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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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Rambutan ::
Se mi zdi, da Gerasimov vadi trolanje
Večni optimist pa je Melnyk, on bi imel podmornice, križarke in letala
https://twitter.com/MelnykAndrij/status...
Ukraine finally needs a decision of German government to send 🇩🇪fighter jets, war ships & submarines. Berlin also has to ramp up deliveries of Leopard2 tanks (only 18 out of 328 or 6%🤷♂️), Fuchs (0 from 600🤷♂️) & Wiesel (0 from 300🤷♂️) for 🇺🇦 offensive. Now!👇🏻https://rnd.de/politik/krieg-in-der-ukr...

Večni optimist pa je Melnyk, on bi imel podmornice, križarke in letala

https://twitter.com/MelnykAndrij/status...
Ukraine finally needs a decision of German government to send 🇩🇪fighter jets, war ships & submarines. Berlin also has to ramp up deliveries of Leopard2 tanks (only 18 out of 328 or 6%🤷♂️), Fuchs (0 from 600🤷♂️) & Wiesel (0 from 300🤷♂️) for 🇺🇦 offensive. Now!👇🏻https://rnd.de/politik/krieg-in-der-ukr...

Zmajc ::
Ko se greš pogajat vedno prosiš za več kot je realno dosegljivo, da si potem v okviru realnega izpogajaš čim več. Ni tu nič presenetljivega ali novega.

bbbbbb2015 ::
Ukrajinci so udarili v en rahel protinapad na južnem krilu Bakmuta, da zavarujejo eno od cest, ki pelje do Bakmuta. Wagnerjevcev ni več okrog Bakmuta, Prigožin s šraufcigrom po zemljevidu razlaga Bakmut levo, Bakmut desno. Ima neka očala na nosu, ko stara baba modruje. Gledal sem, če ma kako ornk stekleno kuglo, pa ne. Morda šopa iz usedline v skodelici kave. Rusi deployajo redno vojsko okrog Bakmuta. Nekaj SPECNAZ, nekaj nabornike.
Frontna linija se je ustalila sredi mesta. Ukrajinci snajpajo na Ruse iz visokih pozicij. Še predvčeraj so Ukrajinci en malček nažokali HIMARSE na obroč okrog Bakmuta, z droni so jim tudi uničili proti artilerijske radarje. Kontaktno linijo so Ukrajinci na *DEBELO* minirali, vse visoke stavbe pa porušili.
Zdi se, da je zalet orkov popustil, vsi zdaj čakajo na potezo Ukrajincev.
Frontna linija se je ustalila sredi mesta. Ukrajinci snajpajo na Ruse iz visokih pozicij. Še predvčeraj so Ukrajinci en malček nažokali HIMARSE na obroč okrog Bakmuta, z droni so jim tudi uničili proti artilerijske radarje. Kontaktno linijo so Ukrajinci na *DEBELO* minirali, vse visoke stavbe pa porušili.
Zdi se, da je zalet orkov popustil, vsi zdaj čakajo na potezo Ukrajincev.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Malidelničar ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Ukrajinci so udarili v en rahel protinapad na južnem krilu Bakmuta, da zavarujejo eno od cest, ki pelje do Bakmuta. Wagnerjevcev ni več okrog Bakmuta, Prigožin s šraufcigrom po zemljevidu razlaga Bakmut levo, Bakmut desno. Ima neka očala na nosu, ko stara baba modruje. Gledal sem, če ma kako ornk stekleno kuglo, pa ne. Morda šopa iz usedline v skodelici kave. Rusi deployajo redno vojsko okrog Bakmuta. Nekaj SPECNAZ, nekaj nabornike.
Frontna linija se je ustalila sredi mesta. Ukrajinci snajpajo na Ruse iz visokih pozicij. Še predvčeraj so Ukrajinci en malček nažokali HIMARSE na obroč okrog Bakmuta, z droni so jim tudi uničili proti artilerijske radarje. Kontaktno linijo so Ukrajinci na *DEBELO* minirali, vse visoke stavbe pa porušili.
Zdi se, da je zalet orkov popustil, vsi zdaj čakajo na potezo Ukrajincev.
Wagnerjevci so kar zelo zdesetkani. Koliko so jih imeli tam, skoraj 40.000? Rusi sedaj v Bakhmutu že uporabljajo VDV, Spectnaz in ostale redne enote. Ostanki Wagnerjevcev so skoncentrirani v centru na jurišnih napadih, na obrobjih Bakhmutske fronte so pa VDV-jevci. Ukrajinci so zavarovali južno cesto, ki je bila bolj ogrožena od severne. Sicer imajo baje še tunele. Rusi nekako so prišli do centra mesta, nova frontna linija je ob železnici. To so zdaj zadnje info. Ukrajinci minirajo vse in rušijo stavbe, imajo v mestu celo nekaj (starejših) tankov, ki so jih pripeljali v prejšnjih 3 tednih po južni cesti (zato je bilo njeno odprtje ključno in velik ruski neuspeh, da je niso presekali) s katerim porušijo stavbo, ko se locira lokacija ruske skupine.
Pri Avdivki se je rusko zapiranje kotla ustavilo. Čeprav so imeli boljše možnosti, kot pri Bakhmutu, ker so imeli močan južni krak, ampak sedaj ne morejo zapreti.
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Pac-Man ::
Po internetih se kotali posnetek kako Rusi v ISIS stilu opravijo z vojnim ujetnikom. Tale je zabluran:
https://twitter.com/igorlachenkov/statu...
Russians filmed a terrible video of brutal beheading of a captured Ukrainian soldier. This is yet another monstrous crime of russian army and a violation of all conventions and moral principles of humanity.
You have to realize that such thing should never happen in 21st century, this is pure terrorism, a literal torture to death, an execution of a helpless human, that screams in agonizing pain for help and begs not to kill him. Everyone should understand this and take measures.
Okolica je zelena, torej staro.
Pri Rusiču se hvalijo, da bomo presenečeni koliko takih posnetkov se bo še našlo:
https://twitter.com/MuKappa/status/1645...
DShRG Rusich: "You'd be surprised how many such videos will be emerging soon."
This is not the first time this happens. This has been happening since 2014 in this war. Before that in Chechnya.
Odzval se je tudi Zelenski, iz pisarne, video. O čem je še včeraj pisal Rambutan?
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/sta...
"This is a video of Russia as it is, a video the world must see. It's no accident, 🇷🇺 tries to make this new norm. Every leader must react. Terror must be defeated, main goal is strength to Ukraine to win. Glory to all who fight agnst this evil"
Zelenskyy on video of killed POW
Par dni nazaj je ruska pravoslavna cerkev pokazala svoj pravi obraz, video:
https://twitter.com/rshereme/status/164...
A russian priest on the state TV channel is calling to "burn Ukrainians like pagans.” He continues to say that Ukrainians “need to be liquidated without having second thoughts!" This is the kind of “Christianity” that russia wants to impose on Ukraine and the rest of the world.
Kanal ni ravno državen, se pa v multipleksu oddaja po vsem teritoriju Rusije.
Spas (TV channel) @ Wikipedia
In še srednje dolg poziv k neogledu originalnega posnetka:
https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/16...
Don't share or watch it, please leave that to professionals & war crimes investigators. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose from staring into that abyss. Speaking as someone who was once employed to research footage like this, you will live with those images for life.
Unless you are being paid to do it, and I'd argue that no amount of money is worth that sacrifice, just don't do it. If I have learned anything I can share in over 13 years of covering war crimes as a journalist, it's that some footage should simply never be viewed by the public.
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https://twitter.com/igorlachenkov/statu...
Russians filmed a terrible video of brutal beheading of a captured Ukrainian soldier. This is yet another monstrous crime of russian army and a violation of all conventions and moral principles of humanity.
You have to realize that such thing should never happen in 21st century, this is pure terrorism, a literal torture to death, an execution of a helpless human, that screams in agonizing pain for help and begs not to kill him. Everyone should understand this and take measures.
Okolica je zelena, torej staro.
Pri Rusiču se hvalijo, da bomo presenečeni koliko takih posnetkov se bo še našlo:
https://twitter.com/MuKappa/status/1645...
DShRG Rusich: "You'd be surprised how many such videos will be emerging soon."
This is not the first time this happens. This has been happening since 2014 in this war. Before that in Chechnya.
Odzval se je tudi Zelenski, iz pisarne, video. O čem je še včeraj pisal Rambutan?
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/sta...
"This is a video of Russia as it is, a video the world must see. It's no accident, 🇷🇺 tries to make this new norm. Every leader must react. Terror must be defeated, main goal is strength to Ukraine to win. Glory to all who fight agnst this evil"
Zelenskyy on video of killed POW
Par dni nazaj je ruska pravoslavna cerkev pokazala svoj pravi obraz, video:
https://twitter.com/rshereme/status/164...
A russian priest on the state TV channel is calling to "burn Ukrainians like pagans.” He continues to say that Ukrainians “need to be liquidated without having second thoughts!" This is the kind of “Christianity” that russia wants to impose on Ukraine and the rest of the world.
Kanal ni ravno državen, se pa v multipleksu oddaja po vsem teritoriju Rusije.
Spas (TV channel) @ Wikipedia
In še srednje dolg poziv k neogledu originalnega posnetka:
https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/16...
Don't share or watch it, please leave that to professionals & war crimes investigators. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose from staring into that abyss. Speaking as someone who was once employed to research footage like this, you will live with those images for life.
Unless you are being paid to do it, and I'd argue that no amount of money is worth that sacrifice, just don't do it. If I have learned anything I can share in over 13 years of covering war crimes as a journalist, it's that some footage should simply never be viewed by the public.
...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Rambutan ::
Ja, v Bakhmutu je boke prevzela ruska vojska, mislim da sem že prejšnji teden to omenil. Sicer je Wagner danes osvobodil želežniško postajo in še naprej počasi, venda zanesljivo napreduje. Ukiji so v Bakhmutu v slabem položaju. Tako zgleda ruska premoč v artileriji.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u0HFKgpL...
Medtem je pa ukrajinski premier danes povedal, da bodo ofenzivo mogoče izpeljali komaj poleti. So podatki iz leaka, da Ukiji še niso pripravljeni točni ali je to maskirovka?
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa...
Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal’s arrival in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday comes ahead of a make-or-break moment in Ukraine’s defensive fight against Russia, as Kyiv prepares to launch a counteroffensive that will determine the future course of the war.
Shmyhal, in an exclusive interview with The Hill, said that the counteroffensive could be launched as late as the summer, noting that the most intense pressure to start the counteroffensive comes from inside Ukraine.
“We do not feel the pressure from our friends and partners vis-a-vis the start of the offensive,” he said.
“All of our friends and partners do comprehend clearly that in order to go into counteroffensive, one must be 100 percent, and even more percent prepared to do so.”
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u0HFKgpL...
Medtem je pa ukrajinski premier danes povedal, da bodo ofenzivo mogoče izpeljali komaj poleti. So podatki iz leaka, da Ukiji še niso pripravljeni točni ali je to maskirovka?
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa...
Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal’s arrival in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday comes ahead of a make-or-break moment in Ukraine’s defensive fight against Russia, as Kyiv prepares to launch a counteroffensive that will determine the future course of the war.
Shmyhal, in an exclusive interview with The Hill, said that the counteroffensive could be launched as late as the summer, noting that the most intense pressure to start the counteroffensive comes from inside Ukraine.
“We do not feel the pressure from our friends and partners vis-a-vis the start of the offensive,” he said.
“All of our friends and partners do comprehend clearly that in order to go into counteroffensive, one must be 100 percent, and even more percent prepared to do so.”

