Nisem jaz kriv, če si enostaven.

Sej je vredo, boš že našel kak zanimiv twit, ali pa napisal djestvo socialnega medija, ki pred pol leta ni obstajal.
Drugače pa imaš serijo predavanj znane univerze na temo Populisma, pa as Common Sense of troll party.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Na spletu se je znašlo 479 fotk notranjosti (ne)slavnega putinovega dvorca. Striptiz štanga je resnična, lahko se primerja tudi realnost z navalnijevim CGI.

https://twitter.com/Timmi_Allen/status/...

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

Čečenija, Rusija. Preiskovalni komite, njihova verzija FBI, se dela, da nič ne vidi in nič ne sliši.

Sodnikov sin je odvetnik pri NGO proti mučenju, ki se je zameril Kadirovu. Sicer je pravočasno pobegnil iz Čečenije, ampak je vseeno že par tednov pogrešan, zraven je izginilo še okrog 30 kosov nič krive žlahte. Ampak upokojenega zveznega sodnika vseeno ne upajo pipnit.

https://twitter.com/mbk_center/status/1...
It's 21 century in 🇷🇺
Kadyrov'men broke into the flat of a retired judge Saydi Yangulbaev in Nizhny Novgorod, kidnapped his wife Zarema Musaeva, she suffers from severe diabetes. The law enforcers didn't even arrive when summoned. It's unknown whether she's alive now... shocking



Tole na zaslonski sliki je efektivno fatva.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
The chief of Chechnya, appointed by Putin, literally threatens to murder the family of a human rights activist. (Yesterday Chechen balaklava-wearing thugs tried to arrest his father, a Federal judge, but once they realized they can't arrest a judge, they kidnapped his wife)
Any semblance not only of rule of law, but of basic existential certainty has long evaporated in Russia. Medievally minded, corrupt thug Kadyrov is under sanctions, but the person who appoints him and gives him medals is not. What gives, "free world"?




28.12.2021:
Russian Dissident Snatched Hours After Daily Beast Interview About His Entire Family Being Kidnapped

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Abubakar Yangulbaev, a lawyer with the Committee for the Prevention of Torture, told The Daily Beast that he had been “worried sick” by Christmas Eve as he struggled to get in touch with more than 30 members of his own family.

“I constantly checked Telegram channels, saw terrible news that all Yanbungalayevs had been abducted, as well as many Musayevs from my mother’s side of the family,” he said.

By Christmas Day, the scale of the horror had been confirmed. “My dear aunts, my uncles, my cousins disappeared; I learned from Telegram channels, that the abductors took cellphones from them, so I published a post with a photograph of my family members on Saturday and officially appealed to the Investigative Committee,” Yangulbaev, 29, told The Daily Beast in an interview on Monday.

The following morning, he was taken too.

Oleg Khabibrakhmanov, a public investigator of human rights violations at the committee where Yangulbaev works, told The Daily Beast on Tuesday: “This morning officials from the Chechen Center to Prevent Extremism or simply political police came to search Abubakar Yangulbaev’s home in the city of Kislovodsk; they detained Yangulbaev and took him to a police station in Pyatigorsk. So far our lawyer, who is right outside the door of the police station, has not been allowed to see his client. Our biggest fear is that they will move Yangulbaev to Chechnya, where we constantly see police violating authority.”

...

Yangulbaev said he left Chechnya after being tortured with electric shocks along with his younger brother. He has his own personal memories of what “abduction” means.

“I was abducted by six men in civilian clothes along with my younger brother, a student of the Chechen State University, and my father, a judge of the Supreme court, in 2015,” he said. “They wanted me to say that my father was corrupt and my brother was with ISIS; they let me and my father go after 10 hours but kept my brother for several weeks in a police basement.”




Tako Nižni Novogorod kot Kislovodsk nista v Čečeniji. Ne vem kaj tam počne čečenska policija in zakaj tega nihče noče videt.

Nizhny Novgorod @ Wikipedia

Kislovodsk @ Wikipedia
Stavropol Krai @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

Parlamentarna skupščina Sveta Evrope je potrdila poročilo o navalnijevi zastrupitvi, ki Rusiji nalaga, da odpre "neodvisno in efektivno" preiskavo.
Za so glasovali vsi prisotni, tudi nek Jeremy Corbyn, proti so bili samo Rusi (vključno z Marijo Butino) in bosanska predstavnica, Srbi in Črnogorci so se vzdržali. Od naših ni bilo nikogar na spregled.

https://pace.coe.int/en/votes/38762
https://pace.coe.int/en/aplist/countrie...

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...

