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Mr.B ::
Kaj so razbili ? 3 hleve koz in 2 prazni tovarni gnoja ?
Se vidi da bi zahodni psihopati na vsak način spravili Sirijo na raven Berlina 45, potem ko se po 7 letih s koristnimi idioti na tleh ni obneslo.
Sirijo spraviš na nivo Berlina 45 s tem, da razbiješ 3 hleve koz in 2 prazni tovarni gnoja (v stroki poznano kot dodatna 2 hleva)?
Sej ti je Trumpi rekel, Iran. ISIS bo pa moja tema za volitve ki so , kolikor vem novembra.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Sej ti je Trumpi rekel, Iran. ISIS bo pa moja tema za volitve ki so , kolikor vem novembra.
Fantje, dajte resetirat bota. Tole je žalostno.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Sej ti je Trumpi rekel, Iran. ISIS bo pa moja tema za volitve ki so , kolikor vem novembra.
Fantje, dajte resetirat bota. Tole je žalostno.
Torej si poslušal Trumpov nagovor naciji. Nisi. Samo tri stvari so izstopale Baje, sisi in Iran.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Poldi112 ::
Kaj so razbili ? 3 hleve koz in 2 prazni tovarni gnoja ?
Se vidi da bi zahodni psihopati na vsak način spravili Sirijo na raven Berlina 45, potem ko se po 7 letih s koristnimi idioti na tleh ni obneslo.
Sirijo spraviš na nivo Berlina 45 s tem, da razbiješ 3 hleve koz in 2 prazni tovarni gnoja (v stroki poznano kot dodatna 2 hleva)?
Kaj hočeš reči, da je skrajni čas, da pride bel človek tja in jim prinese civilizacijo?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Pac-Man ::
Nsa_ag3nt pravi "da bi zahodni psihopati na vsak način spravili Sirijo na raven Berlina 45" ter so razbili "3 hleve koz in 2 prazni tovarni gnoja".
Histerijo zganja v dve navskrižni si strani.
Histerijo zganja v dve navskrižni si strani.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Nsa_ag3nt pravi "da bi zahodni psihopati na vsak način spravili Sirijo na raven Berlina 45" ter so razbili "3 hleve koz in 2 prazni tovarni gnoja".
Histerijo zganja v dve navskrižni si strani.
A Sosednje Fašiste si pozabil. On s stanjem nimajo nič.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
nsa_ag3nt ::
Pac-Man
Hoteli so, vendar je AA bila bolj uspešna.
Kaj točno so s tem razbili ni jasno, razen da gre za Trump/Macron/May show, kajti če bi res šlo za skladišča kemijskega orožja, potem bi bile posledice eksplozije slednjega za okolico hude.
Hoteli so, vendar je AA bila bolj uspešna.
Kaj točno so s tem razbili ni jasno, razen da gre za Trump/Macron/May show, kajti če bi res šlo za skladišča kemijskega orožja, potem bi bile posledice eksplozije slednjega za okolico hude.
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five
Pac-Man ::
Um, ne.
left/right je zgoraj/spodaj.
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins
Photos from SANA indicate this building was destroyed in US/French/UK airstrikes, geolocation by @DragonLadyU2
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33.55...
Satellite imagery from @planetlabs 3m resolution satellites show multiple buildings destroyed at Barzah scientific research centre, consistent with photographs of the area. Left, April 13th. Right, April 14th.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33.55...
A wider view of the Barzah scientific research centre showing the change more clearly. Left, April 13th. Right, April 14th. 
That's these three large buildings seemingly destroyed, guess a few of those cruise missiles did get through after all. 
I can't see any other large scale damage in that area on the @planetlabs satellite imagery, but the resolution isn't high enough to make out smaller areas of damage. If anyone else has locations they think were hit, and can provide co-ords, I can look them up on @planetlabs. I've checked Mezzah and Dumayr airbases, but there's no post strike imagery. Couldn't see damage on the presidential palace (but it's low res imagery).
https://twitter.com/marcelvandenber/sta...
Slides of the press briefing showing the three targets
Sladko sanjaj še naprej.
left/right je zgoraj/spodaj.
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins
Photos from SANA indicate this building was destroyed in US/French/UK airstrikes, geolocation by @DragonLadyU2
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33.55...