Rambutan ::
Po internetih se kotali posnetek kako Rusi v ISIS stilu opravijo z vojnim ujetnikom. Tale je zabluran:
https://twitter.com/igorlachenkov/statu...
Russians filmed a terrible video of brutal beheading of a captured Ukrainian soldier. This is yet another monstrous crime of russian army and a violation of all conventions and moral principles of humanity.
You have to realize that such thing should never happen in 21st century, this is pure terrorism, a literal torture to death, an execution of a helpless human, that screams in agonizing pain for help and begs not to kill him. Everyone should understand this and take measures.
Okolica je zelena, torej staro.
Pri Rusiču se hvalijo, da bomo presenečeni koliko takih posnetkov se bo še našlo:
https://twitter.com/MuKappa/status/1645...
DShRG Rusich: "You'd be surprised how many such videos will be emerging soon."
This is not the first time this happens. This has been happening since 2014 in this war. Before that in Chechnya.
Odzval se je tudi Zelenski, iz pisarne, video. O čem je še včeraj pisal Rambutan?
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/sta...
"This is a video of Russia as it is, a video the world must see. It's no accident, 🇷🇺 tries to make this new norm. Every leader must react. Terror must be defeated, main goal is strength to Ukraine to win. Glory to all who fight agnst this evil"
Zelenskyy on video of killed POW
Saj si sam povedal, video je star, bolj se je za vprašat, zakaj so ga zdaj lansirali? Verjetno bomo še deležni kake podobne propagandne akcije, medtem ko se čaka na ukrajinsko ofenzivo, Rusi pa počasi napredujejo. To spet potrjuje mojo tezo, da Ukrajinci vodijo medijsko vojno, Rusi pa se fokusirajo na bojišče. Bi rekel, da bo treba kaj sproducirat tudi takrat, ko bo padel Bakhmut, da se preusmeri pozornost.
Moralo je treba vzdrževati s propagando, če na bojišču ni kaj za pokazati. Vprašanje je, koliko časa bo to delovalo...

Lonsarg ::
Point dobre propagande je, da spina dejansko resnico v smer da cim bolje izpade, vcasih z kakim manjsim kanckom lazi, ampak zgolj manjsim. In zahod je glede tega tipa propagande najboljsi.
Bistvo je da se propaganda prilagaja dogajanju in ne dogajanje prilagaja propagadni in tega se zahod ponavadi kar drzi, zalo dvomim da je glede Bakhmut drugace.
Bistvo je da se propaganda prilagaja dogajanju in ne dogajanje prilagaja propagadni in tega se zahod ponavadi kar drzi, zalo dvomim da je glede Bakhmut drugace.
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Machete ::
2. vojska sveta že pol leta 'zavzema' neko nepomembno miniaturno selo.
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mackilla ::

bciciban_ ::

