Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

mackilla je 10. apr 2023 ob 15:08 izjavil:

Saj je povsem logično,da prikrivaš podatke tudi pred zavezniki. Če se prav spomnim Japonci niso javili Nemcem,da bodo napadli Pearl Harbor kot zanimivost niso spustili nemških atašejev niti na svoje najtežje bojne ladje,da ne bi razkrili kaliber topov. Pravtako zavezniki niso razkrili detajlev glede invazije v Normandiji in podobno. Kot seveda tudi Rusi niso razkrivali svojih načrtov zaveznikom. Vohunili so pa seveda vsi med sabo. Zdaj se pa folk čudi kot,da je nekaj neverjetnega,da Američani vohunijo pri Ukrajincih oziroma mogoče celo Ukrajinci pri Američanih. To je splošna praksa,ki je znana vsem politikom in vojaškim uslužbencem po vsem svetu. Prav tako je popolnoma logično,da Ukrajinci ne razkrivajo svojih načrtov zahodu. Podatki glede ofenzive so verjetno znani peščici ljudi v Ukrajini in NATO poveljstvu. Razni anonimni viri,ki jih navajajo časopisi so seveda zgolj ugibanja kakšnih nižjih uradnikov,ki slepi tipajo po temi. Da sploh ne govorim o nekih rusofilskih analizah,da se Zelenski skriva po bunkerjih,ker Američani pridobivajo podatke o Ukrajini. To mu je seveda popolnoma logično saj ni neki retard,ki razpravlja o politiki z pijanci po gostilnah

Zanimivo je predvsem to, da odkar se je v leakanih dokumentih izvedelo, da ZDA prisluškujejo Zelenskemu, on vsakodnevne video nagovore snema iz bunkerja. Verjetno mu je protiobveščevalna služba razkopala pisarno med iskanjem prisluškovalnih naprav
Vsekakor ni mogoče iz tega povleči nekih zaključkov, je pa to indic, da ta leak ni bil nameren.

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/videos/...

En dan lutka v rokah americanov.
Naslednji dan dobesedno komandira amerikance.

Divje
Hude droge

The Times o prihajajoči ofenzivi, v primeru neuspeha ofenzive se Ukrajini slabo piše, Biden ima volitve naslednje leto...

Is this Ukraine’s last chance to drive back Putin?
Morale is high among President Zelensky’s troops, but growing doubts about western support could make his spring offensive make or break

https://archive.ph/UCAEa

For both sides, with the strange and violent exception of the endless battle for Bakhmut, the military emphasis is now on preserving ammunition without showing signs of weakness or giving away the big secret of fresh force. Western military planners believe that the Ukrainian army now has enough ammunition for one big push this year — so long as it is used wisely and not according to the old “firewall tactics” of the Soviet era: continuous, intensive bombardment.

If the push does not work, they say there will be enough to resume the defensive posture the Ukrainian side has taken since last year’s two major breakthroughs, when it recaptured southern Kharkiv province in September and Kherson city in November.

But there will not be enough for a second push and it is an open question whether there will be a further major round of rearmament by Ukraine’s western allies. Western Europe, its armies under-resourced and under-funded in recent decades, is running out of supplies. The Biden administration has competing priorities — in the Far East and, above all, in fighting the 2024 presidential election against a resurgent Donald Trump.
That gives the counteroffensive, whenever it comes, a make-or-break feel. Those in Europe and the United States who have held off urging fresh negotiations, almost certainly involving land for peace, will begin to speak up again if another stalemate looms.

Zgodbo ofenzive je treba prodajati kot malo verjetno. Če uspe, so vsi srečni, če ne uspe, ni presenečenj.

Neverjetno, kakšne osnove je treba nekatere na tem forumu učiti.

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https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/16452276...
Kyiv is depleting its last reserves of S-300 missiles, making it possible for Russia to achieve air superiority, according to purported Pentagon presentations

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https://twitter.com/noclador/status/164...
Ugh... crap headline. Don't bother reading anything further than the headline. Because Ukraine was running out of S-300 missiles it received Patriot and SAMP/T batteries, which are far, far better at shooting down russian jets.
So this WSJ scaremongering is bollocks.

