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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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fikus_ ::
NATO je 1991 izgubil pomen, za katerega je bil ustanovljen.
Ampak nekateri so imeli "daljnosežno videnje" ter širili NATO naprej.
Rusi silijo države v NATO. Lani so prislili še dve, ki sploh nista imeli interesa.
Uporabil si napačno besedo! Namesto "prisila" bi bilo bolj prav "motivacija".
Je pa tudi res, da s to lansko "motivacijo" Usa ni imela nič proti in je sprejela z odprtimi rokami.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
pierch ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Zakaj menite, da Slovenija vojaške ladje ne rabi?
Če imaš morje labiš ladje in to je to.
To je tako kot, da bi rekli, da Singapur kot mestna državica ne rabi vojaškega letalstva.
Osebno nisem tega mnenja, ampak samo da ta Triglav ni najbolj primeren. Upam sicer da bo po vseh nadgradnjah manj odvisen od ruskih delov in komponent, ker drugače nima ravno smisla.
Pierch
fikus_ ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Zakaj menite, da Slovenija vojaške ladje ne rabi?
Če imaš morje labiš ladje in to je to.
To je tako kot, da bi rekli, da Singapur kot mestna državica ne rabi vojaškega letalstva.
Za košček morja, ki je malo večji od banje, ne rabiš vojaške ladje. Rabiš samo 2-3 uporabne policijske čolne.
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Zakaj menite, da Slovenija vojaške ladje ne rabi?
Če imaš morje labiš ladje in to je to.
To je tako kot, da bi rekli, da Singapur kot mestna državica ne rabi vojaškega letalstva.
Osebno nisem tega mnenja, ampak samo da ta Triglav ni najbolj primeren. Upam sicer da bo po vseh nadgradnjah manj odvisen od ruskih delov in komponent, ker drugače nima ravno smisla.
Saj motor ima nemški, pa je tudi ribnil v garanciji.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
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pierch ::
Saj motor ima nemški, pa je tudi ribnil v garanciji.Sej to je moj point. MTU motor vsaj lahko zamenjajo, ruskega najverjetneje ne bi več mogli.
Pierch
Pac-Man ::
Ekonomsko se je UA pogajala z EU in RU. Ko je "zmagala" RU se je zgodila "barvna revolucija".
Teorija o barvnih revolucijah je idiotizem prve vrste
@49:30
The American Origins of Putin's Madness
After taking Crimea Russia knew they had lit the fuse on a divided unstable Ukraine so all they had to do was wait for Ukraine to dissolve into a civil war so that they could move in and mop it up. So they waited and waited and waited and when there weren't any uprisings Glazyev tried to organize them.
For 6 weeks Glazyev paid protesters to attack government buildings and stir up riots but the central government simply ignored them and so did most of the locals. The Civil War and breakup of Ukraine was just not going to happen on its own.
This perhaps should have been a sign that color revolution theory was wrong and you cannot in fact overthrow a government by giving a few thousand $ to NGOs after all. Russia had followed all the steps it had accused America of following precisely. It paid protesters, it sent agent provocateurs, it sent mobs to take over government buildings, it engaged in street theater, it broadcast fake news about how the banderites were coming to kill everyone and normal life just hummed along.
Instead Glazyev took it as a sign that the gay Anglo-Jewish Nazi CIA was working even harder behind the scenes to keep Ukraine stable after all.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fikus_ ::
"Teorija o barvnih revolucijah je idiotizem prve vrste"
To verjameš ti, realnost je drugačna.
To verjameš ti, realnost je drugačna.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
Pac-Man ::
Realnost je taka, da jo je v Ukrajini poskusila izvest Rusija, neuspešno.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fikus_ ::
Pred tem so bili na oblasti RU naklonjeni ljudje, tako da RU ni potrebovala barvne revolucije.
Tako da se spet motiš!
Tako da se spet motiš!
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
Bauc ::
NATO je 1991 izgubil pomen, za katerega je bil ustanovljen.
Ampak nekateri so imeli "daljnosežno videnje" ter širili NATO naprej.
Rusi silijo države v NATO. Lani so prislili še dve, ki sploh nista imeli interesa.
Uporabil si napačno besedo! Namesto "prisila" bi bilo bolj prav "motivacija".
Je pa tudi res, da s to lansko "motivacijo" Usa ni imela nič proti in je sprejela z odprtimi rokami.
Če bi NATO leta 1990 razpadel bi ga zdaj morali ustanoviti na novo. Ponovno zaradi Rusije.
Bauc ::
Pac-Man ::
Pred tem so bili na oblasti RU naklonjeni ljudje, tako da RU ni potrebovala barvne revolucije.
Tako da se spet motiš!
