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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
Temo vidijo: vsi
o0o0o0o0o0 ::
Slavneft oil refinery in Yaroslavl, 100km N of Moscow and 700 km from the nearest Ukrainian-controlled territory, burning merrily on the morning of Oct. 1 after being hit overnight. The refinery is one of fascist Russia's largest.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide...
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide...
JohnyQ_ ::
Russia builds mega-crematorium amid deadliest battlefield losses since World War II
Authorities in St. Petersburg, Russia, are planning a large-scale modernization of the city's crematorium, which is expected to become the largest in Europe, according to a report by The Moscow Times.
The planned expansion comes as Russia faces record battlefield casualties in Ukraine - the heaviest losses since World War II, according to Western intelligence estimates.
Rusi naj bi imeli koj maj žrtev. Zakaj potem potreba po takih masivnih krematorijih ?
mikhaair ::
Fikus bi rekel, da zato ker americani služijo. Zagotovo bo nekaj ameriskega v krematoriju.
fikus_ ::
Fikus bi rekel, da zato ker americani služijo. Zagotovo bo nekaj ameriskega v krematoriju.
Podtikanje s tvoje strani, ki nič ne doprinese k debati!
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
mikhaair ::
fikus_ ::
Fikus bi rekel, da zato ker americani služijo. Zagotovo bo nekaj ameriskega v krematoriju.
Podtikanje s tvoje strani, ki nič ne doprinese k debati!
Ravno toliko kot tvoje izmišljotine.
Vidim da razmišljaš kot bi bil za šankom.
PS Iz one teme o 5% si pa pobegnil brez odgovorov in me začel napadati tukaj.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
Goran10 ::
zdaj ne vem koliko je to res ampak sliše se pa dobro. cena bencina je pa v rusiji že itak enormno zrasla.
The Russian outlet RBK reports that 38% of federal oil refining capacity in Russia has been halted.
As a result, gasoline production has decreased by 1 million tons, while the shortage--just as we noted--has reached 20%, or about 400,000 tons per day.
Russian oil companies can do almost nothing to overcome this crisis under the current conditions. The repair and re-equipment of damaged or almost completely destroyed refineries could take months or even years.
The Russian outlet RBK reports that 38% of federal oil refining capacity in Russia has been halted.
As a result, gasoline production has decreased by 1 million tons, while the shortage--just as we noted--has reached 20%, or about 400,000 tons per day.
Russian oil companies can do almost nothing to overcome this crisis under the current conditions. The repair and re-equipment of damaged or almost completely destroyed refineries could take months or even years.
JohnyQ_ ::
zdaj ne vem koliko je to res ampak sliše se pa dobro. cena bencina je pa v rusiji že itak enormno zrasla.
The Russian outlet RBK reports that 38% of federal oil refining capacity in Russia has been halted.
As a result, gasoline production has decreased by 1 million tons, while the shortage--just as we noted--has reached 20%, or about 400,000 tons per day.
Russian oil companies can do almost nothing to overcome this crisis under the current conditions. The repair and re-equipment of damaged or almost completely destroyed refineries could take months or even years.
To je bil cilj posebne 3 dnevne operacije!!!
Posebna je zato, ker posebno skrb namenja varovanju okolja z zmanjšam porabe fosilnih goriv. In kot kaže so letos dosegli že 20% zmanjšanje. Bravo!
JohnyQ_ ::
The official data is in and it ain't pretty.
Mortgages in Russia are only available to 16.1% of families. 84% can't afford it.
Let that sink in. ONLY ONE IN SIX FAMILIES CAN AFFORD MORTGAGE PAYMENTS IN RUSSIA.
This is the all time lowest level of affordability thanks to sky high central bank key rate. In annexed Crimea, where allegedly residents voted to be in Russia following Putin's annexation in 2014, only 5% of families can afford a mortgage.
The average monthly annuity mortgage payment nationwide exceeded 90,000 rubles. Average wages do not exceed 45,000 rubles a month, or half of the mortgage payment. Thus two salaries can barely cover it with nothing left to buy food and pay the utility bill.
