OLED TV

Če koga zanima:

LG Display Wins Technology Award at HiVi Grand Prix 2022:
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Zelo ugodna cena: https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/31790007/...

darck je 19. nov 2022 ob 19:53 izjavil:

fpbs je 19. nov 2022 ob 19:08 izjavil:

Zelo ugodna cena: https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/31790007/...

Super cena samo mene pri večina določenih TV je kot prvo vprašanje,kako se televizor obnese pri prikazovanju standardih vsebin saj 99% se gleda še vedno to slabo kvaliteto slike. Seveda vsi boljši HD ponudniki,dobre HD vsebine izgledajo že na vsakem TV dobro ampak to kar se pa pri nas predvaja po programih je pa še vedno slaba slika in za take vsebine mora biti tisti pravi TV.

Imaš vse dobre lastnosti OLEDa. Cenovno je na nivoju LCDejev, in je zagotovo boljši nakup od vseh 50Hz LCDejev in tudi katerega 100Hz modela do 1000€.

Letošnji Hisense OLED modeli so že peta generacija.
Včerajšnja najnižja cena LG OLED42C21 v Avstriji je bila 709€, tako da zagotovo bo cena tudi pri nas februarja, marca kakih 100€ nižja.

kako je stanje 65 OLED cen? :)

issak je 21. nov 2022 ob 10:30 izjavil:

Zdaj se odločam med LG C2 55" (1200€) in Sony A83J 55" (1100€), ali je LG vreden 100€ več? Plusi na Sonyju so mi Google TV in odstranjljiv napajalni kabel, kolikor gledam reviewje naj bi bila po sliki tam tam. Z updatom naj bo A83J podpiral VRR, to je za toliko malo kolikor bom gor igral iger dovolj. Plusi za LG - naj bi imel boljšo sliko in večjo svetilnost. Ampak verjetno bo tudi "slabši" izmed teh dveh bistveno bolje kot 1080p 43" LCD ki ga imam zdaj, tako da malenkost slabše svetilnosti niti opazil nebi. Podnevi ko je svetlo itak ne gledam.

Med tem, ko je A83J še lanski model , je C2 letošnji model z vgrajenim najnovejšim panelom, ki omogoča višjo svetilnost in kar je pomembno večjo odpornost na burn-in. Že samo to je vredno 100€ več. V tem, da ima Sony operacijski sistem Google, ni nobena prednost. WebOs je hitrejši in uporabniku bolj prijazen. LG ima boljšo telekomando z miško in mikrofonom. LG podpira WiFi6, tudi novejši Bluetooth, ima boljši zvok, ima 4x HDMI 2.1 vhode, poleg VRR podpira še FreeSyinc in G Sync, Filmmaker mode, DolbyVision IQ....

LG OLED C2

issak je 21. nov 2022 ob 12:04 izjavil:

> WebOs je hitrejši in uporabniku bolj prijazen
Je kakšen enostaven način za naložiti adfree youtube? Na Android TVju naložim SmartTubeNext APK in to je to, kolikor sem gledal za WebOS je bolj komplicirano in omejeno.
Mikrofon na TVju mi je kvečjemu minus, še na telefonu ne uporabljam asistenta, ne vidim nobene dodane vrednosti v mikrofonu na daljincu TV.
Wifi6 me ne gane, ker imam Ethernet, in nimam Wifi6 ruterja, tudi z novejšim bluetoothom nevem kaj početi na TVju.
> ima boljši zvokskozi vgrajene zvočnike ali skozi zunanje (3.5mm jack)?
> ima 4x HDMI 2.1 vhode
Načeloma potrebujem enega, ampak ja, več je prednost, Sony ima 2, kar mi je povsem dovolj.
> poleg VRR podpira še FreeSyinc in G Sync
Ok tole je prednost, čeprav ne vem točno kaj je razlika med "VRR" in Freesync, kolikor razumem je Freesync le AMDjev trademark.
> Filmmaker mode, DolbyVision IQ
Izgleda zanimivo, ali Sony ne zna izklopiti image processinga?

Napisal sem ti, kaj ima LG več in bolje, če ti to ni pomembno, potem vzemi Sony.