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33.55...
https://twitter.com/marcelvandenber/sta...
Slides of the press briefing showing the three targets
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/stat...
The day after is for punditry. So below brief-ish thread with my observations about yesterday's punitive strikes against the Assad regime:
The final strike package was bigger than last year's (double the missiles, three targets vs one), but still smaller than what most observers, incl the Assad regime, had predicted. The scope of the attack was narrow - entirely focussed on regime chemical weapons facilities. In interagency terms, that's a win for Pentagon and the "Narrow American Interests"/"Defeat ISIS and Get Out" line of argument. Compared to last year, this was still a lowest common denominator effort - just one step up in scale based on violation/escalation logic.
Military not only concerned about direct confronation/escalation vs Russia, but also about the impact Russian/Assad retribution could have on the US-led counter-ISIS mission ongoing in NE. Increased harassment and disruption in that theater one kind of fallout to watch for. Both Moscow and Damascus have signalled that they understood this and that they're going to swallow the missiles.
Now let's dig a little bit into the actual strikes and how they relate to the Syrian chemical weapons (CW) complex. This is actually quite interesting:
Strikes targetted facilities associated with the core Syrian regime CW program - meaning Sarin and other highly lethal agents that require state-level production infrastructure. Meaning, US kept to post-2013 framework/"red line" interpretation built around to nerve agents. This is notable because April 7 Douma attack - as far as we can tell - did not come out of that tightly controlled complex. It was part of a five years-long campaign built around improvised Chlorine (less lethal choking agent) bombs waged by certain Syrian Air Force factions. As far as we can tell, no unit or facility involved in the type of attacks that likely caused the Douma was targetted.
There's significant incongruency about how "red line" is institutionally conceived and enforced (Sarin) and its political interpretation (mass casualties). Let's make this more complicated and talk about deterrence.
US made it clear they were looking to establish an understanding vis-a-vis Damascus that continued use of CW would incur cost - cowing Bashar to comply. I see little reason to believe this strike would achieve that. I have expounded on this in other context, but it's absolutely clear the Assad regime has little interest in complying on this matter. Not has it persisted in CW use for five years, but it actually worked to reconstitute what offensive capability it had surrendered in 2013.
Damascus finds "red lines" interesting for same reason the Pentagon likes em: They're discrete, predictable, and compartmentalize hostilities away from the actual conflict. For Assad, they're something to push and prod and then drop again - a mechanism to assert sovereignty. If you understand the various competing logics, imperatives, and constraints of US policy in Syria (C-ISIS, C-IRGC, Assad/CW) and how the US tries to compartmentalize them, you see how this deterrence logic around CW implicitly confirms Assad in power.
The reason Damascus got scared last week was because there was a brief moment of speculation, where this could've gone from deterring CW use to degrading the regime's ability to wage and win the kind of war that relies on these weapons - a broader coalition anti-Assad effort. But the US declined to leverage the situation into a wider diplomatic-military initiative.
So the strike package makes more sense: The alternative, degrading the regime's ability to drop Chlorine barrels, would've gone beyond the narrow established deterrence relationship. It would've meant targeting airfields, intelligence facilities, conventional units, workshops etc. But as Trump laid out in his speech (and Macron etc affirmed) - that's not the intent. The goal is to save a little face on CW, "defeat ISIS", and get out.
I'm very very tired and typing this while sitting at the gate before 9h flight. So apologies for the many typos and convoluted logic.
PS: Anybody who in 2018 harps on about a purported "regime change" conspiracy is beyond deluded.
PS²: There's a lot more to be said about thresholds reg Chlorine and Sarin etc. but that's for another day. This strike package was about policy in DC - not outcomes in Syria.
I have internets in the clouds. One more thought: In terms of psychological impact in Syria, the week of waiting and overreaction by trigger-heavy Syrian air defenses probably had a bigger impact than the strikes themselves.
The day after is for punditry. So below brief-ish thread with my observations about yesterday's punitive strikes against the Assad regime:
The final strike package was bigger than last year's (double the missiles, three targets vs one), but still smaller than what most observers, incl the Assad regime, had predicted. The scope of the attack was narrow - entirely focussed on regime chemical weapons facilities. In interagency terms, that's a win for Pentagon and the "Narrow American Interests"/"Defeat ISIS and Get Out" line of argument. Compared to last year, this was still a lowest common denominator effort - just one step up in scale based on violation/escalation logic.
