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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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T440 ::
Prepričan sem, da tudi potem ko bodo Ukrajinci porušili krimski most, boste rusofili dokazovali, da je na sliki le brv čez reko Donavo v romunski vasici Prihnodijevo.
mackilla ::
Kličko verjetno kaže te ostanke
Dve ušesi za obešanje.
Smo že včeraj obdelali, da ni:
https://slo-tech.com/forum/t767997/p791...
To ni ista bomba kot včeraj BETAB-500, ta je FAB-500.
Sicer pa zanimivo, kako hitro ste ovrgli tezo da je Kličkova bomba BETAB-500, nikakor pa nočete verjeti, da to ni Kinžal. Normalni ljudje bi utihnili, redki bi prizali napako, samo "slava Ukrajini" verniki pa si še naprej kopljete jamo, pa še z analogijami z bananami se smešite. Vmes se pa že cel internet smeji Kličkotu, še NOEL je brisal svoje twite
A ti boš govoril,da bi normalni ljudje priznali napako. O Jezus uhuhhhhuhuhuu. Ob vseh lažeh,ki si jih prilepili v zadnjem leti bi moral biti tiho kot rit
Rambutan ::
Na SG pravijo, da se kar dogaja okoli Bakhmuta, ni pa to še glavna ofenziva.
What is known about the Ukrainian offensive on the Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) front at this time.
The Ukrainian forces are attacking in multiple directions, on the flanks of the Wagner PMC grouping in Artyomovsk, as follows (north to south):
— Near Soledar, the enemy forces attacked using several units, reinforced with armoured groups of 2-3 tanks, breaking through the first line of defence. The enemy is attempting to entrench itself on the new positions.
— On the northwest edge of Artyomovsk, the enemy is reported to have broken through the first line of defence at Berkhovka and Yagodnoye.
— To the south of Artyomovsk, the enemy is having localized success in an attack near Kleshcheevka.
— In the Gorlovka sector, the enemy is mounting an attack toward Mayorsk, a transitway station on the northwestern edge of Gorlovka.
The Ukrainian army has not been able to solidify its control of any of the contested areas yet, but the situation is difficult, and the battles continue at this time.
This is most likely the start of whatever the fabled “Ukrainian offensive” will turn out to be. It is unlikely to be the main thrust of the campaign.
The goal of this initial phase of the Ukrainian offensive is still to find the weak spots in the Russian armour. The main event will not begin in earnest until we see:
— a real and sustained artillery barrage against the Russian positions across the entire (or most) of the frontline;
— long-range missile and MLRS strikes at the rear of the Russian groupings, at depots, and command and communications infrastructure;
— the deployment in significant numbers of the stored-up drone arsenal; and,
— massive information warfare fud about Russian troops allegedly leaving positions.
This is still the first stage. Nothing has happened so far that gives cause for immediate concern. Even minor retreats and withdrawals would mean very little. Any such maneuvers will generally have been prepared in advance to lure the Ukrainian forces into artillery fire bags.
For those inclined to panic, I would recommend taking a break from media for a couple of days, then return to watch history happen. Those of hardier constitution are welcome to follow our reports.
What is known about the Ukrainian offensive on the Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) front at this time.
The Ukrainian forces are attacking in multiple directions, on the flanks of the Wagner PMC grouping in Artyomovsk, as follows (north to south):
— Near Soledar, the enemy forces attacked using several units, reinforced with armoured groups of 2-3 tanks, breaking through the first line of defence. The enemy is attempting to entrench itself on the new positions.
— On the northwest edge of Artyomovsk, the enemy is reported to have broken through the first line of defence at Berkhovka and Yagodnoye.
— To the south of Artyomovsk, the enemy is having localized success in an attack near Kleshcheevka.
— In the Gorlovka sector, the enemy is mounting an attack toward Mayorsk, a transitway station on the northwestern edge of Gorlovka.
The Ukrainian army has not been able to solidify its control of any of the contested areas yet, but the situation is difficult, and the battles continue at this time.
This is most likely the start of whatever the fabled “Ukrainian offensive” will turn out to be. It is unlikely to be the main thrust of the campaign.
The goal of this initial phase of the Ukrainian offensive is still to find the weak spots in the Russian armour. The main event will not begin in earnest until we see:
— a real and sustained artillery barrage against the Russian positions across the entire (or most) of the frontline;
— long-range missile and MLRS strikes at the rear of the Russian groupings, at depots, and command and communications infrastructure;
— the deployment in significant numbers of the stored-up drone arsenal; and,
— massive information warfare fud about Russian troops allegedly leaving positions.
This is still the first stage. Nothing has happened so far that gives cause for immediate concern. Even minor retreats and withdrawals would mean very little. Any such maneuvers will generally have been prepared in advance to lure the Ukrainian forces into artillery fire bags.
For those inclined to panic, I would recommend taking a break from media for a couple of days, then return to watch history happen. Those of hardier constitution are welcome to follow our reports.
blay44 ::
Ta skica prikazuje staro rusko Oko.
Sloviti SS23 oziroma nadaljne izvedenke s pogonom na trda goriva.
Lesoto ::
To ni ista bomba kot včeraj BETAB-500, ta je FAB-500.
Sicer pa zanimivo, kako hitro ste ovrgli tezo da je Kličkova bomba BETAB-500, nikakor pa nočete verjeti, da to ni Kinžal. Normalni ljudje bi utihnili, redki bi prizali napako, samo "slava Ukrajini" verniki pa si še naprej kopljete jamo, pa še z analogijami z bananami se smešite. Vmes se pa že cel internet smeji Kličkotu, še NOEL je brisal svoje twite
Kaj točno to ni? To je tvoj post od včeraj. Mal se zberi.