In Moscow average monthly payments have reached 249,000 rubles, which is also twice as high as average monthly wages here.
The VAST majority of Russians have been priced out of apartments and homes. THIS is the real reason why Russians don't have children anymore. They can't afford them.
Two incomes, of husband and wife, are insufficient to scrape together a down payment and to make monthly payments for the next thirty years.
Ruski raj ?
Pithlit ::
The official data is in and it ain't pretty.
Mortgages in Russia are only available to 16.1% of families. 84% can't afford it.
Let that sink in. ONLY ONE IN SIX FAMILIES CAN AFFORD MORTGAGE PAYMENTS IN RUSSIA.
This is the all time lowest level of affordability thanks to sky high central bank key rate. In annexed Crimea, where allegedly residents voted to be in Russia following Putin's annexation in 2014, only 5% of families can afford a mortgage.
The average monthly annuity mortgage payment nationwide exceeded 90,000 rubles. Average wages do not exceed 45,000 rubles a month, or half of the mortgage payment. Thus two salaries can barely cover it with nothing left to buy food and pay the utility bill.
In Moscow average monthly payments have reached 249,000 rubles, which is also twice as high as average monthly wages here.
The VAST majority of Russians have been priced out of apartments and homes. THIS is the real reason why Russians don't have children anymore. They can't afford them.
Two incomes, of husband and wife, are insufficient to scrape together a down payment and to make monthly payments for the next thirty years.
Ruski raj ?
Murica kriva!
Life is as complicated as we make it...
Goran10 ::
zdaj ne vem koliko je to res ampak sliše se pa dobro. cena bencina je pa v rusiji že itak enormno zrasla.
The Russian outlet RBK reports that 38% of federal oil refining capacity in Russia has been halted.
As a result, gasoline production has decreased by 1 million tons, while the shortage--just as we noted--has reached 20%, or about 400,000 tons per day.
Russian oil companies can do almost nothing to overcome this crisis under the current conditions. The repair and re-equipment of damaged or almost completely destroyed refineries could take months or even years.
To je bil cilj posebne 3 dnevne operacije!!!
Posebna je zato, ker posebno skrb namenja varovanju okolja z zmanjšam porabe fosilnih goriv. In kot kaže so letos dosegli že 20% zmanjšanje. Bravo!
gdp bo pa seveda še naprej rastel ker se bodo dvignile investicije v zeleno energijo-šetaj peš.
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JohnyQ_ ::
Many Russians say that the worst is that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Special military operation in Ukraine will continue for indefinite time, and the economy will only worsen.
In Russia, demand for antidepressants skyrocketed by 40% in 2025.
In the first eight months of this year, 12.9 million packages were sold, more than in all of 2021. The surge in demand for antidepressants began in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine, and has grown annually since then.
From 2021 to 2024, demand increased by 50%. The largest number of pills are purchased in Moscow, the Moscow region, and St. Petersburg. In the Samara and Kaliningrad regions, sales have doubled this year.
Educated elites take antidepressants and the poor swill moonshine, while government happily report that the alcohol consumption is down. But what they count is vodka sales, which indeed is down because men have long switched to bootleg alcohol due to high prices.
Ruski raj pt.2
Goran10 ::
vem da se aleš ne bi strinjal z Maio Sandu pa vseeno
"Thanks to the courage of the Ukrainian military and the resistance of the civilian population, we have peace in Moldova.
We stand in solidarity with Ukraine and will do everything possible to be close to them."
-Maia Sandu
rusi vekajo ker so popušili volitve v Moldaviji z vojsko pa ne morejo notri ker je malce zaposlena.
The Kremlin declared that the elections in Moldova were held "blatantly in a dictatorial manner!"
"This is not just a disgrace, it is yet another Western failure which, just like in Romania, will go down in the chronicles of Western chaos. This is not how it works if we are talking about democracy based on the law," said Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova.
