Zakaj so električni avtomobili prava stvar

fpbs je 23. avg 2017 ob 15:15 izjavil:

Nemški okoljski minister opustil uporabo Tesle:
https://www.avto-magazin.si/zanimivosti...

Z uporabo naj bi prenehal zaradi premajhnega dosega, hkrati pa naj avtomobil nebi ponujal dovolj udobja.

Nikec3 je 23. avg 2017 ob 15:21 izjavil:

fpbs je 23. avg 2017 ob 15:15 izjavil:

Nemški okoljski minister opustil uporabo Tesle:
https://www.avto-magazin.si/zanimivosti...

Z uporabo naj bi prenehal zaradi premajhnega dosega, hkrati pa naj avtomobil nebi ponujal dovolj udobja.

A bo raje prešaltal na BMW i3?

J.McLane je 25. avg 2017 ob 08:19 izjavil:

Da se vse, ampak večina folka tega NOČE početi, ker jim je bolj udoben drug način prevoza, tega pač ne moreš spremeniti pa če se na glavo postaviš.

Alternative morajo biti udobne in poceni, če želiš da jih folk sprejme, sicer ostanemo pri full size avtu v kateri se vozi ena oseba.

thramos je 25. avg 2017 ob 08:10 izjavil:

J.McLane je 25. avg 2017 ob 08:03 izjavil:

"Muhastih" dni v LJ na leto je ca. 150 oz. 41% vseh dni

Za vožnjo v službo, če si vsaj malo fleksibilen z delovnim časom, se da praktično celo leto voziti s kolesom oz. motorjem. Blatnike rabiš.

Dneve, ko se zaradi vremena res ne da, lahko prešteješ na prste rok.

Alex Venzpred 3 meseci (urejeno)
+Robert Harvey While the overall build quality out of Tesla has improved since I took delivery in 2015, rattling and fit/finish issues are still common in their new cars. As for your hope of there being a range of quality based on price, there really isn't. You can choose the Premium Upgrades Package which adds some leather bits here and there, along with extending some alcantara details to the dash... but, overall, the interior quality is pretty much the same regardless of whether you're buying a $70k base model or a $171k fully loaded S P100D. I realize this isn't typical for the auto market, but that's how it is with Tesla. It's pretty much the same story with the exterior, too... All of this is largely why I didn't opt for more than the 70D--all I would have gotten with the other models at the time was marginally increased range and improved acceleration and I didn't feel that was worth the asking price.

It's kinda silly whoever asked if this is the best car out there now, because it's not even nearly the best sedan out there. Other than having an electric motor that gives it as many downsides as it does upsides, it's not that great in any aspect. I don't know if they improved the interior massively, but last year I drove a P85D fully loaded, and interior felt outright cheap, with poor solidity and attention to detail. Interior quality is NOWHERE near something like an Audi A8, Mercedes S class or 7 series, and it costs more than they do. It's not as quiet, refined or comfortable as any of them either, not even as quiet as the cars from class below. I also specifically remember feeling like the seats sucked, like the sound system was pretty poor, the wipers made a squeaky noise during rain like on cheap cars, headlights weren't all that good, climate system was pretty poor, etc. Even the new 5 series or E class are better cars in pretty much every way. This car is special, because it's unique in being an electric car, but it's far from having the depth of engineering and quality in every part of the car as something like a 5 series has.

Utk je 29. avg 2017 ob 06:22 izjavil:

Unknown_001 je 28. avg 2017 ob 22:03 izjavil:

In folk mi še zdaj ne verjame da izkušnje in tradicija štejejo.

Stejejo stejejo, tesla bo imela se 20 let slabso notranjost, ostali pa t + 20 let slabse baterije in pogon na elektriko, kjer so t leta cez katera se bojo tega resno lotili. Bomo videli kaj bo bolj pomembno.