RU naklonjeni ljudje, ki so silili v EU
@14:00
How Ukraine's Fake Culture War Became a Real Geopolitical Conflict
By their last two years in government Yulia and Yushchenko were just actively trying to sabotage one another. This set the perfect stage for Yanukovych to make a comeback.
Now that Ukraine had an american style electoral system Yanukovych dumped his Russian advisors and got American ones and they got to work selling him as the perfect candidate to get Ukraine into the EU which was a core issue for Kiev's middle class.
See for all the talk about pro-western or pro-russian politicians all politicians have to both keep Russia happy and keep Ukraine on path to European integration. Yanukovych was no different.
Why do Ukrainians need the EU and every other country seems to want to flee it?
Well reason one is just empirical. Ukraine looks at a country like Poland which in the early 90s was in the same place as Ukraine but is now three times richer.
Reason two the EU creates a critical check on the power of oligarchs and their corruption. Joining the EU transforms Ukraine's oligarchs from being big fish in a little pond to a small fish in a big pond.
If a ukrainian billionaire bribes or threatens a Ukrainian official they'll likely get what they want but if that same billionaire tries the same thing on a European bureaucrat the response would be something like "I'm sorry who are you? Am I supposed to be scared? Uh yeah, no, come back when you've killed as many people as Deutsche bank, thanks."
And reason three even the oligarchs want to go to the EU because what they lose in power they gain in the ability to go legit and cash out for huge profits.
And so Yanukovych used the fact that he was seen as Russia's guy to pitch himself as the perfect leader to get Ukraine in the EU while not setting off Russia.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Chalky ::
The first M1 Abrams tank Ukraine army was destroyed on the Avdeyevka route
Uničen s strani nekega majhnega drončka ki je vrgel nekaj granat. Ukrajinci nič boljši od Rusov. Očitno ne razumejo da nima veze ali je Abrams ali Leopard če se mislijo z Abramsom peljati po fronti brez zaščite potem je samo vprašanje časa kdaj bodo Rusi vse Abramse uničili. Kje si še videl da greš z Abramsom po odprtem teremu kjer ni nikogar okoli in pričakuješ da ga ne bo dron iz zraka uničil? Bolje da Ukrajini ne pošljejo niti enega tanka več in da se fokusirajo na drone.
Naj raje pošljejo MQ9 drone bo učinek 100 boljši.
Uničen s strani nekega majhnega drončka ki je vrgel nekaj granat. Ukrajinci nič boljši od Rusov. Očitno ne razumejo da nima veze ali je Abrams ali Leopard če se mislijo z Abramsom peljati po fronti brez zaščite potem je samo vprašanje časa kdaj bodo Rusi vse Abramse uničili. Kje si še videl da greš z Abramsom po odprtem teremu kjer ni nikogar okoli in pričakuješ da ga ne bo dron iz zraka uničil? Bolje da Ukrajini ne pošljejo niti enega tanka več in da se fokusirajo na drone.
Naj raje pošljejo MQ9 drone bo učinek 100 boljši.
mtosev ::
Madžarski parlament je potrdil švedsko članstvo v Natu.
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Telbanc ::
https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status...
":Robert Fico says NATO states "are considering sending troops to Ukraine on a bilateral basis" -- whatever that means.
"For me, today's meeting is a confirmation that the West's strategy has completely failed when it comes to Ukraine. Nevertheless, I want to come to this meeting constructively prepared. Although the theses that we discussed make my body shudder.
A number of NATO and EU member states are considering sending troops on a bilateral basis to the territory of Ukraine. We are assessing the security of such proposals and cannot prevent an individual EU or NATO member country from concluding such a bilateral agreement with Ukraine.
Equally, we say that this will not fulfill the purpose that is expected of it, that certain pressure will be exerted on the President of the Russian Federation and the Russian administration and that some concessions will be made. On the contrary, we believe that such a decision will lead to a huge escalation of tension.
Deputy Speaker of the Slovak Parliament Lubos Blaha:
"The West is pushing us into World War III. We've all been on the edge of it since last night. What is going on in Paris anyway?
Robert Fico confirmed today that some Western countries want to send their soldiers to Ukraine - and no one can predict the consequences. There is a real threat of nuclear conflict. So far, the West has waged a proxy war against Russia, but a new phase is beginning.
The West will enter into an open and direct military conflict with Russia - this is just a millimeter away from an all-out war.
Slovakia wants nothing to do with this.""
No, tole se menda hecajo al kaj? Kar se tiče tankov je najboljši nemški leopard 2. Ostalo, vržeš gor eno bombico in prec zakuhajo.
":Robert Fico says NATO states "are considering sending troops to Ukraine on a bilateral basis" -- whatever that means.
