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Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II (bojna letala 5 generacije)
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WhiteAngel ::
Kako zagotovijo, da ni kakšnih backdoorov vgrajenih ali sabotaž glede na tako obsežno verigo dobaviteljev? Kaj boš naredil, če izbruhne vojna in ena država (khm... Italija... khm) prestopi na drugo stran h Kitajski? Lahko da imajo zadaj backdoore in Ameri izklopijo celo floto na daljavo, lahko da so kakšnega vgradili tudi Italijani in jih izklopijo Američanom na daljavo? No, če bi bil jaz Italija ali ZDA, bi tako sestavljal letalo in rezervne dele 
Razen, če ima ZDA zase ločene proizvodne linije z vsemi izključno lastnimi deli.
Razen, če ima ZDA zase ločene proizvodne linije z vsemi izključno lastnimi deli. Chalky ::
Posodobitev
Število letal 455. Norveška je prejšnji mesec postala 9 država na svetu z operativnim F-35. Nizozemska se zanima še za dodatnih 9 letal in številka zdaj znaša 46 letal. Oprli so še dvajseto bazo. Letos so proizvedli že skoraj 100 letal. Kljub masovni produkciji pa očitno ne bodo dosegli letošnjega cilja 500-tih letal saj bi v naslednjih 7 tednih morali proizvesti kar 45 letal. Mislim da jim bo zmanjkalo 20 letal za številko 500. V treh mesecih so dodali skoraj 105 novih pilotov in skoraj 350 novih vzdrževalcev.
Grčija se zanima za nakup 30 tih letal. Prav tako potekajo pogovori z Romunijo, Španijo in Singapurjem. Z Poljsko pa so že sklenili dogovor (36 letal).
Update:
Število letal je iz 455 poskočilo na 491 in so tik pred številko 500.
Število pilotov je iz 955 poskočilo na 975
Število ur letenja je iz 230.000 ur poskočilo na 240.000 ur.
v zadnjih 2 mesecih so dodali še 100 novih vzdrževalcev in je zdaj številka 8.585
Dodali so še eno vojaško bazo iz 20 na 21.
Kongres je odobril prodajo 12 bojnih letal F-35 Singapurju, ki je tako postala 4 država v Aziji z bojnim letalom pete generacije (Japonska, Avstralija, Južna Koreja in Singapur).
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2020/01...
Pa še največji Elephant Walk v zgodovini programa. 52 bojnih letal.
https://www.businessinsider.com/air-for...
Smrekar1 ::
'Pregrešno dragi' F-35A stane samo še 78 milijonov zelencev.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/10...
Za primerjavo, 'poceni in učinkovit' Su-35S stane 83 milijonov dolarjev.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/10...
Za primerjavo, 'poceni in učinkovit' Su-35S stane 83 milijonov dolarjev.
Mr.B ::
'Pregrešno dragi' F-35A stane samo še 78 milijonov zelencev.
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/10...
Za primerjavo, 'poceni in učinkovit' Su-35S stane 83 milijonov dolarjev.
in drobni tisk....
Maintenance cost is excluded from this comparison as F-35’s cost is still blurred.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
vostok_1 ::
Mislim, da bodo države zelo hitro spoznale, da je ekološko nevzdržno metat denar v precenjene igračke za miljarderje, ter za varnost poskrbele z ustreznejšimi ukrepi.
Ne govori neumnosti.
Današnji miljarderji si kupijo tehnološko, informacijsko in equipment wise privat vojsko, ki zlahka drži horde plebsev at bay.
Še posebej ker si ti plebse razorožil, saj jim očitno ne zaupaš rokovanja z orožjem.
Če pa bo kak antifa si preveč domišljal, bodo hitro z droni odstranili njihove poglavarje.
There will be chutes!
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21
It came from the lab.
Like tears in rain. Time to die. v_1 2012-21
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: vostok_1 ()
Chalky ::
Posodobitev
Število letal 455. Norveška je prejšnji mesec postala 9 država na svetu z operativnim F-35. Nizozemska se zanima še za dodatnih 9 letal in številka zdaj znaša 46 letal. Oprli so še dvajseto bazo. Letos so proizvedli že skoraj 100 letal. Kljub masovni produkciji pa očitno ne bodo dosegli letošnjega cilja 500-tih letal saj bi v naslednjih 7 tednih morali proizvesti kar 45 letal. Mislim da jim bo zmanjkalo 20 letal za številko 500. V treh mesecih so dodali skoraj 105 novih pilotov in skoraj 350 novih vzdrževalcev.
Grčija se zanima za nakup 30 tih letal. Prav tako potekajo pogovori z Romunijo, Španijo in Singapurjem. Z Poljsko pa so že sklenili dogovor (36 letal).
Update:
Število letal je iz 455 poskočilo na 491 in so tik pred številko 500.
Število pilotov je iz 955 poskočilo na 975
Število ur letenja je iz 230.000 ur poskočilo na 240.000 ur.
v zadnjih 2 mesecih so dodali še 100 novih vzdrževalcev in je zdaj številka 8.585
Dodali so še eno vojaško bazo iz 20 na 21.
Update:
Število letal je iz 491 poskočilo na 570 in so tik pred številko 600.
Število pilotov je iz 975 poskočilo na 1170
Število ur letenja je iz 240.000 ur poskočilo na 325.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 8.585 poskočilo na 9685
Število letalskih baz je iz 21 poskočilo na 26
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- Finska je dobila dovoljenje za nakup 64-tih letal
- UAE je vložil prošnjo za 34 F-35
- Katar si želi bojna letala pete generacije vendar Izrael temu nasprotuje
- Švica je dobila dovoljenje za nakup 40-tih letal
- Kanada se bo kot kaže odločila za nakup 100-tih letal, časa imajo do naslednjega leta.
- Avstralija je prejšnji mesec tudi uradno prejela 30-to letalo (naročili so jih 100)
Letos bodo zaradi virusa proizvedli 20 letal manj kot je bilo pričakovati. Je pa Lockheed Martin na začetku Avgusta objavil da so v enem tednu proizvedli 13 letal, kar je absolutni rekord.
https://twitter.com/theF35JPO/status/12...
Integracija Britanske letalonosilke in F-35B in F-35C letal:
Chalky ::
Po dolgem času novi update:
March 1st:
Število letal je iz 570 poskočilo na 620 (+50 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1170 poskočilo na 1270
Število ur letenja je iz 325.000 ur poskočilo na 368.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 9685 poskočilo na 10150
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
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- Bloomberg je nekaj dni nazaj objavil članek o tem kako naj bi bil F-35 popolni fail, predvsem zaradi stroškov vzdrževanja
- Švica se zanima za nakup približno 5-tih letal F-35
- Izrael je tudi uradno naročil še en "squadron" (25 dodatnih letal) in jih bo kmalu imel 75
- UAE bo kot kaže kmalu dobil dovoljenje za nakup kar 50 letal F-35
- Italija bo kot druga država (po Veliki Britaniji) integrirala svojo "letalonosilko" na katero bodo kmalu prispela letala F-35B, video spodaj:
Italijanska letalonosilka je prispela v Ameriško pristanišče
https://twitter.com/TradocDCG/status/13...
March 1st:
Število letal je iz 570 poskočilo na 620 (+50 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1170 poskočilo na 1270
Število ur letenja je iz 325.000 ur poskočilo na 368.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 9685 poskočilo na 10150
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
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- Bloomberg je nekaj dni nazaj objavil članek o tem kako naj bi bil F-35 popolni fail, predvsem zaradi stroškov vzdrževanja
- Švica se zanima za nakup približno 5-tih letal F-35
- Izrael je tudi uradno naročil še en "squadron" (25 dodatnih letal) in jih bo kmalu imel 75
- UAE bo kot kaže kmalu dobil dovoljenje za nakup kar 50 letal F-35
- Italija bo kot druga država (po Veliki Britaniji) integrirala svojo "letalonosilko" na katero bodo kmalu prispela letala F-35B, video spodaj:
Italijanska letalonosilka je prispela v Ameriško pristanišče
https://twitter.com/TradocDCG/status/13...
