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MrStein ::
Je kdo že slike primerjal?
Motiti se je človeško.
Motiti se pogosto je neumno.
Vztrajati pri zmoti je... oh, pozdravljen!
Motiti se pogosto je neumno.
Vztrajati pri zmoti je... oh, pozdravljen!
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D3m ::
Evo, prvi testi so tukaj.
Situacija je pa taka. Kjer zavira cpu (se pravi, nizki detajli, nizka locljivost), je razlika kar opazna, kjer je pa graficna (visoka locljivost, visoki detajli), je pa razlika minimalna.
Aja, seveda sem pozabil omenit, da pri normalno hitrih procesorjih so razlike seveda minimalne, pri amdjevih invalidih pa vecje.
Koliko in kaksne izgovore amd fanboyev lahko pricakujemo?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/am...
U ja. Super stvar
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Dr_M ::
Free boost je vedno dobrodosel, jasno.
Boljse uprasanje pa je, koliko dodatih tezav bo to prineslo (glede na to, da je govora o AMDju, tezave definitivno bodo) in kdo bo sploh podpiral to?
Boljse uprasanje pa je, koliko dodatih tezav bo to prineslo (glede na to, da je govora o AMDju, tezave definitivno bodo) in kdo bo sploh podpiral to?
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Xserces ::
rd bi vidu en review kjer je notr amd z zadnjim (mantle) driverjom in pa NV z zadnjimi driverji in ne samo AMD brez NV review. Da potem vidš kakšna je razlika
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
Ja, ampak morajo narediti oba SP in MP
no sej zgoraj maš FX 6350/8350 : GTX 780 vs R9 290X
Samo, da je FX 8350 samo 10% hitrejši ... mora biti že GPU bootleneck ali pač?
Mene zanima FX 4300/athlon x4 vs i3
no sej zgoraj maš FX 6350/8350 : GTX 780 vs R9 290X
Samo, da je FX 8350 samo 10% hitrejši ... mora biti že GPU bootleneck ali pač?
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Xserces ::
Nekdo od teh se nej sprav nek "super" review nardit. par Intel in par AMD procov in pa par graf iz enega in drugega tabora.
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
Takoj ko pridejo driverji bom naredil benchmark na directx 11.1 potem še na mantle (SP in MP) FX 43500 vs FX 6300
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deadzone ::
Fantje potegnite takoj:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-article...
AMD's Mantle is a groundbreaking graphics API that promises to transform the world of game development to help bring better, faster games to the PC
Performance gain of up to 45%(versus the DirectX version) for Battlefield 4 on the R9 290 Series
Performance gain of up to 200% (versus the DirectX version) for Star Swarm on the R9 290 Series
AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta must be used in conjunction with versions of these applications that support Mantle
It is expected that these applications will have future updates to support additional AMD Mantle features
AMD Mantle Beta driver is currently supported on:
AMD Radeon™ R9 Series GPUs
AMD Radeon™ R7 Series GPUs
AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series GPUs
AMD Radeon™ HD 8000 Series GPUs
AMD A10-7000 Series and AMD A8-7000 Series APUs
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-article...
AMD's Mantle is a groundbreaking graphics API that promises to transform the world of game development to help bring better, faster games to the PC
Performance gain of up to 45%(versus the DirectX version) for Battlefield 4 on the R9 290 Series
Performance gain of up to 200% (versus the DirectX version) for Star Swarm on the R9 290 Series
AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta must be used in conjunction with versions of these applications that support Mantle
It is expected that these applications will have future updates to support additional AMD Mantle features
AMD Mantle Beta driver is currently supported on:
AMD Radeon™ R9 Series GPUs
AMD Radeon™ R7 Series GPUs
AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series GPUs
AMD Radeon™ HD 8000 Series GPUs
AMD A10-7000 Series and AMD A8-7000 Series APUs
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
že downloadam... presenetilo me je to ko so dodali support vsem GCN karticam
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deadzone ::
Pri BF4 osebno ne pridobim veliko na 7870 in fx-8120. Verjetno morajo še optimizirati. Zgleda pa vse bolj tekoče :)
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
glej GPU bottleneck
Pa kakšen starswarm benchmark ...
Pa kakšen starswarm benchmark ...
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deadzone ::
Brez Mantla:
Average FPS: 16.50
Z Mantolm:
Average FPS: 31.31
Average FPS: 16.50
Z Mantolm:
Average FPS: 31.31
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
Kater benchmark custom/exstreme?
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deadzone ::
Pustil sem na Extreme, prvi test ter 6minut. Je bila kr opazna razlika. V najzahtevnejši sceni sem imel 4fpsje potem pa kar 16fpsjov.