Med B in C serijo je vedno razlika.Že par let

fpbs je 23. nov 2022 ob 10:05 izjavil:

streki je 22. nov 2022 ob 18:37 izjavil:

Med B in C serijo je vedno razlika.Že par let

Ta razlika je že vseskozi. Najboljši paneli so vgrajeni v G modelih, srednja kvaliteta v C in najslabši v B in A. Enako je tudi pri Philipsu, modeli 706 in 707 imajo vgrajen slabši panel, kot modeli 806 in 807.

Letošnji OLED 707 ima vgrajen enak panel kakor lanski model 806 s tem, da ima 707 nekoliko boljše procesiranje slike.

@fpbs

Nekaj mi ni jasno.. Kako potem Philips dosega boljše rezultate od Lg-ja, pa tudi od nekaterih drugih, če pa ima po tvoje manj kvalitetne panele..?? Samo nekaj zaključnih mislih iz testov..

Conclusion

Overall Philips OLED807 delivers great picture quality that is affordable and it once again underlines the point that the WOLED panel is a guarantee for great picture - although it may require a few tweaks to picture settings. If not for the launch of QD-OLED TVs this year, Philips OLED807 would be one of the best TVs available on the market. QD-OLED offers a little extra in peak brightness and color - but is not perfect either - that puts them slightly ahead of WOLED, but QD-OLED is also more expensive.

Verdict

While it still takes a little more effort than it should to get the OLED807 performing at its best, it's effort that's well worth making. On performance terms it's right up there with the very best in class, surpassing them in areas such as punch, sharpness and shadow detail, and yet it costs a fair bit less and is likely to do so all the way through its lifespan.

Those chasing gaming tech specs and a more hassle-free experience will be better served by an LG C2, but if you're prepared to make a little bit of effort, the OLED807 will reward you with an exceptional performance.



Final Thoughts

In the 48OLED807, Philips has made a TV packed full of features for TV, film fans and avid gamers, delivering impressive picture quality and good sound for its size.

It's not as bright as expected in terms of its HDR performance, but Philips processing makes up the difference by intelligently highlighting bright spots. Gaming isn't as fast out of the box as with other sets, but this TV will appeal to gamers with its VRR and Dolby Vision Game mode support, while smarts are provided by Android, ensuring it covers all the bases.

Ambilight is the cherry on top, offering an experience you can't get anywhere else. This is a 4K OLED that puts in an excellent all-round performance, although - at the time of review - it comes at a premium over the LG OLED48C2.

andrej69 je 24. nov 2022 ob 08:56 izjavil:

Nekaj mi ni jasno.. Kako potem Philips dosega boljše rezultate od Lg-ja, pa tudi od nekaterih drugih, če pa ima po tvoje manj kvalitetne panele..?? Samo nekaj zaključnih mislih iz testov..
Overall Philips OLED807 delivers great picture quality that is affordable and it once again underlines the point that the WOLED panel is a guarantee for great picture - although it may require a few tweaks to picture settings. If not for the launch of QD-OLED TVs this year, Philips OLED807 would be one of the best TVs available on the market. QD-OLED offers a little extra in peak brightness and color - but is not perfect either - that puts them slightly ahead of WOLED, but QD-OLED is also more expensive.

Verdict

While it still takes a little more effort than it should to get the OLED807 performing at its best, it's effort that's well worth making. On performance terms it's right up there with the very best in class, surpassing them in areas such as punch, sharpness and shadow detail, and yet it costs a fair bit less and is likely to do so all the way through its lifespan.

Those chasing gaming tech specs and a more hassle-free experience will be better served by an LG C2, but if you're prepared to make a little bit of effort, the OLED807 will reward you with an exceptional performance.
Final Thoughts
In the 48OLED807, Philips has made a TV packed full of features for TV, film fans and avid gamers, delivering impressive picture quality and good sound for its size.
It's not as bright as expected in terms of its HDR performance, but Philips processing makes up the difference by intelligently highlighting bright spots. Gaming isn't as fast out of the box as with other sets, but this TV will appeal to gamers with its VRR and Dolby Vision Game mode support, while smarts are provided by Android, ensuring it covers all the bases.
Ambilight is the cherry on top, offering an experience you can't get anywhere else. This is a 4K OLED that puts in an excellent all-round performance, although - at the time of review - it comes at a premium over the LG OLED48C2.

