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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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Chalky ::
Equipment Poland will buy to become the largest land army in Europe.
According to The Telegraph, Poland plans to:
to spend 4% of GDP on defense, which is twice the NATO standards;
Purchase arms worth $117 billion by 2035;
increase the size of the army to 300 thousand people.
Poland builds Europe's largest land force to counter Russian threat
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/...
Zgoraj niso všteta bojna letala F-35 (64 kosov). Poleg tega ima poljska še Aegis Ashore. Po vrhu pa gradijo še ogromno vojaško bazo.
According to The Telegraph, Poland plans to:
to spend 4% of GDP on defense, which is twice the NATO standards;
Purchase arms worth $117 billion by 2035;
increase the size of the army to 300 thousand people.
Poland builds Europe's largest land force to counter Russian threat
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/...
Zgoraj niso všteta bojna letala F-35 (64 kosov). Poleg tega ima poljska še Aegis Ashore. Po vrhu pa gradijo še ogromno vojaško bazo.
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Chalky ::
Politico's statistics on EU trade with Russia in 2022. Only a minority of the EU countries have decreased their trade with Russia, most have increased.
Slovenija se niti ne trudi.
Slovenija se niti ne trudi.
fur80 ::
Politico's statistics on EU trade with Russia in 2022. Only a minority of the EU countries have decreased their trade with Russia, most have increased.
Slovenija se niti ne trudi.
To je bilo zaradi visokih cen energentov v letu 2022. ;) Bo zanimivo videti graf za tekoče leto 2023.
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Chalky ::
The strategic bomber "B-52H Stratofortress" of the US Air Force, capable of carrying nuclear weapons, about 2 hours ago went to the position of launching missiles in St. Petersburg near the island of Gotland, which is located at a distance of about 200 km from the northern capital.
After that, the American bomber made a sharp turn and left in the direction of Estonia. And it is already in Lithuanian airspace.
Russian sources suggest that the bomber worked out the launch of cruise missiles at St. Petersburg.
Kar velika provokacija ZDA. Tako se prične 3 svetovna. Ena raketa je dovolj.
Edit:
The American strategic bomber "B-52N Stratofortress" of the US Air Force is currently flying past the Kaliningrad region, before making a circle through the Baltic.
Še vedno v zraku. Praktično je zaokrožil okoli Kaliningrada. Mater je kar prestro danes tam okoli.
After that, the American bomber made a sharp turn and left in the direction of Estonia. And it is already in Lithuanian airspace.
Russian sources suggest that the bomber worked out the launch of cruise missiles at St. Petersburg.
Kar velika provokacija ZDA. Tako se prične 3 svetovna. Ena raketa je dovolj.
Edit:
The American strategic bomber "B-52N Stratofortress" of the US Air Force is currently flying past the Kaliningrad region, before making a circle through the Baltic.
Še vedno v zraku. Praktično je zaokrožil okoli Kaliningrada. Mater je kar prestro danes tam okoli.
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fur80 ::
The strategic bomber "B-52H Stratofortress" of the US Air Force, capable of carrying nuclear weapons, about 2 hours ago went to the position of launching missiles in St. Petersburg near the island of Gotland, which is located at a distance of about 200 km from the northern capital.
After that, the American bomber made a sharp turn and left in the direction of Estonia. And it is already in Lithuanian airspace.
Russian sources suggest that the bomber worked out the launch of cruise missiles at St. Petersburg.
Kar velika provokacija ZDA. Tako se prične 3 svetovna. Ena raketa je dovolj.
Edit:
The American strategic bomber "B-52N Stratofortress" of the US Air Force is currently flying past the Kaliningrad region, before making a circle through the Baltic.
Še vedno v zraku. Praktično je zaokrožil okoli Kaliningrada. Mater je kar prestro danes tam okoli.
Turki so sklatli dol rusko letalo, ko so mislili, da je bil v njihovem zračnem prostoru, pa ni bilo nič.
