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Težka bo če si navajen na Adobe :D Alternative si pa že naštel. Če bi razložil zakaj iščeš alternativo in zakaj ostale opcije ki si jih naštel niso vredu, boš prej dobil pravi odgovor ;)

Alternativo iščem ker mi naročniški model ne ustreza, s Corelom delamo v šoli vendar se v njem ne znajdem, pri ostalih se mi vmesnik ne vidi. Pred časom sem sprobal tudi Linux distro za ta multimedijo, je pa tudi žalost, ne podpira gpt, ima nek ločen sistem root/normalni user,pidpora wireless gonilnikom slaba,...

Nah škoda no...

Zadnji letnik srednje računalniške v MS.... nekje 200€ letno, čeprav premišljujem da bi šel v CS6 oziroma celo 5,zelo sem se v tem kratkem času navadil na adobe cc (šola ga je nabavila zaradi oblikovalcev) pa sem pri računalniškem oblikovanju do zdaj delal samo v tem

Kupim Mac Os X, ga namestim na lappy s pentium cpu in radeon grafo in ssdjem. So kakšne strojne in/ali pravne ovire?

Adobe CS5 licenca
Tole kupiš, pa si pokrit for-ever.
drawaback je, da ostaneš na starejši verziji windowsev. Oziroma, ne vem, koliko tisti "compatibility" mode še kej pomaga :)

So bile izboljšave v novejših paketih, samo bang-for-buck mislim, da je tole še vedno dobra opcija dolgoročno gledano.
S tem, da se ti ni treba navajat na drugo programje/ workflow, ter ima Adobe scena (hočeš/nočeš) daleč največjo pokritost, naj bo to iskanje tutorialov, pluginov, delo v kakem studiju, ipd...

Če rabiš samo Photoshop potem vzami Photography plan za 12€ na mesec in imaš mir ter vedno zadnjo verzijo Photoshopa, zraven pa imaš še Lightroom za fotografije.

Še slika programa Serif Affinity Designer:


V določenih funkcijah je bolj podoben CorelDrawu, v nekaterih pa npr. Adobe Illustratorju. V nekaterih pa me spominja na Freehand.

BivšiUser2 je 5. dec 2015 ob 12:31 izjavil:

ta Serif serija ne izgleda slabo, vidim da ima tudi starter edition za free bom sprobal, javim kako je potem tudi kupil, zaenkrat pa hvala
@opeter: to si vzel svojo sliko, ali nekaj random?

Moja slika, zakaj?

Navje je 5. dec 2015 ob 14:00 izjavil:

Jaz ti lahko svetujem samo za resno alternativo InDesignu in sicer QuarkXpress, UI je še kar podoben (no ja do verzije InDesign CS4 za Win okolje je bil skoraj identičen) in "default" bljižnice so skoraj enake kot v InDesignu. Sam sem nekaj let delal na njem, pred davnimi leti ampak to so bile stare verzije (3.4. in 5.) potem sem zamenjal delodajalca in tam se je uporabljal InDesign, takrat prva verzija CS. Od takrat naprej na QuarkXpress-u na žalost nisem več toliko delal, kot sedaj pri vsakodnevni uporabi InDesigna CC.

Se strinjam. Quark je še vedno TOP rešitev.

Če pa je cena problem, potem pa imamo vsaj še eno solidno alternativo: VivaDesigner.
Tu je opis nekaterih lastnosti:
http://www.viva.de/en/products/desktop-...

Ima odlično podporo med drugim tudi za slovenski jezik in brez težav odpira IDML datoteke, ki so standardiziran format za izmenjavo datotek med različnimi verzijami indizajna od verzije CS4 naprej. Predtem je to bil INX format, ki pa je preživet in z novejšimi verzijami nekompatibilen.

@opeter Hvala za malo daljši opis teh programskih paketov.

Se pa vidi, da se spoznaš na te zadeve opeter,ta zbrika serif programov je kar kul ....
Kaj pa je bil vzrok za odpoved posla glede programa?

Glede jezikov mi je vseeno,tako nemščino kot angleščino razumem, če pa rabim šumnike pa rešujem z v-ji.

Lahko kdo kaj več pove o Serif Draw Plus X8? Je zmožen kakšnih večjih projektov.

Sem ga hotel preizkusiti pred nakupom, vendar nimajo trial verzije.

Potrebujem nekaj za Windows. Adobov subscribtion model mi ne diši preveč.

Fairplay je 16. jan 2016 ob 18:04 izjavil:

Lahko kdo kaj več pove o Serif Draw Plus X8? Je zmožen kakšnih večjih projektov.

Sem ga hotel preizkusiti pred nakupom, vendar nimajo trial verzije.

Potrebujem nekaj za Windows. Adobov subscribtion model mi ne diši preveč.

Odvisno od tvojih potreb. Da se napraviti marsikaj.

Obenem je CMYK, Pantone, Lab barvni popolnoma načrt podprt. Odlično odpira PDF datoteke.
Draw Plus je Windows varianta Affinity Designerja.