še NOEL je brisal svoje twite
A je še kdo brisal twite?
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Pac-Man ::
O Storm Shadow:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/u...
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Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine’s defense minister, today provided some ideas of possible targets for the Storm Shadow: “Our partners know very well why we need them: to be able to reduce the enemy’s offensive potential by destroying their ammunition depots, command and control centers, and logistics chains on the temporarily occupied Ukrainian territory.”
The missile has a BROACH tandem warhead designed to penetrate hardened targets, including bunkers. The warhead uses a precursor charge to punch through hardened structures followed by the main change that can be fuzed for penetration mode when required, meaning it detonates after breaching the target. The missile guidance system combines an inertial navigation system, GPS, and terrain referencing.
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The Ukrainian Air Force’s MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter jets and Su-25 Frogfoot attack jets are likely unable to carry the Storm Shadow. Each missile weighs around almost 2,900 pounds. The heaviest weapons routinely carried by the MiG-29 and Su-25 are only around 1,100 pounds each. The heaviest-lifting stores pylons on the Frogfoot can only accommodate weapons of 1,100 pounds, and heavier weapons are rarely ever seen on early-model MiG-29s.
This would seem to suggest that the Su-27 Flanker fighter jet and/or the Su-24 Fencer strike aircraft would be the likely candidates as Storm Shadow shooters. These larger aircraft have much greater payload capacities and the Su-24, in particular, can routinely carry weapons of over 3,300 pounds each.
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It remains to be seen whether the Storm Shadow will be deployed in support of the long-awaited Ukrainian spring offensive, but it’s noteworthy that the delivery of the weapon was announced at this point. One reason could be that the United Kingdom wanted to make the transfer of the missiles overt, meaning that their use would not come as a surprise should Ukraine employ them against Russian targets in the near future.
On the other hand, announcing the possible readiness of Ukraine to deploy Storm Shadows also presents an additional headache for Russian commanders, as they now have to assume that a whole new set of possible targets are now available to Ukraine. This would clearly complicate the response to a large-scale counteroffensive, especially in terms of major supply dumps as well as critical infrastructure and chokepoints.
For Ukraine, the Storm Shadow theoretically opens up the possibility to strike targets deep within Crimea, including Sevastopol, with its extensive military infrastructure. However, a mission of this kind would involve running the gauntlet of the extensive Russian ground-based air defense umbrella that spills deeply into Ukrainian-controlled areas. Here, again, the importance of the counteroffensive becomes clear, since this could help push back those air defenses and make standoff attacks on these further-flung all-important targets a more realistic prospect.
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There is also the possibility of Ukraine launching standoff Storm Shadow attacks from the Black Sea, west of Crimea. This would be a high-risk operation, as well, but one that may be worth that risk considering the weapons being employed and the targets they can service. Russia watches this area very closely and has ships and aircraft that patrol it persistently. The ocean doesn't give the same level of cover that the land does for Storm Shadow's low-altitude infiltration abilities, either, making it more vulnerable to detection and engagement. Still, this may be an attractive option prior to any rolling back of Russian air defense assets via a counteroffensive. It will be interesting to see how Russia's air defense posture changes in Crimea now that Storm Shadow is in play.
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As such, if Ukraine demonstrates the value of the Storm Shadow, and the precedent for supplying advanced long-range weapons is already set by it, more of the weapons from other operators, such as Italy, or even the very similar SCALP missile, as used by the French Armed Forces, could follow. This could also open the floodgates to other donations by other countries, especially those by the U.S., which sits on a massive stockpile of advanced standoff weapons.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/u...
...
Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine’s defense minister, today provided some ideas of possible targets for the Storm Shadow: “Our partners know very well why we need them: to be able to reduce the enemy’s offensive potential by destroying their ammunition depots, command and control centers, and logistics chains on the temporarily occupied Ukrainian territory.”
The missile has a BROACH tandem warhead designed to penetrate hardened targets, including bunkers. The warhead uses a precursor charge to punch through hardened structures followed by the main change that can be fuzed for penetration mode when required, meaning it detonates after breaching the target. The missile guidance system combines an inertial navigation system, GPS, and terrain referencing.
...
The Ukrainian Air Force’s MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter jets and Su-25 Frogfoot attack jets are likely unable to carry the Storm Shadow. Each missile weighs around almost 2,900 pounds. The heaviest weapons routinely carried by the MiG-29 and Su-25 are only around 1,100 pounds each. The heaviest-lifting stores pylons on the Frogfoot can only accommodate weapons of 1,100 pounds, and heavier weapons are rarely ever seen on early-model MiG-29s.
This would seem to suggest that the Su-27 Flanker fighter jet and/or the Su-24 Fencer strike aircraft would be the likely candidates as Storm Shadow shooters. These larger aircraft have much greater payload capacities and the Su-24, in particular, can routinely carry weapons of over 3,300 pounds each.
...
It remains to be seen whether the Storm Shadow will be deployed in support of the long-awaited Ukrainian spring offensive, but it’s noteworthy that the delivery of the weapon was announced at this point. One reason could be that the United Kingdom wanted to make the transfer of the missiles overt, meaning that their use would not come as a surprise should Ukraine employ them against Russian targets in the near future.
On the other hand, announcing the possible readiness of Ukraine to deploy Storm Shadows also presents an additional headache for Russian commanders, as they now have to assume that a whole new set of possible targets are now available to Ukraine. This would clearly complicate the response to a large-scale counteroffensive, especially in terms of major supply dumps as well as critical infrastructure and chokepoints.