Military not only concerned about direct confronation/escalation vs Russia, but also about the impact Russian/Assad retribution could have on the US-led counter-ISIS mission ongoing in NE. Increased harassment and disruption in that theater one kind of fallout to watch for. Both Moscow and Damascus have signalled that they understood this and that they're going to swallow the missiles.
Now let's dig a little bit into the actual strikes and how they relate to the Syrian chemical weapons (CW) complex. This is actually quite interesting:
Strikes targetted facilities associated with the core Syrian regime CW program - meaning Sarin and other highly lethal agents that require state-level production infrastructure. Meaning, US kept to post-2013 framework/"red line" interpretation built around to nerve agents. This is notable because April 7 Douma attack - as far as we can tell - did not come out of that tightly controlled complex. It was part of a five years-long campaign built around improvised Chlorine (less lethal choking agent) bombs waged by certain Syrian Air Force factions. As far as we can tell, no unit or facility involved in the type of attacks that likely caused the Douma was targetted.
There's significant incongruency about how "red line" is institutionally conceived and enforced (Sarin) and its political interpretation (mass casualties). Let's make this more complicated and talk about deterrence.
US made it clear they were looking to establish an understanding vis-a-vis Damascus that continued use of CW would incur cost - cowing Bashar to comply. I see little reason to believe this strike would achieve that. I have expounded on this in other context, but it's absolutely clear the Assad regime has little interest in complying on this matter. Not has it persisted in CW use for five years, but it actually worked to reconstitute what offensive capability it had surrendered in 2013.
Damascus finds "red lines" interesting for same reason the Pentagon likes em: They're discrete, predictable, and compartmentalize hostilities away from the actual conflict. For Assad, they're something to push and prod and then drop again - a mechanism to assert sovereignty. If you understand the various competing logics, imperatives, and constraints of US policy in Syria (C-ISIS, C-IRGC, Assad/CW) and how the US tries to compartmentalize them, you see how this deterrence logic around CW implicitly confirms Assad in power.
The reason Damascus got scared last week was because there was a brief moment of speculation, where this could've gone from deterring CW use to degrading the regime's ability to wage and win the kind of war that relies on these weapons - a broader coalition anti-Assad effort. But the US declined to leverage the situation into a wider diplomatic-military initiative.
So the strike package makes more sense: The alternative, degrading the regime's ability to drop Chlorine barrels, would've gone beyond the narrow established deterrence relationship. It would've meant targeting airfields, intelligence facilities, conventional units, workshops etc. But as Trump laid out in his speech (and Macron etc affirmed) - that's not the intent. The goal is to save a little face on CW, "defeat ISIS", and get out.
I'm very very tired and typing this while sitting at the gate before 9h flight. So apologies for the many typos and convoluted logic.
PS: Anybody who in 2018 harps on about a purported "regime change" conspiracy is beyond deluded.
PS²: There's a lot more to be said about thresholds reg Chlorine and Sarin etc. but that's for another day. This strike package was about policy in DC - not outcomes in Syria.
I have internets in the clouds. One more thought: In terms of psychological impact in Syria, the week of waiting and overreaction by trigger-heavy Syrian air defenses probably had a bigger impact than the strikes themselves.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Samuel ::
na RT.com prenos tiskovne konference vojske ZDA:
- tarče zadete
- noben tomahawk sestreljen
- sirska obramba streljela večinoma po tem, ko so cilji že bili zadeti
- tarče zadete
- noben tomahawk sestreljen
- sirska obramba streljela večinoma po tem, ko so cilji že bili zadeti
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dexterboy ::
Samuelu ne potegne, da je vse to jamranje o strupih in kršitvah človekovih pravic zgolj smoke and mirrors in da se gre za ekonomske interese. Ko zahod govori o stabilnosti, to pomeni diktator, ki bo omogočil zahodnim firmam trg in profite. Demokracija je tu huda ovira za zahod, saj to, da bi lokalci uporabljali svoje vire za lasten napredek, doživljajo kot hudo kršitev zahodnih demokratičnih vrednot.