Chalky ::
10 Reasons Nearly Nothing Can Stop the F-35 Stealth Fighter
F-35 is the most survivable fighter in the world. All three variants of the F-35 have met their design goals for stealth. What that means in simple terms is that they can't be tracked or targeted by enemy radar. In addition, the heat from their engines is masked to foil heat-seeking missiles. When these "low observable" features are combined with the unique situational awareness afforded pilots through sensor fusion, it is easy to see why F-35s participating in military exercises typically defeat 20 or more adversary fighters for every F-35 that is lost. The Air Force's F-22 fighter is similarly survivable, but some facets of the F-35 design are stealthier.
F-35 is the most versatile fighter in the world. F-35 was designed as a family of fighters sharing common technology. The Air Force variant is several times more capable than the tactical aircraft it replaces at air-to-air combat, air-to-ground strikes, suppression of enemy air defenses, and collection of reconnaissance. The Marine variant adds to these features an ability to land and take off vertically, while providing close air support of ground forces. The Navy variant can carry large bombloads to greater distances than legacy aircraft--nearly 700 miles without aerial refueling. All three variants host advanced electronic warfare systems and other technology suitable for engaging in information operations.
F-35 is the most lethal fighter in the world. Survivability and versatility enable F-35 to take the fight to adversaries in a way that no predecessor could. In combination with the connectivity afforded by secure digital networking, the F-35 can accomplish kinetic and non-kinetic attacks with far greater effect than other tactical aircraft. Over 5,000 pounds of munitions can be carried internally while maximizing stealth or, if circumstances dictate, the fighter can also carry external loads for a total of 22,000 pounds of ordnance. Either way, an F-35 can precisely destroy multiple targets in a single flight while incurring far less risk than legacy fighters.
F-35 is being purchased by a dozen allies. From its inception, development of the F-35 fighter was shared by three U.S. military services with allies such as Australia, Italy and the United Kingdom. As a result, it has a sprawling industrial support base around the world. In recent years, additional overseas allies have joined the program, including Israel, Japan, Singapore and South Korea. Today a dozen U.S. allies have committed to the program with more likely to join, providing a clear vote of confidence in the price and performance of the F-35 family. Allied participation ensures that forces engaging in future coalition warfare will share similar capabilities, simplifying the execution of war plans.
F-35 is operational with nine nations and ten services. Allied participation in the F-35 program today isn't just predicated on the future promise of a fifth-generation, multirole fighter. Hundreds of F-35s including Air Force, Navy and Marine variants are actually operational around the world. Six air forces have conducted military missions, such as the Israeli strike against Iranian targets in Syria during which, as predicted, the F-35 went undetected. The F-35 thus is steadily replacing legacy fighters on four continents, reinforcing the global air dominance so crucial to U.S. and allied war plans.
F-35 is being continually improved. F-35 technology is frequently upgraded as new threats appear and new technology becomes available. The 15th production lot will feature new sensors, displays and apertures designed to keep the aircraft at the cutting edge of performance. Eleven new capabilities are being added to the electronic warfare suite, capabilities that either were not feasible or were not affordable when the program began. Some of the latest enhancements will reduce the cost of producing and operating the fighter. Planners are already looking ahead to the day when next-generation turbofan engines will increase the unrefueled combat radius of the aircraft to a thousand miles--a useful feature in the vast expanses of the Western Pacific.
F-35 is shaping the design of other aircraft. As it gradually populates the world's air forces, F-35 is becoming the global standard for tactical air power. Rivals such as China and Russia seek to match its capabilities, without which they cannot hope to win future wars. In the United States, several key systems on the F-35 are being adapted for use on the Air Force's future B-21 bomber, including the fighter's F135 engines and its uniquely agile electronic warfare suite. Use of F-35 technology on other combat aircraft reduces the cost of their development and attests to the performance of the fighter's core features.
F-35 is becoming much cheaper to build. The cost of building the fighter has fallen with each successive production lot, usually at a faster pace than government estimators predicted. All three variants saw production costs per plane drop by over 12% between the first and final lots funded during the Trump administration. At $78 million per fighter, the most common variant of F-35 today costs the government much less than the list price for a Boeing 737--the company's least expensive jetliner. Some widebody jetliners sell for over four times the cost of producing the most expensive version of F-35, the Navy variant.
F-35 is becoming much cheaper to operate. The cost per flight hour of operating an Air Force F-35 fell 23% during the Trump years. The data are hard to interpret because the government typically reports them in 2012 base years rather than in current dollars. Nonetheless, an apples-to-apples comparison indicates F-35's cost per flight hour is comparable to that of the Air Force's legacy F-15C/D fighters. As of 2020, Air Force F-35s cost about 50% more per flight hour than the F-16, but the F-35s are several times more productive in terms of delivering effects such as the suppression of enemy defenses. Additional reductions in cost per flight hour are expected as maintenance procedures are refined and onboard technology is enhanced.
F-35 is the cornerstone of future Air Force plans. The Air Force is expected to absorb 70% of the F-35's domestic production run. That will be sufficient to replace all of its Cold War F-16s. Air Force Chief of Staff C.Q. Brown last month described F-35 as the "cornerstone" of his service's future fighter capability, pledging not to take money out of the program to fund more advanced concepts. As the only stealthy tactical aircraft currently in serial production, F-35 is the Air Force's sole viable option for replacing its Cold War fighter fleet with aircraft capable of meeting the demands of modern warfare. The Air Force will continue to experiment with other concepts, but there is little doubt that F-35 is central to sustaining U.S. global air dominance.
F-35 is the most survivable fighter in the world. All three variants of the F-35 have met their design goals for stealth. What that means in simple terms is that they can't be tracked or targeted by enemy radar. In addition, the heat from their engines is masked to foil heat-seeking missiles. When these "low observable" features are combined with the unique situational awareness afforded pilots through sensor fusion, it is easy to see why F-35s participating in military exercises typically defeat 20 or more adversary fighters for every F-35 that is lost. The Air Force's F-22 fighter is similarly survivable, but some facets of the F-35 design are stealthier.
F-35 is the most versatile fighter in the world. F-35 was designed as a family of fighters sharing common technology. The Air Force variant is several times more capable than the tactical aircraft it replaces at air-to-air combat, air-to-ground strikes, suppression of enemy air defenses, and collection of reconnaissance. The Marine variant adds to these features an ability to land and take off vertically, while providing close air support of ground forces. The Navy variant can carry large bombloads to greater distances than legacy aircraft--nearly 700 miles without aerial refueling. All three variants host advanced electronic warfare systems and other technology suitable for engaging in information operations.
F-35 is the most lethal fighter in the world. Survivability and versatility enable F-35 to take the fight to adversaries in a way that no predecessor could. In combination with the connectivity afforded by secure digital networking, the F-35 can accomplish kinetic and non-kinetic attacks with far greater effect than other tactical aircraft. Over 5,000 pounds of munitions can be carried internally while maximizing stealth or, if circumstances dictate, the fighter can also carry external loads for a total of 22,000 pounds of ordnance. Either way, an F-35 can precisely destroy multiple targets in a single flight while incurring far less risk than legacy fighters.
F-35 is being purchased by a dozen allies. From its inception, development of the F-35 fighter was shared by three U.S. military services with allies such as Australia, Italy and the United Kingdom. As a result, it has a sprawling industrial support base around the world. In recent years, additional overseas allies have joined the program, including Israel, Japan, Singapore and South Korea. Today a dozen U.S. allies have committed to the program with more likely to join, providing a clear vote of confidence in the price and performance of the F-35 family. Allied participation ensures that forces engaging in future coalition warfare will share similar capabilities, simplifying the execution of war plans.
F-35 is operational with nine nations and ten services. Allied participation in the F-35 program today isn't just predicated on the future promise of a fifth-generation, multirole fighter. Hundreds of F-35s including Air Force, Navy and Marine variants are actually operational around the world. Six air forces have conducted military missions, such as the Israeli strike against Iranian targets in Syria during which, as predicted, the F-35 went undetected. The F-35 thus is steadily replacing legacy fighters on four continents, reinforcing the global air dominance so crucial to U.S. and allied war plans.
F-35 is being continually improved. F-35 technology is frequently upgraded as new threats appear and new technology becomes available. The 15th production lot will feature new sensors, displays and apertures designed to keep the aircraft at the cutting edge of performance. Eleven new capabilities are being added to the electronic warfare suite, capabilities that either were not feasible or were not affordable when the program began. Some of the latest enhancements will reduce the cost of producing and operating the fighter. Planners are already looking ahead to the day when next-generation turbofan engines will increase the unrefueled combat radius of the aircraft to a thousand miles--a useful feature in the vast expanses of the Western Pacific.