For Ukraine, the Storm Shadow theoretically opens up the possibility to strike targets deep within Crimea, including Sevastopol, with its extensive military infrastructure. However, a mission of this kind would involve running the gauntlet of the extensive Russian ground-based air defense umbrella that spills deeply into Ukrainian-controlled areas. Here, again, the importance of the counteroffensive becomes clear, since this could help push back those air defenses and make standoff attacks on these further-flung all-important targets a more realistic prospect.
...
There is also the possibility of Ukraine launching standoff Storm Shadow attacks from the Black Sea, west of Crimea. This would be a high-risk operation, as well, but one that may be worth that risk considering the weapons being employed and the targets they can service. Russia watches this area very closely and has ships and aircraft that patrol it persistently. The ocean doesn't give the same level of cover that the land does for Storm Shadow's low-altitude infiltration abilities, either, making it more vulnerable to detection and engagement. Still, this may be an attractive option prior to any rolling back of Russian air defense assets via a counteroffensive. It will be interesting to see how Russia's air defense posture changes in Crimea now that Storm Shadow is in play.
...
As such, if Ukraine demonstrates the value of the Storm Shadow, and the precedent for supplying advanced long-range weapons is already set by it, more of the weapons from other operators, such as Italy, or even the very similar SCALP missile, as used by the French Armed Forces, could follow. This could also open the floodgates to other donations by other countries, especially those by the U.S., which sits on a massive stockpile of advanced standoff weapons.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Lesoto ::
ker bljak, prvo se ga napit, pol pa postrelat
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1...
Another example of infighting between Russian troops. What morale doing?
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1...
Another example of infighting between Russian troops. What morale doing?
mackilla ::
ker bljak, prvo se ga napit, pol pa postrelat
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1...
Another example of infighting between Russian troops. What morale doing?
Če bi jim z droni odmetavali alkohol bi se večina pobila med sabo.
k4vz0024 ::
Kako končati vojno v Ukrajini? Rusom dobaviti neskončno vodke. Bodo hitro spoznali, da je lepše živeti
Pac-Man ::
Kaj je zdaj to?
https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/...
🇷🇺 military blogger are max. confused
Sasha Kots:
"Kyiv's counteroffensive has begun. Tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine go along the Kharkov bypass towards the border with Russia... Belgorod, Artemovsk (Bakhmut) or Swatove ?"
Medtem MMC:
Preboj Rusije v Bahmutu?
Ruske sile pa so sporočile, da so dosegle preboj v Bahmutu na vzhodu Ukrajine, kjer že mesece potekajo intenzivni spopadi. "V regiji Doneck napadalne divizije nadaljujejo napade na zahodni del mesta Bahmut. Pri tem pa jih podpirajo zračnodesantne enote," je povedal tiskovni predstavnik ruskega obrambnega ministrstva Igor Konašenkov.
Preboj ruskih sil se je v Bahmutu zgodil le nekaj dni po tem, ko se je Jevgenij Prigožin, vodja ruske najemniške skupine Wagner, katere pripadniki se že dolgo bojujejo v tem mestu in njegovi okolici, pritožil, da so ruske enote zapustile svoje položaje v bližini mesta.
Seveda spet Konašenkov
Igor Konashenkov @ Wikipedia
During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Konashenkov falsely claimed that U.S. forces had planned to infect birds in Ukraine with a spreadable form of the H5N1 flu strain "with a mortality rate of 50 percent" as well as Newcastle disease.[3] He was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant General.
https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/...
🇷🇺 military blogger are max. confused
Sasha Kots:
"Kyiv's counteroffensive has begun. Tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine go along the Kharkov bypass towards the border with Russia... Belgorod, Artemovsk (Bakhmut) or Swatove ?"
Medtem MMC:
Preboj Rusije v Bahmutu?
Ruske sile pa so sporočile, da so dosegle preboj v Bahmutu na vzhodu Ukrajine, kjer že mesece potekajo intenzivni spopadi. "V regiji Doneck napadalne divizije nadaljujejo napade na zahodni del mesta Bahmut. Pri tem pa jih podpirajo zračnodesantne enote," je povedal tiskovni predstavnik ruskega obrambnega ministrstva Igor Konašenkov.
Preboj ruskih sil se je v Bahmutu zgodil le nekaj dni po tem, ko se je Jevgenij Prigožin, vodja ruske najemniške skupine Wagner, katere pripadniki se že dolgo bojujejo v tem mestu in njegovi okolici, pritožil, da so ruske enote zapustile svoje položaje v bližini mesta.
Seveda spet Konašenkov
Igor Konashenkov @ Wikipedia
During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Konashenkov falsely claimed that U.S. forces had planned to infect birds in Ukraine with a spreadable form of the H5N1 flu strain "with a mortality rate of 50 percent" as well as Newcastle disease.[3] He was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant General.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fikus_ ::
Na tule imaš še en diagram,ki kaže,da ni dveh stopenj. Maš pa še bojno glavo
To je pa drugacna slika, kot ona, ki jo je prilepil zmajc.
Prosim za vir slike, povezavo.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
mackilla ::
Na tule imaš še en diagram,ki kaže,da ni dveh stopenj. Maš pa še bojno glavo
To je pa drugacna slika, kot ona, ki jo je prilepil zmajc.
Prosim za vir slike, povezavo.
https://euro-sd.com/2023/05/news/31497/...
fikus_ ::
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Potem smo razrešili zadevo. To je dvostopenjska raketa.
Ta skica prikazuje staro rusko Oko.
Sloviti SS23 oziroma nadaljne izvedenke s pogonom na trda goriva.
Potem smo razrešili zadevo. To je dvostopenjska raketa.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
Lesoto ::
Ne Iskander, ne Kinzhal NISTA dvostopenjske rakete.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/...