No, vzhod isto, ampak fora je, da je zahod močnejši in da smo na zahodu pač oprani s strani zahodne propagande. In nima veze, da se že stoletja dogajajo ene in iste igrice.
Suverenost držav naj bi bila sveta, a je zahod nekako normaliziral idejo, da je naša dolžnost in pravica, da se vtikamo v notranjo politiko držav in menjamo režime. Smešno, da smo Hitlerja nabili na kol, podobnim avanturam UK, USA in FR pa veselo ploskamo. Kje je tu zdrava pamet?
+1 This!
Za nekatere bi bila Matrica odrešitev.
Ko ne gre več, ko se ustavi, RESET Vas spet v ritem spravi.
Samuel ::
Samuelu ne potegne, da je vse to jamranje o strupih in kršitvah človekovih pravic zgolj smoke and mirrors in da se gre za ekonomske interese. Ko zahod govori o stabilnosti, to pomeni diktator, ki bo omogočil zahodnim firmam trg in profite. Demokracija je tu huda ovira za zahod, saj to, da bi lokalci uporabljali svoje vire za lasten napredek, doživljajo kot hudo kršitev zahodnih demokratičnih vrednot.
No, vzhod isto, ampak fora je, da je zahod močnejši in da smo na zahodu pač oprani s strani zahodne propagande. In nima veze, da se že stoletja dogajajo ene in iste igrice.
Suverenost držav naj bi bila sveta, a je zahod nekako normaliziral idejo, da je naša dolžnost in pravica, da se vtikamo v notranjo politiko držav in menjamo režime. Smešno, da smo Hitlerja nabili na kol, podobnim avanturam UK, USA in FR pa veselo ploskamo. Kje je tu zdrava pamet?
+1 This!
Za nekatere bi bila Matrica odrešitev.
A lahko prosim odgovoriš, zakaj se Moldavija ne sme razviti, namesto, da pišeš en kup bedarij?
Zakaj Rusi Moldaviji ne pustijo, da se razvije?
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Mr.B ::
Verjetno so bile te bajte resno prazne, ali pa so uporabili resno nekaj specialnega da je samo toliko uničeno, al pa so spuščali kaj bolj specialnega. Ker če računamo.... 110 raket , tomihix ima 450 kg klasičnega exploziva ... to je 103x450kg je skoraj 50kT exploziva.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Samuel ::
"to je 103x450kg je skoraj 50kT exploziva."
50 tisoč ton eksploziva
50 tisoč ton eksploziva
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Mr.B ::
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Eksploziva je manj. Tole je za JASSM, ki je sicer prenetrator in malo ekstremna v tem smislu. Ima pa znane podatke bojne glave.
AGM-158 JASSM @ Wikipedia
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military...
The production JASSM contains the WDU-42/B (J-1000), a 1000-pound class, penetrating warhead with 240 pounds of AFX-757. AFX-757 is an extremely insensitive explosive developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory/High Explosives Research and Development Facility, Eglin AFB, Florida.
120 kg eksploziva v 500 kg bojni glavi.
Mk83 ima 200 kg eksploziva v 460 kg bombi.
Mark 83 bomb @ Wikipedia
AGM-158 JASSM @ Wikipedia
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military...
The production JASSM contains the WDU-42/B (J-1000), a 1000-pound class, penetrating warhead with 240 pounds of AFX-757. AFX-757 is an extremely insensitive explosive developed by the Air Force Research Laboratory/High Explosives Research and Development Facility, Eglin AFB, Florida.
120 kg eksploziva v 500 kg bojni glavi.
Mk83 ima 200 kg eksploziva v 460 kg bombi.
Mark 83 bomb @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
lynxslo5 ::
Zakaj je Trump napadel Sirijo?
Because (((the deep state))) told him to. And we know what state is deep.
Because (((the deep state))) told him to. And we know what state is deep.
Mr.B ::
Zakaj je Trump napadel Sirijo?
Because (((the deep state))) told him to. And we know what state is deep.
1. Ker bodo Trumpovi novembra popustili na kongresnih volitvah...
2. ker so morlici v Jemnu sofinancirali kampanijo v Siriji, zato da se zmanjša vpliv Irana.