Andrej samo par vrstic in slika nad tem odstavkom ki si ga prilepil:Overall Philips OLED807 delivers great picture quality... nakazuje na to, da Philips vgrajuje panele slabše kakovosti:
"Our sample of OLED807 did not have perfect panel homogeneity in the darkest tones of the picture and we also noticed a red tint in the left side of the panel, as seen in our long-exposure photos below. It was not really an issue in day-to-day use but WOLED in general still leaves room for improvement."
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php...

In še za model 48OLED807, ki je iz drugega reviewa: https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/...
si pozabil zapisat:
Not as bright as expected
LG OLED better overall for gaming
Remote can be frustrating

@fpbs

To nič ne nakazuje, da bi imel slabši panel od konkurence.. To je težava nasploh WOLED panelov..! Sicer pa si lahko prebereš večino testov, in povsod je Philips boljša izbira od Lg-ja.. Saj sem ti že napisal, dokler bo Danny Tack pri Philipsu skrbel za razvoj Philips televizorjev, Lg vsekakor ne bo konkurenčen Philipsu.. Posebej ne kar se tiče LED televizorjev;-)

It was not really an issue in day-to-day use but WOLED in general still leaves room for improvement."

Se pravi da potem raje C1, ki ima panel višje kvalitete za 2021 predvidevam. Je pa dejansko še C1 cenejši za 50€ od B2 (ista velikost). Razlika je med priključki, zvokom, v prid C1 ter novejšim procesorjem (čeprav nižjega ranga) in Web OS sistemom v prid B2. Pa mislim da je B2 manj odseven kolikor sem uspel malo raziskati, vse ostalo so zanemarljive razlike med njima baje.

C1 it is then

Kar večina jih priporoča LG B2 če je prostor bolj svetel in se gleda SDR vsebine saj ima televizor višjo svetilnost tudi zanimivo,da je na RTINGS dobil vsepovsod boljšo oceno B2. https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare...

fpbs je 24. nov 2022 ob 14:44 izjavil:

andrej69 je 24. nov 2022 ob 10:18 izjavil:

To nič ne nakazuje, da bi imel slabši panel od konkurence.. To je težava nasploh WOLED panelov..! Sicer pa si lahko prebereš večino testov, in povsod je Philips boljša izbira od Lg-ja.. Saj sem ti že napisal, dokler bo Danny Tack pri Philipsu skrbel za razvoj Philips televizorjev, Lg vsekakor ne bo konkurenčen Philipsu.. Posebej ne kar se tiče LED televizorjev;-)

To ni splošna težava WOLEDov, ampak dokaz da Philips nabavlja slabšo kvaliteto panelov, ali ceneja kupuje kakšne stare zaloge, in prav v nbobenem primeru ni Philips boljši nakup od LGeja.

"The Philips 55OLED856 TV uses the same Oled panel as the Philips 55OLED805 from last year. There are therefore four white, blue, red and green sub-pixels. The blue and green sub-pixels are fairly thin stick-shaped while the red sub-pixel is larger in order to support a higher peak brightness while maintaining a color temperature close to 6500K. Unlike others manufacturers, Philips has been offering the exact same structure for 4 years now."

Kaj daješ nekakšne stare citate.. Si kot otrok, ki mu ne moreš nič dopovedati.. Moram se popravit, še nekaterim otrokom je lažje razložiti določene zadeve;-) Dejstvo je, kar potrjujejo tudi določeni testi, da je Philps definitivno boljši nakup kakor pa Lg.. Tukaj govorim predvsem kar se tiče kvalitete slike. Česa tu ne razumeš..?? Še nekaj citatov iz testov.

Overall Philips OLED807 delivers great picture quality that is affordable and it once again underlines the point that the WOLED panel is a guarantee for great picture – although it may require a few tweaks to picture settings. If not for the launch of QD-OLED TVs this year, Philips OLED807 would be one of the best TVs available on the market. QD-OLED offers a little extra in peak brightness and color – but is not perfect either – that puts them slightly ahead of WOLED, but QD-OLED is also more expensive.


While it still takes a little more effort than it should to get the OLED807 performing at its best, it’s effort that’s well worth making. On performance terms it’s right up there with the very best in class, surpassing them in areas such as punch, sharpness and shadow detail, and yet it costs a fair bit less and is likely to do so all the way through its lifespan.

Those chasing gaming tech specs and a more hassle-free experience will be better served by an LG C2, but if you’re prepared to make a little bit of effort, the OLED807 will reward you with an exceptional performance.