PROPULSION: Single-stage solid propellant
Dosadan si.
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/...
PROPULSION: Single-stage solid propellant
Dosadan si.
Pac-Man ::
Tole je z novembra. GRU vohun je prebegnil v Estonijo, ki ga je pred 5imi leti aretirala zaradi vohunjenja :D
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-ex-rus...
“The Russians have no idea,” Alexander Toots, the head of Estonian counterintelligence, tells me, laughing.
“They have absolutely no idea he is here. You can be the one to tell them.”
Toots was referring to the defection of a Russian spy to Estonia. But Artem Zinchenko isn’t just any spy. He was the first agent of Russia’s military intelligence arrested by Estonia, in 2017, then traded back to Moscow a year later for an Estonian citizen in Russian custody. Zinchenko has now sought asylum from the very NATO country that unmasked and imprisoned him for spying against it.
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As Zinchenko told it, his decision to defect was as much motivated by the Kremlin’s brutality at home and abroad as it was by what he saw as Estonia’s humanity toward him, an enemy agent. His cautionary tale is also an indictment of the policies of Russian President Vladimir Putin, a former KGB case officer whose own spy apparatus has been weakened amid his Ukraine war, according to British intelligence.
...
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-ex-rus...
“The Russians have no idea,” Alexander Toots, the head of Estonian counterintelligence, tells me, laughing.
“They have absolutely no idea he is here. You can be the one to tell them.”
Toots was referring to the defection of a Russian spy to Estonia. But Artem Zinchenko isn’t just any spy. He was the first agent of Russia’s military intelligence arrested by Estonia, in 2017, then traded back to Moscow a year later for an Estonian citizen in Russian custody. Zinchenko has now sought asylum from the very NATO country that unmasked and imprisoned him for spying against it.
...
As Zinchenko told it, his decision to defect was as much motivated by the Kremlin’s brutality at home and abroad as it was by what he saw as Estonia’s humanity toward him, an enemy agent. His cautionary tale is also an indictment of the policies of Russian President Vladimir Putin, a former KGB case officer whose own spy apparatus has been weakened amid his Ukraine war, according to British intelligence.
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mackilla ::
T440 ::
Ja, jasno, poglej na skico.
Saj je lepo narisano - najprej stopnja 1 dolga 4 metre in potem stopnja 2 dolga 3 metre. Skupaj 7,7 metrov.
Banana to scale?
/sarcasm off
Tako v dveh stopnjah raketa tudi lažje obkroži ravno zemljo, doh.
Saj je lepo narisano - najprej stopnja 1 dolga 4 metre in potem stopnja 2 dolga 3 metre. Skupaj 7,7 metrov.
Banana to scale?
/sarcasm off
Tako v dveh stopnjah raketa tudi lažje obkroži ravno zemljo, doh.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Lesoto ::
Iskanderja bi po mojem lahko naredili dvostopenjskega (druga stopnja bi bila sposobna recimo manevrirat, warhead bi bil pa temu precej manjši ali pa tank za gorivo za prvi stage manjši), ampak za Kinzhala se ve, da ne manevrira v zraku in na podlagi tega je lahko samo single stage.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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tomlin ::
Ruski vojaki v begu. A je pričakovati kaj drugega? Na cedilu so jih pustili poveljniki, generali in predvsem josif visarionovič putin.
Svoboda in enakost ni isto kot svoboda.
M. Friedman
M. Friedman
tomlin ::
V videoposnetku, objavljenem v aplikaciji za sporočanje Telegram v torek, je Prigožin dejal, da so čete bežale zaradi "neumnosti" poveljnikov ruske vojske. "Vojak ne bi smel umreti zaradi popolne neumnosti svojih voditeljev," je dejal. "Ukazi, ki jih prejemajo z vrha, so popolnoma kriminalni."
Svoboda in enakost ni isto kot svoboda.
M. Friedman
M. Friedman
Pac-Man ::
V drugi vojaški sili sveta na britansko donacijo raket Ukrajini odgovarjajo s pozivi k terorizmu. Nekam nizko so padli ali pač samo nismo opazili, da so tam spodaj?
Zaenkrat samo random twit
https://twitter.com/vovik001/status/165...
That's fucked up! Simonyanka at Solovyov’s plain text said that in exchange for missiles from Britain for Ukraine, “Petrov and Bashirov” should be sent to London for “targeted elimination” of British politicians. It's time to give her a bust!
Zaenkrat samo random twit
https://twitter.com/vovik001/status/165...
That's fucked up! Simonyanka at Solovyov’s plain text said that in exchange for missiles from Britain for Ukraine, “Petrov and Bashirov” should be sent to London for “targeted elimination” of British politicians. It's time to give her a bust!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/165...
Storm Shadow/SCALP is an excellent missile and the russians won't shoot any of them down.
Firstly because the missiles will fly paths that avoid known russian radars, secondly people, who have planned SCALP missions say the radar cross section is that of a "raindrop".
Storm Shadow is meant to strike high value targets deep in the enemy's rear... like russia's Kalibr cruise missile depot in Sevastopol (in photo and at 44°36'0.61"N 33°35'48.83"E)
or russian submarines at their pier in Pivdenna Bay (44°36'17.09"N 33°31'59.82"E) or the command building at Belbek Air Base (44°41'7.67"N 33°34'29.07"E) or the ammo storage at Hvardiiske Air Base (45° 7'25.42"N 33°59'41.70"E).
There are at least 100 targets in Crimea that Storm Shadow should visit - and luckily the UK, France & Italy have 1,000+ of them.
Storm Shadow/SCALP is an excellent missile and the russians won't shoot any of them down.