F-35 is shaping the design of other aircraft. As it gradually populates the world's air forces, F-35 is becoming the global standard for tactical air power. Rivals such as China and Russia seek to match its capabilities, without which they cannot hope to win future wars. In the United States, several key systems on the F-35 are being adapted for use on the Air Force's future B-21 bomber, including the fighter's F135 engines and its uniquely agile electronic warfare suite. Use of F-35 technology on other combat aircraft reduces the cost of their development and attests to the performance of the fighter's core features.
F-35 is becoming much cheaper to build. The cost of building the fighter has fallen with each successive production lot, usually at a faster pace than government estimators predicted. All three variants saw production costs per plane drop by over 12% between the first and final lots funded during the Trump administration. At $78 million per fighter, the most common variant of F-35 today costs the government much less than the list price for a Boeing 737--the company's least expensive jetliner. Some widebody jetliners sell for over four times the cost of producing the most expensive version of F-35, the Navy variant.
F-35 is becoming much cheaper to operate. The cost per flight hour of operating an Air Force F-35 fell 23% during the Trump years. The data are hard to interpret because the government typically reports them in 2012 base years rather than in current dollars. Nonetheless, an apples-to-apples comparison indicates F-35's cost per flight hour is comparable to that of the Air Force's legacy F-15C/D fighters. As of 2020, Air Force F-35s cost about 50% more per flight hour than the F-16, but the F-35s are several times more productive in terms of delivering effects such as the suppression of enemy defenses. Additional reductions in cost per flight hour are expected as maintenance procedures are refined and onboard technology is enhanced.
F-35 is the cornerstone of future Air Force plans. The Air Force is expected to absorb 70% of the F-35's domestic production run. That will be sufficient to replace all of its Cold War F-16s. Air Force Chief of Staff C.Q. Brown last month described F-35 as the "cornerstone" of his service's future fighter capability, pledging not to take money out of the program to fund more advanced concepts. As the only stealthy tactical aircraft currently in serial production, F-35 is the Air Force's sole viable option for replacing its Cold War fighter fleet with aircraft capable of meeting the demands of modern warfare. The Air Force will continue to experiment with other concepts, but there is little doubt that F-35 is central to sustaining U.S. global air dominance.
pegasus ::
Od kod pobiraš to propagando? Tole je realno stanje: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2...
kow ::
Projekt je fail glede na kolicino vlozenega denarja. Letalo pa ohranja oz. povecuje tehnolosko prednost.
Chalky ::
25 F-35A's assigned to the 354th FW prepare to launch during Arctic Gold 21-2 April 7, 2021, on Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska.
Američani gradijo pravi fortress na Alaski, Do konca leta si bo Alaska lastila kar 100 letal pete generacije (petdeset F-22 in petdeset F-35)
Američani gradijo pravi fortress na Alaski, Do konca leta si bo Alaska lastila kar 100 letal pete generacije (petdeset F-22 in petdeset F-35)
Gagatronix ::
20 let so tega hudica packal skupaj, ce ne se dlje, zmetali vanj tone denarja, in koncni rezultat je katastrofa.
Poldi112 ::
Ni ravno katastrofa, zgolj draga igračka, ki je v bistvu ne potrebujejo.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Mr.B ::
Verjetno jih lahko začno prodajati za simbolično ceno.... ker če "licenčnina" poteče verjetno ne moreš niti odpreti cocpita...
Sustainment Becoming Most Profitable Part of F-35 for Lockheed Martin
Nema para ?
F-35 program office announces a "strategic pause" on new logistics system
Go Nuclear, nema para za letala.
Why Is The UK Looking To 'Drastically Reduce' F-35 Stealth Jets From Its Air Force?
Sustainment Becoming Most Profitable Part of F-35 for Lockheed Martin
Nema para ?
F-35 program office announces a "strategic pause" on new logistics system
Go Nuclear, nema para za letala.
Why Is The UK Looking To 'Drastically Reduce' F-35 Stealth Jets From Its Air Force?
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Chalky ::
Po dolgem času novi update:
March 1st:
Število letal je iz 570 poskočilo na 620 (+50 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1170 poskočilo na 1270
Število ur letenja je iz 325.000 ur poskočilo na 368.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 9685 poskočilo na 10150
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
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- Bloomberg je nekaj dni nazaj objavil članek o tem kako naj bi bil F-35 popolni fail, predvsem zaradi stroškov vzdrževanja
- Švica se zanima za nakup približno 5-tih letal F-35
- Izrael je tudi uradno naročil še en "squadron" (25 dodatnih letal) in jih bo kmalu imel 75
- UAE bo kot kaže kmalu dobil dovoljenje za nakup kar 50 letal F-35
- Italija bo kot druga država (po Veliki Britaniji) integrirala svojo "letalonosilko" na katero bodo kmalu prispela letala F-35B, video spodaj:
Italijanska letalonosilka je prispela v Ameriško pristanišče
https://twitter.com/TradocDCG/status/13...
Novi update:
Število letal je iz 620 poskočilo na 655 (+35 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1270 poskočilo na 1405
Število ur letenja je iz 368.000 ur poskočilo na 411.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 10150 poskočilo na 10755
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
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- Švica je 3 dni nazaj tudi uradno potrdila nakup 36 bojnih letal F-35 in tako postala že petnajsta država ki se je priklučila programu.
- Lockheed Martin bo letos proizvedel kar 141 letal. Prihodnje leto pa kar 169
- Danska je 2 meseca nazaj tudi uradno prejela prvi dve letali F-35 in zdaj Danski piloti že trenirajo v Teksasu
- Italijani bodo čez nekaj dni tudi uradno prejeli svoja letala F-35B za svojo letalonosilko
- Kot kaže bo končno število vseh letal med 4000-4500
- Do leta 2030 bodo Evropske države prejele skoraj 500 bojnih letal F-35
Chalky ::
Po dolgem času novi update:
March 1st:
Število letal je iz 570 poskočilo na 620 (+50 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1170 poskočilo na 1270
Število ur letenja je iz 325.000 ur poskočilo na 368.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 9685 poskočilo na 10150
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
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- Bloomberg je nekaj dni nazaj objavil članek o tem kako naj bi bil F-35 popolni fail, predvsem zaradi stroškov vzdrževanja
- Švica se zanima za nakup približno 5-tih letal F-35
- Izrael je tudi uradno naročil še en "squadron" (25 dodatnih letal) in jih bo kmalu imel 75
- UAE bo kot kaže kmalu dobil dovoljenje za nakup kar 50 letal F-35
- Italija bo kot druga država (po Veliki Britaniji) integrirala svojo "letalonosilko" na katero bodo kmalu prispela letala F-35B, video spodaj:
Italijanska letalonosilka je prispela v Ameriško pristanišče
https://twitter.com/TradocDCG/status/13...
Novi update:
Število letal je iz 620 poskočilo na 655 (+35 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1270 poskočilo na 1405
Število ur letenja je iz 368.000 ur poskočilo na 411.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 10150 poskočilo na 10755
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
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- Švica je 3 dni nazaj tudi uradno potrdila nakup 36 bojnih letal F-35 in tako postala že petnajsta država ki se je priklučila programu.
- Lockheed Martin bo letos proizvedel kar 141 letal. Prihodnje leto pa kar 169
- Danska je 2 meseca nazaj tudi uradno prejela prvi dve letali F-35 in zdaj Danski piloti že trenirajo v Teksasu
- Italijani bodo čez nekaj dni tudi uradno prejeli svoja letala F-35B za svojo letalonosilko
- Kot kaže bo končno število vseh letal med 4000-4500
- Do leta 2030 bodo Evropske države prejele skoraj 500 bojnih letal F-35
Novi update:
Število letal je iz 655 poskočilo na 720 (+65 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1405 poskočilo na 1535
Število ur letenja je iz 411.000 ur poskočilo na 463.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 10755 poskočilo na 11500
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
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- Finska se je zdaj tudi uradno odločila za nakup 64 letal F-35, nakup jih bo stal $11 milijard dolarjev. Finska je po Švici zdaj druga država ki je letos tudi uradno pristala na nakup F-35 letal. Kanada bo očitno prav tako kmalu prisegla programu.