3. ker če odidejo iz Sirije, bodo iranci tisti ki bodo zmagali proti isis.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
In ker lol amerofili nimaš jajc, si pogledati v oči :
Ko pluvate ko govorim da je zgodba iran, no poslušajte uradni nastop
Ko pluvate ko govorim da je zgodba iran, no poslušajte uradni nastop
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Katere iranske inštalacije v Siriji so uničene?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Katere iranske inštalacije v Siriji so uničene?
Odgovor primeren tvojemu mentalnemu dosegu twixic copy paste.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
leiito ::
že ves čas gre za Iran.
Ameriške medije so (((lastniki))) zreducirali na nivo sovjetske harmonije, je pa novost, da prej anti Trumpovske hiše naenkrat zvesto ponavljajo uradno zgodbo, edini anti Trump disident je pa Fox.
Ameriške medije so (((lastniki))) zreducirali na nivo sovjetske harmonije, je pa novost, da prej anti Trumpovske hiše naenkrat zvesto ponavljajo uradno zgodbo, edini anti Trump disident je pa Fox.
Mr.B ::
Počakajmo da bo na Fox news, ter seveda da zadovoljimo Pax mana na twixicu...
Lavrov BOMBSHELL: Swiss Lab confirms "BZ toxin" produced in US or UK used in Salisbury poisoning
Verjento je bil IRan, po navodilih Rusije. Gliha skup štriha.
Lavrov BOMBSHELL: Swiss Lab confirms "BZ toxin" produced in US or UK used in Salisbury poisoning
Verjento je bil IRan, po navodilih Rusije. Gliha skup štriha.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
že ves čas gre za Iran.
Ameriške medije so (((lastniki))) zreducirali na nivo sovjetske harmonije, je pa novost, da prej anti Trumpovske hiše naenkrat zvesto ponavljajo uradno zgodbo, edini anti Trump disident je pa Fox.
Ne dvomim, da lep del ameriške nomenklature želi sesuti Iran in odstraniti Assada. Ampak dejanja kažejo, da iz takšnih in drugačnih razlogov na tem ne delajo prav resno.
Če bi delali na sesutju Irana, bi bombardirali iranske cilje. Izrael na začetku tedna jih je, koalicija to noč ne.
Če bi delali na odstranitvi Assada bi z napadi nadaljevali. Ne bodo. One & done, uporniki so razočarani.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-mide...
Syrian army vows to press war, rebels say strikes not enough
The Syrian opposition said Western strikes on Saturday would not change the course of the seven-year-old war as the army said it would crush remaining rebel parts of the country.
Vse ostalo je rezultat tvoje paranoje, ki je ali ni bolezensko stanje.
Si bom sposodil tuj komentar
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
BREAKING: toxic bullshit produced in Moscow media lab escapes into wild; stupid people most at risk for infection
Poročilo je dobilo 192 držav. Rusija je edina, ki ga tako razume.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Mr.B ::
že ves čas gre za Iran.
Ameriške medije so (((lastniki))) zreducirali na nivo sovjetske harmonije, je pa novost, da prej anti Trumpovske hiše naenkrat zvesto ponavljajo uradno zgodbo, edini anti Trump disident je pa Fox.
Ne dvomim, da lep del ameriške nomenklature želi sesuti Iran in odstraniti Assada. Ampak dejanja kažejo, da iz takšnih in drugačnih razlogov na tem ne delajo prav resno.
Če bi delali na sesutju Irana, bi bombardirali iranske cilje. Izrael na začetku tedna jih je, koalicija to noč ne.
Če bi delali na odstranitvi Assada bi z napadi nadaljevali. Ne bodo. One & done, uporniki so razočarani.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-mide...
Syrian army vows to press war, rebels say strikes not enough
The Syrian opposition said Western strikes on Saturday would not change the course of the seven-year-old war as the army said it would crush remaining rebel parts of the country.
Vse ostalo je rezultat tvoje paranoje, ki je ali ni bolezensko stanje.
Si bom sposodil tuj komentar
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status...
BREAKING: toxic bullshit produced in Moscow media lab escapes into wild; stupid people most at risk for infection
Poročilo je dobilo 192 držav. Rusija je edina, ki ga tako razume.