Rambutan ::
Zahod pa spina Wagnerjevo mesoreznico tako, da pravi da 2. vojska sveta ne more že pol leta zasesti strateško nepomembnega Bakhmuta.
Dejansko so oboji uspešni, Ukrajina zmaguje medijsko vojno, Rusija pa demilitarizira Ukrajino v operativno obkoljenem Bakhmutu, kjer ima veliko premoč v artileriji. Edino vprašanje je, do kdaj bodo Ukrajinci uspevali s propagando prepričevati javnost navkljub porazom na terenu. IMO bo to zmeraj težje.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Drugo vprašanje je, kaj bo s to napovedovano ofenzivo. Jest bi rekel, da je ne bomo dočakali tako kmalu, bo še zanimivo opazovati izgovore, zakaj zavlačujejo.
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa...
Shmyhal, in an exclusive interview with The Hill, said that the counteroffensive could be launched as late as the summer, noting that the most intense pressure to start the counteroffensive comes from inside Ukraine.
Dejansko so oboji uspešni, Ukrajina zmaguje medijsko vojno, Rusija pa demilitarizira Ukrajino v operativno obkoljenem Bakhmutu, kjer ima veliko premoč v artileriji. Edino vprašanje je, do kdaj bodo Ukrajinci uspevali s propagando prepričevati javnost navkljub porazom na terenu. IMO bo to zmeraj težje.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Drugo vprašanje je, kaj bo s to napovedovano ofenzivo. Jest bi rekel, da je ne bomo dočakali tako kmalu, bo še zanimivo opazovati izgovore, zakaj zavlačujejo.
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa...
Shmyhal, in an exclusive interview with The Hill, said that the counteroffensive could be launched as late as the summer, noting that the most intense pressure to start the counteroffensive comes from inside Ukraine.

sparklyslo ::
Medtem, ko Wagnerjevci in ruska sodrga posiljuje zenske in otroke, strela vojne ujetnike, zivim ujetnikom režejo glave, tepihovajo mesta,
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bciciban_ ::
Zahod pa spina Wagnerjevo mesoreznico tako, da pravi da 2. vojska sveta ne more že pol leta zasesti strateško nepomembnega Bakhmuta.
Dejansko so oboji uspešni, Ukrajina zmaguje medijsko vojno, Rusija pa demilitarizira Ukrajino v operativno obkoljenem Bakhmutu, kjer ima veliko premoč v artileriji. Edino vprašanje je, do kdaj bodo Ukrajinci uspevali s propagando prepričevati javnost navkljub porazom na terenu. IMO bo to zmeraj težje.
Spet lažeš.
Leakani dokumenti pravijo da imajo Rusi 4x večje izgube.
Torej Ukrajina zmaguje medijsko, pa še Ruse demilitarizira .
Win win ;)

gozdar1 ::
Rusi so mojstri propagande in spinanja porazov v zmage. Če so dejstva preveč nesporna sledi smetenje z whataboutizmi, teorijami zarot,..
Spomnimo kako je kijev kar naenkrat postal samo varka, podobno je sedaj bahmut samo past za ukrajince in zimske ofenzives sploh ni bilo.
Spomnimo kako je kijev kar naenkrat postal samo varka, podobno je sedaj bahmut samo past za ukrajince in zimske ofenzives sploh ni bilo.

Pac-Man ::
Saj si sam povedal, video je star, bolj se je za vprašat, zakaj so ga zdaj lansirali? Verjetno bomo še deležni kake podobne propagandne akcije, medtem ko se čaka na ukrajinsko ofenzivo, Rusi pa počasi napredujejo.
Lansirali so ga pro-ruski Telegram kanali, tako da spet ne vem o čem bluziš.
https://twitter.com/arthurpysarenko/sta...
This person was the first to publish a video of the beheading of a Ukrainian prisoner of war in his Telegram channel. The author's name is Vladyslav Pozdnyakov, the leader of the Russian movement "Men's State", which promotes racism, patriarchy and Nazism!
https://twitter.com/BcatMonitoring/stat...
According to @InsiderEng, one of the first places the video appeared was the Telegram channel of Vladislav Pozdnyakov, founder of Russian far-right misogynist hate group Male State
“Bag it and send to the commander.” A video of a Ukrainian soldier being decapitated surfaces on a Telegram channel
The footage appears to depict a man in uniform with a yellow armband, likely a Ukrainian prisoner of war, lying on the ground. A man in camouflage with no visible insignia is shown standing over him, wearing a white armband on his leg - a symbol commonly associated with the Russian military and pro-Russian fighters.
In the video, the standing man uses a knife to decapitate the prisoner, who can be heard screaming in agony.
There are several other people standing around, cheering the man with the knife: “Let's work, brothers! Cut it the fuck off! Break his spine! Haven't you ever cut off a fuckin' head before? Go all the way.” They also show a bulletproof vest with Ukrainian insignia, probably belonging to the Ukrainian soldier.
The call sign “Varyag” is heard in background radio conversations. When the head is separated from the body, the man filming the video says: “Fucking bag it and send to the commander”.
We wrote about Pozdnyakov and Male State in October 2021 and most recently in March 2022
Male State: The Russian Online Hate Group Backing Putin’s War
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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bciciban_ ::
Rusi so mojstri propagande in spinanja porazov v zmage. Če so dejstva preveč nesporna sledi smetenje z whataboutizmi, teorijami zarot,..
Spomnimo kako je kijev kar naenkrat postal samo varka, podobno je sedaj bahmut samo past za ukrajince in zimske ofenzives sploh ni bilo.
Res je ni bilo.
Tist je bil masaker Rusov


Pac-Man ::
Tole je z marca 2022, zadnja povezava zgoraj. Navdušujejo se nad bombardiranjem največjega ruskogovorečega mesta v Ukrajini. Nacionalisti pa taki.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of...
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That wasn’t the only act of civilian harm that Pozdnyakov cheered. The same evening, the Male State founder posted a video of Russian bombardment of Kharkiv showing blasts of Russian artillery fire lighting up the night sky. “The disco of the century,” Pozdnyakov wrote.
These attacks, which according to local officials killed or wounded dozens of civilians, were cheered on by Pozdnyakov. ...
“It’ll all be over in less than three days,” Pozdnyakov boasted on February 24, the day Russia invaded. Of course, that hasn’t transpired. Russia’s armed forces continue to face fierce resistance from Ukrainians, reportedly taking heavy casualties from a country they apparently expected would see them as liberators.
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“Give the nationalists of Russia a full carte blanche,” Pozdyankov stated hours after the invasion began on February 24, “and we’ll quickly put things in order.”
Pozdnyakov, however, did not have much to say to Bellingcat. The Male State founder ignored our questions about why his channel contained so much antisemitic and violent content. “We are fighting against Ukrainian Nazism. Do you support it?” Pozdnyakov replied via Telegram. He then sent a video of a pro-Russian protest he said was from Podgorica, Montenegro.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of...
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That wasn’t the only act of civilian harm that Pozdnyakov cheered. The same evening, the Male State founder posted a video of Russian bombardment of Kharkiv showing blasts of Russian artillery fire lighting up the night sky. “The disco of the century,” Pozdnyakov wrote.
These attacks, which according to local officials killed or wounded dozens of civilians, were cheered on by Pozdnyakov. ...
“It’ll all be over in less than three days,” Pozdnyakov boasted on February 24, the day Russia invaded. Of course, that hasn’t transpired. Russia’s armed forces continue to face fierce resistance from Ukrainians, reportedly taking heavy casualties from a country they apparently expected would see them as liberators.
...
“Give the nationalists of Russia a full carte blanche,” Pozdyankov stated hours after the invasion began on February 24, “and we’ll quickly put things in order.”
Pozdnyakov, however, did not have much to say to Bellingcat. The Male State founder ignored our questions about why his channel contained so much antisemitic and violent content. “We are fighting against Ukrainian Nazism. Do you support it?” Pozdnyakov replied via Telegram. He then sent a video of a pro-Russian protest he said was from Podgorica, Montenegro.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

fur80 ::
Rusi so mojstri propagande in spinanja porazov v zmage. Če so dejstva preveč nesporna sledi smetenje z whataboutizmi, teorijami zarot,..
Spomnimo kako je kijev kar naenkrat postal samo varka, podobno je sedaj bahmut samo past za ukrajince in zimske ofenzives sploh ni bilo.
Res je ni bilo.
Tist je bil masaker Rusov![]()
Nekako tako je bilo:
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...
Če vemo, da je potem sledil Vuhledar in katastrofalen poraz v tankovski bitki je imel Lavrov prav!
Lavrov napovedal, da bodo zasenčili dogodke Zahoda
V povezavi s tem se je oglasil ruski zunanji minister Sergej Lavrov, ki je pomenljivo dejal: "Zagotovili bomo, da dogodki, ki jih bo na prvo obletnico posebne operacije v Ukrajini organiziral Zahod, ne bodo edini, ki bodo pritegnili pozornost sveta." Dodal je, da bo Rusija "s trenutnega položaja izšla močnejša".