- Pri UAE-ju pa so si očitno premislili in bodo vse skupaj še malce preučili tako da je nakup 50 letal zdaj pod vprašajem, saj so pogoji ki jih zahtvajo ZDA enostavno neprimerni, po mnenju EAU-ja.
- Maroko se resno zanima za nakup letal
Evropske države ki so prisegle v nakup bojnih letal F-35:
Uradno:
Belgija: 34 letal
Italija: 90 letal
Finska: 64 letal
Danska: 27 letal
Nizozemska: 46 letal
Norveška: 52 letal
Polska: 32 letal
Švica: 36 letal
Velika Britanija: 138 leta:
Grčija: 24 letal
Skupaj: 543 letal
*Turčija: 100 letal (pogodba je bila prekinjena, pogajanja naj bi se kmalu spet pričela)
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Ostale države:
ZDA: 2400 letal
Avstralija: 100 letal
Kanada: 100 letal
Israel: 75 letal
Japonska: 147 letal
Južna Koreja: 47 letal
Singapue: 12 letal
Skupaj: 2881 letal
Končna številka bi lahko bila okoli 4000 letal.
Mr.B ::
Chalky,
No vidiš, samo paniko moraš delat, in potem prodajaš najemniški model storitve.. Letalo brez updato postane v nekaj letih "neuporabno".
No vidiš, samo paniko moraš delat, in potem prodajaš najemniški model storitve.. Letalo brez updato postane v nekaj letih "neuporabno".
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
gozdar1 ::
Pozdravljata vas vlado in ši iz LM-jevega marketinškega oddelka.
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Scaramouche ::
Zanimivo je kako so včasih naročevali veliko večje številke letal,danes pa par sto komadov...
Primer
Jugoslovansko vojaško letalstvo (JRV - Jugoslavensko ratno vazduhoplovstvo) je imelo okoli 32.000 pripadnikov ter več kot 4.000 zunanjih izvajalcev. Imelo je več kot 1.000 letal in 200 helikopterjev, tako je bilo leta 1991 druga najmočnejša letalska sila v Evropi.
Primer
Jugoslovansko vojaško letalstvo (JRV - Jugoslavensko ratno vazduhoplovstvo) je imelo okoli 32.000 pripadnikov ter več kot 4.000 zunanjih izvajalcev. Imelo je več kot 1.000 letal in 200 helikopterjev, tako je bilo leta 1991 druga najmočnejša letalska sila v Evropi.
Chalky ::
Prejšnji update: December 2021
Število letal je iz 655 poskočilo na 720 (+65 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1405 poskočilo na 1535
Število ur letenja je iz 411.000 ur poskočilo na 463.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 10755 poskočilo na 11500
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
Novi update: February 1, 2022
Število letal je iz 720 poskočilo na 760 (+40 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1535 poskočilo na 1560
Število ur letenja je iz 463.000 ur poskočilo na 480.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 11500 poskočilo na 11680
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35: 9
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- Nemci razmišljajo da bi vendarle kupili bojna letala F-35, rečeno je da bi zamenjali vsaj del svojih letal za F-35.
- Trenutno potekajo pogajanja da bi Turčijo ponovno vrnili v program, Turčija je naročila 120 letal.
- Lockheed napovedu je dabo do spomladi dosegli številko 800 in do konca leta vse skupaj povečali na 900.
- Letalska vojaška baza Eielson Air Force Base na Alaski ima zdaj že 54 bojnih letal F-35
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1488...
Število letal je iz 655 poskočilo na 720 (+65 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1405 poskočilo na 1535
Število ur letenja je iz 411.000 ur poskočilo na 463.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 10755 poskočilo na 11500
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
Novi update: February 1, 2022
Število letal je iz 720 poskočilo na 760 (+40 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1535 poskočilo na 1560
Število ur letenja je iz 463.000 ur poskočilo na 480.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 11500 poskočilo na 11680
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35: 9
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- Nemci razmišljajo da bi vendarle kupili bojna letala F-35, rečeno je da bi zamenjali vsaj del svojih letal za F-35.
- Trenutno potekajo pogajanja da bi Turčijo ponovno vrnili v program, Turčija je naročila 120 letal.
- Lockheed napovedu je dabo do spomladi dosegli številko 800 in do konca leta vse skupaj povečali na 900.
- Letalska vojaška baza Eielson Air Force Base na Alaski ima zdaj že 54 bojnih letal F-35
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1488...
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Mr.B ::
Prejšnji update: December 2021
Število letal je iz 655 poskočilo na 720 (+65 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1405 poskočilo na 1535
Število ur letenja je iz 411.000 ur poskočilo na 463.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 10755 poskočilo na 11500
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
Novi update: February 1, 2022
Število letal je iz 720 poskočilo na 760 (+40 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1535 poskočilo na 1560
Število ur letenja je iz 463.000 ur poskočilo na 480.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 11500 poskočilo na 11680
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35: 9
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- Nemci razmišljajo da bi vendarle kupili bojna letala F-35, rečeno je da bi zamenjali vsaj del svojih letal za F-35.
- Trenutno potekajo pogajanja da bi Turčijo ponovno vrnili v program, Turčija je naročila 120 letal.
- Lockheed napovedu je dabo do spomladi dosegli številko 800 in do konca leta vse skupaj povečali na 900.
- Letalska vojaška baza Eielson Air Force Base na Alaski ima zdaj že 54 bojnih letal F-35
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1488...
Nadgradnja jer že sedaj predraga, kaj šele ko bo polna flota in bo potrebno nadgraditi...
The Block 4 upgrade program’s $14 billion estimated cost is more expensive than many Army, Navy and Air Force acquisition programs.
F-35 re-engining could be too expensive for the USAF.
Finally, it is projected that the engine for the future F-35 Block 4 will require modifications to provide more power and greater thermal management capability than the current F135s.
Overall, though, a moderate increase in unit price arguably isn’t the main issue, because procurement costs account for less than a quarter of the $1.7 trillion projected lifetime cost of the F-35 program.
Instead, a report published by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) on July 7 warns that its sustainment—currently expected to total $1.27 trillion in real dollars—which threatens to break the Pentagon budget.
Now, Kendall said, the Pentagon seems to be in a similar situation: The Air Force should be buying the F-35 that it needs—specifically the Block 4 upgrade with Technology Refresh 3, “which is having problems,” Kendall said.
TR3 includes a new core processor, a radar upgrade, and a new cockpit display, along with software updates to enhance electronic warfare capabilities. This refresh would “unlock” the jet’s Block 4 improvements. Because the Block 4 version is what the Air Force wants, negotiations have focused on fewer aircraft over the upcoming production lots. The F-35 Joint Program Office has said the TR3 upgrade will come in Lot 15, set for 2023, “as required.”
Rekel be ,da je Amerika vse dala v eno jajce, sedaj pa mora delat na hype, drugače se ji bo vse sesulo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Chalky ::
Mr.B
Kljub temu gre program naprej, številni so dejali da se bo proizvodnja ustavila tako kot pri F-22, pa jih zdaj proizvajajo hitreje kot kadarkoli prej. Seveda ne trdim da problemi ne obstajajo, nič ni popolno sploh pa ne v vojaškem smislu. Dejstvo pa ostaja da tistih 14 milijard ni prav veliko če upoštevamo da naj bi celotni program stal skoraj 1.7 Trilijona dolarjev. Prav tako ni vse tako zelo črno kot opisuješ zgoraj...
Maintainers, rejoice! The first phase of a major F-35 logistics overhaul is complete
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/01/mai...
Drugače pa težko trdim da so dali vse v isto košaro, imajo F-22, pa posodobljeni F-15EX poleg tega že testirajo bojno letalo 6 generacije. Je pa res da je verjetno najlažje integrirati sile če imaš eno letalo različnih variacij predvsem če integracija poteka globalno. Verjetno je veliko lažje integrirati svoje zračne sile z ostalimi če gre za isto letalo kot pa če bi imela vsaka država svojega.
Kljub temu gre program naprej, številni so dejali da se bo proizvodnja ustavila tako kot pri F-22, pa jih zdaj proizvajajo hitreje kot kadarkoli prej. Seveda ne trdim da problemi ne obstajajo, nič ni popolno sploh pa ne v vojaškem smislu. Dejstvo pa ostaja da tistih 14 milijard ni prav veliko če upoštevamo da naj bi celotni program stal skoraj 1.7 Trilijona dolarjev. Prav tako ni vse tako zelo črno kot opisuješ zgoraj...
