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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

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Bauc ::

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Ta tip nima blagega pojma zakaj se gre. Poglej njegove napovedi iz preteklosti. Tip ki prešel iz komentiranja igric v vojaškega stratega. Po Youtubu je polno podobnih moronov.


Verjamamem da boli dejstvo da so Rusi v defenzivi zavzeli več ozemlja kot Ukrajinci v njihovi slavni ofenzivi podprtimi z milijardami dolarjev in doniranega natovega arsenal. Sprijaznite se da je ukrajina, kot usa proxy,na veliko popusila in bo sedaj, zaradi konflikta v israelu, potisnjena na stranski tir.

Kaj so Rusi zavzeli v zadnjih mesecih? :D Podkrepi svoje trditve z kredibilnimi viri. Po tvoji logiki je itak Izrael prav tako usa proxy.

Pac-Man ::

video s podnapisi

https://twitter.com/Belsat_Eng/status/1...

Russification of Ukrainian schools in occupied territories is in full swing...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Intervju s podžupanom Buče, ki je na obisku v Sloveniji. Po njegovem pripovedovanju so Rusi na začetku res mislili, da bo šlo okrog Kijeva več ali manj za policijsko akcijo.

https://siol.net/novice/slovenija/pogov...

Kot je povedal podžupan, so Rusi ob prihodu prebivalce prepričevali, da nimajo slabih namenov. "Naša policija je prejela dva ranjena Rusa in ju odpeljala v bolnišnico. Skupaj s policistom sem šel do njiju in ju neposredno vprašal, kaj se dogaja, kaj hočejo. Najprej sta pripovedovala naučeno zgodbo, da so samo na vojaških vajah, šele kasneje sta povedala, da so bili v Ukrajino poslani načrtno in da je cilj ruske vojske takoj okupirati Kijev ter vladi onemogočiti delovanje," pripoveduje Šapravski.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...
Russian propagandists suddenly found that the majority of parents in the so-called "liberated" areas of Ukraine do not want their children to study in the Russian language.
Apparently, this will stand in the way of "denazification" of Ukraine.

Ganon ::

Rusija, Arabska liga in Kitajska so pozvale k ustavitvi spopadov in vzpostavitvi trajenga miru. Ruski zunanji minister Sergej Lavrov je dejal, da so pogovori o t. i. rešitvi dveh držav edina pot naprej po koncu sovražnosti in pozval k sodelovanju držav, ki so zainteresirane za vzpostavitev trajnega mitu na Bližnjem vzhodu.


Lavrov pametuje o dveh državah in miru, medtem ko bi sami radi Ukrajino naredili rusko. Kdaj bodo ti pacienti odšli v večna lovišča?

Pac-Man ::

Ruski veleposlanik pri ZN je več ali manj priznal napad na Hrozo, video

https://twitter.com/bandera_khm/status/...

"The funeral of one of the nationalists was held in the village of Groza, many Ukrainian neo-Nazis were present there," - a Russian man at the UN justifies the attack on the civilian population

How can you be such a hypocritical abomination?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Sc0ut ::

Rusi označujejo kje so židje a hkrati se borijo proti nacistom. Wtf, kera pašteta v glavi...

https://twitter.com/secretsqrl123/statu...
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BorutO ::

The U.S. will assess what arms it can send Israel, based on what Israel forces need, and what the U.S. can afford to supply, Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said Monday. But Congress, which hasn't committed to additional Ukraine funding yet, must act, she said.

Congress must increase the Pentagon's capacity to expand production, and also pay for munitions, she said at a conference for the U.S. Army that kicked off Monday. "We need additional support from Congress so I hope we'll see that soon."


rusom očitno ne bo šlo tako po načrtih, kot so si očitno zamislili s temi vojnami rusija-Ukrajina, Armenija-Azerbajžan, Izrael-Palestina, državni udari v afriških državah itd ... rusi imajo z razlogom wagner.

Lesoto ::

https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1...
At the UN, Nebenzia justifies Russian strike in Hroza, claiming it targeted nationalist's funeral attended by Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
I made this video at the Hroza village funeral, where every family is now mourning their loss, and some families no longer exist.

scythe ::

BorutO je izjavil:

The U.S. will assess what arms it can send Israel, based on what Israel forces need, and what the U.S. can afford to supply, Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said Monday. But Congress, which hasn't committed to additional Ukraine funding yet, must act, she said.

Congress must increase the Pentagon's capacity to expand production, and also pay for munitions, she said at a conference for the U.S. Army that kicked off Monday. "We need additional support from Congress so I hope we'll see that soon."


rusom očitno ne bo šlo tako po načrtih, kot so si očitno zamislili s temi vojnami rusija-Ukrajina, Armenija-Azerbajžan, Izrael-Palestina, državni udari v afriških državah itd ... rusi imajo z razlogom wagner.