"For me, today's meeting is a confirmation that the West's strategy has completely failed when it comes to Ukraine. Nevertheless, I want to come to this meeting constructively prepared. Although the theses that we discussed make my body shudder.
A number of NATO and EU member states are considering sending troops on a bilateral basis to the territory of Ukraine. We are assessing the security of such proposals and cannot prevent an individual EU or NATO member country from concluding such a bilateral agreement with Ukraine.
Equally, we say that this will not fulfill the purpose that is expected of it, that certain pressure will be exerted on the President of the Russian Federation and the Russian administration and that some concessions will be made. On the contrary, we believe that such a decision will lead to a huge escalation of tension.
Deputy Speaker of the Slovak Parliament Lubos Blaha:
"The West is pushing us into World War III. We've all been on the edge of it since last night. What is going on in Paris anyway?
Robert Fico confirmed today that some Western countries want to send their soldiers to Ukraine - and no one can predict the consequences. There is a real threat of nuclear conflict. So far, the West has waged a proxy war against Russia, but a new phase is beginning.
The West will enter into an open and direct military conflict with Russia - this is just a millimeter away from an all-out war.
Slovakia wants nothing to do with this.""
No, tole se menda hecajo al kaj? Kar se tiče tankov je najboljši nemški leopard 2. Ostalo, vržeš gor eno bombico in prec zakuhajo.
Hvala bogu, nisem cepljen za covid-19.
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bbbbbb2015 ::
The first M1 Abrams tank Ukraine army was destroyed on the Avdeyevka route
Uničen s strani nekega majhnega drončka ki je vrgel nekaj granat. Ukrajinci nič boljši od Rusov. Očitno ne razumejo da nima veze ali je Abrams ali Leopard če se mislijo z Abramsom peljati po fronti brez zaščite potem je samo vprašanje časa kdaj bodo Rusi vse Abramse uničili. Kje si še videl da greš z Abramsom po odprtem teremu kjer ni nikogar okoli in pričakuješ da ga ne bo dron iz zraka uničil? Bolje da Ukrajini ne pošljejo niti enega tanka več in da se fokusirajo na drone.
Naj raje pošljejo MQ9 drone bo učinek 100 boljši.
Oryx tega ni potrdil. Iz posnetka, ki bi naj to prikazoval, ni videti, da bi to bil Abrams tank. Bomo videli, če in ko bo to kdo verodostojen potrdil.
Pac-Man ::
Pro-ruski Fičo se heca, da.
Se bi pa znalo zgodit, da gre par vojaških enot na team building v Ukrajino. Strogo v privatni kapaciteti.
Se bi pa znalo zgodit, da gre par vojaških enot na team building v Ukrajino. Strogo v privatni kapaciteti.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
TESKAn ::
A je tam tudi kak military surplus shop z nekaj tanki na zalogi?
Uf! Uf! Je rekel Vinetou in se skril za skalo,
ki jo je prav v ta namen nosil s seboj.
ki jo je prav v ta namen nosil s seboj.
Pac-Man ::
NATO vojske so zaposlenim prijazna podjetja in bodo dovolile privatno uporabo službenih vozil.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Madžarski parlament je potrdil švedsko članstvo v Natu.
Madžari bodo "kupili" tudi štiri JAS 39 Gripne. Verjetno pa so to izsilili. Pa še izjava Orbana:
"Biti član Nata skupaj z drugo državo pomeni, da smo pripravljeni umreti drug za drugega."
"Dogovor o obrambnih in vojaških zmogljivostih pomaga obnoviti zaupanje med državama."
Škoda ni Golob malo zakompliciral, da bi nam "prodali" vsaj enega.
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Pac-Man ::
Surferji, pazite se, Dugin vas bo strpal v geto.
https://twitter.com/SimplyMdawini/statu...
https://twitter.com/SimplyMdawini/statu...
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Dugin is an idiot's idea of what an intelligent man sounds like.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
OutOfTheBox ::
Madžarski parlament je potrdil švedsko članstvo v Natu.
Madžari bodo "kupili" tudi štiri JAS 39 Gripne. Verjetno pa so to izsilili. Pa še izjava Orbana:
"Biti član Nata skupaj z drugo državo pomeni, da smo pripravljeni umreti drug za drugega."
"Dogovor o obrambnih in vojaških zmogljivostih pomaga obnoviti zaupanje med državama."
Škoda ni Golob malo zakompliciral, da bi nam "prodali" vsaj enega.
Orban se je pa kar pomehkužil odkar sta se z Đorđo Meloni zbližala. Kar se tiče pošiljanja NATO vojakov v Ukrajino, sem odločno proti. Kar bi morali delat je pošiljat dovolj (dobrega) orožja, da se sami branijo in to je vse kar Ukrajina potrebuje.