Russia still cannot get over the fact that Moldovans refused to fall for Kremlin propaganda -- even though, by their own admission, Moscow poured an absurd amount of money into it this time.
Moldova, we stand with you!
"Thanks to the courage of the Ukrainian military and the resistance of the civilian population, we have peace in Moldova.
We stand in solidarity with Ukraine and will do everything possible to be close to them."
-Maia Sandu
rusi vekajo ker so popušili volitve v Moldaviji z vojsko pa ne morejo notri ker je malce zaposlena.
The Kremlin declared that the elections in Moldova were held "blatantly in a dictatorial manner!"
"This is not just a disgrace, it is yet another Western failure which, just like in Romania, will go down in the chronicles of Western chaos. This is not how it works if we are talking about democracy based on the law," said Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova.
Russia still cannot get over the fact that Moldovans refused to fall for Kremlin propaganda -- even though, by their own admission, Moscow poured an absurd amount of money into it this time.
Moldova, we stand with you!
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bbbbbb2024 ::
vem da se aleš ne bi strinjal z Maio Sandu pa vseeno
"Thanks to the courage of the Ukrainian military and the resistance of the civilian population, we have peace in Moldova.
We stand in solidarity with Ukraine and will do everything possible to be close to them."
-Maia Sandu
rusi vekajo ker so popušili volitve v Moldaviji z vojsko pa ne morejo notri ker je malce zaposlena.
Se zopet malo pardoniram.
Z Moldavijo je največji problem, ker se sicer tam Transnistrija hoče odcepiti. Imeli so že malo neodločeno državljansko vojno, Rusi so poslali okrepitve, ki so od takrat tam.
To še ne bi bil problem, če se ne bi oklepali največjega skladišča streliva:
Cobasna ammunition depot @ Wikipedia
Shranjeno je 20 tisoč ton streliva. Atomska bomba na Hirošimo je bila 15 kiloton TNT. To bi torej počilo bolj kot atomska bomba, teoretično. To je ves problem.
Utk ::
https://www.index.hr/mobile/vijesti/cla...
Sankcije ne delujejo. Svetovna bencinska črpalka bo pač uvažala bencin, nič takega...
Sankcije ne delujejo. Svetovna bencinska črpalka bo pač uvažala bencin, nič takega...
Goran10 ::
https://www.index.hr/mobile/vijesti/cla...
Sankcije ne delujejo. Svetovna bencinska črpalka bo pač uvažala bencin, nič takega...
prasci kitajci služijo denar s svojo rafinerijsko industrijo. a rusi ne vidijo da so njihovi proksiji v vojni z zahodam?
bbbbbb2024 je izjavil:
vem da se aleš ne bi strinjal z Maio Sandu pa vseeno
"Thanks to the courage of the Ukrainian military and the resistance of the civilian population, we have peace in Moldova.
We stand in solidarity with Ukraine and will do everything possible to be close to them."
-Maia Sandu
rusi vekajo ker so popušili volitve v Moldaviji z vojsko pa ne morejo notri ker je malce zaposlena.
Se zopet malo pardoniram.
Z Moldavijo je največji problem, ker se sicer tam Transnistrija hoče odcepiti. Imeli so že malo neodločeno državljansko vojno, Rusi so poslali okrepitve, ki so od takrat tam.
To še ne bi bil problem, če se ne bi oklepali največjega skladišča streliva:
Cobasna ammunition depot @ Wikipedia
Shranjeno je 20 tisoč ton streliva. Atomska bomba na Hirošimo je bila 15 kiloton TNT. To bi torej počilo bolj kot atomska bomba, teoretično. To je ves problem.
ampak zaenkrat tisti mongoli mirujejo-seveda ker so odrezani od sveta. z rusko zmago bi se pa zadeva drastično spremenila.
zdaj se vidi da je bila ta vojna podpihovana s strani kitajske da služi s svojo naftno industrijo. našuntal so putina da vpade v ukr vedoč da jim bodo ukr rafinerije zažgal navsezadnje jim tudi dele za drone prodajajo.