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rossekdj ::
Imn amd fx6300 in r9 280x asrock 990fx 14.1 gonilnke in morem povedat da ne vem zakaj mi na na case frizne za sekundo bf4 in mi pade na 30fps ?
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fireX88 ::
Imn amd fx6300 in r9 280x asrock 990fx 14.1 gonilnke in morem povedat da ne vem zakaj mi na na case frizne za sekundo bf4 in mi pade na 30fps ?
Sva že dva. Beta??
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D3m ::
Seveda, da BETA. Lahko izpolnite obrazce in pošljete na support, da bojo hitreje ukrepali.
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Jakob_X ::
Definitivno beta. Saj mislim da celo v release notesih piše da trenutno še šteka na GCN 1.0 karticah in da bo boljša podpora v naslednjih beta verzijah.
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fireX88 ::
Jaz vem, da je beta, ampak njemu sem napisal "če ve da je beta?"!!
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Clubraider ::
Naj mi nekdo pove.
Ali jaz lahko uporabljam ta Mantle, glede na to da imam AMD Phenom X6 1055t?
Support for the following new AMD Desktop APU (Accelerated Processors) products:
AMD A10-7850K
AMD A10-7700K
Ali jaz lahko uporabljam ta Mantle, glede na to da imam AMD Phenom X6 1055t?
Support for the following new AMD Desktop APU (Accelerated Processors) products:
AMD A10-7850K
AMD A10-7700K
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Clubraider ::
Hvala za bliskovit odgovor
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Clubraider ::
Hvala. ![:D](https://static.slo-tech.com/smeski/icon_biggrin.gif)
Komaj čakam da testiram.
Pa kaj delalo bo na vseh igrah ali samo na Battlefield 4 ?
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Komaj čakam da testiram.
Pa kaj delalo bo na vseh igrah ali samo na Battlefield 4 ?
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M-XXXX ::
Samo v Mantle podprtih igrah.
Ima še kdo probleme z CF 280x in mantle? FPS-ji padejo v nulo vsake tolk časa...
Ima še kdo probleme z CF 280x in mantle? FPS-ji padejo v nulo vsake tolk časa...
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D3m ::
Hmmmm. Za CF ni še noben poročal. Si prebral release notes? Pod "known issues".
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
M-XXXX
Z Mantle so problemi še.. vsaj za R9 280X/70X itd.
Z Mantle so problemi še.. vsaj za R9 280X/70X itd.
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_Denny_ ::
Zanimivo...
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DX - min. 8, max. 59, večino časa 45-48 fps
Mantle - min. 26, max. 73, večino časa 55-60 fps
7870 Tahiti LE @ 1100 MHz gpu, 1600 MHz ram + 1090T @ 3,80 GHz
DX - min. 8, max. 59, večino časa 45-48 fps
Mantle - min. 26, max. 73, večino časa 55-60 fps
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
Kaj ko bi to nekdo na kaveriju pognal
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Clubraider ::
_Denny_ Res zanimivi test!!
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Bergyb ::
Imn amd fx6300 in r9 280x asrock 990fx 14.1 gonilnke in morem povedat da ne vem zakaj mi na na case frizne za sekundo bf4 in mi pade na 30fps ?
So že napisal, da odpravlajo ta BUG pri BF4, preveč pomnilnika je naslavlal in je vsake tolk cajta zaštekal, ko ga je mogl pobrisat :) So zgleda misnal, da ma grafična 4GB
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Vizualno so menda tudi neke razlike, če uporabljaš DX ali Mantle, bi naj to tudi odpravl in pravijo, da se performančno ne bo nič poznal (ko sedaj eni pišejo, da so izklopl določene efekte, da Mantle prikaže več FPS).
Kot vse kaže, porabi Mantle manj časa za generiranje enega Frama, kar poveča odzivnost, tu govorimo o milisekundah.
Bomo počakali na mnenje Star Citizen, da povedo svoje številjke, ki znajo biti najbol realne, glede na to, da jim AMD ni plačal 8M$ da to vklučijo v svoj špil.
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
Napiši v command - (¸)-klikneš
"PerfOverlay.DrawGraph 1" - pa naredi razliko med DirectX in MANTLE -
Pri meni povzroča Mantle "CPU pikes - 250-500ms" (včasih dela dobro), ampak je vseeno velik napredek, ko bodo odpravili še to napako na nekaterih...
"PerfOverlay.DrawGraph 1" - pa naredi razliko med DirectX in MANTLE -
Pri meni povzroča Mantle "CPU pikes - 250-500ms" (včasih dela dobro), ampak je vseeno velik napredek, ko bodo odpravili še to napako na nekaterih...
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
Zanimivo...