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fur80 ::
https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status...
":Robert Fico says NATO states "are considering sending troops to Ukraine on a bilateral basis" -- whatever that means.
"For me, today's meeting is a confirmation that the West's strategy has completely failed when it comes to Ukraine. Nevertheless, I want to come to this meeting constructively prepared. Although the theses that we discussed make my body shudder.
A number of NATO and EU member states are considering sending troops on a bilateral basis to the territory of Ukraine. We are assessing the security of such proposals and cannot prevent an individual EU or NATO member country from concluding such a bilateral agreement with Ukraine.
Equally, we say that this will not fulfill the purpose that is expected of it, that certain pressure will be exerted on the President of the Russian Federation and the Russian administration and that some concessions will be made. On the contrary, we believe that such a decision will lead to a huge escalation of tension.
Deputy Speaker of the Slovak Parliament Lubos Blaha:
"The West is pushing us into World War III. We've all been on the edge of it since last night. What is going on in Paris anyway?
Robert Fico confirmed today that some Western countries want to send their soldiers to Ukraine - and no one can predict the consequences. There is a real threat of nuclear conflict. So far, the West has waged a proxy war against Russia, but a new phase is beginning.
The West will enter into an open and direct military conflict with Russia - this is just a millimeter away from an all-out war.
Slovakia wants nothing to do with this.""
No, tole se menda hecajo al kaj? Kar se tiče tankov je najboljši nemški leopard 2. Ostalo, vržeš gor eno bombico in prec zakuhajo.
Ne rabi NATO v Ukrajino, če že zrihtajo, da F-16 vzletajo iz ene od NATO članice, Rus pa ne upa spustiti rakete na to državo so že zmagali. Po vzoru Rusije, ko letala vzletajo tudi iz Belorusije.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/markmackinnon/statu...
Russia has added Avdiivka, NATO has added Sweden. The latter even joined voluntarily…
16s dolg video
https://twitter.com/maria_drutska/statu...
- If Putin calls you at night, will you pick up the phone?
- How will he call me? He doesn't have a mobile phone, and I don't have a telegraph from 1917.
(At the press conference with President Zelensky)
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Pac-Man ::
"Jest travo" je precej popularen meme
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1...
https://twitter.com/FranticGoat/status/...
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1...
Quote of the day: “We will eat grass rather than become a Russian colony again.”
—Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski on 🇵🇱 motivation to spend boosting defense spending to 4 percent of GDP.
https://twitter.com/FranticGoat/status/...
I am reminded of another 'eat grass' quote.
“We(Pakistan) will eat grass, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own (Atom bomb).... We have no other choice!”
― Zulfikar Ali Bhutto
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Hudobec82 ::
Ciril svari civile, naj ne hodijo čez Krimski most.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/hur-announ...
Očitno so tako prepričani v zmogljivost svojih novih Tavrusov?, da surprise attack kle nima več nobenga pomena.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/hur-announ...
Očitno so tako prepričani v zmogljivost svojih novih Tavrusov?, da surprise attack kle nima več nobenga pomena.
Comandante ::
Ciril svari civile, naj ne hodijo čez Krimski most.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/hur-announ...
Očitno so tako prepričani v zmogljivost svojih novih Tavrusov?, da surprise attack kle nima več nobenga pomena.
Ne bo Taurusov. Je Olaf eksplicitno pojasni, da nima jajc tega poslati, ker eskalacija.
Hudobec82 ::
Comandante je izjavil:
Ciril svari civile, naj ne hodijo čez Krimski most.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/hur-announ...
Očitno so tako prepričani v zmogljivost svojih novih Tavrusov?, da surprise attack kle nima več nobenga pomena.
Ne bo Taurusov. Je Olaf eksplicitno pojasni, da nima jajc tega poslati, ker eskalacija.
https://kyivindependent.com/germany-pre...
Pa vseen se nekej kuha.
Pac-Man ::
Nit o NYT članku o sodelovanju med CIA in HUR (ukrajinska vojaška obveščevalna, šef je Budanov)
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1761...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1761...