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https://twitter.com/noclador/status/164...

For the non-military people:

UKRAINE WILL NEVER RUN OUT OF AIR-DEFENSE MISSILES!

Ignore scaremongering journalists, who want to scare you into reading their nonsense.
According to the leaked Pentagon papers on 1 March Ukraine had 421 S-300 missiles and was using around 180 of these per month. So without missile resupply Ukraine would be out of S-300 missiles by May.
BUT Ukraine got 2x Patriot and 1x SAMP/T batteries: two systems that are far, far, far superior in everything when compared to the S-300s Ukraine had.

Ukraine will operate the three batteries at its most important sites = the sites russia attacks most often.

And due to this S-300 missile expenditure per month will drop to maybe 60 missiles.
Now Ukraine will run out of them in July or August... but as Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Egypt, and Greece are quietly resupplying Ukraine with missiles there will be enough S-300 missiles until fall. That's more than half a year... and in that time 7x NASAMS, 3x IRIS-T, 3x Aspide, an undisclosed number of HAWK, more SAMP/T and Patriot batteries will arrive.

And at the same time the US and Ukraine are working to mount RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles onto Ukrainian BUK launchers.
Ukraine would be in trouble if the West wouldn't deliver new systems and batteries. But as the situation is now - no worries. russian fighter jets will continue to be shot down every time they enter Ukrainian air space.
The real problem Ukraine has is fighter jets... for them spares and missiles are running out; and the West has so far not sent a single F-15, F-16, F-18, Eurofighter, Rafale, or Gripen to Ukraine... and that is a huge problem.

kratek video, vidnih je 8-9 oklepnikov s posadko

https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status...

Ukrainian Mastiff MRAPs.

ehehe... prav za Rambutana :D

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/statu...
On today's edition of Mesto Vstrechi, Alexei Naumov brought up the information on Russian losses in Ukraine from the Pentagon leak

A ni zanimivo, da je Rusu na prvi ruski TV jasno, da ima Rusija precej več žrtev, kot pa Rambutanu, ki fantazira o 10:1?!

Utk je 10. apr 2023 ob 20:49 izjavil:

PacificBlue je 10. apr 2023 ob 20:44 izjavil:

https://twitter.com/radarhits/status/16...

In? Glavno da Rusi čim manj dobijo za nafto, misliš da Arabci delajo to zastojn?

Cena bo šla gor:
https://apnews.com/article/opec-oil-sup...

PacificBlue je 10. apr 2023 ob 21:04 izjavil:

Utk je 10. apr 2023 ob 20:49 izjavil:

PacificBlue je 10. apr 2023 ob 20:44 izjavil:

https://twitter.com/radarhits/status/16...

In? Glavno da Rusi čim manj dobijo za nafto, misliš da Arabci delajo to zastojn?

Cena bo šla gor:
https://apnews.com/article/opec-oil-sup...

Ampak ne Ruska prodajna, ker že sedaj prodajajo pod nivojem kapice.
To je bistvo.

Se ne spomnim, če sem že lepil ali sem jo našel med zaklepom teme, v glavnem tale Sarcasmitronova še nedokončana serija je dobra

How Ukraine's Fake Culture War Became a Real Geopolitical Conflict


Part one of a series where I try to figure out why Russia invaded Ukraine.
The outline for the series will go something like this

Part One: A history of Ukraine before the war, and how its incredibly Byzantine politics accidently sucked in its paranoid neighbor.
Part Two: A history of Russia's war on Ukraine from 2014 to the escalation in 2022, and how it ended up sparking a new Cold War.
Part Three: A survey of all the popular theories of why Russia invaded Ukraine and why they're wrong, and a history of American foreign policy in Eastern Europe, especially NATO expansion.
Part Four: The incredibly stupid and insane story of a fringe political sect and how it connects to both the war and a lot of other terrible things that have happened in the last 10 years.



A Short History of the War in Donbas 2014 2022


Part 2 of this four-part series about Russia's war on Ukraine, covers Russia's first invasion of the country in 2014, and how despite not accomplishing much on the battlefield, Russia was able to convince the world through propaganda that Ukraine was simply having a civil war, and go mostly unpunished. A success that would lead Russia to launch more ambitious propaganda operations in the coming following years.