Firstly because the missiles will fly paths that avoid known russian radars, secondly people, who have planned SCALP missions say the radar cross section is that of a "raindrop".
Storm Shadow is meant to strike high value targets deep in the enemy's rear... like russia's Kalibr cruise missile depot in Sevastopol (in photo and at 44°36'0.61"N 33°35'48.83"E)
There are at least 100 targets in Crimea that Storm Shadow should visit - and luckily the UK, France & Italy have 1,000+ of them.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
BorutO ::
Si mislite kaj bi to bilo enega norčevanja, posmehovanja, zbadanja itd tu gor, če bi v se to počeli američani v Iraku ali pa v Afganistanu, kar počnejo rusi? Bežijo po minskem polju, vozijo se po minskem polju kot da so na cesti, se ga napijejo do smrti, bežijo pred izstrelki kot prestrašene punčke, kakšen bagdad bi osvajali še danes (glede na to, kakšne težave imajo rusi pri enem bakhmutu), v vojno pošiljali dedke, obsojene morilce, delali bi prisilne mobilizacije in še ogromno drugega. :) No, lahko bi tako bilo, saj sta si amerika pa rusija sosedi, kar se tiče vojaške sile sveta. Če vse to počne Rusija, ki je druga sila na svetu, bi skoraj isto mogli početi američani. Namesto tega, ker nimajo kaj drugega za najti, se pa norčujejo iz toplovodarjev, ki jih je v ameriški vojski zelo veliko ... ampak nisem ravno prepričan, da se tudi ruski mobiliziranci oz. "vojaki" ne pikajo med seboj.
Najbolj smešno pa mi je, da rusofili še danes niso skapirali, da nimajo za burek proti eni ukrajini, ki je kar daleč nazaj po lestvici glede vojaške sile.
Komaj čakam konec vojne v Ukrajini, ko bo čez nekaj let postala približno natančna statistika žrtev vojakov na obeh straneh, ubitih civilistov (kar bo težko, glede na to, da jih je ogromno poseljenih po EU), uničene infrastrukture in tako naprej. Tudi v 2.sv.vojni ni mogoče priti do natančnih žrtev, so samo približne, in te varirajo za nekaj milijonov. Od 5-15 milijonov. V statistiki je navedeno, da je bilo žrtev med 70-85 milijoni. V tej statistiki so tudi žrtve, ki niso bili ubiti, ampak so umrli zaradi lakote, bolezni in drugih posrednih vzrokov.
Ampak kakor koli je ... vedno bolj se opazi, da je rusofilov tu gor vedno manj, ker so nekateri že dojeli, da ni vredno komentirati in zagovarjati ene pijanske vojske, ki ni sposobna po nekaj mesecih zavzeti enega majhnega mesteca, še bežijo stran. Ruska vojska je po mojem mnenju globoko izven deseterice, kar se tiče statistike sil sveta. Za Kitajce ne vem, ker tudi verjetno nimajo veliko izkušenj z bojevanjem, bi verjetno imeli ogromne izgube in težave s taktiko. Drugo so američani, ki imajo še največ izkušenj z bojevanjem. Iz napak so se učili skozi razne vojne, ki jih tudi ne bi smelo biti. Ampak, če pogledamo arabski svet, je tam bil po spopadih mir, lepše življenje ipd, dokler niso zbežali iz afganistana, recimo, kjer so ženske spet postale izmeček moškim. Ženske imajo tam samo za rojevanje in kuhanje.
Ampak ker so Ukrajinci uspeli razstreliti hipersonično raketo z ameriško protizračno obrambo, je jasno, da Rusi ne morejo ničesar narediti tako, da američani ne bi mogli razstreliti. Verjetno so tudi ti ruski su-57 samo ena napihnjena pravljica, kot ta kinžal, ki se baje izmika radarjem tako dolgo do cilja, dokler raketa ne opazi, da je cilj poln radarjev in kroži neskončno dolgo okoli cilja, dokler mu ne zmanjka goriva. To izmikanje radarjem je meni tako smešna izjava, ker ko enkrat raketa zazna radar, je teoretično že v območju, ker bi jo lahko radar zaznal, problem je edino, da je raketa take oblike, da se radijski valovi lahko ne odbijejo nazaj. Pa hitreje, ko raketa leti, večja je verjetnost, da jo radar zazna ... Torej ... Rusko hipersonično izmikanje radarjem je samo pravlijca za lahko noč.
Verjetno so rusi testirali to hipersonično raketo in izmikanje radarjem s svojo tehnologijo, ki je še iz časov sovjetske zveze. Ker ameriški radarji imajo močnejše oddajnike, bolj občutljive sprejemnike in novejšo tehnolgijo. Ne mečejo američani zastonj skoraj bilijon evorv v obrambo. Američani imajo na stotine projektov, ki jih raziskujejo. Veliko jih ovržejo oz. ukinejo, ker so težko dosegljivi ali predragi, tiste, ki pa obdržijo, pa jih stalno nadgrajujejo. Rusi pa si mislijo, da če vržejo v obrambo par deset milijard, da je to dovolj. Znanstveniki niso poceni, isto raziskovanje in tehnološki deli.
Najbolj smešno pa mi je, da rusofili še danes niso skapirali, da nimajo za burek proti eni ukrajini, ki je kar daleč nazaj po lestvici glede vojaške sile.
Komaj čakam konec vojne v Ukrajini, ko bo čez nekaj let postala približno natančna statistika žrtev vojakov na obeh straneh, ubitih civilistov (kar bo težko, glede na to, da jih je ogromno poseljenih po EU), uničene infrastrukture in tako naprej. Tudi v 2.sv.vojni ni mogoče priti do natančnih žrtev, so samo približne, in te varirajo za nekaj milijonov. Od 5-15 milijonov. V statistiki je navedeno, da je bilo žrtev med 70-85 milijoni. V tej statistiki so tudi žrtve, ki niso bili ubiti, ampak so umrli zaradi lakote, bolezni in drugih posrednih vzrokov.