Best thing you'll read all weekend, on CIA-HUR cooperation. I'll highlight the key bits below:
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Comandante ::
AGM-158 JASSM naj posljejo pa mir, zaloge so in proizvodnja tece na polno. Obesijo se na F-16, imajo sicer nekaj manj kot 400km dosega, ampak good enough. Saj 500km pride prav zgolj, ce bodo na Moskvo zgali. Obstaja tudi -ER varianta s skoraj 1000km dosega, ampak teh zagotovo ne bodo dobili.
fikus_ ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
The first M1 Abrams tank Ukraine army was destroyed on the Avdeyevka route
Uničen s strani nekega majhnega drončka ki je vrgel nekaj granat. Ukrajinci nič boljši od Rusov. Očitno ne razumejo da nima veze ali je Abrams ali Leopard če se mislijo z Abramsom peljati po fronti brez zaščite potem je samo vprašanje časa kdaj bodo Rusi vse Abramse uničili. Kje si še videl da greš z Abramsom po odprtem teremu kjer ni nikogar okoli in pričakuješ da ga ne bo dron iz zraka uničil? Bolje da Ukrajini ne pošljejo niti enega tanka več in da se fokusirajo na drone.
Naj raje pošljejo MQ9 drone bo učinek 100 boljši.
Oryx tega ni potrdil. Iz posnetka, ki bi naj to prikazoval, ni videti, da bi to bil Abrams tank. Bomo videli, če in ko bo to kdo verodostojen potrdil.
So posnetki na YT, tako da bo kar drzalo.
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O NATO vojaskih vajah na V Poljske pa ni nic govora.
Pred kaksnim tednom sem zasledil ideje nekih politikov iz GB, da bi poslali NATO vojsko na Z UA in na mejo z BLR, da bi s tem sprostili UA vojake za premestitev na JV UA.
So pa tudi ideje, da bi eskalirali zadeve na PL UA meji, da bi NATO imel razlog na Z UA poslati vojsko.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
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asdf_jklc ::
Mimogrede a kdo ve kaj več o tem: https://czechia.postsen.com/world/18621.... Nabijanje al se še bolj evropski politiki meša?
Telbanc ::
Pro-ruski Fičo se heca, da.
Se bi pa znalo zgodit, da gre par vojaških enot na team building v Ukrajino. Strogo v privatni kapaciteti.
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/17...
"Some EU and NATO countries are considering the possibility of sending their military to Ukraine on the basis of bilateral agreements, Slovak Prime Minister Fico said.
He stressed that Slovakia would not join them.
RT in Russian.
These "some EU and NATO countries" "on the basis of bilateral agreements" will also receive missile strikes from Russia. This will be the direct participation of these countries in the war with Russia and the entire territory of these countries will be a legitimate target of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation."
Upam, da se to zgodi brez nas.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1...
Hvala bogu, nisem cepljen za covid-19.
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Pac-Man ::
Ne skrbi, saj bomo vse zanikali. Kot Rusi.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-2...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-2...
Ten Russian soldiers captured in eastern Ukraine crossed the border "by accident", Russian military sources are quoted as saying.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Rusi se pripravljajo na izgubo mostu, lažje bodo potem železnico flikali kot most.
About a month ago, we posted a video of how Russia is building a railway through the occupied territories to Crimea. Another fresh video today. Kerch will soon no longer need the bridge, trains will run through the occupation.
https://twitter.com/rusnia_idenahui/sta...
Russia is preparing for the loss of the Crimean bridge and is actively building a new railway line in the occupied south of Ukraine
Satellite images show preparatory work for the construction of the railway. Thus, Russia plans to unite the occupied territories of Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia regions.
The village of Osypenko will become a hub station, along with a military training ground near the village of Novopetrivka, which the Russian military actively uses for training and deployment of personnel.
https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/status...
About a month ago, we posted a video of how Russia is building a railway through the occupied territories to Crimea. Another fresh video today. Kerch will soon no longer need the bridge, trains will run through the occupation.
https://twitter.com/rusnia_idenahui/sta...
Russia is preparing for the loss of the Crimean bridge and is actively building a new railway line in the occupied south of Ukraine
Satellite images show preparatory work for the construction of the railway. Thus, Russia plans to unite the occupied territories of Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia regions.
The village of Osypenko will become a hub station, along with a military training ground near the village of Novopetrivka, which the Russian military actively uses for training and deployment of personnel.
https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/status...
Kresnik ::
Pro-ruski Fičo se heca, da.
Se bi pa znalo zgodit, da gre par vojaških enot na team building v Ukrajino. Strogo v privatni kapaciteti.
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/17...
"Some EU and NATO countries are considering the possibility of sending their military to Ukraine on the basis of bilateral agreements, Slovak Prime Minister Fico said.
He stressed that Slovakia would not join them.
RT in Russian.
These "some EU and NATO countries" "on the basis of bilateral agreements" will also receive missile strikes from Russia. This will be the direct participation of these countries in the war with Russia and the entire territory of these countries will be a legitimate target of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation."
Upam, da se to zgodi brez nas.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1...