7870 Tahiti LE @ 1100 MHz gpu, 1600 MHz ram + 1090T @ 3,80 GHz
DX - min. 8, max. 59, večino časa 45-48 fps
Mantle - min. 26, max. 73, večino časa 55-60 fps
Grafiko dej na low pa še 1x primerjal
DirectX
Average FPS: 21.98
Average Unit Count: 3768
Maximum Unit Count: 5361
Average Batches/MS: 420.32
Maximum Batches/MS: 687.91
Average Batch Count: 18720
Maximum Batch Count: 32660
MAntle
Average FPS: 53.10
Average Unit Count: 4100
Maximum Unit Count: 5458
Average Batches/MS: 975.09
Maximum Batches/MS: 1394.52
Average Batch Count: 18366
Maximum Batch Count: 34076
Mantle 100% directX 39.5%
Directx 100% Mantle 252%
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_Denny_ ::
Evo ga, še na low:
DX - min. 16, max. 118, večino časa 50-55 fps
Mantle - min. 34, max. 119, večino časa 60+ fps
Še vedno impresivno...taki pospešek (predvsem na extreme) sem nazadnje doživel pri menjavi X1900XT za HD4850. Še ena zanimivost iz low testa - pri DX sceni na 330s s 5000+ enotami sem skoraj gledal diapozitive medtem, ko je Mantle na istem mestu imel ves čas čez 60 fps.
DX - min. 16, max. 118, večino časa 50-55 fps
Mantle - min. 34, max. 119, večino časa 60+ fps
Še vedno impresivno...taki pospešek (predvsem na extreme) sem nazadnje doživel pri menjavi X1900XT za HD4850. Še ena zanimivost iz low testa - pri DX sceni na 330s s 5000+ enotami sem skoraj gledal diapozitive medtem, ko je Mantle na istem mestu imel ves čas čez 60 fps.
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 29181
Average FPS: 81.06
Average Unit Count: 4822
Maximum Unit Count: 6545
Average Batches/MS: 308.71
Maximum Batches/MS: 1053.95
Average Batch Count: 4181
Maximum Batch Count: 21320
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Follow-Low
Prej sem imel RTS-LoW
No FX 6300 4.3GHz + R9 270X
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 29181
Average FPS: 81.06
Average Unit Count: 4822
Maximum Unit Count: 6545
Average Batches/MS: 308.71
Maximum Batches/MS: 1053.95
Average Batch Count: 4181
Maximum Batch Count: 21320
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Follow-Low
Prej sem imel RTS-LoW
No FX 6300 4.3GHz + R9 270X
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deadzone ::
Torej kolikor sem razumel Mantle. Mantle preprosto izniči razlike med različnimi CPU-ji (primerljivo dobrimi) in izkoristi GPU do 100%. Torej CPU ne predstavlja več bottlenecka in prepusti grafični, da dela kolikor lahko. A si predstavljam približno prav?
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klkkkkkkkkkk ::
Ja
DirectX zelo zelo bottlenecka CPU. Sedaj je CPU hitrejši clock per clock + podpora do 8 jeder na 100% usage.
Takoj ko pridejo normalni driverji bom naredil test i5 vs FX 4300 clock per clock na directX in MANTLE
DirectX zelo zelo bottlenecka CPU. Sedaj je CPU hitrejši clock per clock + podpora do 8 jeder na 100% usage.
Takoj ko pridejo normalni driverji bom naredil test i5 vs FX 4300 clock per clock na directX in MANTLE
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hojnikb ::
Torej kolikor sem razumel Mantle. Mantle preprosto izniči razlike med različnimi CPU-ji (primerljivo dobrimi) in izkoristi GPU do 100%. Torej CPU ne predstavlja več bottlenecka in prepusti grafični, da dela kolikor lahko. A si predstavljam približno prav?
izniči ne, je pa manj overheada, zato igre delajo z več fpsji na slabših coujih..
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 15211
Average FPS: 42.25
Average Unit Count: 4103
Maximum Unit Count: 5452
Average Batches/MS: 703.49
Maximum Batches/MS: 2425.97
Average Batch Count: 18507
2M/4C 4.6Ghz nekako podoben rezultat kot z 6 jedri oz. je tale celo malce hitrejši :) Pomembno je, da ni CPu bottlenecka :)
DirecX - CPU bottleneck
Mantle - GPU bottleneck
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 15211
Average FPS: 42.25
Average Unit Count: 4103
Maximum Unit Count: 5452
Average Batches/MS: 703.49
Maximum Batches/MS: 2425.97
Average Batch Count: 18507
2M/4C 4.6Ghz nekako podoben rezultat kot z 6 jedri oz. je tale celo malce hitrejši :) Pomembno je, da ni CPu bottlenecka :)
DirecX - CPU bottleneck
Mantle - GPU bottleneck
GA-990XA-UD3, FX 6300 4.6GHz, R9 270X, 8Gb Ram, 1TB, G-550W, Win7
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