Gregor P je 29. avg 2017 ob 08:41 izjavil:

Vprašanje, ker gre pri Tesli le za ameriški avtomobil, ti pa niso ravno znani po kvaliteti in udobju (oz. je to neprimerljivo z evropskimi vozili).

Grey je 29. avg 2017 ob 09:59 izjavil:

Unknown_001 je 22. avg 2017 ob 21:55 izjavil:

Javni prevoz definitivno JE rešitev. Seveda učinkovit. Ne pa te avtobusi na metan in podobne bedarije od električnega vlakca in golf vozičkov, ki se drenjajo v gužvi. Kretenizem brez meja. Tramvaj je cenovno učinkovitejši, hitrejši, zanesljiv. Plačljiv parking znotraj Lj seveda ostane. A na OBROBJU kjer prideš da boš uporabljal javni prevoz pa bi moral biti zastonj. Ali pa bi ti pripadal le ob nakupu karte. Lahko celodnevna pa se vozi gor dol. Lahko na eno furo...

A štekaš. Javni prevoz v Lj je tako dtag samo zaradi neučinkovitosti. Ker je neučinkovit se koristi manj, kot bi se lahko. To za seboj potegne gužvo, zastoje, zjahane ceste, DRAŽJE KARTE ...

Vse je povezano. V Švici folga, na Poljskem folga, V Nemčiji folga, v Singapurju folga, V Londonu folga...

Samo ne. Mi smo posebni, tanarbol pametni in bomo problem onesnaževanja in gužve reševali s še več pleha na električni pogon.

Za Ljubljano (in katerokoli metropolo) bi bilo najbolj učinkovito, da popolnoma zaprejo promet za osebna vozila in avtobusov naštepajo malo morje tako, da peljejo praktično na vsakih 5 minut. Ker ne bi bilo toliko prometa, se znebijo še semaforjev na Celovški, Dunajski, Tržaški in Dolenjski in bi javni promet laufu v nulo. Pa še hitro bi prišel povsod. Ob obvoznico/avtocesto pa ogromne parkirne hiše, ki so speljane neposredno z obvoznice noter tako, da zapelješ praktično direktno v parkirno hišo. V izogib kreiranju bottlenecka bi ta parkirna hiša morala imeti več entry lanes ter digitalno plačevanje (ni zaustavljanja pred zapornico) tako, da samo zapelješ noter (krito s strani mesečne vozovnice za avtobus).

Ne samo, da je bolj okolju prijazno, tudi hitreje bi se spokali iz služb, ko bi končali, ker preneseš obremenitev na avtocesto in ne na kapilare kot so te semaforizirane cestice po mestu.

Tisti, ki živijo v samem mestu pa bi tako lahko imeli na izbiro hiter in učinkovit javni prevoz ter ogromno površine za raznorazne HoverBoarde, kolesa, elektro skiroje in podobno.

Tišina in svež zrak :)

Quick, efficient and environmentally sound.

Utk je 29. avg 2017 ob 06:22 izjavil:

Unknown_001 je 28. avg 2017 ob 22:03 izjavil:

In folk mi še zdaj ne verjame da izkušnje in tradicija štejejo.

Stejejo stejejo, tesla bo imela se 20 let slabso notranjost, ostali pa t + 20 let slabse baterije in pogon na elektriko, kjer so t leta cez katera se bojo tega resno lotili. Bomo videli kaj bo bolj pomembno.

Peter Altmaier said he was thoroughly disappointed by German auto executives following the diesel-emissions scandal and that he was also thinking about the future of the 600,000 employees in the industry.

"When is our automobile industry, which is so good, actually going to be in a position to build a car that travels 50 kilometers further than a Tesla and costs 10,000 euros less?" Altmaier said at a public forum in Berlin on Saturday. "It must be possible to set this as a goal."

"If the automobile industry doesn't grasp the fact that it has to invest more in electric vehicles, especially in cities, then it will be very hard to defend combustion engines -- gasoline and diesel -- over the long term," Altmaier said. "We must do all we can now, so that the best electric cars are built in Germany."