Maintainers, rejoice! The first phase of a major F-35 logistics overhaul is complete
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/01/mai...
Drugače pa težko trdim da so dali vse v isto košaro, imajo F-22, pa posodobljeni F-15EX poleg tega že testirajo bojno letalo 6 generacije. Je pa res da je verjetno najlažje integrirati sile če imaš eno letalo različnih variacij predvsem če integracija poteka globalno. Verjetno je veliko lažje integrirati svoje zračne sile z ostalimi če gre za isto letalo kot pa če bi imela vsaka država svojega.
Mr.B ::
Mr.B
Kljub temu gre program naprej, številni so dejali da se bo proizvodnja ustavila tako kot pri F-22, pa jih zdaj proizvajajo hitreje kot kadarkoli prej. Seveda ne trdim da problemi ne obstajajo, nič ni popolno sploh pa ne v vojaškem smislu. Dejstvo pa ostaja da tistih 14 milijard ni prav veliko če upoštevamo da naj bi celotni program stal skoraj 1.7 Trilijona dolarjev. Prav tako ni vse tako zelo črno kot opisuješ zgoraj...
Maintainers, rejoice! The first phase of a major F-35 logistics overhaul is complete
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/01/mai...
Drugače pa težko trdim da so dali vse v isto košaro, imajo F-22, pa posodobljeni F-15EX poleg tega že testirajo bojno letalo 6 generacije. Je pa res da je verjetno najlažje integrirati sile če imaš eno letalo različnih variacij predvsem če integracija poteka globalno. Verjetno je veliko lažje integrirati svoje zračne sile z ostalimi če gre za isto letalo kot pa če bi imela vsaka država svojega.
Pa sej veš kaj si linkal..
The new ODIN system (which, like the F-35 itself, was designed by Lockheed Martin) comes in two suitcase-sized cases weighing 100 pounds, replacing a big electronics box that weighed around 800 pounds. Its increased computing power cuts processing times by as much as 50%.
Naboljša je pa ta da morajo kupovati Bloc3 da lahko nadgradijo na Block 4. Kongresniku ki je to sklenil, se mu smeji...
F22 je upokojen, kaj bo zamenjava ne vemo... F35 premaz rjavi enako kot F22, verjetno je samo cenejši...
F 35 naj bi bil jajce ki zamenja vse.... Upaj le da se ne najde resnična luknja, sej veš.... Potem
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Chalky ::
Prejšnji update: December 2021
Število letal je iz 655 poskočilo na 720 (+65 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1405 poskočilo na 1535
Število ur letenja je iz 411.000 ur poskočilo na 463.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 10755 poskočilo na 11500
Število letalskih baz je iz 26 poskočilo na 27
Novi update: February 1, 2022
Število letal je iz 720 poskočilo na 760 (+40 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1535 poskočilo na 1560
Število ur letenja je iz 463.000 ur poskočilo na 480.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 11500 poskočilo na 11680
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35: 9
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- Nemci razmišljajo da bi vendarle kupili bojna letala F-35, rečeno je da bi zamenjali vsaj del svojih letal za F-35.
- Trenutno potekajo pogajanja da bi Turčijo ponovno vrnili v program, Turčija je naročila 120 letal.
- Lockheed napovedu je dabo do spomladi dosegli številko 800 in do konca leta vse skupaj povečali na 900.
- Letalska vojaška baza Eielson Air Force Base na Alaski ima zdaj že 54 bojnih letal F-35
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1488...
Update: July 1 2022:
Število letal je iz 760 poskočilo na 820 (+60 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1560 poskočilo na 1695
Število ur letenja je iz 480.000 ur poskočilo na 540.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 11680 poskočilo na 12520
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 je iz 9 poskočilo na 10
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- Lockheed Martin in Pentagon sta sklenila dogovor za naslednji "lot" 375 bojnih letal F-35 v vrednosti $30 Milijard dolarjev.
- Češka se je očitno odločila da bo opustila Švedski Gripen in se priključila F-35 programu. Naročili naj bi 24 bojnih letal.
- Lockheed Martin pričakuje letos rekordno proizvodnjo bojnih letal F-35. Cilj je 900+ bojnih letal.
- F-35 block 4 upgrades seboj prinaša 66 edinstvenih zmogljivosti s približno 16 orožji, ki jih začetni del F-35 ni imel.
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1520...
48 F-35A Lightning II and 12 F-16 aircraft from 354th Fighter Wing participate in a readiness “elephant walk” exercise at Eielson Air Force Alaska
South Korea's F-35 Elephant Walk
The superiority of the USMC. F-35B Lightning II flights from USS Tripoli.
S. Korea, U.S. fighter jets fly in formation, in show of force to N. Korea
U.S. Air Force and Republic of Korea Air Force F-35A. South Korea July 12, 2022.
South Korea and the US flew warplanes including stealth fighter jets over waters around the Korean peninsula Today. 16 South Korean warplanes, including F-35 stealth fighters and 4 US F-16 jets, formed an attack squadron over the Yellow Sea to "respond to the enemy threat"
US 5th-gen stealth fighters perform “Elephant Walk” in Japan
nirburu ::
Kaj pa vem. Me ne prepriča. Te zadeve v eni pravi vojni bi bile operativne morda slab mesec. Pol bi začelo zmanjkovati delov, osebja, municije. Pa še moderna protiletalska obramba bi jih nekaj sklatila. Vsega skupaj je itak par komadov.
redtech ::
Ja baje ni obrambe proti f35, ker je ta povezan s fregatami. Scenarij je tak, da ko je zračna obramba odkrita se f35 skrije za hrib, fregata z raketo uniči protiletalsko...
Tako so mene podučili, kako je pa zares pa dvomim, da bomo videli.
Tako so mene podučili, kako je pa zares pa dvomim, da bomo videli.
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Horas ::
a tu oa ni pomanjkanja čipov pa ostale elektronike?
orožarski posel more laufat to je najbol pomembno. orožje.
orožarski posel more laufat to je najbol pomembno. orožje.
8700k+z390, 32gb 3600mhz, 1080ti, 700w gold, 512gb+2x250gb m.2 nvme + 2tb hdd
8500+b360, 32gb 2666mhz, rx 6600, 600w bronze, 512gb+250gb ssd m.2 + 2tb hdd
8500+b360, 32gb 2666mhz, rx 6600, 600w bronze, 512gb+250gb ssd m.2 + 2tb hdd
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redtech ::
To novico so lansiral na slabše poslovne rezultate, ne pomaga dosti, tako kot hype s himarsi ne deluje.
Sklepam, da bo pa padec takoj, ko jih bodo začeli uničevati. Seveda bo US to zanikala do zadnjega..., most čez dniper... pripravili bodo eno super pogodbo za f35, da vsaj nekaj offloada zadržijo.
Tako se igrajo gospodje, raja se pa na terenu in twitterju zamoti :)
Sklepam, da bo pa padec takoj, ko jih bodo začeli uničevati. Seveda bo US to zanikala do zadnjega..., most čez dniper... pripravili bodo eno super pogodbo za f35, da vsaj nekaj offloada zadržijo.
Tako se igrajo gospodje, raja se pa na terenu in twitterju zamoti :)
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Chalky ::
With an increasingly complex global threat environment, our customers are looking for us to quickly introduce disruptive approaches that counter adversarial threats. We're exploring ways a piloted aircraft can partner with a team of autonomous systems to offer greater mission flexibility at a low cost: Distributed Teaming.
Mr.B ::
With an increasingly complex global threat environment, our customers are looking for us to quickly introduce disruptive approaches that counter adversarial threats. We're exploring ways a piloted aircraft can partner with a team of autonomous systems to offer greater mission flexibility at a low cost: Distributed Teaming.
Da super marketing...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Chalky ::
FORBES: Suddenly, The F-35 Fighter Is Everywhere
If the F-35 fighter was a normal Pentagon program, this July would look like a landmark month of spectacular successes. Instead, it is shaping up to be a fairly typical month in the recent history of the world's biggest weapons project.
Greece disclosed that it wanted to buy 20 of the multirole fighters, and maybe twice that number. The Czech Republic revealed that it wanted 24.