Ampak kakor koli je ... vedno bolj se opazi, da je rusofilov tu gor vedno manj, ker so nekateri že dojeli, da ni vredno komentirati in zagovarjati ene pijanske vojske, ki ni sposobna po nekaj mesecih zavzeti enega majhnega mesteca, še bežijo stran. Ruska vojska je po mojem mnenju globoko izven deseterice, kar se tiče statistike sil sveta. Za Kitajce ne vem, ker tudi verjetno nimajo veliko izkušenj z bojevanjem, bi verjetno imeli ogromne izgube in težave s taktiko. Drugo so američani, ki imajo še največ izkušenj z bojevanjem. Iz napak so se učili skozi razne vojne, ki jih tudi ne bi smelo biti. Ampak, če pogledamo arabski svet, je tam bil po spopadih mir, lepše življenje ipd, dokler niso zbežali iz afganistana, recimo, kjer so ženske spet postale izmeček moškim. Ženske imajo tam samo za rojevanje in kuhanje.
Ampak ker so Ukrajinci uspeli razstreliti hipersonično raketo z ameriško protizračno obrambo, je jasno, da Rusi ne morejo ničesar narediti tako, da američani ne bi mogli razstreliti. Verjetno so tudi ti ruski su-57 samo ena napihnjena pravljica, kot ta kinžal, ki se baje izmika radarjem tako dolgo do cilja, dokler raketa ne opazi, da je cilj poln radarjev in kroži neskončno dolgo okoli cilja, dokler mu ne zmanjka goriva. To izmikanje radarjem je meni tako smešna izjava, ker ko enkrat raketa zazna radar, je teoretično že v območju, ker bi jo lahko radar zaznal, problem je edino, da je raketa take oblike, da se radijski valovi lahko ne odbijejo nazaj. Pa hitreje, ko raketa leti, večja je verjetnost, da jo radar zazna ... Torej ... Rusko hipersonično izmikanje radarjem je samo pravlijca za lahko noč.
Verjetno so rusi testirali to hipersonično raketo in izmikanje radarjem s svojo tehnologijo, ki je še iz časov sovjetske zveze. Ker ameriški radarji imajo močnejše oddajnike, bolj občutljive sprejemnike in novejšo tehnolgijo. Ne mečejo američani zastonj skoraj bilijon evorv v obrambo. Američani imajo na stotine projektov, ki jih raziskujejo. Veliko jih ovržejo oz. ukinejo, ker so težko dosegljivi ali predragi, tiste, ki pa obdržijo, pa jih stalno nadgrajujejo. Rusi pa si mislijo, da če vržejo v obrambo par deset milijard, da je to dovolj. Znanstveniki niso poceni, isto raziskovanje in tehnološki deli.
mojsterleo ::
Američani hipersonične rakete razvijajo že desetletja. Vendar so ugotovili da je izdelava prave zanesljive (ne tisto fejk kot imajo Rusi) izjemno draga in časovno potratna zadeva. Sedaj imajo neke testne inačice vendar stane izdelava enega testnega izvoda več kot 100 milijonov $, kar je več kot stane eno letalo F-35. Tudi če bi zagnali serijsko produkcijo bi bila cena izvoda med 40 in 60 mil $.
Rusi pa s Kinžali razsipavajo kot da so cenene čokoladice. Jasno je, da tu nekaj ne štima da se ZDA niso nič odzvale. Sesutje Kinžala v Ukrajini je samo potrdilo zakaj ZDA te rakete ne skrbijo kaj preveč.
Kinžal je samo nadgradnja iskanderjev ti pa so modernizacija scudov. Tj tehnologija iz devetdesetih ki jo patrioti dobro poznajo.
Rusi pa s Kinžali razsipavajo kot da so cenene čokoladice. Jasno je, da tu nekaj ne štima da se ZDA niso nič odzvale. Sesutje Kinžala v Ukrajini je samo potrdilo zakaj ZDA te rakete ne skrbijo kaj preveč.
Kinžal je samo nadgradnja iskanderjev ti pa so modernizacija scudov. Tj tehnologija iz devetdesetih ki jo patrioti dobro poznajo.
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fur80 ::
Kako končati vojno v Ukrajini? Rusom dobaviti neskončno vodke. Bodo hitro spoznali, da je lepše živeti
Bi bilo skoraj isto, zakaj. Ker je verjetno ruskih 1/2 mobilizirancev alkoholikov, ko se ti znajdejo v bunkerju, po parih dneh brez vodke, verjetno doživljajo krizo in tresavico. Takrat mu dati vodko, je verjetno isto, kot da mu napolniš baterije. Prestreči dobavo vodke, je skoraj isto pomembno kot prestreči dobavo goriva, pa naj imajo potem krize v bunkerju! ;)
Preveri tule sliko, kdor hodi ali je hodil v vaške gostilne, bo hitro znal oceniti in primerjati ljudi za šankom in jih postaviti kam kdo spada! :D
https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1...
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fur80 ::
to nekaj ne more štimati, ali je to vse fake, ali je Prigozhinu povsem odpeljalo in ve da je gotov, ali pa so zmenjeni nekaj. Da se takole dela norca iz 1 vojaka Rusije, to mu Ptuler ne more odpustiti.
The clowning continues: Prigozhin invited Shoigu to come to Bakhmut.
https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/sta...