Chalky ::
@fur80
Resno misliš da če bi Rusi sklatili B-52 bombnik da bi Američani samo gledali? Ni pogojev.
Resno misliš da če bi Rusi sklatili B-52 bombnik da bi Američani samo gledali? Ni pogojev.
Lonsarg ::
Morda ne ravno nič, vsekakor pa ne direkt vojna zaradi enega letala. Obstajajo protokoli za take zadeve. Vodilnim je v interesu začet vojno takrat ko se odločijo, nočejo jih začeti ponesreči.
Sicer pa je situacija dovolj pestra da se za take malenkosti kot je prelet letal noben ne sekira.
Sicer pa je situacija dovolj pestra da se za take malenkosti kot je prelet letal noben ne sekira.
scythe ::
The strategic bomber "B-52H Stratofortress" of the US Air Force, capable of carrying nuclear weapons, about 2 hours ago went to the position of launching missiles in St. Petersburg near the island of Gotland, which is located at a distance of about 200 km from the northern capital.
After that, the American bomber made a sharp turn and left in the direction of Estonia. And it is already in Lithuanian airspace.
Russian sources suggest that the bomber worked out the launch of cruise missiles at St. Petersburg.
Kar velika provokacija ZDA. Tako se prične 3 svetovna. Ena raketa je dovolj.
Edit:
The American strategic bomber "B-52N Stratofortress" of the US Air Force is currently flying past the Kaliningrad region, before making a circle through the Baltic.
Še vedno v zraku. Praktično je zaokrožil okoli Kaliningrada. Mater je kar prestro danes tam okoli.
Nobena pravokacija, izvajajo misijo BTF 23-2. Je bila novica konec Februarja, zakaj so bombniki v EU.
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primoz4p ::
Srbske govorice:
Priča se, da je ruski raketni napad na Ukrajinu, odneo živote nekoliko visokorangiranih zapadnih oficira.
Osim toga, ukrajinski lider iz nekog razloga nije sa ponosom izveštavao o presretanju ruskih raketa, što je sve vreme radio. Možda je to zbog činjenice, da je udar odmazde, kako su ga nazvali u ruskom Ministarstvu odbrane, pao ne samo na energetske objekte, već i na centre za kontrolu i planiranje, kao i na PVO/radarske stanice.
,,Insajderi su prijavili teške žrtve među oficirima, uključujući i američke. Čini se da je ,,Generalni štab u senci" opunomoćenika NATO-a imao mnogo problema", izveštavaju ruski mediji.
Štaviše, u ukrajinskoj javnosti se priča, da je 9. marta popodne ambasadu SAD u Kijevu, posetila impresivna delegacija Generalštaba Oružanih snaga Ukrajine. Priča se, da su američkim diplomatama dati spiskovi mrtvih visokih oficira iz Sjedinjenih Država.
Priča se, da je ruski raketni napad na Ukrajinu, odneo živote nekoliko visokorangiranih zapadnih oficira.
Osim toga, ukrajinski lider iz nekog razloga nije sa ponosom izveštavao o presretanju ruskih raketa, što je sve vreme radio. Možda je to zbog činjenice, da je udar odmazde, kako su ga nazvali u ruskom Ministarstvu odbrane, pao ne samo na energetske objekte, već i na centre za kontrolu i planiranje, kao i na PVO/radarske stanice.
,,Insajderi su prijavili teške žrtve među oficirima, uključujući i američke. Čini se da je ,,Generalni štab u senci" opunomoćenika NATO-a imao mnogo problema", izveštavaju ruski mediji.
Štaviše, u ukrajinskoj javnosti se priča, da je 9. marta popodne ambasadu SAD u Kijevu, posetila impresivna delegacija Generalštaba Oružanih snaga Ukrajine. Priča se, da su američkim diplomatama dati spiskovi mrtvih visokih oficira iz Sjedinjenih Država.
Gregor P ::
Priča se ...
The main failure in computers is usually located between keyboard and chair.