Shut Up About NATO Expansion


Part 3 of 4
In which I talk about NATO Expansion, partly to debunk the idea that it caused the war but mostly as a springboard for explaining the evolution of the Russian-American relationship

Malce branja o pobeglih dokumentih ZDA:
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-u...

Fritz je 11. apr 2023 ob 05:00 izjavil:

Malce branja o pobeglih dokumentih ZDA:
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-u...

Smo že ugotovili. Dokumenti so pristni in cifre resnične ampak samo tiste,ki odgovarjajo povprečnemu rusofilu. Sicer nekako ne zaupam tipu,ki poskuša ruska poraza pri Harkovu in Hersonu zaviti v celofan in jih prodati kot nekakšna uspeha. Servira ruski copium začinjen z blebetanjem in nakladanjem o vojaški taktiki,da bi ipadel kredibilen.

"The issue is essentially that Oryx gathers data passively, by having people on social media send them pictures, which they then look at and mark as verified losses. Social media, however, has a pro-Ukrainian bias which leads to a flood of allegedly destroyed Russian vehicles coming in, and Oryx seems to have a weak filter that uncritically verifies almost all of these claims. As a result, Russian losses are drastically overcounted, and Ukrainian losses are undercounted."

Kakšna popolna laž. Res, človek nima pojma, da je Oryx odstranil en kup opreme iz liste v preteklosti...

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/sta...
In Russia, the authorities will start sending electronic summonses to Russians.
They will have the same legal force as a regular summons from the military registration and enlistment office.

Ne bi pošiljali T54/55, če ne bi imeli blaznih izgub. Cifra je vsaj 30% višja od Oryx-a... mogoče celo blizu tistega, kar ukrajinci poročajo.

Zepter101 je 11. apr 2023 ob 07:20 izjavil:

Včasih ko sem bolj spremljal to sem opažal da gre cifra uničenih npr. tankov gor, naslednji dan pa je bila nižja kot prejšnji, ker so dvomljive pometali stran.

Točno tako!

Čudovit opis Ruske družbe :)

https://www.quora.com/How-do-Russians-s...

Misha piše prispevke, ki bi jih moral prebrati vsak vnet podpornik Rusov v tejle temi. Odlično nastavlja ogledalo Putinovemu režimu in Z nacistom.

Ampak verjamem, da bi jim bilo neprijetno brati kaj takega in niti nimajo mentalne kapacitete za samorefleksijo.

Zelo vreden ogleda je tudi tale YT kanal: https://www.youtube.com/@roman_nfkrz

Treba je prebrat kaj o Rusiji menijo Rusi. In ne oprani praznoglavci, ki pedlajo Putino propagando.

Washington Post piše o možnostih za uspeh ukrajinske ofenzive in stanju ukrajinske vojske. Zgleda, da se tudi ZDA zavedajo, da ta ofenziva nima velikih možnosti za uspeh. Kaj pa pravite pro ukrajinci na ST, kakšne so možnosti za uspeh? Jest mislim, da bo ta ofenziva začetek konca, če jo bodo sploh sprožili v večjem obsegu.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national...

Ukraine’s challenges in massing troops, ammunition and equipment could cause its military to fall “well short” of Kyiv’s original goals for an anticipated counteroffensive aimed at retaking Russian-occupied areas this spring, according to U.S. intelligence assessments contained in a growing leak of classified documents revealing Washington’s misgivings about the state of the war.

Labeled “top secret,” the bleak assessment from early February warns of significant “force generation and sustainment shortfalls,” and the likelihood that such an operation will result in only “modest territorial gains.” It’s a marked departure from the Biden administration’s public statements about the vitality of Ukraine’s military and is likely to embolden critics who feel the United States and NATO should do more to push for a negotiated settlement to the conflict.

The document forecasting only modest success in Ukraine’s forthcoming counteroffensive indicates that Kyiv’s strategy revolves around reclaiming contested areas in the east while pushing south in a bid to sever Russia’s land bridge to Crimea, the peninsula Moscow illegally annexed in 2014 and now uses as a supply route for its forces inside Ukraine. The potency of entrenched Russian defenses coupled with “enduring Ukrainian deficiencies in training and munitions supplies probably will strain progress and exacerbate casualties during the offensive,” the document says.