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o0o0o0o0o0 ::
Nove skripte še niso prišle. Fuks je spet prešaltal na stari račun, ravno toliko da joka o podtikanju
Utk ::
A še ne veste? Kitajci v Rusijo, Arabci v Kitajsko, Rusi Arabcem. Da se optimizirajo kapacitete.
Kolk evrov si bi zaslužil moj spin?
Kolk evrov si bi zaslužil moj spin?
endelin ::
Kakšna je možnost da kitajci prodajo rusom točno tisto gorivo ki so jim rusi prodali pred nekaj tedni?
Haha
Denar mora krožit. Dobesedno
Haha
Denar mora krožit. Dobesedno
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Goran10 ::
Ev o najnovejši spin direkt iz mmc
Rusi zaradi nekaj poškodovanih rafinerij nimajo za svojo oskrbo nobenih problemov. Ta izpad se kvečjemu pozna v izvozu, medtem ko je za lastno porabo energentov več kot dovolj, saj je zaradi manjšega izvoza več energentov na domačem trgu.
Rusi zaradi nekaj poškodovanih rafinerij nimajo za svojo oskrbo nobenih problemov. Ta izpad se kvečjemu pozna v izvozu, medtem ko je za lastno porabo energentov več kot dovolj, saj je zaradi manjšega izvoza več energentov na domačem trgu.
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endelin ::
Ev o najnovejši spin direkt iz mmc
Rusi zaradi nekaj poškodovanih rafinerij nimajo za svojo oskrbo nobenih problemov. Ta izpad se kvečjemu pozna v izvozu, medtem ko je za lastno porabo energentov več kot dovolj, saj je zaradi manjšega izvoza več energentov na domačem trgu.
Kako je to neumno
Pa dobro saj nemci so še vedno sanjali o zmagi tudi potem ko so jim že padale bombe po največjih mestih na glavo
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endelin ::
Upam da uporablja ruski AI
Pa da putler primakne za kakšen boršč
Pa da putler primakne za kakšen boršč
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Goran10 ::
Narativa da je Ukrajine vsak dan manj pa počasi ugaša ker je po treh letih jasno da bi jo moral že zmanjkat. Se pa še vedno najdejo spranci ki ti uletijo s tem vajbom.
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sparklyslo ::
Rusofili pravijo, da ni pomanjkanja bencina v Rusolandiji...
https://x.com/evgen1232007/status/19592...
https://x.com/evgen1232007/status/19592...
bosto ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
Rusofili pravijo, da ni pomanjkanja bencina v Rusolandiji...
https://x.com/evgen1232007/status/19592...
Kaj ti bo bencin če imaš kolo
JohnyQ_ ::
sparklyslo je izjavil:
Rusofili pravijo, da ni pomanjkanja bencina v Rusolandiji...
https://x.com/evgen1232007/status/19592...
Kaj ti bo bencin če imaš kolo
Še bodo kolesarili.
Goran10 ::
Ja zdaj izvajajo briljantne taktike majhne skupine s kroslami kmalu pa bodo tekli v napad čudno da se rdeča armada ni tega spomnila. Bedaki so se mučili s tanki.
Bici ::
Pa še dokument iz 2019, avtorstvo se pripisuje CIA-i. Če bost prebrali kazalo in razumeli napisani, to je dokument , ki razkriva načrte Usa za širjenje vpliva in destabilizacijo/odstranitev neposlušnih.
https://x.com/BowesChay/status/19729980...
Model, a kdaj prebereš za sabo kake neumnosti pišeš?
Prilepil si sliko enega kazala.
To je lahko CIA dokument ali pa običen fejk enega internetnega zblojenca.
Glede na tvoj track record in tvoje napovedi o tem kako Rusija NE bo napadla ukrajine in da je to samo natolcevanje zahodnih MSM, se močno nagima v smer, da nam sped prodajaš neke izmišljotine. Ali pa celo da zavestno veš da zavajaš ali kar direktno lažeš.