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
fur80 ::
Srbske govorice:
Priča se, da je ruski raketni napad na Ukrajinu, odneo živote nekoliko visokorangiranih zapadnih oficira.
Osim toga, ukrajinski lider iz nekog razloga nije sa ponosom izveštavao o presretanju ruskih raketa, što je sve vreme radio. Možda je to zbog činjenice, da je udar odmazde, kako su ga nazvali u ruskom Ministarstvu odbrane, pao ne samo na energetske objekte, već i na centre za kontrolu i planiranje, kao i na PVO/radarske stanice.
,,Insajderi su prijavili teške žrtve među oficirima, uključujući i američke. Čini se da je ,,Generalni štab u senci" opunomoćenika NATO-a imao mnogo problema", izveštavaju ruski mediji.
Štaviše, u ukrajinskoj javnosti se priča, da je 9. marta popodne ambasadu SAD u Kijevu, posetila impresivna delegacija Generalštaba Oružanih snaga Ukrajine. Priča se, da su američkim diplomatama dati spiskovi mrtvih visokih oficira iz Sjedinjenih Država.
Ta stavek si pa lahko samo Srbi izmislijo, da so USA delegati prinesli spisek v Kijev?
Ma kake pravljice so to? Ukrajinci ja vedo, že uro ali dve prej, da bo napad, še po twiterju javijo prej, da ne bi šli oficirji v bunker, ali da niso v bunkerju bi bilo pa smešno. Ukrajinci so sami priznali, da nimajo protizračne za kinžal rakete, kaj se čejo potem hvalit, da so jih sestrelili.
Sem bral zasnjič enega analitika, da toliko generalov kot trdijo Rusi, da so jih Ukrajincem ubili ne bi sposobni niti z atomsko!
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blackbfm ::
Politico's statistics on EU trade with Russia in 2022. Only a minority of the EU countries have decreased their trade with Russia, most have increased.
Slovenija se niti ne trudi.
glede na super ekonomsko stanje rusije jaz to razumem kot da rusija razprodaja svoje dobrine, ali pa drago kupuje naše
sicer pa me za slovenijo me pa ne čudi, samo pogledaš facebook na novičarskih straneh je pod objavami 3/4 proruskih komentarjev , prav komaj čakajo razpad eu in rusko okupacijo
mojsterleo ::
Ta stavek si pa lahko samo Srbi izmislijo, da so USA delegati prinesli spisek v Kijev?S Kinžali ponavadi napadajo tarče visoke vrednosti. Povsem možno sicer je, da so z njimi zadeli ameriško osebje, preden je to imelo možnosti reagirati. (Kinžal leti s hitrostjo cca 3.5 km/s, torej v Ukrajini bi se odzivni čas lahko meril v nekaj deset sekundah).
Ma kake pravljice so to? Ukrajinci ja vedo, že uro ali dve prej, da bo napad, še po twiterju javijo prej, da ne bi šli oficirji v bunker, ali da niso v bunkerju bi bilo pa smešno. Ukrajinci so sami priznali, da nimajo protizračne za kinžal rakete, kaj se čejo potem hvalit, da so jih sestrelili.
Sem bral zasnjič enega analitika, da toliko generalov kot trdijo Rusi, da so jih Ukrajincem ubili ne bi sposobni niti z atomsko!
gozdar1 ::
Zgodbice o nato čatnikih ponavljajo vsakokrat. Od generalov v azovstalu, do obveščevalcev v tistem hotelu.
Bolj so to zgodbice za domačo javnost s katero opravičujejo neuspehe, ker nato.
Bolj so to zgodbice za domačo javnost s katero opravičujejo neuspehe, ker nato.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/thestudyofwar/statu...
#Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova confirmed that there is infighting in the #Kremlin inner circle, that the Kremlin has ceded centralized control over the Russian information space, and that #Putin apparently cannot readily fix it. http://isw.pub/UkrWar031123
During a panel discussion Zakharova said that the #Kremlin cannot replicate the Stalinist approach of establishing a modern equivalent to the Soviet Information Bureau to centrally control #Russia's internal information space due to fighting among unspecified Kremlin "elites."
Zakharova's statement is noteworthy and supports several of ISW's longstanding assessments about deteriorating #Kremlin regime and information space control dynamics.
It is unclear why #Zakharova -- a seasoned senior spokesperson -- would have openly acknowledged these problems in a public setting.
Zakharova may have directly discussed these problems for the first time to temper Russian nationalist milbloggers' expectations regarding the current capabilities of the Kremlin to cohere around a unified narrative -- or possibly even a unified policy.
#Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova confirmed that there is infighting in the #Kremlin inner circle, that the Kremlin has ceded centralized control over the Russian information space, and that #Putin apparently cannot readily fix it. http://isw.pub/UkrWar031123
During a panel discussion Zakharova said that the #Kremlin cannot replicate the Stalinist approach of establishing a modern equivalent to the Soviet Information Bureau to centrally control #Russia's internal information space due to fighting among unspecified Kremlin "elites."
Zakharova's statement is noteworthy and supports several of ISW's longstanding assessments about deteriorating #Kremlin regime and information space control dynamics.
It is unclear why #Zakharova -- a seasoned senior spokesperson -- would have openly acknowledged these problems in a public setting.
Zakharova may have directly discussed these problems for the first time to temper Russian nationalist milbloggers' expectations regarding the current capabilities of the Kremlin to cohere around a unified narrative -- or possibly even a unified policy.
mackilla ::
Srbske govorice:
Priča se, da je ruski raketni napad na Ukrajinu, odneo živote nekoliko visokorangiranih zapadnih oficira.
Osim toga, ukrajinski lider iz nekog razloga nije sa ponosom izveštavao o presretanju ruskih raketa, što je sve vreme radio. Možda je to zbog činjenice, da je udar odmazde, kako su ga nazvali u ruskom Ministarstvu odbrane, pao ne samo na energetske objekte, već i na centre za kontrolu i planiranje, kao i na PVO/radarske stanice.
,,Insajderi su prijavili teške žrtve među oficirima, uključujući i američke. Čini se da je ,,Generalni štab u senci" opunomoćenika NATO-a imao mnogo problema", izveštavaju ruski mediji.
Štaviše, u ukrajinskoj javnosti se priča, da je 9. marta popodne ambasadu SAD u Kijevu, posetila impresivna delegacija Generalštaba Oružanih snaga Ukrajine. Priča se, da su američkim diplomatama dati spiskovi mrtvih visokih oficira iz Sjedinjenih Država.
To je pa zanesljivi vir
https://siol.net/digisvet/novice/srbi-t...
Osrednja značilnost platforme BaiJiahao je, da lahko tam tako rekoč vsak objavi, kar hoče. Podobno kot na blog ali družbena omrežja. Ko srbski Webtribune.rs torej zapiše "BaiJiahao poroča", je to podobno, kot če bi zapisali "Facebook poroča".
fur80 ::
mojsterleo je izjavil:
Ta stavek si pa lahko samo Srbi izmislijo, da so USA delegati prinesli spisek v Kijev?S Kinžali ponavadi napadajo tarče visoke vrednosti. Povsem možno sicer je, da so z njimi zadeli ameriško osebje, preden je to imelo možnosti reagirati. (Kinžal leti s hitrostjo cca 3.5 km/s, torej v Ukrajini bi se odzivni čas lahko meril v nekaj deset sekundah).
Ma kake pravljice so to? Ukrajinci ja vedo, že uro ali dve prej, da bo napad, še po twiterju javijo prej, da ne bi šli oficirji v bunker, ali da niso v bunkerju bi bilo pa smešno. Ukrajinci so sami priznali, da nimajo protizračne za kinžal rakete, kaj se čejo potem hvalit, da so jih sestrelili.