Potem boš podal link, kjer lahko preberem ta report, glede na to da je poslan 192 državam.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Ni ga, poročilo ima oznako tajnosti.
Počakati bo potrebno, da komu spolzi iz rok.
Počakati bo potrebno, da komu spolzi iz rok.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Ok,
Verjetno so rusi uporabili ta, no fakali vsebino ker ....
BZ is odorless and nonirritating with delayed symptoms several hours after contact
Torej skladno s simptomi...
Verjetno so rusi uporabili ta, no fakali vsebino ker ....
BZ is odorless and nonirritating with delayed symptoms several hours after contact
Torej skladno s simptomi...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
En mesec kome ni med simptomi.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Paxi...
Pass
Važno da sta zdrava, in bosta lahko igrala tenis...
Pass
novichok agents may cause lasting nerve damage, resulting in permanent disablement of victims, according to Russian scientists.[61] Their effect on humans was demonstrated by the accidental exposure of Andrei Zheleznyakov, one of the scientists involved in their development, to the residue of an unspecified Novichok agent while working in a Moscow laboratory in May 1987. He was critically injured and took ten days to recover consciousness after the incident. He lost the ability to walk and was treated at a secret clinic in Leningrad for three months afterwards. The agent caused permanent harm, with effects that included "chronic weakness in his arms, a toxic hepatitis that gave rise to cirrhosis of the liver, epilepsy, spells of severe depression, and an inability to read or concentrate that left him totally disabled and unable to work." He never recovered and died in July 1992 after five years of deteriorating health
Važno da sta zdrava, in bosta lahko igrala tenis...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
In to veš na osnovi česa?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
In to veš na osnovi česa?
No sej vemo, so jih poslali na neznano lokacijo. Da slučajno ne bosta prehitro igrala tenisa.. Pa seveda so se potrudili, vzeti vso dokumentacijo...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Se pravi - nabijaš.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Se pravi - nabijaš.
No ko boš priskerbel resni report, ter resni vir o stanju obeh, se pa oglasi. Prevga ne moreš, ker je zaupen, drugega tudi ne, ker so dokumente no so tudi strogo zaupni.
No počakajmo, ko bo dokumente ne več strogo zaupen, pa bomo videli ali ti s twixici nabijaš, ki jih futrajo troli, ali uradni dokumenti..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Se pravi - nabijaš.
No ko boš priskerbel resni report, ter resni vir o stanju obeh, se pa oglasi.
Ampak ti se oglašaš brez tega? Does not compute...fantje, sem vam rekel, da ga resetirajte.
Važno da sta zdrava, in bosta lahko igrala tenis...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Mr.B ::
Se pravi - nabijaš.
No ko boš priskerbel resni report, ter resni vir o stanju obeh, se pa oglasi.
Ampak ti se oglašaš brez tega? Does not compute...fantje, sem vam rekel, da ga resetirajte.
Važno da sta zdrava, in bosta lahko igrala tenis...
Torej ne moreš. Počak še nekaj časa da bo afera rsukih twit trollow.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Poldi112 ::
Samuelu ne potegne, da je vse to jamranje o strupih in kršitvah človekovih pravic zgolj smoke and mirrors in da se gre za ekonomske interese. Ko zahod govori o stabilnosti, to pomeni diktator, ki bo omogočil zahodnim firmam trg in profite. Demokracija je tu huda ovira za zahod, saj to, da bi lokalci uporabljali svoje vire za lasten napredek, doživljajo kot hudo kršitev zahodnih demokratičnih vrednot.
No, vzhod isto, ampak fora je, da je zahod močnejši in da smo na zahodu pač oprani s strani zahodne propagande. In nima veze, da se že stoletja dogajajo ene in iste igrice.
Suverenost držav naj bi bila sveta, a je zahod nekako normaliziral idejo, da je naša dolžnost in pravica, da se vtikamo v notranjo politiko držav in menjamo režime. Smešno, da smo Hitlerja nabili na kol, podobnim avanturam UK, USA in FR pa veselo ploskamo. Kje je tu zdrava pamet?
+1 This!
Za nekatere bi bila Matrica odrešitev.
A lahko prosim odgovoriš, zakaj se Moldavija ne sme razviti, namesto, da pišeš en kup bedarij?