Če koga zanima, ravno danes prejel spodnje:


Dear Peter,

As you may see being widely reported today, we have just announced that we are bringing our new range of Affinity applications to Windows. You have been a loyal customer to us over the years and I wanted to take some time to explain a little more fully as to why we are doing this, and what it means for the future of Serif software.

It was about 6 years ago now when our Head of Development, Tony Brightman, presented his vision for a new suite of graphics applications. His view was that however good all our existing products were, given the chance to start from scratch the team would be able to create something truly revolutionary.

There were many aspects of the plan, but some of the key fundamentals of the technology were:

- Building a whole new method of memory management, allowing super fast and smooth rendering of massive documents even on small devices like tablets
- Producing a single back-end framework for a whole suite of applications covering the core disciplines of photo editing, vector drawing and desktop publishing
- Significantly improving workflow through each application sharing the same file type and being able to seamlessly switch between them
- Aiming at Mac professionals first, but making much of the code OS independent for future cross platform support
- Using a whole new method of organising UI into personas devoted to different use cases to significantly reduce bloat.

It was a big decision. We are a pretty small company with a fraction of the development resources available to our international competitors, so this was going take a huge chunk of our capacity for a long time. Research and development by its very nature means you don't really know how long something will take, which meant it was somewhat of a gamble too.

But the timing was right for other reasons. We had concerns over some very important areas of the business at that time - particularly with channels such as retail becoming increasingly tough for software - and outside of those channels we felt it to be very important to increase market share in the creative professional market. The fact was, if we were to be taken seriously in that market, we had to be producing applications for Mac too. That basically meant starting the professional versions from scratch anyway. So, we decided to go for it.

It did end up taking longer than originally expected, but after nearly 5 years our first new product was launched - Affinity Designer. This was followed in July last year with the launch of Affinity Photo, and we are also working on a DTP product - Affinity Publisher - which should be out early next year.

The reaction to these products has completely blown all expectations we had out of the water. We won an Apple Design Award in June last year for Affinity Designer, Apple selected Affinity Photo as their best app of 2015 out of 30,000 apps, the write ups we've received in the press have been amazing. And both products have now received 1,000s of customer reviews on the Mac App Store with an average rating of 5 stars worldwide. Sales too have been incredible, Affinity Designer for example has sold five times as many units so far as the last version of DrawPlus.

With all this success we naturally started to very quickly think about how to get Affinity apps onto Windows. While last year we released new versions of PhotoPlus, DrawPlus and PagePlus and put a lot of effort into making them really strong upgrades - the recent reviews of PagePlus X9 are testament to that - in the background we were starting to slowly move more of our team over to work on Affinity for Windows in response to the increasingly vocal demand from new and old customers.

Now, the good news is that our team of Windows developers have made incredible progress with Affinity - and we're now expecting to have the first beta of Affinity Designer available in only 2-3 months' time. Bringing more of our developers over onto the Affinity project has also enabled us to achieve that without compromising progress on the Mac versions, or indeed the on-going development of Affinity Publisher.

But along the way we had to make a big decision. Should we try to spread ourselves thinly across two product ranges, or should we concentrate on developing the one with the most potential to deliver the best results as quickly as possible. Logically there was no contest and we are going to continue to focus our development efforts entirely on Affinity from now on. Unfortunately, this means we will not be releasing another major version of any of our 'Plus' range applications. They will however continue to be available for the foreseeable future and of course we've always had the principle of not charging a subscription so you can continue to use whatever versions you have for many years to come if you wish.

However clear the logic, this is an announcement that has been made with a slightly heavy heart - this is my 22nd year with Serif and some have been here even longer with the majority of us having been here for 10 years or more - so we've all lived and breathed these products for a very long time. But the potential of the Affinity range is huge. We feel we can achieve something which is truly game-changing, so we just have to dedicate ourselves to that now and everyone here is incredibly excited and motivated by that prospect.

Of course we would love you to continue with us on this journey and transition to Affinity as the Windows versions are launched. We will be offering "upgrade" type pricing to help with that - so DrawPlus X8 owners will get a special discounted price for Affinity Designer for Windows, for example, which we will be giving further details of when we launch. Owners of the latest versions of WebPlus and MoviePlus will also be offered a special discount to the Affinity range despite there unfortunately not being any direct replacement for those two products.

As I mentioned we will have a beta of Affinity Designer on Windows available shortly, and we'd also very much like to invite you to take part in that. By signing up here you will be the first to know as soon as the free Windows beta version is available.

Sign up for the free beta now!

I hope this makes sense and you understand our reasoning behind taking this new direction in the future. We wanted to tell you first and to express our gratitude for your part in getting us to this point. And we will keep listening to all feedback, so if you would like to discuss this, or have any questions, we have started this thread on CommunityPlus so please feel free to get involved.

Thanks as always for your support.

All the very best,

Gary Bates
Executive Chairman

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Skratka, kdor hoče sodelovati v beta programu:
https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/window...

Tolko glede audio editinga: http://prntscr.com/ahjexf

dottor je 26. apr 2016 ob 21:25 izjavil:

Meni ne odpre strani, za ogled naročnin oz. nakupa. Ne na kromu ne na edge, mi vrti tiste 4 kvadratke in to je to Razmišljam uzet fotografski paket pa bi si ogledal malo cene.