The government of South Korea announced it would increase the size of its planned F-35 fleet by 50%, to 60 aircraft.
And news out of the Farnborough Air Show was that the Pentagon and airframe integrator Lockheed MartinLMT 0.0% had reached agreement on the next three production lots of F-35, with the aim of buying 375 fighters in three versions for the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and various overseas partners.
Meanwhile, F-35 pilots, of whom 1,700 have been trained, continued to fly training and operational missions, having accumulated well over half a million flight hours.
In the Baltic region, U.S. F-35s flying out of Estonia supported regional air defense. In the Mediterranean, they flew from Souda Bay on Crete to train with Greece's air force. In Northeast Asia, they conducted exercises with the F-35s of South Korea's air force.
Elsewhere in the Pacific, sea-based F-35s participated in Pacific Rim exercises off Hawaii, and Australia announced that it had stood up the first full-service depot for maintaining F-35 engines in the Indo-Pacific--organized to support the 100 F-35s Canberra is buying plus those of Japan, South Korea, and U.S. services operating in the region.
Remember, I'm just talking about July, and the month isn't over.
F-35 is fast becoming the most ubiquitous tactical aircraft in the world, the fighter every friend wants and every enemy fears.
With 830 fighters delivered and thousands more to come--the U.S. alone plans to buy 2,456--it seems that F-35 will define what air dominance means through mid-century. The Pentagon plans to operate them until 2070, and is already pursuing technology upgrades to assure they will always "overmatch" adversaries (to use a favored term of Pentagon jargon).
Even without the upgrades, F-35 out-performs other fighters in the U.S. fleet. It defeats adversary aircraft in exercises by a 20-to-1 margin, it accomplishes a broader array of tasks, and it is easier to maintain. By some measures, it is the most reliable tactical aircraft in the joint fleet.
But there was a time, not so long ago, when the fate of the F-35 was far from certain. The program was conceived during the early years of the Clinton Administration, when the collapse of the Soviet Union had undercut any sense of urgency about investing in future military technology.
Determined to wring a "peace dividend" from the demise of communism, officials loaded up what was then called the Joint Strike Fighter with a slew of performance requirements so they could avoid buying other things.
The fighter had to be nearly invisible to enemy radars. It had to provide pilots with unprecedented situational awareness. It had to collect and process vast amounts of intelligence. It had to be securely networked to other military aircraft. It had to meet the distinctly different needs of three separate military services.
And oh by the way, it also had to be affordable--bending the cost curve that previously drove up the price-tag of each new generation of fighters.
Nobody had ever before tried to combine all those features in a single military aircraft. At the program's inception, it seemed possible that nobody could. But Lockheed Martin led an industry team that satisfied all of the "key performance parameters," and confounded analysts by delivering each new production lot at a lower cost per plane than the Pentagon had projected.
Pratt & Whitney, the company that won the contract to provide each fighter's engine, delivered a propulsion system that combined unprecedented thrust, flexibility, and even stealth.
Both of these companies, and several others supporting them, gave money to my think tank, so I secured a front-row seat for the agony they felt each time Congress threatened to scale back the program or kill it entirely.
Lawmakers had reason to doubt good-news accounts of how the program was faring, because the technical demands were so imposing that success was uncertain.
But success is what the companies ultimately delivered. A flight-test regime of over 9,000 sorties proved Lockheed and Pratt had met performance goals, and once that was demonstrated they turned to refining sustainment practices to keep the fighters affordable across a 50-year service life.
The sustainment challenge continues to be worked, but once you grasp the functionality each fighter delivers, it looks like a bargain even if it costs more to maintain than a legacy fighter. After all, what is it worth to America to defeat Chinese pilots 19 times out of 20 in a future conflict?
So now the F-35 really is poised to be everywhere that matters, from Finland to Italy to Poland to Israel to Australia to Japan. Sixteen countries are buying it or have expressed an intention to do so, and other countries will reportedly join the community of users in the near future.
F-35 is, by any reasonable standard, a smashing success. It is one of the greatest technological achievements of this generation.
However, there is nothing "sudden" about the increasing ubiquity of the F-35. It required two decades to get to this point, and a domestic political system that was willing to set aside partisanship for the sake of national security.
If anyone tells you Washington can't get big things done anymore, remind them of the F-35--a program that Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden have all agreed needed to be kept on track.
Today, the F-35 fighter thrives as an example of what discipline and innovation can accomplish despite the naysayers, and despite the frictions of a contentious political culture.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthomp...
If the F-35 fighter was a normal Pentagon program, this July would look like a landmark month of spectacular successes. Instead, it is shaping up to be a fairly typical month in the recent history of the world's biggest weapons project.
Greece disclosed that it wanted to buy 20 of the multirole fighters, and maybe twice that number. The Czech Republic revealed that it wanted 24.
The government of South Korea announced it would increase the size of its planned F-35 fleet by 50%, to 60 aircraft.
And news out of the Farnborough Air Show was that the Pentagon and airframe integrator Lockheed MartinLMT 0.0% had reached agreement on the next three production lots of F-35, with the aim of buying 375 fighters in three versions for the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and various overseas partners.
Meanwhile, F-35 pilots, of whom 1,700 have been trained, continued to fly training and operational missions, having accumulated well over half a million flight hours.
In the Baltic region, U.S. F-35s flying out of Estonia supported regional air defense. In the Mediterranean, they flew from Souda Bay on Crete to train with Greece's air force. In Northeast Asia, they conducted exercises with the F-35s of South Korea's air force.
Elsewhere in the Pacific, sea-based F-35s participated in Pacific Rim exercises off Hawaii, and Australia announced that it had stood up the first full-service depot for maintaining F-35 engines in the Indo-Pacific--organized to support the 100 F-35s Canberra is buying plus those of Japan, South Korea, and U.S. services operating in the region.
Remember, I'm just talking about July, and the month isn't over.
F-35 is fast becoming the most ubiquitous tactical aircraft in the world, the fighter every friend wants and every enemy fears.
With 830 fighters delivered and thousands more to come--the U.S. alone plans to buy 2,456--it seems that F-35 will define what air dominance means through mid-century. The Pentagon plans to operate them until 2070, and is already pursuing technology upgrades to assure they will always "overmatch" adversaries (to use a favored term of Pentagon jargon).
Even without the upgrades, F-35 out-performs other fighters in the U.S. fleet. It defeats adversary aircraft in exercises by a 20-to-1 margin, it accomplishes a broader array of tasks, and it is easier to maintain. By some measures, it is the most reliable tactical aircraft in the joint fleet.
But there was a time, not so long ago, when the fate of the F-35 was far from certain. The program was conceived during the early years of the Clinton Administration, when the collapse of the Soviet Union had undercut any sense of urgency about investing in future military technology.
Determined to wring a "peace dividend" from the demise of communism, officials loaded up what was then called the Joint Strike Fighter with a slew of performance requirements so they could avoid buying other things.
The fighter had to be nearly invisible to enemy radars. It had to provide pilots with unprecedented situational awareness. It had to collect and process vast amounts of intelligence. It had to be securely networked to other military aircraft. It had to meet the distinctly different needs of three separate military services.
And oh by the way, it also had to be affordable--bending the cost curve that previously drove up the price-tag of each new generation of fighters.
Nobody had ever before tried to combine all those features in a single military aircraft. At the program's inception, it seemed possible that nobody could. But Lockheed Martin led an industry team that satisfied all of the "key performance parameters," and confounded analysts by delivering each new production lot at a lower cost per plane than the Pentagon had projected.
Pratt & Whitney, the company that won the contract to provide each fighter's engine, delivered a propulsion system that combined unprecedented thrust, flexibility, and even stealth.
Both of these companies, and several others supporting them, gave money to my think tank, so I secured a front-row seat for the agony they felt each time Congress threatened to scale back the program or kill it entirely.
Lawmakers had reason to doubt good-news accounts of how the program was faring, because the technical demands were so imposing that success was uncertain.
But success is what the companies ultimately delivered. A flight-test regime of over 9,000 sorties proved Lockheed and Pratt had met performance goals, and once that was demonstrated they turned to refining sustainment practices to keep the fighters affordable across a 50-year service life.
The sustainment challenge continues to be worked, but once you grasp the functionality each fighter delivers, it looks like a bargain even if it costs more to maintain than a legacy fighter. After all, what is it worth to America to defeat Chinese pilots 19 times out of 20 in a future conflict?