Maxlos ::
Zgleda nimajo za ofenzivo...
South Korea has reached an agreement to lend the United States 500,000 rounds of 155mm artillery shells that could give Washington greater flexibility to supply Ukraine with ammunition, a South Korean newspaper reported on Wednesday.
South Korea has reached an agreement to lend the United States 500,000 rounds of 155mm artillery shells that could give Washington greater flexibility to supply Ukraine with ammunition, a South Korean newspaper reported on Wednesday.
Barking up the wrong tree

fur80 ::
Da malo Rambutana spomnimo na kateri strani smo! ;)
Collective defence Collective defence
CZ, GER, SK, SLO, USA troops from #NATO's multinational battlegroup in Slovakia participate in an exercise aimed at defending the country from potential attack.
https://twitter.com/NATO/status/1646105...
Collective defence Collective defence
CZ, GER, SK, SLO, USA troops from #NATO's multinational battlegroup in Slovakia participate in an exercise aimed at defending the country from potential attack.
https://twitter.com/NATO/status/1646105...

bciciban_ ::
Zgleda nimajo za ofenzivo...
South Korea has reached an agreement to lend the United States 500,000 rounds of 155mm artillery shells that could give Washington greater flexibility to supply Ukraine with ammunition, a South Korean newspaper reported on Wednesday.
A Rusi to ?
Ja res jim slabo kaže, že mesece niso nič napredovali.
Še civilistov niso raketirali že 5 tednov.
Kot da jim zmanjkuje vsega. Pa te dni je Putin jamral da jim manjka 1,3 miljona delovne sile.
Revščina, patetika.
Še za raketni terorizem zganjat nima več ta ruska banda. Kaj šele za doseganje vojaških ciljev.
Potem pa je vse kar jim ostane sekanje glav ISIS style :)
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fur80 ::
Po internetih se kotali posnetek kako Rusi v ISIS stilu opravijo z vojnim ujetnikom. Tale je zabluran:
https://twitter.com/igorlachenkov/statu...
Russians filmed a terrible video of brutal beheading of a captured Ukrainian soldier. This is yet another monstrous crime of russian army and a violation of all conventions and moral principles of humanity.
You have to realize that such thing should never happen in 21st century, this is pure terrorism, a literal torture to death, an execution of a helpless human, that screams in agonizing pain for help and begs not to kill him. Everyone should understand this and take measures.
Okolica je zelena, torej staro.
Pri Rusiču se hvalijo, da bomo presenečeni koliko takih posnetkov se bo še našlo:
https://twitter.com/MuKappa/status/1645...
DShRG Rusich: "You'd be surprised how many such videos will be emerging soon."
This is not the first time this happens. This has been happening since 2014 in this war. Before that in Chechnya.
Odzval se je tudi Zelenski, iz pisarne, video. O čem je še včeraj pisal Rambutan?
https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/sta...
"This is a video of Russia as it is, a video the world must see. It's no accident, 🇷🇺 tries to make this new norm. Every leader must react. Terror must be defeated, main goal is strength to Ukraine to win. Glory to all who fight agnst this evil"
Zelenskyy on video of killed POW
Saj si sam povedal, video je star, bolj se je za vprašat, zakaj so ga zdaj lansirali? Verjetno bomo še deležni kake podobne propagandne akcije, medtem ko se čaka na ukrajinsko ofenzivo, Rusi pa počasi napredujejo. To spet potrjuje mojo tezo, da Ukrajinci vodijo medijsko vojno, Rusi pa se fokusirajo na bojišče. Bi rekel, da bo treba kaj sproducirat tudi takrat, ko bo padel Bakhmut, da se preusmeri pozornost.
Moralo je treba vzdrževati s propagando, če na bojišču ni kaj za pokazati. Vprašanje je, koliko časa bo to delovalo...
Med prvimi videi, ki sem si jih potegnil dol še z KAZZA, takrat ko smo imeli še one piskajoče modeme, pred 20 in več leti je bil, seveda nevedoč kaj me čaka, kako ruski vojak odreže glavo enemu Afganistancu. Bi prej rekel, da jih je ISIS posnemal kot obratno! Še od takrat se seveda ognem gledanju takih posnetkov!

bciciban_ ::
Jest špekuliram da bodo Rusi spomladi popolnoma uničili ukrajinsko električno omrežje. Če bi ga uničili sedaj pozimi, bi bilo ogromno žrtev med civilisti. Če bodo Ukrajinci spomladi in poleti nekaj mesecev brez elektrike in brez propagande, se jim bom mogoče posvetilo kako jih je zahod zlorabil kot proxy proti Rusiji. Time will tell...
Torej, kdaj bodo sedaj uničili to omrežje ?
Kolikor je videt po novicah še za rakete nimajo več. Kdaj so napraskali skupaj tolk rake, da je vsaj zgledalo kot nek spodoben napad?
Toliko o neskočni količini ruskega orožja.
Mislim, da bodo v roku enega tedna izvedli povračilni napad z raketami kot odgovor na atentat na Tatarskega.
Ne bi me niti presenetilo, če označijo Ukrajino za teroristično državo in začnejo ciljati tudi ukrajinske državna poslopja, npr. obrambna ministrstva,...
Glede uničenja el. omrežja, to je moja špekulacija, zaenkrat se ni uresničila...
Tvojim špekulacijam kaže sila slabo


Zmajc ::
Tak je to ko verjameš samo propagandnim in "alternartivnim" virom. Še ni ugotovil da je laganje in napihovanje lastnih dosežkov v ruski družbi nacionalni šport. V ruski vojski pa so v tem tako prvaki.

Rambutan ::
Jest špekuliram da bodo Rusi spomladi popolnoma uničili ukrajinsko električno omrežje. Če bi ga uničili sedaj pozimi, bi bilo ogromno žrtev med civilisti. Če bodo Ukrajinci spomladi in poleti nekaj mesecev brez elektrike in brez propagande, se jim bom mogoče posvetilo kako jih je zahod zlorabil kot proxy proti Rusiji. Time will tell...
Torej, kdaj bodo sedaj uničili to omrežje ?
Kolikor je videt po novicah še za rakete nimajo več. Kdaj so napraskali skupaj tolk rake, da je vsaj zgledalo kot nek spodoben napad?
Toliko o neskočni količini ruskega orožja.
Mislim, da bodo v roku enega tedna izvedli povračilni napad z raketami kot odgovor na atentat na Tatarskega.
Ne bi me niti presenetilo, če označijo Ukrajino za teroristično državo in začnejo ciljati tudi ukrajinske državna poslopja, npr. obrambna ministrstva,...
Glede uničenja el. omrežja, to je moja špekulacija, zaenkrat se ni uresničila...
Tvojim špekulacijam kaže sila slabo![]()
Ja, tako je to s špekulacijami. Zdaj imam novo teorijo, z raketnimi napadi so hoteli izčrpati zaloge ukrajinske protizračne obrambe. To potrjuje tudi to, da so začeli uporabljati letala za bombardiranje. Zaenkrat trenirajo na manjših mostovih.
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/04/11...
Voenkor Evgeny Poddubny reports that today the Russian Aerospace Forces launched a second strike on the bridge across the Sudost River in the Chernihiv region. After yesterday’s attack by a Kh-29TD missile launched from a Su-34 aircraft, the bridge became unsuitable for moving equipment , but infantry could pass along the surviving half of the span.
Judging by the new footage that appeared today, the crossing was finished off with a second strike. This bridge was used by the enemy for the recent raid of the DRG in the Bryansk region. The second strike on this object shows the new approach of the Russian command to the destruction of enemy infrastructure.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202...
Ukraine’s air defences risk running out of missiles and ammunition within weeks, an apparent leak of Pentagon documents dating from February suggests, as US defence officials raced to trace how the files became public.
One of the documents, dated 23 February and marked “Secret”, outlines in detail how Ukraine’s Soviet-era S-300 air defence systems would be depleted by 2 May at the current usage rate. It is unclear if the usage rate has since changed.
Ukraine’s Buk air defence systems, which it relies on along with the S-300 to protest vital sites from Russian air power, could run into trouble by mid-April, the New York Times reported, and air defences protecting troops on the front line could be “completely reduced” by 23 May.

