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Slovenija še vedno tretje razredna dežela.
BALAST ::
"You may fool all the people some of the time;
you can even fool some of the people all the time;
but you can't fool all of the people all the time."
you can even fool some of the people all the time;
but you can't fool all of the people all the time."
gendale ::
to je stara delitev iz hladne vojne (tko ti še piše pod sliko), po tej delitvi je slovenija pravilno označena
in ne gre po razvitosti, ampak 1st world - zahodni blok, 2nd world - vzhodni blok, 3rd world - ostali
po hladni vojni je pa ta delitev zgubila smisel in se uporablja 1st world - najbolj razvite, 2nd - nekje umes, 3rd - podn
če bi uporabili to delitev, smo pa 1st world
in ne gre po razvitosti, ampak 1st world - zahodni blok, 2nd world - vzhodni blok, 3rd world - ostali
po hladni vojni je pa ta delitev zgubila smisel in se uporablja 1st world - najbolj razvite, 2nd - nekje umes, 3rd - podn
če bi uporabili to delitev, smo pa 1st world
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RejZoR ::
Sej to vidiš kadar hočeš kaj naročit prek neta oz ko moraš uveljavljat garancijo oz dobit tehnično podporo.
"First world" je bilo vse vedno prvorazredno, ni problema z dostavo, vse dobavljivo, reklamacije rešujejo direktno in na svoje stroške in tehnična podpora zelo odzivna, prijazna in učinkovita.
"Third world" aka za Slovenijo, pol robe sploh ne moreš naročit, z reklamacijami je vedno križ, tehnična podpora je počasna za crknit, kader je nesposoben in ima probleme celo z osnovno angleščino, dobiš pa na vezo al kakšnega poljaka al pa indijca s katerim zabiješ eno uro samo da mu dopoveš kaj sploh rabiš.
Že to vse pove o tem kako nas tretirajo. Torej kot eno govno tam dol. Sploh zabavno je ko okusiš obe plati znotraj iste firme. Npr Samsung Slovenia je praktično neobstoječa zadeva, medtem ko je Samsung US oz UK first class. Isto ACER. Ameriški oddelek se je odzval v parih minutah, na ACER EMEA (naš konec in vzhodni blok) pa sem čakal na nek bebav odgovor po 2-3 dni. Ko bi vsaj naprave koštale manj zarad tega. Kje pa, še dražje so vglavnem...
"First world" je bilo vse vedno prvorazredno, ni problema z dostavo, vse dobavljivo, reklamacije rešujejo direktno in na svoje stroške in tehnična podpora zelo odzivna, prijazna in učinkovita.
"Third world" aka za Slovenijo, pol robe sploh ne moreš naročit, z reklamacijami je vedno križ, tehnična podpora je počasna za crknit, kader je nesposoben in ima probleme celo z osnovno angleščino, dobiš pa na vezo al kakšnega poljaka al pa indijca s katerim zabiješ eno uro samo da mu dopoveš kaj sploh rabiš.
Že to vse pove o tem kako nas tretirajo. Torej kot eno govno tam dol. Sploh zabavno je ko okusiš obe plati znotraj iste firme. Npr Samsung Slovenia je praktično neobstoječa zadeva, medtem ko je Samsung US oz UK first class. Isto ACER. Ameriški oddelek se je odzval v parih minutah, na ACER EMEA (naš konec in vzhodni blok) pa sem čakal na nek bebav odgovor po 2-3 dni. Ko bi vsaj naprave koštale manj zarad tega. Kje pa, še dražje so vglavnem...
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rezator ::
The three worlds as they were separated during the Cold War era, each with its respective allies as of the period between 30 April 1975 (the fall of Saigon) and 23 August 1975 (the communist takeover in Laos).Colors do not represent current economic development.
Saj lepo piše. Ne vidim problema.
Saj lepo piše. Ne vidim problema.
Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet.