Takšne stvari gredo na roko USA vojaški industriji, posla bodo imeli za 10-15 let naprej. Samo poglejmo si naročila za F-35 in koliko let bodo rabili, da bodo vse dostavili.

Če pogledamo koliko denarja je USA dala za Ukrajino in koliko posla je dobila njihova vojaška industrija na račun vojne v Ukrajini, so to ¨drobtine¨ v Ukrajini proti prejetim naročilim.
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Lonsarg ::

Izraelci itak vse plačajo, tak da pomoč Izraeclem sploh ni pomoč ampak obični biznis.

Ni to kot Ukrajina kjer je plačala US in bo desetletja trajal da dobi nazaj od Ukrajine. Odvisno od uspešnosti Ukrajinske ekonomije po vojni, US je namreč dobila deal da določen % rasti GDPja dobi od Ukrajine, tak da če bo ekonomija slabo rasla so lahko na izgubi, če bo dobro rasla pa bo US lahko celo na dobičku. Ta deal je drgač zelo fajn za Ukrajince, ker s tem so se zagarantiral da jim bo US pomagala ekonomijo postavit na noge.

Nikjer pa nisem bral ali tudi EU preko takih dogovorov daje Ukrajini al EU daje direktno pomoč brez dogovora o nekem delnem vračilu?

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kow ::

ZDA so v Ukrajini na dobicku tudi, ce ne dobija centa nazaj. Demilitizirajo Rusko Federacijo kar pomeni, da bodo v primeru vojne med Kitajsko in ZDA veliko manjsi faktor. Morda celo preprecijo oz. zmanjsajo moznost za vecjo vojno s Kitajsko ter tako prihranijo bilijarde dolarjev.

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TESKAn ::

+ posodobijo zaloge orožja, ne da bi se mogli spraševat kaj naj s starim. Plus lahko vidijo, kaj deluje in kaj ne.
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ki jo je prav v ta namen nosil s seboj.

Pac-Man ::

Lonsarg je izjavil:

Izraelci itak vse plačajo, tak da pomoč Izraeclem sploh ni pomoč ampak obični biznis.


Niti ne.

Israel%E2%80%93United States relations @ Wikipedia

Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid: until February 2022, the United States had provided Israel US$150 billion (non-inflation-adjusted) in bilateral assistance.[1] In 1999, the US government signed a Memorandum of Understanding through which it committed to providing Israel with at least US$2.67 billion in military aid annually, for the following ten years; in 2009, the annual amount was raised to US$3 billion; and in 2019, the amount was raised again, now standing at a minimum of US$3.8 billion that the US is committed to providing Israel each year.[1]

Since 1972, the United States has also extended loan guarantees – a form of indirect U.S. assistance to Israel, as they enable Israel to borrow from commercial US banks at lower rates – to Israel to assist with housing shortages, Israel’s absorption of new Jewish immigrants and its economic recovery following the 2000-2003 recession, caused in part by the Second Intifada.[1] Moreover, the United States is Israel's largest trading partner, and Israel is the United States' 25th-largest trading partner; two-way trade totaled some $36 billion in 2013.[2] Bilateral trade increased to nearly $50 billion by 2023.[3]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Smrekar1 ::

Bauc je izjavil:


Kaj so Rusi zavzeli v zadnjih mesecih? :D Podkrepi svoje trditve z kredibilnimi viri. Po tvoji logiki je itak Izrael prav tako usa proxy.


Od 1.1.2023 do danes so Rusi menda zasedli cca 200 kvadratnih kilometrov več kot Ukrajinci.

Soledar je padel v začetku Januarja, tako da to je praktično samo Bakhmut in nič kaj dosti drugega.

fikus_ ::

Torej so RU luzerji.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

Malidelničar ::

Še korak bližje WWIII? 8-)
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Bauc ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

Bauc je izjavil:


Kaj so Rusi zavzeli v zadnjih mesecih? :D Podkrepi svoje trditve z kredibilnimi viri. Po tvoji logiki je itak Izrael prav tako usa proxy.


Od 1.1.2023 do danes so Rusi menda zasedli cca 200 kvadratnih kilometrov več kot Ukrajinci.

Soledar je padel v začetku Januarja, tako da to je praktično samo Bakhmut in nič kaj dosti drugega.

Moj komentar se je nanašal na trditev, da so Rusi med Ukrajinsko ofenzivo zavzeli več ozemlja kot Ukrajinci, kar je bila laž.

Pac-Man ::

S transportnim zabojem zabijajo raketo v GRAD lanser, video:

https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...