So now the F-35 really is poised to be everywhere that matters, from Finland to Italy to Poland to Israel to Australia to Japan. Sixteen countries are buying it or have expressed an intention to do so, and other countries will reportedly join the community of users in the near future.
F-35 is, by any reasonable standard, a smashing success. It is one of the greatest technological achievements of this generation.
However, there is nothing "sudden" about the increasing ubiquity of the F-35. It required two decades to get to this point, and a domestic political system that was willing to set aside partisanship for the sake of national security.
If anyone tells you Washington can't get big things done anymore, remind them of the F-35--a program that Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden have all agreed needed to be kept on track.
Today, the F-35 fighter thrives as an example of what discipline and innovation can accomplish despite the naysayers, and despite the frictions of a contentious political culture.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthomp...
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Mr.B ::
Jp, Vprašaj se zakaj US, namesto da bi nadgradila na F-35 Block 4 raje kupuje nove F-35 Block 4 ready 
Razmisli kaj se bo zgodilo, ko se bo čez 4 leta, začela modernizacija na Block 5.
Razmisli kaj se bo zgodilo, ko se bo čez 4 leta, začela modernizacija na Block 5. France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Chalky ::
Update: July 1 2022:
Število letal je iz 760 poskočilo na 820 (+60 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1560 poskočilo na 1695
Število ur letenja je iz 480.000 ur poskočilo na 540.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 11680 poskočilo na 12520
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 je iz 9 poskočilo na 10
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Update September 1:
Število letal je iz 820 poskočilo na 840 (+20 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1695 poskočilo na 1755
Število ur letenja je iz 540.000 ur poskočilo na 563.000 ur
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 12520 poskočilo na 12930
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 ostaja pri 10
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- V Avgustu je Lockheed Martin proizvedel kar 15 bojnih letal F-35. Zdaj jih imajo skupaj že 840 in so na željeni poti 900+ ob koncu leta.
- Lockheed Martin pravi, da so se njegovi vzdrževalni stroški F-35 zmanjšali za polovico pričakujejo še dodatnih dodatnih 35 odstotkov.
https://www.airforcemag.com/lockheed-ma...
The Lockheed Martin-controlled portion of the F-35 cost per flying hour, across all users, has fallen 50 percent in the past seven years and should go down another 35 percent in the next five years, assuming a performance-based logistics contract is forthcoming, program officials said.
Število letal je iz 760 poskočilo na 820 (+60 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1560 poskočilo na 1695
Število ur letenja je iz 480.000 ur poskočilo na 540.000 ur.
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 11680 poskočilo na 12520
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 je iz 9 poskočilo na 10
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Update September 1:
Število letal je iz 820 poskočilo na 840 (+20 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1695 poskočilo na 1755
Število ur letenja je iz 540.000 ur poskočilo na 563.000 ur
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 12520 poskočilo na 12930
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 ostaja pri 10
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- V Avgustu je Lockheed Martin proizvedel kar 15 bojnih letal F-35. Zdaj jih imajo skupaj že 840 in so na željeni poti 900+ ob koncu leta.
- Lockheed Martin pravi, da so se njegovi vzdrževalni stroški F-35 zmanjšali za polovico pričakujejo še dodatnih dodatnih 35 odstotkov.
https://www.airforcemag.com/lockheed-ma...
The Lockheed Martin-controlled portion of the F-35 cost per flying hour, across all users, has fallen 50 percent in the past seven years and should go down another 35 percent in the next five years, assuming a performance-based logistics contract is forthcoming, program officials said.
Chalky ::
Nekaj se govori da bi Španija lahko kmalu vstopila v program bojih letal pete generacije F-35.
Margarita Robles quietly finalises the purchase of F-35 fighter jets from the US
https://atalayar.com/en/content/margari...
Zaenkrat zelo skrivnostno vse skupaj. Kot kaže bi lahko imela Španija kmalu močnejše zračne sile kot Franzoci. Je pa zanimivo kako so Španci še leto dni nazaj praktično prisegali da ne bodo kupili bojnih letal F-35 in da bodo kupili Francoske Rafale. Očitno to tudi Španci ugotovili da bodo Rafali čez nekaj let obsolete in da je bolj pametno kupiti F-35. Članek sicer omenja približno 30 kosov čeprav bi bilo za Španijo najbolje da zamena vsa trenutna bojna letala in naroči 80 kosov dveh različnih variacij F-35A in F-35B.
To bi tudi pomenilo da je naslednja država ki se bo priključila programu Portugalska. Jaz računal da bi imeli Španci in Portugalci skupaj vsaj 100 bojnih letal F-35 (Španija 80 in Portugalska 20).
Kot kaže bi lahko Evropa resnično končala z vsaj 1000 bojnimi letali F-35 (če zraven štejem še Turčijo ki je trenutno izuzeta iz programa) ter če bi Nemci naroči 150 bojnih letal F-35.
Tule številke preko katerih bi dosegli 1000 bojnih letal:
Nemčija: 150
Velika Britanija: 134
Italija: 120
Turčija: 100
Španija: 80
Poljska: 64
Norveška: 54
Nizozemska: 46
Švica: 36
Belgija: 34
Grčija: 30
Danska: 27
Češka: 24
Portugalska: 20
Avstrija: 12
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Skupaj: 931
Romunija: ?
Slovaška: ?
Velika verjetnost da bo Grčija naročila še dodatnih 20. Tudi Norveška bi lahko kupila dodatna bojna letala. Italijani bodo zagotovo naročili dodatna letala. Če bi se priključila še Francija in Švedska bi pa gladko presegli 1000 bojnih letal. Si predstavljate če bi bili Rusi del NATA, verjetno bi lahko številka dosegla celo 1500 bojnih letal F-35. Skupaj z ZDA (2400) bi zahod imel okoli 4000 bojnih letal. S tem da Japonske (147), Avstralije (100), Izraela (75), Južna Koreja (60), Singapurja (12-16) ter morda celo UAE (50) nisem štel zraven. Če bi integracija uspela bi lahko bil to dober odpor proti Kitajski, vendar je pot do tja še dolga in se mora poklopiti še kar nekaj stvari.
Margarita Robles quietly finalises the purchase of F-35 fighter jets from the US
https://atalayar.com/en/content/margari...
Zaenkrat zelo skrivnostno vse skupaj. Kot kaže bi lahko imela Španija kmalu močnejše zračne sile kot Franzoci. Je pa zanimivo kako so Španci še leto dni nazaj praktično prisegali da ne bodo kupili bojnih letal F-35 in da bodo kupili Francoske Rafale. Očitno to tudi Španci ugotovili da bodo Rafali čez nekaj let obsolete in da je bolj pametno kupiti F-35. Članek sicer omenja približno 30 kosov čeprav bi bilo za Španijo najbolje da zamena vsa trenutna bojna letala in naroči 80 kosov dveh različnih variacij F-35A in F-35B.
To bi tudi pomenilo da je naslednja država ki se bo priključila programu Portugalska. Jaz računal da bi imeli Španci in Portugalci skupaj vsaj 100 bojnih letal F-35 (Španija 80 in Portugalska 20).
Kot kaže bi lahko Evropa resnično končala z vsaj 1000 bojnimi letali F-35 (če zraven štejem še Turčijo ki je trenutno izuzeta iz programa) ter če bi Nemci naroči 150 bojnih letal F-35.
Tule številke preko katerih bi dosegli 1000 bojnih letal:
Nemčija: 150
Velika Britanija: 134
Italija: 120
Turčija: 100
Španija: 80
Poljska: 64
Norveška: 54
Nizozemska: 46
Švica: 36
Belgija: 34
Grčija: 30
Danska: 27
Češka: 24
Portugalska: 20
Avstrija: 12
-------------------
Skupaj: 931
Romunija: ?
Slovaška: ?