Zakaj Rusi Moldaviji ne pustijo, da se razvije?
Nimam pojma, kaj se dogaja z Moldavijo, tako da enostavno težko komentiram. Vem pa, kako je USA širila demokracijo po ameriki (kontinentu), Filipinih, bližnjem vzhodu, Vietnamu, ... Vem tudi, kako so Angleži širili demokracijo v Indiji, Kitajski, ... pa Francozi v Vietnamu. In kako so zahodni mediji veselo poročali o tem. Če hočeš, ti lahko napišem na kratko, kako so američani dobrih 100 let nazaj zajadrali v imperializem.
Rusi delajo nekaj štale okoli svojih meja, USA pa po celem svetu. Zato mi za Ruse več ali manj dol visi - ker so globoko v zatonu kot velesila in ker so regionalno precej omejeni. Ter ker za rusko sranje izvemo iz medijev, medtem ko nam ameriško sranje prodajajo kot bonboniero.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
leiito ::
Ni cilj sesuti Iran, niti ne bi bil realen, dejte si tisti diplo cable z wikileaksa prebrat, najbolj logična in prepričljiva razlaga dogajanja je, pa še direkt iz konjevih ust.
Samuel ::
Nimam pojma, kaj se dogaja z Moldavijo, tako da enostavno težko komentiram. Vem pa, kako je USA širila demokracijo po ameriki (kontinentu), Filipinih, bližnjem vzhodu, Vietnamu, ... Vem tudi, kako so Angleži širili demokracijo v Indiji, Kitajski, ... pa Francozi v Vietnamu. In kako so zahodni mediji veselo poročali o tem. Če hočeš, ti lahko napišem na kratko, kako so američani dobrih 100 let nazaj zajadrali v imperializem.
Rusi delajo nekaj štale okoli svojih meja, USA pa po celem svetu. Zato mi za Ruse več ali manj dol visi - ker so globoko v zatonu kot velesila in ker so regionalno precej omejeni. Ter ker za rusko sranje izvemo iz medijev, medtem ko nam ameriško sranje prodajajo kot bonboniero.
A to veš, da so Američani širili demokracijo tudi v Južni Koreji, na Japonskem, v Vzhodni Evropi po padcu komunizma. Medtem pa od ruskih satelitov ni prav nič. Nimajo niti ene svetle izjeme. Vse je vukojebina. In Moldavija mora ostati vujokebina. Tako se je Putin odločil.
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perci ::
Super so jo razširili tudi v Afganistan, Irak, Sirijo....pa v srednjo in južno ameriko. Majka. Kaj bi dal, da bi bil tam.
Da ne omenjam svetle vzhajajoče zvezde Vietnam.
Da ne omenjam svetle vzhajajoče zvezde Vietnam.
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Fritz ::
Paxi...
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novichok agents may cause lasting nerve damage, resulting in permanent disablement of victims, according to Russian scientists.[61] Their effect on humans was demonstrated by the accidental exposure of Andrei Zheleznyakov, one of the scientists involved in their development, to the residue of an unspecified Novichok agent while working in a Moscow laboratory in May 1987. He was critically injured and took ten days to recover consciousness after the incident. He lost the ability to walk and was treated at a secret clinic in Leningrad for three months afterwards. The agent caused permanent harm, with effects that included "chronic weakness in his arms, a toxic hepatitis that gave rise to cirrhosis of the liver, epilepsy, spells of severe depression, and an inability to read or concentrate that left him totally disabled and unable to work." He never recovered and died in July 1992 after five years of deteriorating health
Važno da sta zdrava, in bosta lahko igrala tenis...
Ne vemo kakšne so ali bodo posledice.
Novichok je skupina strupov, ne en sam strup. Med posameznimi strupi iz skupine so razlike.
Ne vemo kateremu točno sta bila izpostavljena Skripalova in v kakšni dozi, enako kot ne vemo kateremu točno in v kakšni dozi je bil izpostavljen ruski znanstvenik Andrej Železnjakov. Ne vemo od kod je strup prišel. Edino kar vemo je, da je OPCW potrdil, da gre za živčni bojni strup iz skupine Novichok (predvidevam, da imajo vsi ti strupi neko skupno kemično osnovo).