Vidi se tudi koliko brezveznega fizičnega & logističnega dela je pri vsem skupaj. Vsaka posamična raketa je pakirana v tak zaboj in jo je treba individualno vstavit v lanser. HIMARS lepo pobere paket 6ih raket in streljaj

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Smrekar1 ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

S transportnim zabojem zabijajo raketo v GRAD lanser, video:

https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta...

Vidi se tudi koliko brezveznega fizičnega & logističnega dela je pri vsem skupaj. Vsaka posamična raketa je pakirana v tak zaboj in jo je treba individualno vstavit v lanser. HIMARS lepo pobere paket 6ih raket in streljaj



Ni fer primerjava, ker so HIMARS rakete že v zaboju! V tovarni je tudi trajalo, da so jih zapakirali.

;)

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Utk ::

Rusi so vzeli "A je to" kot dokumentarec očitno...

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fikus_ ::

Dokler potem poleti, je še vedno nevarna, četudi jo z macolo noter nabijajo.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

Kebo ::

Pac-Man ::

pripet video

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...

A fake BBC video claiming a Bellingcat investigation shows Ukraine smuggled weapons to Hamas is being pushed by Russian social media users. It's unclear if this is a Russian government disinformation campaign or a grassroots effort, but it's 100% fake
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

mtosev ::

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BorutO ::

Evo, kako se v rusiji širi propaganda ...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coffins...

“I only blame America—not Ukraine, not Russia,” Mr. Akhromov, a 32-year-old parks-and-recreation worker, said. “Biden, or however he is called, allowed for Nazism to flourish in Ukraine, and so Russia had to fight not only to protect its people and borders, but also the Ukrainian people, women, children, elderly.”

Model niti ne ve kdo je Biden ... Ni čudno, da so rusi tako oprani.

Pac-Man ::

Gazpromovci, ki dobavljajo plin Kitajski, stavkajo zaradi neizplačila plač

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/10/09/m...

After Gazprom cut off gas to most European countries, cut production to a record level in history and received a trillion rubles in net losses over the past four quarters, wage delays began at one of the company’s largest fields.

Workers at the Kovyktinskoye field, which holds the record for reserves in Eastern Siberia and supplies gas to the Power of Siberia pipeline laid to China, went on strike due to non-receipt of the promised money and working conditions, Novosibirsk Online . reports

According to one of the workers, shift workers stopped going to work on October 4. “We work for two months, and we have not been paid either a salary or an advance,” complained laborer Alexey Zimin, who came to the Irkutsk region to earn money and signed a 2-month contract with a Gazprom contractor.

According to another Novosibirsk Online source, out of about 40 workers, only three received a salary, and instead of the promised 90 thousand rubles per month, their cards received amounts 3-60 times less. Some worked the required two months and went home without receiving any money.

Those who remained were not given winter uniforms, despite the fact that the temperature in the taiga dropped to minus 10. Attempts to reach an agreement with the authorities led nowhere, Zimin said: “They are forced out to work almost with beatings and fights. It’s like we’re in slavery here.”


The employer of workers at the Kovyktinskoye field is the Kadano company, which in turn has a contract with StroyTransNefteGaz, part of the Gazstroyprom holding, a “subsidiary” construction structure of Gazprom, which recently came under American sanctions. It is she who is delaying money for salaries, Oleg Anokhin, the founder of Kadano, told Novosibirsk Online. The delay in salaries, according to him, was only two weeks.

Gazprom has been experiencing growing financial problems since mid-2022, when almost all key European countries were successively cut off from Russian gas, and an explosion on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines deprived the company of the ability to resume supplies in the foreseeable future .

From July 2022 to the end of June 2023, Gazprom spent two-thirds of its cash reserves in its accounts to cover cash gaps and financial losses. In the second half of last year, the company received 1.2 trillion rubles of net loss, and the profit of the first half of 2023 compensated for only a fifth of these losses.

Gazprom's production in January–June amounted to 179.45 billion cubic meters. Compared to the same period in 2022, volumes fell by 25%, and when compared with the pre-war period, by almost a third.

Never in its three decades of history has the world's largest gas company cut production so rapidly. Thus, in 2009, against the backdrop of the global financial crisis, Gazprom cut production by 16%, and after the collapse of the USSR - by only 12% (from 1992 to 1998).
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

kow ::

To zimo bo v Rusiji za marsikoga zelo mrzlo. Lahko se bodo greli z mislijo na Putina.

Zmajc ::

Gazprom se bo popolnoma sesul če bodo rusi vojno trajbali še par let.

fikus_ ::

Lani ste jamrali, da RU kar tako kurijo plin in onesnažujejo okolje, ker ga ne morejo izvažati in ga imajo preveč, to zimo pa bi jih naj zeblo.
Kaj se je spremenilo od lani?
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Pac-Man ::

brez komentarja

https://twitter.com/reshetz/status/1711...

fotka v drugem tvitu je verjetno fotošop
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

kow ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Lani ste jamrali, da RU kar tako kurijo plin in onesnažujejo okolje, ker ga ne morejo izvažati in ga imajo preveč, to zimo pa bi jih naj zeblo.
Kaj se je spremenilo od lani?