Velika verjetnost da bo Grčija naročila še dodatnih 20. Tudi Norveška bi lahko kupila dodatna bojna letala. Italijani bodo zagotovo naročili dodatna letala. Če bi se priključila še Francija in Švedska bi pa gladko presegli 1000 bojnih letal. Si predstavljate če bi bili Rusi del NATA, verjetno bi lahko številka dosegla celo 1500 bojnih letal F-35. Skupaj z ZDA (2400) bi zahod imel okoli 4000 bojnih letal. S tem da Japonske (147), Avstralije (100), Izraela (75), Južna Koreja (60), Singapurja (12-16) ter morda celo UAE (50) nisem štel zraven. Če bi integracija uspela bi lahko bil to dober odpor proti Kitajski, vendar je pot do tja še dolga in se mora poklopiti še kar nekaj stvari.
fikus_ ::
Francozi se oklepajo Rafale-ov kot pijanc plota, podobno mogoče velja za Švede. Za posamezne EU države je razvoj podobnih modernih letal občutno predrag, tako da je (kot si že pisal) najboljša trenutna varianta, da se cela EU opremi s temi letali in mogoče kasneje dela na svojih.
SLO in HR sta premajhni/premalo denarja za te "igrače", verjetno tudi Slovaki in Romuni, Madžari pa trenutno verjetno niso dovolj zanesljivi za to robo, prav tako Turki.
Kako so pa američani rešili SW težave?
SLO in HR sta premajhni/premalo denarja za te "igrače", verjetno tudi Slovaki in Romuni, Madžari pa trenutno verjetno niso dovolj zanesljivi za to robo, prav tako Turki.
Kako so pa američani rešili SW težave?
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
Mr.B ::
Chalky,
paö noöe priznati, da F35 je nefunkcionalen brez Amerike. Tako da vse dati v isti koü in upati da bomo vedno najboljü prijatelji, je sploh za neodvisno dr#avo nek , no bo #e Chalky povedal.
paö noöe priznati, da F35 je nefunkcionalen brez Amerike. Tako da vse dati v isti koü in upati da bomo vedno najboljü prijatelji, je sploh za neodvisno dr#avo nek , no bo #e Chalky povedal.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
fikus_ ::
Tudi to je res in da f35 komunicira/posilja podatke amerikancem.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
Invictus ::
Plus tega, da ima F-35 najbrž "kill switch", s katerim lahko Američani onesposobijo letalo.
Isto se govori že za F-15 in F-16.
Isto se govori že za F-15 in F-16.
"Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
Chalky ::
Update September 1:
Število letal je iz 820 poskočilo na 840 (+20 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1695 poskočilo na 1755
Število ur letenja je iz 540.000 ur poskočilo na 563.000 ur
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 12520 poskočilo na 12930
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 ostaja pri 10
Update November 1:
Število letal je iz 840 poskočilo na 860 (+20 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1755 poskočilo na 1810
Število ur letenja je iz 563.000 ur poskočilo na 590.000 ur
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 12930 poskočilo na 13250
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 ostaja pri 10
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1. Proizvodnja se je Septembra ustavila zaradi prepovedane zlitine, izdelane na Kitajskem. Oktobra se je proizvodnja nadaljevala kjer so proizvedli 20 bojnih letal. Zdaj ima Lockheed do konca leta še 2 meseca v katerem morajo proizvesti 40 bojnih letal da dosežejo želenih 900 ob koncu leta.
Število letal je iz 820 poskočilo na 840 (+20 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1695 poskočilo na 1755
Število ur letenja je iz 540.000 ur poskočilo na 563.000 ur
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 12520 poskočilo na 12930
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 ostaja pri 10
Update November 1:
Število letal je iz 840 poskočilo na 860 (+20 od zadnje posodobitve)
Število pilotov je iz 1755 poskočilo na 1810
Število ur letenja je iz 563.000 ur poskočilo na 590.000 ur
Število vzdrževalcev je iz 12930 poskočilo na 13250
Število letalskih baz ostaja pri 26
Število operativnih letalonosilk za letala F-35 ostaja pri 10
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1. Proizvodnja se je Septembra ustavila zaradi prepovedane zlitine, izdelane na Kitajskem. Oktobra se je proizvodnja nadaljevala kjer so proizvedli 20 bojnih letal. Zdaj ima Lockheed do konca leta še 2 meseca v katerem morajo proizvesti 40 bojnih letal da dosežejo želenih 900 ob koncu leta.
Invictus ::
F-35, Made in China .
. "Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
fikus_ ::
Svet je bolj povezan kot se zdi na prvi pogled.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
redtech ::
V zadnjem intervjuju je Jim Rickards izjavil, da bi US na Taiwanu (primer napada) najprej uničila tovarne čipov, zato sedaj planirajo nove tovarne čipov v US. Redke kovine pa z veliko večino obvladuje Kitajska.
koyotee ::
blazkj ::
Moja napoved je, da bodo letala najkasneje v naslednjih 10 letih zgodovina vojoške tehnike. Podobno kot so že danes velike ladje, letalonosilke ipd.
Kaj ti bo 1000 F35, če bo npr. kitajec v zrak poslal pol milijona dronov in jih potamnil v pol ure.
Prihodnost je čisto drugje: droni in biologija. Ostalo so izboljšave jedrskega orožja (npr sklopitev z antimaterijo, kar bi zreducirall sevanje praktično na nulo)
Kaj ti bo 1000 F35, če bo npr. kitajec v zrak poslal pol milijona dronov in jih potamnil v pol ure.
Prihodnost je čisto drugje: droni in biologija. Ostalo so izboljšave jedrskega orožja (npr sklopitev z antimaterijo, kar bi zreducirall sevanje praktično na nulo)
koyotee ::
Moja napoved je, da bodo letala najkasneje v naslednjih 10 letih zgodovina vojoške tehnike. Podobno kot so že danes velike ladje, letalonosilke ipd.
Kaj ti bo 1000 F35, če bo npr. kitajec v zrak poslal pol milijona dronov in jih potamnil v pol ure.
Prihodnost je čisto drugje: droni in biologija. Ostalo so izboljšave jedrskega orožja (npr sklopitev z antimaterijo, kar bi zreducirall sevanje praktično na nulo)
Prihodnosti z raznimi rusi,iračani,severnimi korejci,kitajci... sploh ni. Zakaj bi sploh še delal kakršnokoli orožje?
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blazkj ::
Saj pravim biologija, natančneje biotehnologija.
Američani bodo kmalu (oz so že sposobni) izbirsat Rusijo iz obličja zemlja v 200 letih brez, da bodo Rusi sploh vedeli kaj se dogaja. Npr imaš že študije, kjer miši spijejo vode s CRISPR mod., ki povzročijo v naslednjih dneh hitro širjenje aorte. Miš zaradi disekcije umre. Pri človeku bi ta proces lahko trajal tri leta in preden bi država sistemsko zaznala težavo, bi bilo že konec. To lahko prilagodiš na način, da deluje na genome Slovanov, ne pa anglosaxe in si "zmagal". Najbrž ni mogoče biti povsem selektiven, a je good enough.
Ali pa narediš virus, za katerega cepivo imaš samo sam. Lahko celo vnaprej precepiš populacije pod pretvezo kakšne nove nevarnosti (ala korona).
Tukaj se odpirajo možnosti, kjer je že danes omejitev samo še domišlija. Zanimivi časi, ni kaj
Američani bodo kmalu (oz so že sposobni) izbirsat Rusijo iz obličja zemlja v 200 letih brez, da bodo Rusi sploh vedeli kaj se dogaja. Npr imaš že študije, kjer miši spijejo vode s CRISPR mod., ki povzročijo v naslednjih dneh hitro širjenje aorte. Miš zaradi disekcije umre. Pri človeku bi ta proces lahko trajal tri leta in preden bi država sistemsko zaznala težavo, bi bilo že konec. To lahko prilagodiš na način, da deluje na genome Slovanov, ne pa anglosaxe in si "zmagal". Najbrž ni mogoče biti povsem selektiven, a je good enough.
Ali pa narediš virus, za katerega cepivo imaš samo sam. Lahko celo vnaprej precepiš populacije pod pretvezo kakšne nove nevarnosti (ala korona).
Tukaj se odpirajo možnosti, kjer je že danes omejitev samo še domišlija. Zanimivi časi, ni kaj
Invictus ::
V zadnjem intervjuju je Jim Rickards izjavil, da bi US na Taiwanu (primer napada) najprej uničila tovarne čipov, zato sedaj planirajo nove tovarne čipov v US. Redke kovine pa z veliko večino obvladuje Kitajska.
To bi bile redke zemlje, ne kovine.
V redkih zemljah dobiš redke kovine
. "Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
http://goo.gl/2YuS2x
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