The clowning continues: Prigozhin invited Shoigu to come to Bakhmut.
https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/sta...
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fikus_ ::
Se vam moram opravičiti, vsaj tistim, ki sem jim dvignil pritisk. Zavedla me je objava Zajca, slika prereza rakete in trditev da je to Kinžal.
Kot se je izkazalo, je to OKA (info od Blay44), katera pa je dvostopenjska raketa.
Lep dan.
Kot se je izkazalo, je to OKA (info od Blay44), katera pa je dvostopenjska raketa.
Lep dan.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
Zmajc ::
Pa če sem ti že 16 ur nazaj napisal da to ni Kinžal ampak se je šlo za to da se prikaže da je paylod samo majhen del znoteaj takih raket. Ti pa kar dalje nabijaš pa linkaš.
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
shmandi ::
Se vam moram opravičiti, vsaj tistim, ki sem jim dvignil pritisk. Zavedla me je objava Zajca, slika prereza rakete in trditev da je to Kinžal.
Kot se je izkazalo, je to OKA (info od Blay44), katera pa je dvostopenjska raketa.
Lep dan.
Dvostopenjska ne pomeni nujno, da ima tudi dva pogona. Prva (pogonska) stopnja pospeši raketo, jo dvigne do določene višine in potem odpade. Druga stopnja z bojno glavo potem nadaljuje pot po predvideni trajektoriji...
fur80 ::
papasmrk ::
Tale Prigožin ali je dober igralec in so njegovi izpadi vnaprej dogovorjeni s Kremljem z namenom, da zmedejo sovražnike ali pa ima človek PTSD in bi ga morali zamenjat s kom bolj prizemljenim. Resnično sem zmeden...
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fikus_ ::
Za Prigožina imam mešane občutke. Neumen ni, če ima privat vojsko, po drugi strani pa išče pozornost in rad govori, tudi neumnosti.
Možno, da se bo enkrat učil leteti brez kril.
Možno, da se bo enkrat učil leteti brez kril.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
bbbbbb2015 ::
Ajde pobje, kje so novice s fronte? Ali je pa spet media blackout?
Ne, nekega posebnega blackouta ni. Rusi bežijo iz Minkivke na južnem krilu Bakmuta, za sabo so pustili relativno goro opreme in streliva. Ruska 9. motorizirana brigada pa beži na severnem krilu Bakmuta. Za sabo so ravno tako pustili ogromne količine streliva in opreme.
Wagnerjevci so nekaj skušali zasesti pozicije, s katerih so zbežali Rusi, vendar so pač ugotovili, da bežijo v obroč. Kako se je to končalo, ne vem. Bomo vedeli jutri.
Ukrajinci supresirajo skladišča streliva in goriva v ozdju, potem se lotijo konkretnih Rusov, ki ostanejo po pol dneva borbe brez vsega, ter nato bežijo.
Zmajc ::
Po poročanju Ukrajinskih poveljnikov so prvi položaje zapustili Wagnerjevci, rusko vojsko, ki se ni umaknila pa so pobili. Za Prigožina pa pravijo da laže kot pes teče.
fur80 ::
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1...
To bo še zanimivo. Ukrajinci lahko sedaj bilo kje napihnejo "češke balone" pa bo Ruse panika in bodo morali utrditi obrambo tam, kjer ne bodo, bodo UA verjetno udarili z pravim orožjem. To je tudi razlog verjetno, da se napove ofenziva naprej in se ne čaka na presenečenje. Pametno delajo Ukrajinci nimaš kaj! :D
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mackilla ::
Pac-Man ::
upokojen general, bivši poveljnik ameriške vojske v Evropi
https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/status...
In discussing the upcoming Ukrainian offensive yesterday with a group of govt officials, one asked me “when will it start?”
I said: “in the attack, it starts when the commander feels it’s the right time…that’s an advantage of the offensive.”
I then explained RSOI.
RSOI is Reception, Staging, Onward Movement & Integration.
When units enter a combat zone, they are “received” in country, “staged” to move forward, then “moved” to the combat area, and then integrated into a larger unit.
How is this related to Ukraine, you ask?
Remember that Ukraine’s army has been receiving all kinds of different equipment from many different countries, and they are training at different EU training areas on new skills with that equipment.
Some training takes longer than other, depending on the kit.
When finished in, say, Germany, Poland, Estonia or other countries, they travel back to Ukraine & are “received” & “staged” with other types of partner units.
Once all together, they “move” forward, closer to the front lines, & are “integrated” into even larger units.
Now, multiply this by the estimated 9 Brigades - armor, engineers, artillery, logistics, staff & commanders, etc. (many of whom are coming together for the first time) - and it’s easy to understand why…it takes as long as it takes.
Commanders assess when they’re ready.
I once heard a Sergeant Major say “RSOI is converting piles of puzzle pieces into combat ready units.”
Spot on.
BTW, these “puzzle pieces” are being put together all across the 400+ km front lines, at points of Ukrainian general’s plan.
A few days ago, Czech President Pavel publicly told Zelenskyy “don’t be pushed, attack when you’re ready.”
I’m sure others have said the same to Gen Zaluzhnyi, chief of Ukraine’s Army.
A mentor once told me (as I prepared a division for combat) “go slow to go fast!”
Ukraine’s army will attack when they’re ready, at time and place(s) of their choosing, & they will be successful in their operation to regain sovereign territory, transitioning to offense takes significant preparation, coordination & synchronization.
This ain’t a video game.
In 2007, I had the honor of commanding the Germany-based @1stArmoredDiv.
We were the first “plug & play” division…we deployed with our division staff but all our combat brigades came from 7 different divisions in the US & our support units came from 13 different states.