Rambutan ::
V WP je spet nov članek o slabih obetih za pomladansko ofenzivo. Spet se omenja pomanjkanje streliva, oklepnikov, negotovost glede uspeha ofenzive. V primeru neuspeh pa se bojijo da bodo prisiljeni v pogajanja iz slabih izhodišč.
Zdaj pa resno vprašanje, vi še zmeraj verjamete, da poskušajo Ukiji preko člankov v zahodnih medijih preslepiti Ruse? Ob vseh teh slabih napovedih in brez nobenih uspehov Ukrajine od Kharkovske ofenzive ste še zmeraj trdno prepričani v ukrajinsko zmago?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20...
The expected spring offensive has been framed as Ukraine's make-or-break opportunity this year to recapture territory held by Russian forces, which totals about one-fifth of the country. But the operation has been delayed by weather, slow equipment deliveries and ammunition scarcities, fueling fears of a stalemate.
Further complicating the planned counterattack is the leak of dozens of U.S. military and intelligence documents, including many details about the condition of Ukraine's military and its capabilities, including weaknesses in air defenses, that could force commanders to alter plans.
Facing critical ammunition shortage, Ukrainian troops ration shells
If Kyiv is unable to retake significant territory and the country's Western backers flag, many Ukrainians worry they will be forced into negotiations with Russia from an unfavorable position.
Zdaj pa resno vprašanje, vi še zmeraj verjamete, da poskušajo Ukiji preko člankov v zahodnih medijih preslepiti Ruse? Ob vseh teh slabih napovedih in brez nobenih uspehov Ukrajine od Kharkovske ofenzive ste še zmeraj trdno prepričani v ukrajinsko zmago?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20...
The expected spring offensive has been framed as Ukraine's make-or-break opportunity this year to recapture territory held by Russian forces, which totals about one-fifth of the country. But the operation has been delayed by weather, slow equipment deliveries and ammunition scarcities, fueling fears of a stalemate.
Further complicating the planned counterattack is the leak of dozens of U.S. military and intelligence documents, including many details about the condition of Ukraine's military and its capabilities, including weaknesses in air defenses, that could force commanders to alter plans.
Facing critical ammunition shortage, Ukrainian troops ration shells
If Kyiv is unable to retake significant territory and the country's Western backers flag, many Ukrainians worry they will be forced into negotiations with Russia from an unfavorable position.

Lesoto ::
V WP je spet nov članek o slabih obetih za pomladansko ofenzivo.
Tle nehamo brat.
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https://twitter.com/united24media/statu...
CNN has found another video of a beheading of a Ukrainian soldier by Russians. The weather in the video indicates that it was filmed recently. CNN is reporting that this was done by PMC Wagner. How many more videos will the world have to see to stop this?
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Zmajc ::
Počasi bom začel verjeti da se je ISIS učil svinjarij od Rusov. Iste stvari so Rusi delali že v Afganistanu in Čečeniji.

Chalky ::
A very spicy quote from a Polish presidential foreign policy advisor. "We believe that more America is needed in Europe. Today the United States is more of a guarantee of safety in Europe than France."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ma...
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ma...