Sem bral zasnjič enega analitika, da toliko generalov kot trdijo Rusi, da so jih Ukrajincem ubili ne bi sposobni niti z atomsko!
Ne gre se zato, kolko raketa leti hitro, gre se zato, da jo iz ladje ali letala izstrelijo, ko se letalo dvigne se že sproži alarm, ali ko zapeljejo ladjo na položaje. To imajo sedaj že zako zverzirano, da vedo, kdaj bodo Rusi napadli, ter koliko raket lahko pričakujejo. Skenirajo pa seveda z radarji in sateliti v realnem času.
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gozdar1 ::
Kinžal je dejansko glorificiran iskaender namontiran na avijon. Težko jih je prestrešt predvsem zaradi kvazibalistične krivulje..
Pac-Man ::
Mobikom, ki so bili na straži na desnem bregu Dnepra, menda sploh niso izdali streliva. Blazne težave z logistiko čez reko ali pa se bojijo upora?
Umrli so, ko so jih med umikom HIMARSali pri mostu.
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/...
Dozens of mobilised Russians from Volgograd are reported to have died after being sent to fight in Ukraine without being given any ammunition. Their deaths are said to have been covered up subsequently, but independent Russian journalists have reported on their story. ⬇️
...
One man told his wife: "Do you understand that the next day they will come to bomb us? I have a sister here, a mother, goddaughters. I'm going to protect you first."
Relatives sold cars and other personal items to equip their men before they were sent to a training area.
...
"Relatives say that the mobilised rebelled and demanded to be taken to exercises more often, to which one of the unit commanders replied: "You are meat."
Disillusionment set in. One man told his wife, "Don’t believe anything that they say in the news, they are bullshitting, not a single word of truth, a complete lie.”
...
Absurdly, the men were not even issued with ammunition. The photograph at the top of this thread was taken in the forest belt near their trenches. The men pose with their weapons – but none of them are loaded or have any ammunition for them.
Another of the men, 'Burda', says that they were told they didn't need ammunition because they were told, "You’re not going to fight, you’ll be on guard". However, the men discovered that they were expected to attack the Ukrainians even without ammunition.
...
Burda says that 70 died in the initial attack on the right (north) bank of the Dnipro, with more being killed on the left (south) bank. He says that he personally identified 32 dead from one of the trucks in the convoy, in which everyone inside was killed.
...
The exact number of casualties is unclear. No Future has been able to confirm 24 names. Other sources have counted between 25 and 70 dead.
Umrli so, ko so jih med umikom HIMARSali pri mostu.
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/...
Dozens of mobilised Russians from Volgograd are reported to have died after being sent to fight in Ukraine without being given any ammunition. Their deaths are said to have been covered up subsequently, but independent Russian journalists have reported on their story. ⬇️
One man told his wife: "Do you understand that the next day they will come to bomb us? I have a sister here, a mother, goddaughters. I'm going to protect you first."
Relatives sold cars and other personal items to equip their men before they were sent to a training area.
...
"Relatives say that the mobilised rebelled and demanded to be taken to exercises more often, to which one of the unit commanders replied: "You are meat."
Disillusionment set in. One man told his wife, "Don’t believe anything that they say in the news, they are bullshitting, not a single word of truth, a complete lie.”
...
Absurdly, the men were not even issued with ammunition. The photograph at the top of this thread was taken in the forest belt near their trenches. The men pose with their weapons – but none of them are loaded or have any ammunition for them.
Another of the men, 'Burda', says that they were told they didn't need ammunition because they were told, "You’re not going to fight, you’ll be on guard". However, the men discovered that they were expected to attack the Ukrainians even without ammunition.
...
Burda says that 70 died in the initial attack on the right (north) bank of the Dnipro, with more being killed on the left (south) bank. He says that he personally identified 32 dead from one of the trucks in the convoy, in which everyone inside was killed.
...
