3. teden trumpove administracije

jype je 15. feb 2017 ob 23:39 izjavil:

Colt1911> zakaj hudiča bi bili mi zavezniki z ZDA?

Ker imamo podobne vrednote (tako Madisonov Bill of Rights kot European Convention on Human Rights se v svojih izhodiščih močno opirata na koncepte, ki jih je vpeljala britanska Magna Carta).

Američani imajo Savdsko za zaveznike pa nimajo skupnih moralnih vrednot, danes obstajajo samo zavezniki ki ti omogočajo trade in survival..

Je pa lepo če je free speech skupna vrednota...

jype je 16. feb 2017 ob 01:41 izjavil:

Scaramouche> Je pa lepo če je free speech skupna vrednota...

V Savdski Arabiji to imajo?

seveda ne, moja poanta je da ti iščeš zaveznike, medtem se pa danes samo išče kjer najdeš nove ekonomske prilike, ne gleda na to da nimaš skupnih vrednot...

jype je 16. feb 2017 ob 02:28 izjavil:

No, EU in ZDA imata skupne vrednote, zato sta zaveznici. Trump jih sicer ne deli, a njega itak nihče ne mara, že v ZDA nikomur ni všeč.

To je res, in rad bi da se povežemo v skupen trg!
Glede Trumpa, je pa očitno da je zmagal ker je večini to pasalo...

Looooooka je 15. feb 2017 ob 23:22 izjavil:

Bla bla. Zadnja stvar, ki so jo hoteli je Hillary. Pa btw vidim, da vas polovica kot vir uporablja CNN polovica pa Fox. Ni čudno, da so vaše statistike in "dejstva" čisto nasprotje.
S takimi viri ne boste prišli nikamor....tako kot ne bodo nikaor prišli republikanci in demokrati :)

Ali pa komedijanti tipa Colbert pa Oliver. Top shit je ko folk dobi svoj fix novic od komedijantov pol se pa pejd.

Tole si pa najbrž spregledal
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...

ali pa recimo tole
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...

That's down a point from the previous week and down two points from the week before that which was the highest level of optimism in over 12 years of regular surveying. By comparison, the weekly finding was in the mid- to upper 20s for much of 2016.

zmaugy je 15. feb 2017 ob 19:07 izjavil:

Definitivno moramo več vlagat v vojsko. V dogovoru z ostalimi članicami EU.

Hvala Trump, raziskovanje vesolja zopet prestavljeno za kakšno dekado.

Smrekar1 je 16. feb 2017 ob 09:42 izjavil:

juroz je 16. feb 2017 ob 09:26 izjavil:

Tole si pa najbrž spregledal
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...

ali pa recimo tole
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...

That's down a point from the previous week and down two points from the week before that which was the highest level of optimism in over 12 years of regular surveying. By comparison, the weekly finding was in the mid- to upper 20s for much of 2016.

Celo Rassmusen, zgodovinsko najbolj prorepublikanska agencija za raziskave javnega mnenja, je opazila statistično signifikanten padec podpore Trumpu od zaprisege do danes.

sem ti malo poboldal.

Možnosti da vsak vleče vire svoje opcije, kjer nobena nima čisto prav, ocenjujem na 100%.
Možnosti da ima trump celo prav ko kritizira medije da zavajajo ter lažejo tudi ocenjujem na 100%.
Razlika je samo da se nekateri zavedamo da obe strani zavajata ter lažeta, nekateri pa raje tiščijo glavo v pesek. Nič novega.

ps: bannon al rusi? al obojni?

WSJ, libtard glasilo :D, ki je bilo zadnje dni v novicah zaradi uredniške politike do Trumpa,

https://www.buzzfeed.com/stevenperlberg...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/busi...

potrjuje navedbe ultrakonzervativnega libtarda Schindlerja.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/spies-keep...

U.S. intelligence officials have withheld sensitive intelligence from President Donald Trump because they are concerned it could be leaked or compromised, according to current and former officials familiar with the matter.