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Samuel ::
Super so jo razširili tudi v Afganistan, Irak, Sirijo....pa v srednjo in južno ameriko. Majka. Kaj bi dal, da bi bil tam.
Da ne omenjam svetle vzhajajoče zvezde Vietnam.
Tudi v Bosno so jo hotl, sam vemo zakaj ne funkcionira. Je tudi od folka odvisno.
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Samuel ::
Da ne omenjam svetle vzhajajoče zvezde Vietnam.
Glede Vietnama. Če vprašaš Vietnamca katere vojne se spomni, bo skoraj vsak rekel, da se spomni tiste s Kitajsko, ki je kasneje prišla.
Sino-Vietnamese War @ Wikipedia
Sino-Vietnamese conflicts 1979%E2%80%9390 @ Wikipedia
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Samuel ::
Si ga vprasal ( Vietnamca) ali samo nabijaš?!
Sem bral ene raziskave. Ti verjetno sploh nisi vedel, da sta bila Vietnam in Kitajska dolga leta v vojni.
In zakaj se Vietnam zadnje čase obrača k Američanom...
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perci ::
Vietnam je bil ves čas zavojevan s strani kitajske in Hochiminh je iskal zaveznike po celem svetu.
Tudi Vietnamska vojna je bila posledica tega.
Kar se pa tiče, kdo se katere vojne bolj spommni pa lahko nehaš nabijat. V Vietnamski vojni so se žrtve štele v milijonih, v tisti s kitajsko (kasnejši) pa v par deset tisoč. Se pravi faktor 100.
Tudi Vietnamska vojna je bila posledica tega.
Kar se pa tiče, kdo se katere vojne bolj spommni pa lahko nehaš nabijat. V Vietnamski vojni so se žrtve štele v milijonih, v tisti s kitajsko (kasnejši) pa v par deset tisoč. Se pravi faktor 100.
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Mr.B ::
Si ga vprasal ( Vietnamca) ali samo nabijaš?!
Sem bral ene raziskave. Ti verjetno sploh nisi vedel, da sta bila Vietnam in Kitajska dolga leta v vojni.
In zakaj se Vietnam zadnje čase obrača k Američanom...
BS..
Vietnam's total exports value to China in January 2018 totalled nearly US$3.7 billion, up by US$1.9 billion, or 106 percent, over the same period last year, according to data from the General Department of Vietnam Customs (GDVC).
This time in previous years, China’s annual import value from Vietnam was a mere US$1.9 billion, making it the third biggest importer of Vietnam.
The main reason behind such strong bilateral trade growth is the scheduled commitments within the ASEAN-China Free Trade Area (ACFTA) framework.
https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/...
Seveda Vietnam največ izvaža v Ameriko. Številke bodo zaradi Trumpa samo še naraščale v prid Vietnama. Pač pri kitajcih bodo izdelali dele, potem pa jih bo vietnam sestavil, in jih prodal brez tarif v Ameriko. Torej zaobidel vse sankcije.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Samuel ::
Vietnam je bil ves čas zavojevan s strani kitajske in Hochiminh je iskal zaveznike po celem svetu.
Tudi Vietnamska vojna je bila posledica tega.
Kar se pa tiče, kdo se katere vojne bolj spommni pa lahko nehaš nabijat. V Vietnamski vojni so se žrtve štele v milijonih, v tisti s kitajsko (kasnejši) pa v par deset tisoč. Se pravi faktor 100.
Nima veze, kaj ti misliš. TAKO je.
The main reason behind such strong bilateral trade growth is the scheduled commitments within the ASEAN-China Free Trade Area (ACFTA) framework.
https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/...
Seveda Vietnam največ izvaža v Ameriko. Številke bodo zaradi Trumpa samo še naraščale v prid Vietnama. Pač pri kitajcih bodo izdelali dele, potem pa jih bo vietnam sestavil, in jih prodal brez tarif v Ameriko. Torej zaobidel vse sankcije.
A nisi niti tega sposoben razumet, da sta Vietnam in Kitajska predvsem konkurenta in da tisti umetni kitajski otok tam, ki ga gradi Kitajska, bo kmalu problem za ostale konkurenčne ekonomije.
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