Tilen ::
Zanimivo je to, da je nekdo včeraj "popravil" :
current 19:03, 23 December 2011 Thumbnail for version as of 19:03, 23 December 2011 860 × 440 (1.37 MB) Vorziblix (Again, correcting Yugoslavia (since no one replied at the talk page), and again, see the talk page and address issues there first.)
File:First second third worlds map.svg @ Wikipedia
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current 19:03, 23 December 2011 Thumbnail for version as of 19:03, 23 December 2011 860 × 440 (1.37 MB) Vorziblix (Again, correcting Yugoslavia (since no one replied at the talk page), and again, see the talk page and address issues there first.)
File:First second third worlds map.svg @ Wikipedia
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Yugoslavia
Yugoslavia should be considered Third World for the purposes of this map, as Tito broke with Stalin early on (before the Sino-Soviet split), and cozied up to NATO while remaining communist in government and economy. Yugoslavia, along with India and Egypt, made up the core of the Non-Aligned Movement.
Yugoslavia was never part of Second world, it had very cool relations with Soviet Union,particulary in early 1950's when it was member of NATO-allied Balkan union together with Greece and Turkey.
I agree can somone change realy...Yugoslavia was part of Third world.--VuXman talk 21:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
In fact, Yugoslavia is one of three founders of non-aligned movement (with India and Egypt), please somebody change this. Thanx.
--79.175.81.105 (talk) 00:45, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
If sending assassin on each other and breaking diplomatic relations is considered "good relationship" the they are right —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.85.134.221 (talk) 18:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Now really someone should change the map - Yugoslavia is by no means part of Second World. --Rastko Pocesta (talk) 17:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Since a recent edit of mine doing exactly that was reverted with the explanation that this has already been "beaten to death", I ask the reverter to direct me to the page where this was discussed and a consensus reached to not re-color Yugoslavia. Having checked the talk pages of the articles for First World, Second World, and Third World in addition to this talk page and the talk page for Template:Three worlds, it seems that every comment which mentions Yugoslavia at all was in favor of re-coloring (or of scrapping the image entirely, but that is a different matter). Why was this change reverted, and with what policy justification? If verifiability is the issue, I can further provide sources supporting the pre-reversion version of the image, with Yugoslavia in the Third World:
Prashad, Vijay. (2007). The Darker Nations: A People's History of the Third World. The New Press. ISBN-13: 978-1-56584-785-9.
Brands, H. W. (1989). The specter of neutralism: the United States and the emergence of the Third World, 1947-1960. Columbia University Press. ISBN: 023107168X, 9780231071680.
Dragan, Bogetić. (2006). Pogoršanje jugoslovensko-američkih odnosa posle prvog samita nesvrstanih zemalja u Beogradu.
Živković, Marko. (2001). Nešto između-simbolička geografija Srbije. From "Filozofija i društvo".
The last of these is quite concise and explicit: "Jugosloveni sebe nisu smeštali ni u Prvi svet (Zapad) ni u Drugi svet (Istok) već u Treći svet, ali definisan ne kao zaostali Jug, već kao progresivni i ponosni pokret Nesvrstanih." ("The Yugoslavs themselves did not belong either to the First World (the West) nor to the Second World (the East) but to the Third World...")
Any explanation would be appreciated. I have no interest in becoming involved in an edit-war, but this image should preferably both conform to Wikipedia's policies and be historically accurate (note that all captions for this image describe it as representing 1975). Vorziblix (talk) 03:27, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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RejZoR ::
Fora je, da nas še vedno tlačijo med najmanj drugorazredne države pri večini stvari neglede na to kaj piše na zemljevidu...
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Mipe ::
Turčija je bila bolj razvita od Jugoslavije?
Aja, v tem primeru gre za politično delitev... no, potem pa je Jugoslavija spadala v tretji blok, ki mu je dol viselo za hladno vojno.
Aja, v tem primeru gre za politično delitev... no, potem pa je Jugoslavija spadala v tretji blok, ki mu je dol viselo za hladno vojno.
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