Lonsarg ::
Vse velesile sirijo svoj vpliv na mehak nacin v kar spada tudi vohunjenje podkupovanje asasinacije ekonomski korencki in podobno. Tako US kot Rusija sta lepo obe z raznimi metodami sirile vpliv tako v Ukrajini kot Siriji kot se kje.
Zgolj obcasno pa velesila preide na hard vojasko moc. V tem primeru je bila to Rusija, v kakem drugem primeru je bila to US.
To je vse kar je, nobene globje resnice ni. Je pa na navadnih ljudeh da strogo nasprotujemo vojaskemu nacinu sirje ja vpliva, ne glede na to katera velesila gre to izvajat. Naj se tepejo na mehak nacin za vpliv kakor hocejo.
Zgolj obcasno pa velesila preide na hard vojasko moc. V tem primeru je bila to Rusija, v kakem drugem primeru je bila to US.
To je vse kar je, nobene globje resnice ni. Je pa na navadnih ljudeh da strogo nasprotujemo vojaskemu nacinu sirje ja vpliva, ne glede na to katera velesila gre to izvajat. Naj se tepejo na mehak nacin za vpliv kakor hocejo.
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Pac-Man ::
Trump je podpisal izvršni ukaz po katerem se napad na Katar šteje za grožnjo miru in varnosti ZDA. Garancija precej v stilu 5. člena.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential...
Tisti privat B747 je treba nekako odplačat, tudi če se spotoma pod avtobus vrže Izrael.
Kaj mu lahko podari Ukrajina, da bi pod avtobus letela še Rusija?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential...
Kaj mu lahko podari Ukrajina, da bi pod avtobus letela še Rusija?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
OK, Hvala.
Ukrajina mora torej zgraditi največjo ameriško bazo v Evropi.
Ukrajina mora torej zgraditi največjo ameriško bazo v Evropi.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Izgleda bodo šli Rusi sedaj na najnovejše električne Lade
Fuel shortages are increasing in Russia. On the M-12 Kazan-Moscow highway, where gas stations are located every 150 km, queues at each of them exceed 1.5-2 km.
https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/19...
Fuel shortages are increasing in Russia. On the M-12 Kazan-Moscow highway, where gas stations are located every 150 km, queues at each of them exceed 1.5-2 km.
https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/19...
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Goran10 ::
kdo bi si mislil da bo njim uspel zeleni prehod hitreje od evrope pa vedno so zase trdili da niso woke
fur80 ::
kdo bi si mislil da bo njim uspel zeleni prehod hitreje od evrope pa vedno so zase trdili da niso woke
hehe
Tale je tudi zanimiva. 7 miljard imajo zamrznjenih v Rusiji, pa nobeden tam noče kupit. :D
Raiffeisen Bank Blocked from Exiting Russia
Austria’s Raiffeisen Bank has once again failed to sell its Russian subsidiary, as Moscow refused to approve the deal, Reuters reports.
Russian authorities fear that transferring the asset to local owners could trigger sanctions against the bank.
The main reason, however, is the Kremlin’s desire to keep Raiffeisen as a financial channel to Europe.
Payments for Russian gas supplied via the TurkStream pipeline — the only route still supplying the EU — pass through the bank. In the first eight months of 2025 alone, 11.5 billion cubic meters of gas worth around $3.8 billion were routed to Europe.
Despite euro transfer restrictions, selected Russian companies still conduct major transactions to Europe through Raiffeisen. The bank has become a financial “gateway” to the West for Moscow.
The Austrian bank holds about EUR7 billion of frozen profits in Russia, but selling the business without Russian approval is impossible, and the Kremlin seems unwilling to relinquish the largest Western bank in the country.
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bbbbbb2024 ::
Ev o najnovejši spin direkt iz mmc
Rusi zaradi nekaj poškodovanih rafinerij nimajo za svojo oskrbo nobenih problemov. Ta izpad se kvečjemu pozna v izvozu, medtem ko je za lastno porabo energentov več kot dovolj, saj je zaradi manjšega izvoza več energentov na domačem trgu.