Meanwhile, at the Parliament of the Council of Europe (PACE) a report by Jacques Maire (@JMaireofficiel) into the poisoning of @Navalny was published yesterday, and the action recommended by the report voted on by PACE
https://pace.coe.int/en/news/8592/pace-...
PACE voted to call on Russia to launch an "independent and effective" investigation into the poisoning of Navalny. Given the entire Russian delegation voted against the resolution, it seems unlikely they'll accept the recommendation
The report was also published on the PACE website, which includes details of the investigation and various experts who discussed details of the poisoning. Bellingcat's work was also heavily referenced in the investigation, which I'm sure Russia didn't like
https://pace.coe.int/en/files/29613/html
My favourite section is where the questions raised by the Russian MFA about the Navalny poisoning are answered by Professor Michael Eddleston, Personal Chair of Clinical Toxicology at the University of Edinburgh.
Very good report, I give it 5 Sequential Passport Numbers out of 5.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

spegli ::

Star židovski: Bolje da Rusija plin zapre, kot da ga Nemčija odpre.

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tole na zaslonski sliki je efektivno fatva.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
The chief of Chechnya [Kadyrov], appointed by Putin, literally threatens to murder the family of a human rights activist. (Yesterday Chechen balaklava-wearing thugs tried to arrest his father, a Federal judge, but once they realized they can't arrest a judge, they kidnapped his wife)


Če mu je kdo od višje postavljenih ukazal, naj preneha, tega vsekakor ne upošteva.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
The chieftain of Russia's republic is literally promising to hunt and kill a family of human rights activists and bloggers. The world is silent.
US says it can "turn off electrical grids" or otherwise punish dictators if it wants to. When would there be a more appropriate moment?



Pridružil se mu je še poslanec v Dumi. Tekst gtranslate, video v Čečenščini z Ruskimi podnapisi

https://twitter.com/SotaVision/status/1...
State Duma Deputy from Chechnya Adam Delimkhanov promised to relentlessly pursue members of the Yangulbaev family: "Until we cut off your heads and kill you."
Delimkhanov extended the promise of blood feud to those who translate the threats of Kadyrov's followers into Russian.



Zanimivo, kako vedo da je tole narobe in bi se skrivali za svojim jezikom, kot neki baddie Navajo code talkerji, ampak se (zaenkrat) vseeno nič ne zgodi.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tole na zaslonski sliki je efektivno fatva.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
The chief of Chechnya [Kadyrov], appointed by Putin, literally threatens to murder the family of a human rights activist. (Yesterday Chechen balaklava-wearing thugs tried to arrest his father, a Federal judge, but once they realized they can't arrest a judge, they kidnapped his wife)


Če mu je kdo od višje postavljenih ukazal, naj preneha, tega vsekakor ne upošteva.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
The chieftain of Russia's republic is literally promising to hunt and kill a family of human rights activists and bloggers. The world is silent.
US says it can "turn off electrical grids" or otherwise punish dictators if it wants to. When would there be a more appropriate moment?



Pridružil se mu je še poslanec v Dumi. Tekst gtranslate, video v Čečenščini z Ruskimi podnapisi

https://twitter.com/SotaVision/status/1...
State Duma Deputy from Chechnya Adam Delimkhanov promised to relentlessly pursue members of the Yangulbaev family: "Until we cut off your heads and kill you."
Delimkhanov extended the promise of blood feud to those who translate the threats of Kadyrov's followers into Russian.



Zanimivo, kako vedo da je tole narobe in bi se skrivali za svojim jezikom, kot neki baddie Navajo code talkerji, ampak se (zaenkrat) vseeno nič ne zgodi.

Pa sej pravimo da so amaterji... Morša tako kot Američani, imeti 60k neuradno privatno vojsko, tam se nihče ne sekira, če v napačnem ovinku zletiš s ceste na napačno stran , kot nakazuje fizika.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

donvitoc ::

Putina sovražijo ker dela v dobro Rusom. Danes je nacionalizen prepovedan, poleg tega pa ni niti letal z Lolito express.

Pac-Man ::

donvitoc je izjavil:

poleg tega pa ni niti letal z Lolito express.


Si prepričan? Če v gozdu pade drevo in tega nihče ne sliši, je drevo res padlo?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the...
When the Moskovsky Korrespondent newspaper dared to report in April 2008 that Putin was planning to marry his alleged then-mistress, Olympic gold medal winning gymnast Alina Kabayeva, the paper was immediately shut down and its editor fired. 'I have a private life in which I do not permit interference. It must be respected,' Putin told a hall full of obsequious reporters at his annual press conference, denouncing 'those who with their snotty noses and erotic fantasies prowl into others' lives.'


Litvinenko claimed Putin was the 'Kremlin pedophile' in blog post months before his death after Rus




cue Twilight Zone theme

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

donvitoc ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

donvitoc je izjavil:

poleg tega pa ni niti letal z Lolito express.