To misliš za Adobe Creative Cloud?

A si poskusil to stran:
https://creative.adobe.com/plans?store_...

Prikazana stran je vezana na IP, torej, če iz Slovenije, ti bo pokazalo slovenski del Adobejeve strani.

Alternativ je vedno več.
Za vse stvari, ki bodo na spletu je lahko Google Web Designer
Za osnovne bitmap konverzije je Gimp čisto ok. Za obdelavo RAW ali JPG fotografij je tu Silkypix, razen za zahtevnejše delo z slikami (maske, montaže, itd) je še vedno optimalen photoshop.
Za vektorsko grafiko imaš Sketch (žal samo za MAC).

Meni vrti tiste 4 kvadratke v nedogled...

V tem grmu tiči zajec pol

Pač zaradi nadgraditev in novih funkcij gledam preiti iz nelegalnega na legalni PS in LR...

Evo pa smo dočakali:

Affinity Designer for Windows is NOW IN BETA!
Hi Aleksander,

Thank you for signing up to take part in the beta trial of Affinity for Windows. We're delighted to say that the public beta of Affinity Designer for Windows starts today!

Please note that you'll need to be running 64 bit Windows 7 and above to use this beta.
Truly revolutionary...
Built on core principles of performance, stability and lack of bloat, Affinity Designer contains all the tools needed in a professional vector design app, meticulously crafted for professionals.

It's fast, meaning you can pan and zoom at 60fps and see all adjustments, effects, transformations and brushes in real time. It works in any colour space ... RGB, CMYK, LAB, greyscale, and offers end-to-end CMYK workflow with ICC colour management and 16-bit per channel editing.

It's incredibly accurate, allowing you to zoom to over 1 million per cent. And Affinity Designer has the best PSD import engine available with full support for SVG, EPS, PDF, PDF/X and FH files, which means integrating it into workflow is painless.

You can watch a short video summarising the capabilities of Affinity Designer for Windows here:

Get started.
Over the last 18 months we have built up a huge library of video tutorials for Affinity Designer available on Vimeo. The good news is that as the Windows version is nearly identical to our macOS version, and so all the videos are just as useful for Windows users to get started.

We need your help...
We're discussing this at the moment on this forum thread, and on this facebook post so if you have any questions or want to let us know what you think we'd love to hear from you.

It's important to remember the Windows beta version is not the finished article and at this stage it might not work perfectly.

That's why as well as being one of the first Windows users to get their hands on the product, we'd like to invite you to play an important role in its further development.

Affinity Designer in its current form has been shaped with the valuable help of tens of thousands of users who signed up to test the Apple Mac version in beta form. Their contribution played a huge part in it being named as an Apple Design Award winner in 2015.

We now need to repeat that process with our Windows users.

If you want to tell us something about your beta download version of Affinity Designer - perhaps you've spotted a bug, something that needs fixing, or for any other feedback or questions you may have - we've set up a dedicated forum for you to get in touch with us. You can find it here:

Thank you for your support!
We're thrilled that you've decided to come on this journey with us and we look forward to hearing your response. Together, we can make Affinity Designer for Windows the best it can be.

All the best,
The Affinity Team

We're thrilled to announce that the Affinity Photo Windows beta is now available. This means if you're a PC user you can finally get your hands on the app, and during the beta period it's completely free!
Get it free
On Mac, Affinity Photo was chosen as Apple's App of the Year 2015, and voted Best Imaging Software 2016 by the Technical Image Press Association. It has also received thousands of 5-star reviews from professional photographers, editors, artists and retouchers from all around the world.
The Windows version matches the Mac version feature-for-feature, so all the thrilling speed, sophisticated tools and pinpoint accuracy which have earned Affinity Photo its formidable reputation are now available to Windows users too without compromise.

What's more the Windows version shares exactly the same back-end as our Mac version so you can be confident the file compatibility between both platforms will always be 100% perfect.
This beta version even includes some big new features which will be included in version 1.5 (to be released next month) giving you the chance to be among the first to try them out. They include:

HDR merge
Focus stacking
Macros
Tone mapping
Batch processing
360 degree image editing
When we started developing our Affinity apps over 7 years ago one of our key aims was to be cross-platform, so today marks a huge milestone for us. It's been an incredible amount of work to get here, and we really hope you enjoy using Affinity Photo on Windows as much as those already using it on Mac.

The one thing to bare in mind is that it is the first beta version, so there will be some rough edges and bugs to fix. Of course if you wish to help in the development process we'd really appreciate you reporting any issues you find on our beta forum so we can get them fixed. We should work through any problems pretty quickly with new builds coming out at least every week.
If you want to stay in touch with our progress of this, and everything else we are working on here, then it's a good idea to follow us on Twitter or Facebook. We're also more than happy to hear from you through those channels, a well as our forums too.

BivšiUser2 je 17. nov 2016 ob 23:19 izjavil:

Kdo hoče naj kupi do 24.11. Trenutna cena je 40€ (in ni naročnine) + če ste bili beta tester imate še neke dodatke v vrednosti 77€ vključene zastonj.

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