The officials’ decision to keep information from Mr. Trump underscores the deep mistrust that has developed between the intelligence community and the president over his team’s contacts with the Russian government, as well as the enmity he has shown toward U.S. spy agencies.

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A White House official said: “There is nothing that leads us to believe that this is an accurate account of what is actually happening.”

A spokesman for the Office of Director of National Intelligence said: “Any suggestion that the U.S. intelligence community is withholding information and not providing the best possible intelligence to the president and his national security team is not true.”

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The officials emphasized that they know of no instance in which crucial information about security threats or potential plotting has been omitted. Still, the misgivings that have emerged among intelligence officials point to the fissures spreading between the White House and the U.S. spy agencies.

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The current and former officials said the decision to avoid revealing sources and methods with Mr. Trump stems in large part from the president’s repeated expressions of admiration for Russian President Vladimir Putin and his call during the presidential campaign for Russia to continue hacking the emails of his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

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A person close to Mr. Trump said he was reluctant to let go of Mr. Flynn because Mr. Flynn had vigorously supported him at a stage of his presidential campaign when few people did. Mr. Trump also felt Mr. Flynn did nothing wrong in his conversations with the U.S. ambassador to Russia and had good intentions.

“They both continue to support each other,” this person said.

For intelligence veterans, who had hoped that Mr. Trump’s feud with the agencies might have subsided, Wednesday’s comments renewed and deepened concerns.

“This is not about who won the election. This is about concerns about institutional integrity,” said Mark Lowenthal, a former senior intelligence official.

“It’s probably unprecedented to have this difficult a relationship between a president and the intelligence agencies,” Mr. Lowenthal said. “I can’t recall ever seeing this level of friction. And it’s just not good for the country.”

Bannon ni več aktualen?

Evropejci vohunimo za Američani. Kot kaže tudi v Ameriki :D

http://europe.newsweek.com/allies-inter...

As part of intelligence operations being conducted against the United States for the last seven months, at least one Western European ally intercepted a series of communications before the inauguration between advisers associated with President Donald Trump and Russian government officials, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The sources said the interceptions include at least one contact between former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and a Russian official based in the United States.(...) The sources said the intercepted communications are not just limited to telephone calls: The foreign agency is also gathering electronic and human source information on Trump’s overseas business partners, at least some of whom the intelligence services now consider to be agents of their respective governments.

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Moreover, a Baltic nation is gathering intelligence on officials in the Trump White House and executives with the president’s company, the Trump Organization, out of concern that an American policy shift toward Russia could endanger its sovereignty, according to a third person with direct ties to that nation’s government.

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The Western European intelligence operations began in August, after the British government obtained information that people acting on behalf of Russia were in contact with members of the Trump campaign. Those details from the British were widely shared among the NATO allies in Europe. The Baltic nation has been gathering intelligence for at least that long, and has conducted surveillance of executives from the Trump Organization who were traveling in Europe.

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Some details about Trump’s business partners were passed to the American government months ago. For example, long before the president’s inauguration, German electronic surveillance determined that the father of Trump’s Azerbaijani business partner is a government official who laundered money for the Iranian military; that information was shared with the CIA, according to a European source with direct knowledge of the situation.

Of equal concern to our allies is Trump’s business partner in the Philippines, who is also the special representative to Washington of that country’s president, Rodrigo Duterte.

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While nothing improper has been detected, the Baltic nation also launched an investigation by its intelligence service into the relationship between Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and his longtime personal friend, Igor Sechin, the head of the Kremlin-controlled oil company Rosneft.

Scaramouche je 15. feb 2017 ob 22:25 izjavil:

ROFLMAO! A to je še en izmed tistih "alternative facts", ki jih nekateri tako zelo obožujejo.

Slika je namreč iz Zahodnega brega, zid pa je zgradil Izrael: http://www.vtjp.org/background/Separati...