Si prepričan? Če v gozdu pade drevo in tega nihče ne sliši, je drevo res padlo?


Tako kot Osama ki je živel v zlati jami, tako kot je Drumf uriniral po Obamovi postelji, tako kot je Asad zaplinil svoje, kot je Kim zmlel svojega strica v klobase in s tem nahranil pse (ene 7x če se ne mortim), kot Gadafi ki je metal dojenčke iz inkubatorjev, kot so Smoleta napadli drumpfovci... a bi se to sploh zgodilo če ne bi cnn poročal?

Saj sem ti že povedal pravilo, vse kar pacman objavi je 180 stopinj od resnice.

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:



Ni še konec. Gredo vsi za enega, eden za vse.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Under the portrait of Vladimir Putin, the director of Russia's regional SOBR spetznaz (part of Rosguard, reporting directly to Putin), swears to "cut off the genitals" of the Yangulbaev family members.
This threat is posted on @instagram and Facebook, @Meta or whatever it is called today couldn't care less that it's platforming and enabling terrorists.


Video, spet Čečenščina, ampak spremni tekst je Ruski, torej lahko naredimo gtranslate:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZcfYdUqncf/
Assalamu alaikum, dear friends! The family of scum Yangulbaev encroached on the most sacred of the Chechen people - on the religion of Islam!
Without any doubt, the team of our First President of the Chechen Republic, Hero of Russia AKHMAT-KHADZHI KADYROV (Dala gasot kobaldoil), and this is the entire Chechen people, will call these bastards to account. AHMAT-POWER!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:



Ni še konec. Gredo vsi za enega, eden za vse.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/statu...
Under the portrait of Vladimir Putin, the director of Russia's regional SOBR spetznaz (part of Rosguard, reporting directly to Putin), swears to "cut off the genitals" of the Yangulbaev family members.
This threat is posted on @instagram and Facebook, @Meta or whatever it is called today couldn't care less that it's platforming and enabling terrorists.


Video, spet Čečenščina, ampak spremni tekst je Ruski, torej lahko naredimo gtranslate:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZcfYdUqncf/
Assalamu alaikum, dear friends! The family of scum Yangulbaev encroached on the most sacred of the Chechen people - on the religion of Islam!
Without any doubt, the team of our First President of the Chechen Republic, Hero of Russia AKHMAT-KHADZHI KADYROV (Dala gasot kobaldoil), and this is the entire Chechen people, will call these bastards to account. AHMAT-POWER!


Sej pravim, pač plačance s strani ameriški tričrkovnih agencij, nikoli ne povezujejo s predsednikom države teh tričrkovnih agencij, Pač stvar precepcije in kdo poroča.

Sicer pri tebi je očitno da zadnjih nekaj let, razen, že v naprej sumplivih twixi, itd medijev, no sej veš.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

donvitoc ::

Mr.B je izjavil:


Sej pravim, pač plačance s strani ameriški tričrkovnih agencij, nikoli ne povezujejo s predsednikom države teh tričrkovnih agencij, Pač stvar precepcije in kdo poroča.

Sicer pri tebi je očitno da zadnjih nekaj let, razen, že v naprej sumplivih twixi, itd medijev, no sej veš.


Tko kot ko 2014 Ukrajinski snajperji ki jih je Yanukovych poslal nad protestnike. Sicer so mediji takrat malo pozabili poročati da so streljali tudi nad policiste, ampak to je majhna cena, ker važno je kaj je prav in ne kaj je res.
Je imel zahod res srečo da je Yanukovych odletel, ker ni imel slabih odnosov z rusi in ni hotel biti hlapec EU birokratov .Kar danes vemo da je narobe.

Mr.B ::

donvitoc je izjavil:

Mr.B je izjavil:


Sej pravim, pač plačance s strani ameriški tričrkovnih agencij, nikoli ne povezujejo s predsednikom države teh tričrkovnih agencij, Pač stvar precepcije in kdo poroča.

Sicer pri tebi je očitno da zadnjih nekaj let, razen, že v naprej sumplivih twixi, itd medijev, no sej veš.


Tko kot ko 2014 Ukrajinski snajperji ki jih je Yanukovych poslal nad protestnike. Sicer so mediji takrat malo pozabili poročati da so streljali tudi nad policiste, ampak to je majhna cena, ker važno je kaj je prav in ne kaj je res.
Je imel zahod res srečo da je Yanukovych odletel, ker ni imel slabih odnosov z rusi in ni hotel biti hlapec EU birokratov .Kar danes vemo da je narobe.

Počakmoi še kak teden, so rekli da bodo v prvi polovici zasedli ukrajino...:))
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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