The exact number of casualties is unclear. No Future has been able to confirm 24 names. Other sources have counted between 25 and 70 dead.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fikus_ ::
The strategic bomber "B-52H Stratofortress" of the US Air Force, capable of carrying nuclear weapons, about 2 hours ago went to the position of launching missiles in St. Petersburg near the island of Gotland, which is located at a distance of about 200 km from the northern capital.
After that, the American bomber made a sharp turn and left in the direction of Estonia. And it is already in Lithuanian airspace.
Russian sources suggest that the bomber worked out the launch of cruise missiles at St. Petersburg.
Kar velika provokacija ZDA. Tako se prične 3 svetovna. Ena raketa je dovolj.
Edit:
The American strategic bomber "B-52N Stratofortress" of the US Air Force is currently flying past the Kaliningrad region, before making a circle through the Baltic.
Še vedno v zraku. Praktično je zaokrožil okoli Kaliningrada. Mater je kar prestro danes tam okoli.
To je podobno, kot Rusi letijo z bombniki mimo Anglije in nekje nad atlantikom pri Španiji obrnejo ter letijo nazaj.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
gozdar1 ::
Rusi vsakodnevno letijo nad belorusijo z letali dejanko oboroženimi z raketami , ki lahko nosijo tudi jedrsko orožje. Prejšnji teden so jih celo uporabili proti ukrajini. Da ne govorimo o nameščanju iskaendrov kaliningradu in belorusiji. Rusija obtožuje druge za tisto kar sama ves čas dejansko počne.
Rambutan ::
Tukaj pišejo tudi o tem bunkerju z Nato oficirji. Meni se ne zdi preveč verjetno, npr. 80m globok bunker. Tudi preostanek članka ne zgleda preveč verodostojen. Verjetno so kar bučke. Je pa dejstvo da so Rusi uporabili več Kinžalov kot ponavadi.
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/03/09...
IN western Ukraine a Russian Forces Kinzhal struck a bunker extending to 80 metres deep. The RF believes this bunker near Lvov was a NATO strategic command point used to control anti-aircraft systems. It’s still early days but the RF assumes there were up to 300 personnel in the bunker, 40 of which were high ranking foreign specialists, hence we can expect 40 body bags heading west in due course. Unconfirmed in the Nikolaevsk region the RF destroyed four senior militants, and a number of officers and planners.
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/03/09...
IN western Ukraine a Russian Forces Kinzhal struck a bunker extending to 80 metres deep. The RF believes this bunker near Lvov was a NATO strategic command point used to control anti-aircraft systems. It’s still early days but the RF assumes there were up to 300 personnel in the bunker, 40 of which were high ranking foreign specialists, hence we can expect 40 body bags heading west in due course. Unconfirmed in the Nikolaevsk region the RF destroyed four senior militants, and a number of officers and planners.
Pac-Man ::
80m globok bunker lahko uničiš samo z jedrskim orožjem.
In zakaj bi jih skrival v bunkerju v Lvovu? Par km stran je Poljska, fronta pa več 100 km v drugo smer.
In zakaj bi jih skrival v bunkerju v Lvovu? Par km stran je Poljska, fronta pa več 100 km v drugo smer.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
80m globok bunker lahko uničiš samo z jedrskim orožjem.
In zakaj bi jih skrival v bunkerju v Lvovu? Par km stran je Poljska, fronta pa več 100 km v drugo smer.
Sploh zakaj bi šli v bunker generali, sploh v kake sovjetske, za katere imajo Rusi koordinate, greš na avtobus in se peješ malo. Ta raketa premikajoče tarče verjetno ne more zadeti?
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tikitoki ::
Politico's statistics on EU trade with Russia in 2022. Only a minority of the EU countries have decreased their trade with Russia, most have increased.
Slovenija se niti ne trudi.
Kaj je poglavitini uvozni artikel iz rusije? Cena cesa je strmo narasla? Je bilo jasno receno, da bo preusmeritev uvoza dolocenih surovin trajala najmanj do konca 20222. Res neverjetno.