Tiskajo denar kot nori in vse vecji delez prebivalstva pada v revscino. Ne bos verjel, "specialne vojne operacije" kostajo.

fikus_ ::

Seveda boš dal kakšen kredibilen vir za svoje trditve, a ne :D
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kow ::

Ne bos verjel. Centralna banka Ruske Federacije ima spletno stran. Ti bom tokrat (spet) pomagal:

https://cbr.ru/eng/statistics/macro_itm...

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fikus_ ::

Kako pomagal, spet spuščaš meglo na svoje trditve.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

Zmajc ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Seveda boš dal kakšen kredibilen vir za svoje trditve, a ne :D


Rusi bodo naslednje leto tretjino vsega letnega budgeta namenili za "obrambo". Ti pa misliš da bo od tega prebivalstvo prosperiralo?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ev...

kow ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Kako pomagal, spet spuščaš meglo na svoje trditve.


Ti raje komentiraj rusko printanje denarja, ki ni kaj veliko nizje od koronskega. Kaksne zakljucke naj bi potegnili, razsvetli nas.

fikus_ ::

In ti boš komentiral Usa printanje denarja?

PS jaz se ne obremenjujem z RU printanjem denarja, tako da mi je vseeno koliko ga naprintajo.
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kow ::

Lahko komentiram amerisko printanje denarja, da. Trenutno je za velikostni razred manjse od ruskega.
Ne rabis se obremenjevati z ruskim printanjem denarja. Samo reveza v moskvi bo zeblo - za kurjavo bo sel vecji del dohodka.

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Kresnik ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Lani ste jamrali, da RU kar tako kurijo plin in onesnažujejo okolje, ker ga ne morejo izvažati in ga imajo preveč, to zimo pa bi jih naj zeblo.
Kaj se je spremenilo od lani?


Veš, go govorimo o plinu in tako veliki kot je Rusija, je oboje mogoče. Plina pač ne moreš spakirati v zaboj in naložit na tovornjak.

Zmajc ::

Rusi se trenutno soočajo z pomanjkanjem dizla na domačem trgu. Kako je to mogoče če so eni največjih izvoznikov nafte in naftnih derivatov? Preposto.

Z izgubo dobička iz prodaje plina so zaradi rekordno visoke cene surove večino surove nafte namenili za izvoz raje kot da jo predelujejo v derivate. Sedaj pa se čudijo da jim je v državi začelo primanjkovati dizla in so do nadaljnjega prepovedali izvoz ČISTO VSEH naftnih derivatov. Tako so v tem trenutku ostali brez prihodkov od Plina in naftnih derivatov. To traja že več kot 2 tedna.

Bravo.

fikus_ ::

Zmajc, zagotovo imaš kakšen prepričljiv vir za to?!
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Zmajc ::

Aha v petek so preklicali prepoved izvoza. Ampak ja, od 21 Septembra do 6.10. so imeli prepoved izvoza dizla in naftnih derivatov zaradi pomanjkanja na domačem trgu.


https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi...

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi....

fikus_ ::

Verjameš pa prav vsemu. RU se trudijo dvigniti ceno nafte/dizla na svetovnem trgu. Kratka panika jim je uspela, potem je cena nafte padla, sedaj zadnjih nekaj dni pa spet raste.

PS RU surova nafta je zelo primerna za izdelavo Dizla, američani tega nimajo veliko na voljo.
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Zmajc ::

Saj pravim, rad bi imel "vire". Potem pa je tvoj odgovor vedno "prav vsemu verjameš". Glavno da TI verjameš vsemu kad objavi TASS, RT in Sputnik z svojimi sateliti.

Škoda debate.

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fikus_ ::

Torej ti ne verjameš, da bi Putin rad nafto prodajal po visokih cenah?
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Zmajc ::

To sem tudi napisal. Je pa žrtev tega, da bi radi nadomestili dobičke v tem da zanemarjajo domači trg. Če večino nafte izvoziš zaradi dobička je domač trg pač žrtev tega.

fikus_ ::

Kaže da so tebi predsodki zameglili logiko.
Manjši izvoz, več nafte doma na voljo, kontra večji izvoz, manj nafte doma na voljo.

Vsaj pri tem se strinjava, da bi Putin raje prodajal nafto po še višjih cenah.
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Malidelničar ::

Kaj je zdaj z ruskim poizkusom obkolitve Avdiivke v teh dnevih in njihovim pincer movementom?????
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SasoS ::

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