Realno se mi zdi, da so te drzave kake bolj resne drzave, ki si jih Rusija ne upa raketirat, ker bo cez eno uro v isti meri letelo nazaj. Verjmi mi, da so majhne ribe tu pametno tiho.
BorutO ::
Če so pa že mislim da okrog 2008 vabili UA v NATO, tako da ima tvoja razlaga napako.
Spet lažeš!
Dejansko je res. Na vrhu Nata v Bukarešti, leta 2008, so Ukrajino in Gruzijo res vabili v Nato. Ampak izjava je bila previdna in ni določila točnega časovnega okvira za njuno članstvo, tako da to izjavo oz. povabilo lahko štejemo kot za "možno" članico Nata, ki so jo izrekli za tako, mimogrede.
Ampak v času vladavine janukoviča, so se možnosti za včlanitev Ukrajine v Nato zmanjšale oziroma so kar izginile, ker se je janukovič nagibal k putinu, kateremu je on bil lutka. Vsi vemo, da je janukovič na svojo pest sprejel zakon, ki je omogočal uporabo ruskega jezika kot regionalnega jezika v območjih, kjer večinoma živijo oz. so živeli rusko govoreči del prebivalstva. Ta zakon je v praksi omogočil širšo uporabo ruskega jezika v javnem življenju in uradnih zadevah na jugu in zahodu države. To so Ukrajinci videli kot korak nazaj k prizadevanju k utrjevanju ukrajinskega jezika, identitete, da škodi razvoju in uporabi ukrajinskega jezika, ter da spodbuja rusko vplivanje v ukrajinskih zadevah.
Ko je na oblast prišel Zelenko, ki je usmerjen ukrajinskemu narodu, je uporabo ruskega jezika v ukrajini postopoma zmanjševal, da popolnoma izgine v Ukrajini, kar je putinu dvignilo pritisk, ker se ukrajina oddaljuje od rusije in njegovih zastavljenih ciljev, zato jo je pač napadel.
Zanj so Zelenko in ukrajinci izdajalci rusije in nacisti, ker se nočejo priključiti njegovim sanjam, zato pa počne kar pač počne. Boli njega k. koliko ukrajincev bodo njegovi vojaki pobili, saj so to zanj vsi izdajalci. Kaj se pa zgodi z ruskimi izdajalci, pa vsi vemo kako končajo, beremo že dobro leto o nih.
Chalky ::
Danes črni dan za Ukrajino saj naj bi izgubili 3 kose pomembnega sofisticiranega orožja in sicer Abramsa, nasams ter ceaser 8x8. Ukrajinci počnejo povsem enake oslarije kot Rusi. Tako bodo po hitrem postopku izgubili vse Abrams tanke. Pa tako je Zelinski govoril kako so pomembni.
Jaz pa še zdaj ne razumem zakaj Američani niso poslali mq9 dronov medtem ko Ukrajinci že 2 leti čakajo f-16. Verjetno bi bilo bolje da Evropa neha pošiljati tanke in ostala bojna vozila ker več kot očitno bo na koncu vse uničeno. Abramsa je uničil en majhen dronček ki je vrgel nanj nekaj granat.
Bolj pametno bi bilo da gre ves denar za drone, manjše in večje. Z droni ti sploh ni potrebno pošiljati vojske na bojno linijo. Droni so enostavno prihodnost. Vse skupaj spominja na podoben preskok kot iz mečev v smodnik in pištole. Zahod spet zamuja. Še Houtiji uporabljajo 10k vredne drone medtem ko Američani uporabljajo rakete za 2 milijona.
Abrams tank je povsem neuporaben v tem primeru.
Jaz pa še zdaj ne razumem zakaj Američani niso poslali mq9 dronov medtem ko Ukrajinci že 2 leti čakajo f-16. Verjetno bi bilo bolje da Evropa neha pošiljati tanke in ostala bojna vozila ker več kot očitno bo na koncu vse uničeno. Abramsa je uničil en majhen dronček ki je vrgel nanj nekaj granat.
Bolj pametno bi bilo da gre ves denar za drone, manjše in večje. Z droni ti sploh ni potrebno pošiljati vojske na bojno linijo. Droni so enostavno prihodnost. Vse skupaj spominja na podoben preskok kot iz mečev v smodnik in pištole. Zahod spet zamuja. Še Houtiji uporabljajo 10k vredne drone medtem ko Američani uporabljajo rakete za 2 milijona.
Abrams tank je povsem neuporaben v tem primeru.
Comandante ::
Danes črni dan za Ukrajino saj naj bi izgubili 3 kose pomembnega sofisticiranega orožja in sicer Abramsa, nasams ter ceaser 8x8. Ukrajinci počnejo povsem enake oslarije kot Rusi. Tako bodo po hitrem postopku izgubili vse Abrams tanke. Pa tako je Zelinski govoril kako so pomembni.