Pa kje se najdete folk, da nasedete čisto vsakem internetnem memu?

Trumpy ima tiskovko, menda je riot



Potrjujem. Je riot. Predsednikov ego ima bubu.

Pravkar je insinuiral, da se vsi črnci poznajo.

Samo za pokušino, 26s odlomek

https://twitter.com/Darren32895836/stat...

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll, Thursday, February 16, 2017:

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-five percent (45%) disapprove."

Bolj so njegovi nasprotniki besni in delajo nemir, bolj je normalnim ljudem jasno, da ga je bilo pravilno izvolit, vsak nadaljni protest to samo še potrjuje.

jype je 17. feb 2017 ob 01:19 izjavil:

Možgani ljudi, ki so volili za Trumpa, niso sposobni prepoznavati vzorcev.

Podcenjevanje Trumpa je bili eden iz med razlogov, zakaj je zmagal, v poliki je namreč najboljše, če te nasprotniki podcenjujejo!
Demokrati so edini osel, kateri je šel dvakrat na led, prvo Bush in zdaj Trump, niso se izučili in so ponovili vse napake iz leta 2000.

petrus> Zaničevanje polovice volilnega telesa kot obžalovanja vrednega ni bil najbolj pameten korak gospe Clinton, to bi morala prepoznat, če je tako razgledana.

Polovica volilnega telesa ima IQ nižji od 100.

O, desničarji potvarjajo dejstva, kako nepričakovano.

Iatromantis je 16. feb 2017 ob 09:55 izjavil:

zmaugy je 15. feb 2017 ob 19:07 izjavil:

Definitivno moramo več vlagat v vojsko. V dogovoru z ostalimi članicami EU.

Hvala Trump, raziskovanje vesolja zopet prestavljeno za kakšno dekado.

Realno gledano zelo veliko sodobnega raziskovanja vesolja obstaja zato, ker so država iskale način kako poslati eksploziv na druge države.
Veliko vprašanje kdaj bi si kdorkoli vzel čas in denar in izpopolnjeval raketno tehnologijo brez takojšnje vizije poplačila vložka, če ne bi bilo vojaškega motiva.

Malo off, ker je druga tema zaklenjena.
WikiLeaks releases CIA espionage orders for 2012 French presidential election

Pričakujem, da bodo določeni forumski akterji tole strogo obsodili, tako kot so navalili na Ruse. Aja sej neeee, ZDA to lahko počne

jype je 17. feb 2017 ob 01:19 izjavil:

petrus> Bolj so njegovi nasprotniki besni in delajo nemir, bolj je normalnim ljudem jasno, da ga je bilo pravilno izvolit, vsak nadaljni protest to samo še potrjuje.

Možgani ljudi, ki so volili za Trumpa, niso sposobni prepoznavati vzorcev.

E, vidiš sinko, zaradi takih kot si ti je Dolan zmagal.

Lahko bi rekli, Dolan je slab kandidat za svojo volilno bazo ker: ______, _______, ______, ... za posledice imajo njegovi volilci lahko: ______, _______, ______, ... Ampak ne, dajmo zapirat avtoceste, razbijat izložbe in žalit, pretepati vsakega, ki ima različno mnenje od nas. To bo gotovo spremenilo njihovo mišljenje. Prej bi rekel, da možgani SJWjev ne prepoznavajo vzorcev. In dokler bo tako, bo še mnogo Trumpov prišlo na oblast.

Heavy> E, vidiš sinko, zaradi takih kot si ti je Dolan zmagal.

Ker nekateri ne prenesete dejstev in sanjate o politični korektnosti? Žal mi je, ne bo šlo.

Heavy> Ampak ne, dajmo zapirat avtoceste, razbijat izložbe in žalit

Ničesar od tega jaz ne počnem, ampak tebe to ne ustavi, da bi me tega obtožil, kar jasno kaže, kako podporniki Trumpa nimajo nobenega stika z dejstvi. Sami tudi poveste, da vašo percepcijo sveta krojijo mediji, ki hranijo vaše psihiatrične sindrome.