In the weeks since the leaked document was drafted, U.S. officials have held talks with Ukrainian leaders to ensure that Kyiv’s ambitions for the offensive match its capabilities, said U.S. officials who, like others interviewed for this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter. One senior-level exchange occurred in mid-March during a call among Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Jake Sullivan, the president’s national security adviser; Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin; and their Ukrainian counterparts.

U.S. officials also have held tabletop exercises with Ukrainian military leaders to demonstrate how different offensive scenarios could play out, and the consequences of spreading forces too thin, one official said. This could stretch supply lines too far, making it difficult to hold retaken territory while trying to push further into occupied areas.

All parties came away from those conversations with a sense that Ukraine was beginning to understand the limitations of what it could achieve in the offensive and preparing accordingly, U.S. officials said. While severing the land bridge is unlikely to happen, these people said, the United States is hopeful that incremental gains could at least threaten the free flow of Russian equipment and personnel in the corridor, which has been a lifeline for invading forces.

A senior Ukrainian official did not dispute the revelations in the document and pointed to logistical backlogs that have slowed promised deliveries of Western aid. It is “partially true,” the official said, “but the most critical part is a delay of the already promised systems, which delays training of newly formed brigades and the counteroffensive as a whole.” Several nations, including the United States, have committed battle tanks and other armored vehicles to Ukraine but only after agonizing over the decision to do so, drawing criticism from Kyiv and its staunchest backers in Eastern Europe. Washington has accelerated plans to send a bloc of Abrams tanks, but delivery remains months away.

Another senior Ukrainian official said the leaked documents were unlikely to compromise the planned counteroffensive. “Everyone knows we’re low on ammunition — the president and the defense minister talk about that openly,” the official said. “And it’s been obvious to everyone since November that the next counteroffensive will be focused on the south, first Melitopol and then Berdyansk. But the exact place — we can change that the week before.”

Military personnel in the field have in recent weeks complained that newly mobilized troops arriving on the front lines are poorly trained. But the situation on the battlefield now may not reflect a complete picture of Ukraine’s forces, because Kyiv is training troops for the coming counteroffensive separately — deliberately holding them back from the current fighting, including the defense of Bakhmut, a U.S. official said.

The prospect of pouring billions of dollars into a military stalemate with only incremental gains in one direction or another could weaken the resolve of Kyiv’s backers in Europe and in the United States, possibly sharpening calls for negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow.

S tem se preparira javno mnenje (ki je itak proukrajinsko) v smeri, da jim moramo poslati še več orožja, če želimo da Ukrajinska ofenziva uspe.

Zakaj morami tle učiti Rambutana tako osnovne stvari?

Rambutan je 11. apr 2023 ob 10:53 izjavil:

fur80 je 10. apr 2023 ob 21:14 izjavil:

Rambutan je 10. apr 2023 ob 15:48 izjavil:

Zanimivo je predvsem to, da odkar se je v leakanih dokumentih izvedelo, da ZDA prisluškujejo Zelenskemu, on vsakodnevne video nagovore snema iz bunkerja. Verjetno mu je protiobveščevalna služba razkopala pisarno med iskanjem prisluškovalnih naprav
Vsekakor ni mogoče iz tega povleči nekih zaključkov, je pa to indic, da ta leak ni bil nameren.

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/videos/...

Kolko si ti star? Kaj misliš, da ti ljudje ne pomislijo 2 koraka naprej? Če igraš šah, boš mogoče razumel! Zelenski je profesionani igralec, USA so profesionalni režiserji, ne pozabi kje je Hollywood!!! ;)

Pa še nekaj, ne govori, da je USA in NATO bil poražen v Afganistanu, ker nimaš pojma, še par prijateljev je bilo na misiji tam, pa smo bolj podrobno spremljali konflikt! In spopad in zavzetje države nima veze potem z tragikomičnim umikom USA, ki ga je zahteval Trump in nesposobno Afganistansko profesionalno vojsko.

Če praviš, da sta bila ZDA in NATO uspešna v Afganistanu, potem bo po takih kriterijih lahko uspešna tudi Ukrajina.