Jaz pa še zdaj ne razumem zakaj Američani niso poslali mq9 dronov medtem ko Ukrajinci že 2 leti čakajo f-16. Verjetno bi bilo bolje da Evropa neha pošiljati tanke in ostala bojna vozila ker več kot očitno bo na koncu vse uničeno. Abramsa je uničil en majhen dronček ki je vrgel nanj nekaj granat.
Bolj pametno bi bilo da gre ves denar za drone, manjše in večje. Z droni ti sploh ni potrebno pošiljati vojske na bojno linijo. Droni so enostavno prihodnost. Vse skupaj spominja na podoben preskok kot iz mečev v smodnik in pištole. Zahod spet zamuja. Še Houtiji uporabljajo 10k vredne drone medtem ko Američani uporabljajo rakete za 2 milijona.
Abrams tank je povsem neuporaben v tem primeru.
Abrams tank je cisto uporaben kos opreme, in je eden boljsih tankov na svetu. Je pa zasnovan, kot vsa ostala zahodna oprema, za combined arms operacije. Ce nimas kontrole nad zracnim prostorom (kar velja za obe strani), se bo dogajalo to, da jih bos fasal iz zraka. Seveda je tanka skoda za to. Prav tako je skoda rinit cez 3km minsko polje, pokrito z artilerijo in droni, ker ne bos prisel cez.
Droni imajo svojo vlogo, sicer pa so IFVji in tanki se vedno kljucnega pomena, ko je treba sovraznika zasuti s svincem. Eno z drugim.
gozdar1 ::
Rusi, lokali samo za belce.
It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a "whites only" policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/sout...
It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a "whites only" policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/sout...
borut_p ::
Zanimivo kako so zacel svicat zdaj, ko ua izgublja na celi fronti. Mediji ze take pisejo da se ti zelodec obraca.
Ru je zagnala vojasko proizvodnjo, cez 5 let bo imela nazaj vse kapacitete ki jih je izgubila.
Tak da ja ... se malo cincanja pa ua ne bo vec
Ru je zagnala vojasko proizvodnjo, cez 5 let bo imela nazaj vse kapacitete ki jih je izgubila.
Tak da ja ... se malo cincanja pa ua ne bo vec
Malidelničar ::
borut p: meje Ukrajine so nespremenljive in jih je Rusija leta 1991 potrdila z dokumentom iz Budimpešte. In Ukrajina je bila pod Sovjeti na nek način mednarodno določena za v obdobju 1945-1991, ko je SZ izsilila (če morda ne veste), da sta poleg SZ članstvo v OZN imeli tudi Ukrajina ter Belorusija. Če pa Ruse kaj moti, so zgodovinsko mejo Ukrajine postavili boljševiki, ki so itak vedno na koncu zagovarjali ruski interes.
Tako da mednarodno pravo je jasno.
Tako da mednarodno pravo je jasno.
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
Notnow ::
Zanimivo kako so zacel svicat zdaj, ko ua izgublja na celi fronti. Mediji ze take pisejo da se ti zelodec obraca.
Ru je zagnala vojasko proizvodnjo, cez 5 let bo imela nazaj vse kapacitete ki jih je izgubila.
Tak da ja ... se malo cincanja pa ua ne bo vec
Nemogoče..Pa vse skupaj je začelo propadat,po padcu avdijevke..pa mi je paco zatrdil,da ne bo razlike.še fru fru je to potrdil..Verjetno gre za naključje.
Pac-Man ::
Tempo se je pospešil, ampak vseeno govorimo o par 100m na dan in zavzemanju ruševin. Ni to thunder run na Kijev.
Glavni problem ni padec Avdiivke, temveč pomanjkanje streliva. Kongres je IMO jutri z dopusta, upam da se bo kmalu kaj premaknilo.
Glavni problem ni padec Avdiivke, temveč pomanjkanje streliva. Kongres je IMO jutri z dopusta, upam da se bo kmalu kaj premaknilo.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fikus_ ::
Pred dnevi ste se razburjali in obtoževali Putina, da je ubil Navalnega, kot kaže je včasih bolje biti tiho in počakati na razplet. Sicer vas razumem, ste pod vplivom propagande zahodnih MSM.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/17...
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28630
Sedaj pa še vprašanje, kako dolgo bo Kyrylo Budanov ostal na vrhu Ukraine's Military Intelligence?
So krožile informacije, da so potekala pogajanja med RU in Usa, da bi Navalnega menjali pa je prej umrl.
DE naj bi zavirala menjavo, tako vsaj piše Bild:
https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/a...
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/17...