LG C2

This mid-range LG OLED model also uses a mid-bright ‘Evo’ panel, and takes on all comers with its gaming abilities thanks to its collection of four full HDMI 2.1 and peerless gaming-related features. It doesn’t sound as powerful as the Philips 55OLED807, though, and while its pictures are beautifully refined, the Philips set delivers a little more raw impact.



You want the strike the best size/OLED images balance possible This sort of money can’t currently buy you a more capable OLED TV where picture performance is concerned

You’re expecting all the hard work to be done for you Set some time aside to thoroughly investigate the OLED807’s set-up menus if you want to know what it’s capable of



The 55OLED807 betters its already illustrious predecessor in every way. Its pictures are more natural without losing Philips’ trademark punch, it sounds better than many TVs costing way more, it supports all the latest gaming as well as video features, and it looks a million dollars in its Ambilight suit. All for a price that’s ridiculously good value for what’s on offer.
There’s no OLED TV around for the 55OLED807’s money that can serve up richer, punchier pictures. Its design is remarkably high-end for such an affordable set too, and it sounds way richer and more powerful than you’ve any right to expect from such a slender chassis.

Potem,če počaka kak mesec je bolje da vzame že C2 kateri je pa boljši kakor B2 z bilo kakim panelom saj ima boljši procesor

mAXTER je 24. nov 2022 ob 09:46 izjavil:

Za isto ceno vzeti 65" LG Oled C1 ali 65" LG Oled B2?

Morda 65C2 za 1600 pri makspro. Toda C2 ima evo panel in na 65 col so problemi s pink tint zaradi česar nekateri izgubljajo živce.
Je tudi varianta 65CS9 ki nima evo panela a ima procesiranje od C2.

Nikonja je 25. nov 2022 ob 12:08 izjavil:

Zanima me ali Andrej69 ima sklenjen poseben dogovor s Slotechom po 17 členu pravilnika, ker je več kot očitno da dela za Philips, ali distributerja, in otkrito konstanto reklamira Philips in onemogoča normalno debato ostalih uporabnikov??? Nima smisla da negira da je plačen za to ker že leta smeti vsako TV temo in brez osnove hvali samo Philips in pljuva vse ostalo.

Kje pa jaz onemogočam debate ostalih uporabnikov..?? Saj lahko vsak poda svoje mnenje in ostale zadeve, tako, da te prosim da si saj malo objektiven.! Kar pa se tiče hvale Philpsa je tako, da je Philips eden izmed najbolj kvalitetnih televizorjev, in zato ga pač več ali manj priporočam.. Philips je letos postavil letvico zelo visoko, katero marsikateri proizvajalec več ne doseže;-) Ne pljuvam pa po ostalih kakor si ti zopet napisal, temveč napišem določena dejstva..

scipascapa je 25. nov 2022 ob 13:37 izjavil:

andrej69: a nehaš že, prosim.

Ne bom nehal dokler bodo drugi tako pametovali..!

Pa ne vem zakaj se tako nekaj omenja tiste tint barve pri OLED TV a pri vseh kateri so ga testirali niso imeli teh problemov in je zgledalo v redu. Je pa bilo omenjeno,da imajo LG OLED televizorji barve da jih vleče na rdeče in recimo pri Sony pa jih vleče na želeno ,če se mi ne zdi. Pri TV je važno vsaj zame,da ko imaš cel ekran v eni barvi recimo zelo svetli ali sivi,da je čez celo ekran ista barva.

fpbs je 25. nov 2022 ob 21:18 izjavil:

andrej69 je 25. nov 2022 ob 12:15 izjavil:

Kar pa se tiče hvale Philpsa je tako, da je Philips eden izmed najbolj kvalitetnih televizorjev, in zato ga pač več ali manj priporočam.. Philips je letos postavil letvico zelo visoko, katero marsikateri proizvajalec več ne doseže;-) Ne pljuvam pa po ostalih kakor si ti zopet napisal, temveč napišem določena dejstva..

Daj ti to letvico malo argumentiraj, kdo jo ne dosega?

Še vedno čakam, da napišeš določena dejstva, ki potrjujejo to zelo visoko letvico, ki jo je postavil Philips.

Ugodna cena: https://www.makspro.si/oled-tv-sprejemn...