Pac-Man ::
Tale video je tam od @5:40 do konca top.
Saving Russians in Eastern Ukraine | Buildup for Ukraine's Operation (English subtitles)
prevedeni komentarji:
Anastasia Markina
6 days ago
Greetings from Konstantinovka 🇺🇦 Donetsk region. We are not far from Bakhmut, about 20 km, 30 minutes by car. For us, Bakhmut became a fortress, he took the blow that our city was waiting for. Our APU ❤our heroes!!! We are infinitely grateful to each of our military, for being still alive! They saved us in 1914, and they are still saving us from the “Russian world”. He comes to our city every day. Every day people die, houses are destroyed. The Russian "liberators" do not need to spend expensive missiles on us, because they can randomly bombard us with hurricanes and tornadoes. Because they get it. A friend of mine recently died this way. It hurts a lot when your city is destroyed and for what? Because we are Ukrainians? Yes, I have Russian roots, so what!? I never considered myself Russian. Three generations grew up in Donbass, we are Ukrainians! In all the photos, my grandmothers are in embroidered shirts and with wreaths on their heads. Without bast shoes and kokoshnikov! My relatives in Donetsk! Waiting for the APU! May the Universe help them liberate our cities from invaders! We want peace and victory for Ukraine! I love all Ukrainians! You are the best! ❤️
Ilya Beresten
6 days ago (edited)
I am from Avdiivka. I watched the video and thought how to write a comment so that it is not empty. But I never found the words. They just don't exist to describe the pain I feel. You remember how you walked along these streets, how you went to school, and then you look at Avdiivka now and there is only pain in your soul. Only memories remain. How much money was spent on the new school. How much effort. The children studied there for only half a year. And that's it. War. Now there is not a single whole kindergarten or school in the city. Released. From what? From the Nazis? These Nazis built, tried to improve our city, but the right ones came, not the Nazis, and the city began to destroy and kill people. Aircraft bombs are thrown directly at residential buildings. The question is - why??? Why did you even have to come? Every resident of Avdiyevo will say that they had a good life. And there was no need to free us from anyone. We were not oppressed in language or in something else. People feel sorry for the most. People are not to blame for anything. Simple people. Here you were sitting with him yesterday, talking, dreaming that the war would end and everything would be as before, and in the morning you find out that he died at night. Flew into the house and no one survived.
False Dmitry 3)
6 days ago (edited)
I am a native of Gorlovka! He lived from the age of 15 until the summer of 22 in the Bakhmuut region on the first line of defense in a small village !! The development of the village was!! Roads without holes new windows in the school and the village council !! Warming of houses and repair according to the program! Solar panels as lighting in the village!! water, light, gas, everything was!!! 2 city-forming enterprises!!! Which are destroyed !!! And a bunch of small ones !!! Summer Storm freed people from the life of property! They took it and do nothing except for humanitarian aid with the letter Z ((((there has been no electricity, gas, water since the summer!!! The district villages were completely demolished from the face of the earth ((liberators be damned !!!!!!!!!!!
OksanaMn
6 days ago (edited)
I live in a village near the city of Dnipro. Children study at the lyceum of our village. The school has been renovated, the dining room and the assembly hall have recently been renovated. And even in this terrible year, they built a new classroom for safety lessons, where children will be taught to give first aid, etc. There is a new football field in the school yard and not under lock and key, local children constantly play football there. The village also has a library where various master classes are held with children absolutely free of charge. Likewise for adults. Adults come there to draw and have group sessions with a psychologist. In the village there are different circles for children and various holidays were constantly held before the war. We love our village and our country and will always fight for them. We do not need the Russian world, since this is the bottom.
Artem Severin
6 days ago (edited)
I can confirm about the big construction program. They made roads, even inside courtyards. In many places, street lighting was installed, where it never existed. Schools and kindergartens were repaired. Hospitals and clinics were renovated. In Dnipro, according to this program, we were supposed to turn the ice palace, which has been dismantled since 2013, into a modern, multifunctional arena. Did not have time. Someone (sarcasm) decided to show the whole world that he is macho. Just got it wrong, he's a dick
Naj bo dovolj.
Saving Russians in Eastern Ukraine | Buildup for Ukraine's Operation (English subtitles)
prevedeni komentarji:
Anastasia Markina
6 days ago
Greetings from Konstantinovka 🇺🇦 Donetsk region. We are not far from Bakhmut, about 20 km, 30 minutes by car. For us, Bakhmut became a fortress, he took the blow that our city was waiting for. Our APU ❤our heroes!!! We are infinitely grateful to each of our military, for being still alive! They saved us in 1914, and they are still saving us from the “Russian world”. He comes to our city every day. Every day people die, houses are destroyed. The Russian "liberators" do not need to spend expensive missiles on us, because they can randomly bombard us with hurricanes and tornadoes. Because they get it. A friend of mine recently died this way. It hurts a lot when your city is destroyed and for what? Because we are Ukrainians? Yes, I have Russian roots, so what!? I never considered myself Russian. Three generations grew up in Donbass, we are Ukrainians! In all the photos, my grandmothers are in embroidered shirts and with wreaths on their heads. Without bast shoes and kokoshnikov! My relatives in Donetsk! Waiting for the APU! May the Universe help them liberate our cities from invaders! We want peace and victory for Ukraine! I love all Ukrainians! You are the best! ❤️
Ilya Beresten
6 days ago (edited)
I am from Avdiivka. I watched the video and thought how to write a comment so that it is not empty. But I never found the words. They just don't exist to describe the pain I feel. You remember how you walked along these streets, how you went to school, and then you look at Avdiivka now and there is only pain in your soul. Only memories remain. How much money was spent on the new school. How much effort. The children studied there for only half a year. And that's it. War. Now there is not a single whole kindergarten or school in the city. Released. From what? From the Nazis? These Nazis built, tried to improve our city, but the right ones came, not the Nazis, and the city began to destroy and kill people. Aircraft bombs are thrown directly at residential buildings. The question is - why??? Why did you even have to come? Every resident of Avdiyevo will say that they had a good life. And there was no need to free us from anyone. We were not oppressed in language or in something else. People feel sorry for the most. People are not to blame for anything. Simple people. Here you were sitting with him yesterday, talking, dreaming that the war would end and everything would be as before, and in the morning you find out that he died at night. Flew into the house and no one survived.
False Dmitry 3)
6 days ago (edited)
I am a native of Gorlovka! He lived from the age of 15 until the summer of 22 in the Bakhmuut region on the first line of defense in a small village !! The development of the village was!! Roads without holes new windows in the school and the village council !! Warming of houses and repair according to the program! Solar panels as lighting in the village!! water, light, gas, everything was!!! 2 city-forming enterprises!!! Which are destroyed !!! And a bunch of small ones !!! Summer Storm freed people from the life of property! They took it and do nothing except for humanitarian aid with the letter Z ((((there has been no electricity, gas, water since the summer!!! The district villages were completely demolished from the face of the earth ((liberators be damned !!!!!!!!!!!
OksanaMn
6 days ago (edited)
I live in a village near the city of Dnipro. Children study at the lyceum of our village. The school has been renovated, the dining room and the assembly hall have recently been renovated. And even in this terrible year, they built a new classroom for safety lessons, where children will be taught to give first aid, etc. There is a new football field in the school yard and not under lock and key, local children constantly play football there. The village also has a library where various master classes are held with children absolutely free of charge. Likewise for adults. Adults come there to draw and have group sessions with a psychologist. In the village there are different circles for children and various holidays were constantly held before the war. We love our village and our country and will always fight for them. We do not need the Russian world, since this is the bottom.
Artem Severin
6 days ago (edited)
I can confirm about the big construction program. They made roads, even inside courtyards. In many places, street lighting was installed, where it never existed. Schools and kindergartens were repaired. Hospitals and clinics were renovated. In Dnipro, according to this program, we were supposed to turn the ice palace, which has been dismantled since 2013, into a modern, multifunctional arena. Did not have time. Someone (sarcasm) decided to show the whole world that he is macho. Just got it wrong, he's a dick
Naj bo dovolj.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Lonsarg ::
Zdaj pa resno vprašanje, vi še zmeraj verjamete, da poskušajo Ukiji preko člankov v zahodnih medijih preslepiti Ruse? Ob vseh teh slabih napovedih in brez nobenih uspehov Ukrajine od Kharkovske ofenzive ste še zmeraj trdno prepričani v ukrajinsko zmago?Jaz in tudi marsikdo drug že vsaj 6 mesecev govorimo da se bo sem pa tja še kaj zavzelo, v splošnem pa da smo že blizu pat položaja vojaško gledano. Zavzetje Khersona in dele Harkov regije spada pod tisti "sem pa tja". Posledica tega da pač zahod hoče čimceneje povzročit zagato Rusiji in ni pripravljen na bolj konkretno pomoč, ki bi omogočala Ukrajini še kaj več.
Ukrajinci pa so že s tem da so preprečili padec Kijeva ter nato tudi zbili zasedenost teritorija iz 25% na 15% čisti zmagovalci, vojaško gledano glede na izhodno pozicijo. Obramba Kijeva je bila tudi tisti triger da je zahod sploh začel več orožja pošiljat. Brez te obrambe bi bilo stanje popolnoma drugačno.
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asdf_jklc ::
Jaz in tudi marsikdo drug že vsaj 6 mesecev govorimo da se bo sem pa tja še kaj zavzelo, v splošnem pa da smo že blizu pat položaja vojaško gledano. Zavzetje Khersona in dele Harkov regije spada pod tisti "sem pa tja". Posledica tega da pač zahod hoče čimceneje povzročit zagato Rusiji in ni pripravljen na bolj konkretno pomoč, ki bi omogočala Ukrajini še kaj več.
Pat položaj je zato, ker večina razvitega sveta fura orožje v Ukrajino. Četudi bo Ukrajina zdržala do naslednjih ameriških predsedniških volitev, katere lahko dobi tudi Trump (če ga ne bodo v keho vrgl), se lahko tako za Evropo kot za Ukrajino stvar spremenijo čez noč - k bodo američani pipco zaprl. Evropa pa tak sama za papir od bureka nima. Vse kar ima Evropa ima očitno so trda kolena, da ga fafa ameriki. In tega se je npr. francoski makaron že zavedu. Prej bo mir, bolše bo. Volitve v nasledjih letih po državah EU pa bodo pokazale, kaj državljani hočejo - vojno ali mir. Osebno bom v tej greznici naslednjič volu stranko, ki bo zagovarjala umik iz Ukrajinskega konflikta in nevtralnost in vzspostavitev resnejšega gospodarskega sodelovanja tako z zahodom kot tudi BRICS. Ampak ja, mi ga bomo raje fafali Bruslju in mislili, da živimo v 'demokraciji".
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fur80 ::
Sem sedaj poslušal na val202, Rusom je padel prihodek od nafte v marcu iz 20 miljard lani na 11 miljard letos. Računalniki so se podražili za 250$ marca v Moskvi. Putler pa miri, da bodo cene nafte spet zrasle! :D