Each unit’s RSOI execution during this “surge” was critical to getting forces into the fight.
This execution is what the Ukrainian Army is doing now.
Those wanting the offensive to start need to be patient.
It will go slow, then it will go fast.
https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/status...
In discussing the upcoming Ukrainian offensive yesterday with a group of govt officials, one asked me “when will it start?”
I said: “in the attack, it starts when the commander feels it’s the right time…that’s an advantage of the offensive.”
I then explained RSOI.
RSOI is Reception, Staging, Onward Movement & Integration.
When units enter a combat zone, they are “received” in country, “staged” to move forward, then “moved” to the combat area, and then integrated into a larger unit.
How is this related to Ukraine, you ask?
Remember that Ukraine’s army has been receiving all kinds of different equipment from many different countries, and they are training at different EU training areas on new skills with that equipment.
Some training takes longer than other, depending on the kit.
When finished in, say, Germany, Poland, Estonia or other countries, they travel back to Ukraine & are “received” & “staged” with other types of partner units.
Once all together, they “move” forward, closer to the front lines, & are “integrated” into even larger units.
Now, multiply this by the estimated 9 Brigades - armor, engineers, artillery, logistics, staff & commanders, etc. (many of whom are coming together for the first time) - and it’s easy to understand why…it takes as long as it takes.
Commanders assess when they’re ready.
I once heard a Sergeant Major say “RSOI is converting piles of puzzle pieces into combat ready units.”
Spot on.
BTW, these “puzzle pieces” are being put together all across the 400+ km front lines, at points of Ukrainian general’s plan.
A few days ago, Czech President Pavel publicly told Zelenskyy “don’t be pushed, attack when you’re ready.”
I’m sure others have said the same to Gen Zaluzhnyi, chief of Ukraine’s Army.
A mentor once told me (as I prepared a division for combat) “go slow to go fast!”
Ukraine’s army will attack when they’re ready, at time and place(s) of their choosing, & they will be successful in their operation to regain sovereign territory, transitioning to offense takes significant preparation, coordination & synchronization.
This ain’t a video game.
In 2007, I had the honor of commanding the Germany-based @1stArmoredDiv.
We were the first “plug & play” division…we deployed with our division staff but all our combat brigades came from 7 different divisions in the US & our support units came from 13 different states.
Each unit’s RSOI execution during this “surge” was critical to getting forces into the fight.
This execution is what the Ukrainian Army is doing now.
Those wanting the offensive to start need to be patient.
It will go slow, then it will go fast.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Uf uf... panika, panika med Rusi! Da niso Ukrajinci počasi namerno spuščali Ruse naprej pri Bakhmutu, da so jih lahko rešetali, sedaj jim bodo vrnili lepo preko Soledarja spet in potem navzdol proti Bakmutu. To bi bila šele strateška zmaga, jao.. a si predstavljate. Prigozhinu se je pa zmešalo. Ni še direktno omenil Putina, ko pa ga bo, pa vemo, da je konec z njim.
Notnow ::
Omg,kako pa zgleda zmaga ukrajine? a mi lahko nekdo razloži,kak si opomoreš ob taki demografski sliki? realnost je verjetno dosti slabša..
Pridni ukrajinci dajejo živlenje da naredijo teren komu? afričanom? arabcem? a je zelenko sploh ukrajinec,ali pomaga komu on delat čistko,ker tole res zgleda tak...
Absolutno so izgubili državo.z zmago ali brez,so izumrli narod...
Pridni ukrajinci dajejo živlenje da naredijo teren komu? afričanom? arabcem? a je zelenko sploh ukrajinec,ali pomaga komu on delat čistko,ker tole res zgleda tak...
Absolutno so izgubili državo.z zmago ali brez,so izumrli narod...
kow ::
Wow, si pa dobil najnovejse podatke. Leto se sploh se ni koncalo, ti pa si ze prestel Ukrajince.
Zmajc ::
Ukrajina uradnega popisa prebivalstva ni izvedla že od 2001, tako da so to vse projekcije na pamet.
Rambutan ::
Zanimiva je tudi primerjava med letoma 21 in 23, večina izmed beguncev pravi, da se ne namerava več vrniti v Ukrajino. Medtem pa jastrebi - Black Rock že krožijo nad ukrajinskim premoženjem...
https://twitter.com/Eureka_News_ENG/sta...
https://twitter.com/Eureka_News_ENG/sta...
Gregor P ::
LOL ker red herring oz. beden poskus spremembe teme ... in to kar vsi rusofili naenkrat na isto žogo
The main failure in computers is usually located between keyboard and chair.
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
Master_Yoda ::
Me zanima koliko rusov ki je pobegnilo pred naborom drugam se misli vrniti 
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
Greghorian ::
Mislim da Rambutana čisto preveč skrbi za demokrafsko sliko Ukrajincev. Po vojni in zmagi je vedno razcvet in baby boom zaradi optimizma. Drugače pa bo seveda za poraženca kot je Rusija, saj dokler ne bo konca vojne in umaknjenih sankcij bo to slaba perspektiva za njihove reveže, ki bodo bežali iz Rusije za boljše življenje.
luli ::
Zanimiva je tudi primerjava med letoma 21 in 23, večina izmed beguncev pravi, da se ne namerava več vrniti v Ukrajino. Medtem pa jastrebi - Black Rock že krožijo nad ukrajinskim premoženjem...
https://twitter.com/Eureka_News_ENG/sta...
Ne skrbi. Sigurno se vsi ne bodo vrnili to je res, vendar po vojni pride obnova in nataliteta. No tudi navadni rusi se bodo opremili. Če ne drugega bodo prvič srali na školjkah, kar je za Ruzzijo vsekakor napredek.