To, da je Zelenski igralec in da so ZDA režiserji, je pa največji problem zahodne politike, osredotočajo se predvsem na to, da zmagujejo medijsko vojno in vzdržujejo propagando. Vojaški rezultati so pa poraz za porazom, Irak, Afganistan, Sirija, Libija... Pa še nič se ne naučijo iz porazov, tako da bodo poraženi tudi v Ukrajini.

Daješ popolnoma zgrešene primerjave. Če praviš,da sta bila ZDA in NATO neuspešna v Afganistanu,potem bo po teh kriterijih enako neuspešna tudi Rusija

Sheteentz je 11. apr 2023 ob 11:21 izjavil:

S tem se preparira javno mnenje (ki je itak proukrajinsko) v smeri, da jim moramo poslati še več orožja, če želimo da Ukrajinska ofenziva uspe.

Zakaj morami tle učiti Rambutana tako osnovne stvari?

Zakaj bi bilo treba zdaj tik pred ofenzivo preparirati javno mnenje? Kot si že sam povedal, je to itak pro ukrajinsko. Za pošiljanje dodatnega orožja je pa zdaj itak prepozno, potrebno bi ga bilo zbrati, in še izuriti Ukrajince na uporabo. Sploh pa javnost ne odloča o pošiljanju orožja, o tem odločajo vlade, ki pa večinoma pravijo, da so že poslali vse kar so lahko.

Meni se zdi bolj verjetno, da se s tem pripravlja javnost na prihajajoči poraz.

Rambutan je 11. apr 2023 ob 10:53 izjavil:

fur80 je 10. apr 2023 ob 21:14 izjavil:

Rambutan je 10. apr 2023 ob 15:48 izjavil:

Zanimivo je predvsem to, da odkar se je v leakanih dokumentih izvedelo, da ZDA prisluškujejo Zelenskemu, on vsakodnevne video nagovore snema iz bunkerja. Verjetno mu je protiobveščevalna služba razkopala pisarno med iskanjem prisluškovalnih naprav
Vsekakor ni mogoče iz tega povleči nekih zaključkov, je pa to indic, da ta leak ni bil nameren.

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/videos/...

Kolko si ti star? Kaj misliš, da ti ljudje ne pomislijo 2 koraka naprej? Če igraš šah, boš mogoče razumel! Zelenski je profesionani igralec, USA so profesionalni režiserji, ne pozabi kje je Hollywood!!! ;)

Pa še nekaj, ne govori, da je USA in NATO bil poražen v Afganistanu, ker nimaš pojma, še par prijateljev je bilo na misiji tam, pa smo bolj podrobno spremljali konflikt! In spopad in zavzetje države nima veze potem z tragikomičnim umikom USA, ki ga je zahteval Trump in nesposobno Afganistansko profesionalno vojsko.

Če praviš, da sta bila ZDA in NATO uspešna v Afganistanu, potem bo po takih kriterijih lahko uspešna tudi Ukrajina.

To, da je Zelenski igralec in da so ZDA režiserji, je pa največji problem zahodne politike, osredotočajo se predvsem na to, da zmagujejo medijsko vojno in vzdržujejo propagando. Vojaški rezultati so pa poraz za porazom, Irak, Afganistan, Sirija, Libija... Pa še nič se ne naučijo iz porazov, tako da bodo poraženi tudi v Ukrajini.

Morda midva ne veva, lahko pa vprašamo Bin Ladna, Huseina, Gadafija, Al Bagddija, Miloševića... za mnenje, če je bila USA vojaško uspešna. Sploh pa ni bil cilj USA si prisvojiti ozemlje in ga imeti kot svojo državo, to menda ja veš. Med drugim so pokazali tudi superiornost svojih orožij, za razliko od Rusov.

Rambutan je 11. apr 2023 ob 11:18 izjavil:

Washington Post piše o možnostih za uspeh ukrajinske ofenzive in stanju ukrajinske vojske. Zgleda, da se tudi ZDA zavedajo, da ta ofenziva nima velikih možnosti za uspeh. Kaj pa pravite pro ukrajinci na ST, kakšne so možnosti za uspeh? Jest mislim, da bo ta ofenziva začetek konca, če jo bodo sploh sprožili v večjem obsegu.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national...