Lonsarg ::
Za obrambo se rabi precej precej manj kot napad. Govora je torej zgolj o zaprtju pipce potrebne za ofenzivo na Ruse, tista minimalna pipca za vzdrževanje obrambe ni pod vprašajem. Pipca za ofenzive pa je itak že sezdaj precej priprta, zadnje čase se samo še drobiž pošilja.Jaz in tudi marsikdo drug že vsaj 6 mesecev govorimo da se bo sem pa tja še kaj zavzelo, v splošnem pa da smo že blizu pat položaja vojaško gledano. Zavzetje Khersona in dele Harkov regije spada pod tisti "sem pa tja". Posledica tega da pač zahod hoče čimceneje povzročit zagato Rusiji in ni pripravljen na bolj konkretno pomoč, ki bi omogočala Ukrajini še kaj več.
Pat položaj je zato, ker večina razvitega sveta fura orožje v Ukrajino. Četudi bo Ukrajina zdržala do naslednjih ameriških predsedniških volitev, katere lahko dobi tudi Trump (če ga ne bodo v keho vrgl), se lahko tako za Evropo kot za Ukrajino stvar spremenijo čez noč - k bodo američani pipco zaprl. Evropa pa tak sama za papir od bureka nima. Vse kar ima Evropa ima očitno so trda kolena, da ga fafa ameriki. In tega se je npr. francoski makaron že zavedu. Prej bo mir, bolše bo. Volitve v nasledjih letih po državah EU pa bodo pokazale, kaj državljani hočejo - vojno ali mir. Osebno bom v tej greznici naslednjič volu stranko, ki bo zagovarjala umik iz Ukrajinskega konflikta in nevtralnost in vzspostavitev resnejšega gospodarskega sodelovanja tako z zahodom kot tudi BRICS. Ampak ja, mi ga bomo raje fafali Bruslju in mislili, da živimo v 'demokraciji".
Konec koncev ima ZDA pogodbo z Ukrajinci koliko % Ukrajinske GDP rasti dobi ZDA v zameno za orožje ki so jim ga dali, tak da ZDA rabi glavnino Ukrajine da se bo ta GDP rast zgodila, da dobijo nazaj denar. Jih pa precej boli k. če bo Ukrajina na koncu imela 85% ali 90% ozemlja gledano na 2014 pred zavzetjem krima.
Tudi Ukrajinci bodo enkrat dovolj zmatrani in jim bo ratalo vseeno ali je 85% ali 90% in bodo dobili začasno podpisano primirje, kjer bo tisti del efektivno Ruski ampak nikoli priznan. Če bo Rusija čez 50 let propadla bodo takrat Ukrajinci pač izkoristili priliko za nazaj vzet.
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asdf_jklc ::
@fur80: če ti misliš, da je Evropa demokracija, tudi prav. Čisto isto sranje kot Kitajska ali Rusija. Samo, da tam imajo rough sistem, tukaj imaš pa Matrix film varianto. Malo več pravic, rezultat je pa isti. Smo pri Covidu videli "demokracijo".

Lesoto ::

Rambutan ::
Jaz in tudi marsikdo drug že vsaj 6 mesecev govorimo da se bo sem pa tja še kaj zavzelo, v splošnem pa da smo že blizu pat položaja vojaško gledano. Zavzetje Khersona in dele Harkov regije spada pod tisti "sem pa tja". Posledica tega da pač zahod hoče čimceneje povzročit zagato Rusiji in ni pripravljen na bolj konkretno pomoč, ki bi omogočala Ukrajini še kaj več.
Pat položaj je zato, ker večina razvitega sveta fura orožje v Ukrajino. Četudi bo Ukrajina zdržala do naslednjih ameriških predsedniških volitev, katere lahko dobi tudi Trump (če ga ne bodo v keho vrgl), se lahko tako za Evropo kot za Ukrajino stvar spremenijo čez noč - k bodo američani pipco zaprl. Evropa pa tak sama za papir od bureka nima. Vse kar ima Evropa ima očitno so trda kolena, da ga fafa ameriki. In tega se je npr. francoski makaron že zavedu. Prej bo mir, bolše bo. Volitve v nasledjih letih po državah EU pa bodo pokazale, kaj državljani hočejo - vojno ali mir. Osebno bom v tej greznici naslednjič volu stranko, ki bo zagovarjala umik iz Ukrajinskega konflikta in nevtralnost in vzspostavitev resnejšega gospodarskega sodelovanja tako z zahodom kot tudi BRICS. Ampak ja, mi ga bomo raje fafali Bruslju in mislili, da živimo v 'demokraciji".
Biden si ne more privoščiti iti z nerazrešenim problemom v Ukrajini na volitve. Ukrajinci imajo še do jeseni čas, da pokažejo kaj napredka, sicer bodo ZDA in EU ustavila podporo in prisilila Ukrajino v pogajanja. Ukrajina se bo pridružila Iraku, Afganistanu, Siriji in Libiji, ZDA pa bodo obrnile pozornost proti Kitajski.
2024 bomo debatirali o tem, ali naj se EU pridruži ZDA v sankcijah/vojni proti Kitajski, na Ukrajino pa bomo pozabili, tako kot smo pozabili na covid...

shmandi ::
Ja, tako je to s špekulacijami. Zdaj imam novo teorijo, z raketnimi napadi so hoteli izčrpati zaloge ukrajinske protizračne obrambe. To potrjuje tudi to, da so začeli uporabljati letala za bombardiranje. Zaenkrat trenirajo na manjših mostovih.
Smešen si. Verjamem, da ti je mar za tvojo "rodino", čeprav se verjetno niti rodil nisi tam... Samo žal tvoji s svojimi dejanji rinejo čadelje globlje v svoj drek. Na tak način (kraje na vsakem koraku, korupcija...) pač ne gre. Izrodili so se do amena. In oni bi se šli novo svetovno ureditev in pravičen svet za vse... Ja pa ja de.
Osebno bom v tej greznici naslednjič volu stranko, ki bo zagovarjala umik iz Ukrajinskega konflikta in nevtralnost in vzspostavitev resnejšega gospodarskega sodelovanja tako z zahodom kot tudi BRICS. Ampak ja, mi ga bomo raje fafali Bruslju in mislili, da živimo v 'demokraciji".
Nevtralnost po čigavih merilih? Evropskih, Ukrajinskih ali ruskih? To so trije različni pojmi. rusija nikoli ni skrivala, da si želi zvezo (vazalstvo) belorusije in Ukrajine. belorusija je po ruskih merilih nevtralna. Toliko o tem...
Smo pri Covidu videli "demokracijo".
A si mogu masko nosit? bogi...
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: shmandi ()

Pac-Man ::
Putler pa miri, da bodo cene nafte spet zrasle! :D
Morda, samo ne za Ruse. Nobena firma se ni pripravljena pipnit nafte nad kapico, kupcem pa povsem ustreza, da kupujejo poceni in se izgovarjajo na gnili zahod.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

fur80 ::
@fur80: če ti misliš, da je Evropa demokracija, tudi prav. Čisto isto sranje kot Kitajska ali Rusija. Samo, da tam imajo rough sistem, tukaj imaš pa Matrix film varianto. Malo več pravic, rezultat je pa isti. Smo pri Covidu videli "demokracijo".
No toliko bi se pa le lahko izobrazil o sistemih in kako potekajo zadeve v določenih državah, če že misliš sodelovati pri razpravi!