Heavy> To bo gotovo spremenilo njihovo mišljenje.

Spreminjati mišljenje ljudi, ki so mentalno bolni, je neproduktivno, dokler jih strokovno usposobljeno osebje najprej ne pozdravi. To, da verjameš v bullshit kakršen je "imam pravico, da si mislim, da je 2+2=5", realnosti ne spreminja.

Looooooka> Z levicarjem, ki bluzi o pravicah in miru med tem, ko odkrito podpira Clintonove se ne pogovarjat. Ne rabi nobenega testa. Tak clovek je s tem ze priznal, da je idiot.

To drži, ampak na svetu ne obstaja niti en levičar, ki bi podpiral "Clintonove".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...

Donald Trump’s Deputy Assistant has angrily denied being anti-Semitic after he was spotted wearing a military medal associated with Hungarian Nazi sympathisers.

Sebastian Gorka, who is of Hungarian descent but was born and raised in the UK, was pictured wearing the controversial badge at an inaugural ball for Mr Trump and several other events.

According to the LobeLog blog, the medal was given to Mr Gorka’s father by the group Vitezi Rend – meaning Order of Heroes - that consisted of supporters of Miklos Horthy, the former ruler of Hungary, who collaborated with the Nazis during World War Two. The US State Department lists the group as being directed by Nazi Germany.

Order of Vit%C3%A9z @ Wikipedia

In the years leading up to World War II, the Horthy government adopted a strongly pro-German policy, and formally entered the war as an Axis Power on 26 June 1941. When the Hungarian government made efforts to disengage from the war, German troops ousted Horthy and installed a puppet government under Ferenc Szálasi's fascist Arrow Cross Party

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Along with the Arrow Cross Party and other contemporaneous Hungarian organizations, the Order of Vitéz is listed in the U. S. State Department Foreign Affairs Manual and Handbook amongst "Organizations Under the Direction of the Nazi Government of Germany," membership in which is potential grounds for visa ineligibility.

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After World War II, veterans' groups, including members of the Vitéz Order appointed by Horthy, began working to re-establish the Order in exile. By 1953, General vitéz Hugó Sónyi had begun to re-establish the Vitéz Order as an order of chivalry according to traditional statutes. Since 1983, the Vitéz Order has been awarded to individuals who have been defenders of Hungarian national interests and culture. The Captains General of the extant order have been:

HIRH Field Marshal Archduke vitéz József von Habsburg (1959–62)
Colonel General vitéz Kisbarnaki Ferenc Farkas (resigned at age 85)
HIRH Archduke vitéz Joseph Árpád von Habsburg (appointed 1977)

Ta medalja naj bi bila izdana v 70ih, ampak vseeno ni ravno lep look za Trumpovo administracijo.

Zanimivi bi bili tudi komentarji trumpistov s fašistofobijo. V bistvu bi bil zanimiv sam vennov diagram njegovih podpornikov :)

Dype:

To drži, ampak na svetu ne obstaja niti en levičar, ki bi podpiral "Clintonove".

A je Tanja Fajon levičarka? Samo sprašujem.

jype je 17. feb 2017 ob 14:20 izjavil:

Pepca*Kardelj> A je Tanja Fajon levičarka? Samo sprašujem.

Če podpira Clintonove, potem definitivno ni, je pa zelo verjetno, da zgolj nasprotuje fašizmu, ti pa to zmotno interpretiraš kot podporo Clintonovim.

Aha, ja, dype, tako je - u pravu si: (Linque)

jype je 17. feb 2017 ob 14:36 izjavil:

Pepca*Kardelj> Aha, ja, dype, tako je - u pravu si: :)) (Linque)

Churchill podpira Stalina? Levičar?

fake argument, vsi voditelji se bodo na srečanju rokovali, to ni isto kot podpora...

Epic fail!