Kako je to neumno
Pa dobro saj nemci so še vedno sanjali o zmagi tudi potem ko so jim že padale bombe po največjih mestih na glavo
Malo si zgodovinske reportaže poglej. Razen Hitlerja in par adjutantov, to je par procentov, je na 98% oficirjev vedelo tam od 1944 naprej, da je vojna izgubljena. Ločili so se samo na tiste, ki so vedeli, da je vojna izgubljena, samo je bila prisega Hitlerju sveta, ter tiste, ki so ravno tako vedeli, da je vojna izgubljena, ter so predvsem reševali svojo rit.
V ruskem primeru menim, da se Putka zanaša na Šojguja in par silovikov, ki imajo 100% nadzor nad narativo Putkota. Ker siloviki še obvladujejo množice, se Rusi vojskujejo naprej. Čim se bodo pokazale nepremostljive razpoke, bodo siloviki servirali Putkotu drugo zgodbo. Če bo sledil narativi, potem ga bodo pustili pri miru. Če pa ne bo sledil, pa bo njega čakalo zdravljenje in ga bodo umaknili.
Za razliko od Hitlerja, Putka sploh ni več gospodar svoje usode.
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avani12 ::
Če bi še koga zanimalo, z peprplexity sva se pogovorila kdo so glavni siloviki
Key Siloviki Figures (2025)
Andrei Belousov - Minister of Defense (civilian economist, not a classical silovik but crucial for the war effort)
Sergei Shoigu - Secretary of the Security Council, previously long-serving Minister of Defense, still highly influential
Nikolai Patrushev - Former Secretary of the Security Council, retains influence as a close advisor
Aleksandr Bortnikov - Director of the FSB (Federal Security Service), a central silovik position
Sergey Naryshkin - Head of the SVR (Foreign Intelligence Service), prominent in state security
Viktor Zolotov - Head of the Russian National Guard (Rosgvardiya), in charge of internal security and loyal to Putin
Aleksandr Bastrykin - Head of the Investigative Committee, leading major state investigations
Igor Sechin - CEO of Rosneft, a powerful former security official closely linked to Putin
Sergey Chemezov - CEO of Rostec, with deep roots in the security elite
Aleksei Dyumin - Former bodyguard turned top official in the security apparatus
Dmitrii Mironov - Senior aide and former security service officer, close to Putin
Perplexity meni, da se bo dyumin prvi obrnil proti putinu. Sam bi gledal v smer petruseva. Res je da sta s kaputinom skupaj že dolgo, a ce se ga petruseva naveliča, je dovolj močen da ga odstrani.
Key Siloviki Figures (2025)
Andrei Belousov - Minister of Defense (civilian economist, not a classical silovik but crucial for the war effort)
Sergei Shoigu - Secretary of the Security Council, previously long-serving Minister of Defense, still highly influential
Nikolai Patrushev - Former Secretary of the Security Council, retains influence as a close advisor
Aleksandr Bortnikov - Director of the FSB (Federal Security Service), a central silovik position
Sergey Naryshkin - Head of the SVR (Foreign Intelligence Service), prominent in state security
Viktor Zolotov - Head of the Russian National Guard (Rosgvardiya), in charge of internal security and loyal to Putin
Aleksandr Bastrykin - Head of the Investigative Committee, leading major state investigations
Igor Sechin - CEO of Rosneft, a powerful former security official closely linked to Putin
Sergey Chemezov - CEO of Rostec, with deep roots in the security elite
Aleksei Dyumin - Former bodyguard turned top official in the security apparatus
Dmitrii Mironov - Senior aide and former security service officer, close to Putin
Perplexity meni, da se bo dyumin prvi obrnil proti putinu. Sam bi gledal v smer petruseva. Res je da sta s kaputinom skupaj že dolgo, a ce se ga petruseva naveliča, je dovolj močen da ga odstrani.