Rambutan ::
Putler pa miri, da bodo cene nafte spet zrasle! :D
Morda, samo ne za Ruse. Nobena firma se ni pripravljena pipnit nafte nad kapico, kupcem pa povsem ustreza, da kupujejo poceni in se izgovarjajo na gnili zahod.
Ah, še Japonska bo kupovala nad kapico, kaj šele druge države. Ta kapica je nesmiselen in neizvedljiv ukrep.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-brea...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles...
Saudi Arabia’s imports of diesel from Russia have surged
At the same time, the kingdom is sending big amounts to Europe

fur80 ::
Putler pa miri, da bodo cene nafte spet zrasle! :D
Morda, samo ne za Ruse. Nobena firma se ni pripravljena pipnit nafte nad kapico, kupcem pa povsem ustreza, da kupujejo poceni in se izgovarjajo na gnili zahod.
Najbolj zanimivo je, da največji padci šele pridejo, rezerve pa pritiskajo na rubelj. Bomo videli, čakam pa na junake, ki so skakali, da sankcije ne delujejo in ne bodo delovale!!!
Putler pa miri, da bodo cene nafte spet zrasle! :D
Morda, samo ne za Ruse. Nobena firma se ni pripravljena pipnit nafte nad kapico, kupcem pa povsem ustreza, da kupujejo poceni in se izgovarjajo na gnili zahod.
Ah, še Japonska bo kupovala nad kapico, kaj šele druge države. Ta kapica je nesmiselen in neizvedljiv ukrep.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-brea...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles...
Saudi Arabia’s imports of diesel from Russia have surged
At the same time, the kingdom is sending big amounts to Europe
Buhahaha, daj nehaj lepo te prosim!
Povprečen Rusi v Moskvi, da v marcu 250$ več za nov računalnik. Cene so fiksirane na dolar, ja prav si slišal na dolar.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: fur80 ()

Pac-Man ::
Ah, še Japonska bo kupovala nad kapico, kaj šele druge države. Ta kapica je nesmiselen in neizvedljiv ukrep.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-brea...
Si prebral članek? Male količine utekočinjenega plina z dovoljeno izjemo.
Kitajska in Indija se pa vmes veselo skrivata za gnilim zahodom. Ker če je cena nad kapico ne dobiš zavarovanja za transport ipd.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Rambutan ::
Ah, še Japonska bo kupovala nad kapico, kaj šele druge države. Ta kapica je nesmiselen in neizvedljiv ukrep.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-brea...
Si prebral članek? Male količine utekočinjenega plina z dovoljeno izjemo.
Kitajska in Indija se pa vmes veselo skrivata za gnilim zahodom. Ker če je cena nad kapico ne dobiš zavarovanja za transport ipd.
Nobena firma se ni pripravljena pipnit nafte nad kapico, kupcem pa povsem ustreza, da kupujejo poceni in se izgovarjajo na gnili zahod.
Ti si napisal da nihče ni pripravljen kupovati nad kapico. Japonci so si izpogajali izjemo, da lahko kupujejo nad ceno. Ne vem kaj imajo količine veze pri temu.

Rambutan ::
BTW, Rusija pojasnjuje padec rublja, razlog je zmanjšanje izvoza in povečanju uvoza zaradi povečanega domačega povpraševanja. Pravijo, da se bo v prihodnost tečaj uravnal
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stori...
MOSCOW. April 10 (Interfax) - Current declines for the ruble are prompted by the fall in export revenues after the introduction of the oil price cap, and the situation will level out in the future, Central Bank of Russia Deputy Governor Alexei Zabotkin said at a joint working group meeting to prepare for the consideration of the CBR's annual report for 2022 in the State Duma.
"What is a factor is that, indeed, export revenues have declined. This is due to the fact that export revenues follow sales volumes and sales prices with a certain lag, because we ship goods today, but the export revenues for them arrive in a month and a half, two, three months later. That's just the way the technology of payments is set up," Zabotkin said.
Export revenues currently reflect the situation with prices and volumes, primarily oil and gas exports, seen in late December - early January, "when the situation was the most challenging in terms of the effects of the price cap," Zabotkin said.
"After we pass the low point associated with the introduction of the cap on petroleum products, which happened in February, then export earnings will begin to recover. At the same time, imports, as we know, are growing steadily, including for reasons related to the need for production chains and so on to recover. In these conditions, this weakening of the exchange rate is the result of the fact that we are now bottoming out in terms of export earnings due to its slump at the beginning of the year. The trend will be smoother going forward," Zabotkin said.
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stori...
MOSCOW. April 10 (Interfax) - Current declines for the ruble are prompted by the fall in export revenues after the introduction of the oil price cap, and the situation will level out in the future, Central Bank of Russia Deputy Governor Alexei Zabotkin said at a joint working group meeting to prepare for the consideration of the CBR's annual report for 2022 in the State Duma.
"What is a factor is that, indeed, export revenues have declined. This is due to the fact that export revenues follow sales volumes and sales prices with a certain lag, because we ship goods today, but the export revenues for them arrive in a month and a half, two, three months later. That's just the way the technology of payments is set up," Zabotkin said.
Export revenues currently reflect the situation with prices and volumes, primarily oil and gas exports, seen in late December - early January, "when the situation was the most challenging in terms of the effects of the price cap," Zabotkin said.
"After we pass the low point associated with the introduction of the cap on petroleum products, which happened in February, then export earnings will begin to recover. At the same time, imports, as we know, are growing steadily, including for reasons related to the need for production chains and so on to recover. In these conditions, this weakening of the exchange rate is the result of the fact that we are now bottoming out in terms of export earnings due to its slump at the beginning of the year. The trend will be smoother going forward," Zabotkin said.

scythe ::
BTW, Rusija pojasnjuje padec rublja, razlog je zmanjšanje izvoza in povečanju uvoza zaradi povečanega domačega povpraševanja. Pravijo, da se bo v prihodnost tečaj uravnal
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stori...
MOSCOW. April 10 (Interfax) - Current declines for the ruble are prompted by the fall in export revenues after the introduction of the oil price cap, and the situation will level out in the future, Central Bank of Russia Deputy Governor Alexei Zabotkin said at a joint working group meeting to prepare for the consideration of the CBR's annual report for 2022 in the State Duma.
"What is a factor is that, indeed, export revenues have declined. This is due to the fact that export revenues follow sales volumes and sales prices with a certain lag, because we ship goods today, but the export revenues for them arrive in a month and a half, two, three months later. That's just the way the technology of payments is set up," Zabotkin said.
Export revenues currently reflect the situation with prices and volumes, primarily oil and gas exports, seen in late December - early January, "when the situation was the most challenging in terms of the effects of the price cap," Zabotkin said.
"After we pass the low point associated with the introduction of the cap on petroleum products, which happened in February, then export earnings will begin to recover. At the same time, imports, as we know, are growing steadily, including for reasons related to the need for production chains and so on to recover. In these conditions, this weakening of the exchange rate is the result of the fact that we are now bottoming out in terms of export earnings due to its slump at the beginning of the year. The trend will be smoother going forward," Zabotkin said.
To že 2 meseca poslušamo, sankcije so začele delovati, tako kot so analitiki napovedali, šele 1 leto po uvedbi bodo zagrable, prvi znaki so pa bili decembra 2022.
Rusija je v 2 mesecih naredila toliko minusa, kot ni ZDA/EU dala za komplet orožje v ukrajini do danes. To nekaj pove...
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Rambutan ::
To pa res ne razumem, zakaj naj bi sankcije kar naenkrat začele delovati komaj 10 mesecev po uveljavitvi... Lahko malo razložiš?
Če je to res, bomo sicer verjetno zvedeli komaj konec leta. IMF sicer letos napoveduje Rusiji večjo rast kot Nemčiji in VB...
https://intellinews.com/imf-issues-russ...
Če je to res, bomo sicer verjetno zvedeli komaj konec leta. IMF sicer letos napoveduje Rusiji večjo rast kot Nemčiji in VB...
https://intellinews.com/imf-issues-russ...