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28630
Sedaj pa še vprašanje, kako dolgo bo Kyrylo Budanov ostal na vrhu Ukraine's Military Intelligence?
So krožile informacije, da so potekala pogajanja med RU in Usa, da bi Navalnega menjali pa je prej umrl.
DE naj bi zavirala menjavo, tako vsaj piše Bild:
https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/a...
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
asdf_jklc ::
Ameriske pomoci UA je konec. Marsikje smo ze povedali, da je to zacetek konca UA in zacetek vojne z natom. Vsekakor ne gre za nakljujcje, da ima cel EU vrh takoj ko je zacela UA jasno izgublnat vojno.
O ruskih prascih ne bom, ampak americani so odlicno zafukal Evropo: unicl gospodarstvo, pomagal skuhat vojno sedaj pa prodajajo orozje in evropska podjetja se slino k njim. No saj je logicno, tu bodo sam se rusevine
O ruskih prascih ne bom, ampak americani so odlicno zafukal Evropo: unicl gospodarstvo, pomagal skuhat vojno sedaj pa prodajajo orozje in evropska podjetja se slino k njim. No saj je logicno, tu bodo sam se rusevine
Pac-Man ::
Macron je nehal blokirat nakup tujega streliva z EU sredstvi
https://www.ft.com/content/83b8a80d-ab2...
https://www.ft.com/content/83b8a80d-ab2...
Macron said France would join an initiative led by the Czech Republic to make emergency purchases of artillery shells for Ukraine from non-EU countries.
The policy shift signals France will lift its previous objections to using shared EU funds to buy artillery from suppliers outside the bloc, unlocking hundreds of millions of euros in additional finance.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Master_Yoda ::
Pred dnevi ste se razburjali in obtoževali Putina, da je ubil Navalnega, kot kaže je včasih bolje biti tiho in počakati na razplet. Sicer vas razumem, ste pod vplivom propagande zahodnih MSM.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/17...
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28630
Sedaj pa še vprašanje, kako dolgo bo Kyrylo Budanov ostal na vrhu Ukraine's Military Intelligence?
So krožile informacije, da so potekala pogajanja med RU in Usa, da bi Navalnega menjali pa je prej umrl.
DE naj bi zavirala menjavo, tako vsaj piše Bild:
https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/a...
Ti se hecas ? Tudi ce je umrl zaradi strdka ga je Putin ubil. Samo pac z zakasnitvijo. Ali mislis da so gate prepojene z novicokom, nato pa zaprtje v samici v sibiriji z vprasanje koliko hrane, ter "sprehodov" kjer je clovek na miru non-stop blagodejno za zdravje ?
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: Master_Yoda ()
Bauc ::
Pred dnevi ste se razburjali in obtoževali Putina, da je ubil Navalnega, kot kaže je včasih bolje biti tiho in počakati na razplet. Sicer vas razumem, ste pod vplivom propagande zahodnih MSM.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/17...
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28630
Sedaj pa še vprašanje, kako dolgo bo Kyrylo Budanov ostal na vrhu Ukraine's Military Intelligence?
So krožile informacije, da so potekala pogajanja med RU in Usa, da bi Navalnega menjali pa je prej umrl.
DE naj bi zavirala menjavo, tako vsaj piše Bild:
https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/a...
A zdaj pa naekrat spet verjemeš ukrajincem in MSM?
bbbbbb2015 ::
Danes črni dan za Ukrajino saj naj bi izgubili 3 kose pomembnega sofisticiranega orožja in sicer Abramsa, nasams ter ceaser 8x8. Ukrajinci počnejo povsem enake oslarije kot Rusi. Tako bodo po hitrem postopku izgubili vse Abrams tanke. Pa tako je Zelinski govoril kako so pomembni.
Pa kaj to brezveze lažeš?
To so potrjene izgube Ukrajincev:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/a...
Na spisku je en Caesar 8x8 iz leta 2013, pogorel.
To pa imaš potrjene ruske izgube:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/a...
Razmerje v izgubah je cca 1 : 3, torej Rusi izgubljajo 3x več opreme. Sevea je potrebno povedati, da so bile ruske izgube na začetku gromozanske tolkli so jih Javelini, droni, NLAW. Zdaj se je to popravilo in nimajo takih ekscesivnih izgub.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: bbbbbb2015 ()
Pac-Man ::
Čigav vojaško-industrijski kompleks?
https://twitter.com/APHClarkson/status/...
https://twitter.com/APHClarkson/status/...
According to official data, there are roughly 2 million Russians working in military industrial complex now.
Which raises the question of whether a Putin regime with no other economic sources of growth apart from military production can structurally even afford to abandon the politics and culture of endless war
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.