Ukraine’s challenges in massing troops, ammunition and equipment could cause its military to fall “well short” of Kyiv’s original goals for an anticipated counteroffensive aimed at retaking Russian-occupied areas this spring, according to U.S. intelligence assessments contained in a growing leak of classified documents revealing Washington’s misgivings about the state of the war.

Labeled “top secret,” the bleak assessment from early February warns of significant “force generation and sustainment shortfalls,” and the likelihood that such an operation will result in only “modest territorial gains.” It’s a marked departure from the Biden administration’s public statements about the vitality of Ukraine’s military and is likely to embolden critics who feel the United States and NATO should do more to push for a negotiated settlement to the conflict.

The document forecasting only modest success in Ukraine’s forthcoming counteroffensive indicates that Kyiv’s strategy revolves around reclaiming contested areas in the east while pushing south in a bid to sever Russia’s land bridge to Crimea, the peninsula Moscow illegally annexed in 2014 and now uses as a supply route for its forces inside Ukraine. The potency of entrenched Russian defenses coupled with “enduring Ukrainian deficiencies in training and munitions supplies probably will strain progress and exacerbate casualties during the offensive,” the document says.

In the weeks since the leaked document was drafted, U.S. officials have held talks with Ukrainian leaders to ensure that Kyiv’s ambitions for the offensive match its capabilities, said U.S. officials who, like others interviewed for this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter. One senior-level exchange occurred in mid-March during a call among Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Jake Sullivan, the president’s national security adviser; Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin; and their Ukrainian counterparts.

U.S. officials also have held tabletop exercises with Ukrainian military leaders to demonstrate how different offensive scenarios could play out, and the consequences of spreading forces too thin, one official said. This could stretch supply lines too far, making it difficult to hold retaken territory while trying to push further into occupied areas.

All parties came away from those conversations with a sense that Ukraine was beginning to understand the limitations of what it could achieve in the offensive and preparing accordingly, U.S. officials said. While severing the land bridge is unlikely to happen, these people said, the United States is hopeful that incremental gains could at least threaten the free flow of Russian equipment and personnel in the corridor, which has been a lifeline for invading forces.

A senior Ukrainian official did not dispute the revelations in the document and pointed to logistical backlogs that have slowed promised deliveries of Western aid. It is “partially true,” the official said, “but the most critical part is a delay of the already promised systems, which delays training of newly formed brigades and the counteroffensive as a whole.” Several nations, including the United States, have committed battle tanks and other armored vehicles to Ukraine but only after agonizing over the decision to do so, drawing criticism from Kyiv and its staunchest backers in Eastern Europe. Washington has accelerated plans to send a bloc of Abrams tanks, but delivery remains months away.

Another senior Ukrainian official said the leaked documents were unlikely to compromise the planned counteroffensive. “Everyone knows we’re low on ammunition — the president and the defense minister talk about that openly,” the official said. “And it’s been obvious to everyone since November that the next counteroffensive will be focused on the south, first Melitopol and then Berdyansk. But the exact place — we can change that the week before.”

Military personnel in the field have in recent weeks complained that newly mobilized troops arriving on the front lines are poorly trained. But the situation on the battlefield now may not reflect a complete picture of Ukraine’s forces, because Kyiv is training troops for the coming counteroffensive separately — deliberately holding them back from the current fighting, including the defense of Bakhmut, a U.S. official said.

The prospect of pouring billions of dollars into a military stalemate with only incremental gains in one direction or another could weaken the resolve of Kyiv’s backers in Europe and in the United States, possibly sharpening calls for negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow.

Sam najbolje veš kako je s temi napovedmi. Lani si napovedal obkolitev ukrajinske vojske in padec Krematorska in Slavjanska do septembra oziroma oktobra. Letos spet padec Bakhmuta pred marcem in spet obkolitev ukrajinske vojske ter padec Krematorska in Slavjanska do začetka poletja. Rajši se izogibaj retardiranih napovedih,ki jih postavljaš na podlagi informacij pridobljenih pri ruskih blogerjih. Vsi ostali se jih in nam ni potrebno menjati nickov kot manekenke menjajo gate