Lonsarg ::
Edina draga stvar ki jo uvažano iz Rusije so energenti. In za energente je EU definitivno dala precej več Rusiji v letu 2022 kot v letu 2021, ker je cena bila par faktorjev višja.
Ampak leto 2022 je bilo leto panike ko se je polnilo skladišča plina, Rusija ga je prodajala ker je rabila za vojno, EU ga je kupovala zaradi panike. 2023 je šele prvo leto ko se ne kupuje več masovno Ruskih energentov, tak da 2023 bilanca bo zelo zanimiva.
Ampak leto 2022 je bilo leto panike ko se je polnilo skladišča plina, Rusija ga je prodajala ker je rabila za vojno, EU ga je kupovala zaradi panike. 2023 je šele prvo leto ko se ne kupuje več masovno Ruskih energentov, tak da 2023 bilanca bo zelo zanimiva.
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mackilla ::
Tukaj pišejo tudi o tem bunkerju z Nato oficirji. Meni se ne zdi preveč verjetno, npr. 80m globok bunker. Tudi preostanek članka ne zgleda preveč verodostojen. Verjetno so kar bučke. Je pa dejstvo da so Rusi uporabili več Kinžalov kot ponavadi.
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2023/03/09...
IN western Ukraine a Russian Forces Kinzhal struck a bunker extending to 80 metres deep. The RF believes this bunker near Lvov was a NATO strategic command point used to control anti-aircraft systems. It’s still early days but the RF assumes there were up to 300 personnel in the bunker, 40 of which were high ranking foreign specialists, hence we can expect 40 body bags heading west in due course. Unconfirmed in the Nikolaevsk region the RF destroyed four senior militants, and a number of officers and planners.
Ker so Rusi uporabili več Kinžalov kot ponavadi po tvoje obstaja možnost,da so Rusi uničili bunker,ki je 80 metrov pod površjem zemlje? Wow.
Comandante ::
80m globok bunker
Rusi lahko vrzejo 50 raket na isto mesto, pa luknja ne bo globoka 80 metrov. Pustimo zdaj, da njihove rakete niso sposobne zadeti istega cilja 50x.
80 metrov globoko v bunkerju prezivis direkten jedrski udar, v kolikor je air burst (bomba na mesto). Ce je surface burst (za unicevanje bunkerjev, silosov), imas slabse moznosti, odvisno od bombe in sestave tal. Ampak se vedno imas moznost prezivetja.
BorutO ::
mackilla ::
Comandante je izjavil:
80m globok bunker
Rusi lahko vrzejo 50 raket na isto mesto, pa luknja ne bo globoka 80 metrov. Pustimo zdaj, da njihove rakete niso sposobne zadeti istega cilja 50x.
80 metrov globoko v bunkerju prezivis direkten jedrski udar, v kolikor je air burst (bomba na mesto). Ce je surface burst (za unicevanje bunkerjev, silosov), imas slabse moznosti, odvisno od bombe in sestave tal. Ampak se vedno imas moznost prezivetja.
Tale prebije 60 metrov pa ima skoraj 2500 kilogramov eksploziva.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-57A...
BorutO ::
Informacije niso pravilne oz. razumevanje prebijanja ... Bomba ima iz velike višine in potiska na koncu težo približno 14 ton, ko se zabije v zemljo. Prodre nekaj metrov, maksimalno 10 oz. odvisno od trdnosti zemlje. Ima zelo močno eksplozijo, zato uniči pod seboj ogromno stvari, zaradi vibracij in popuščanj temeljev. To, da bomba prebije 50m, je čisto nelogično. Prebije lahko tudi tako, da zadenejo direktno pod konstrukcijo, recimo v tunel ali dvigalo, ki prebije nekaj plasti konstrukcije preden eksplodira, v tem primeru lahko doseže 50m ali tudi več. Drugače pa se take bombe odmetava samo v primeru, ko v okolici ni nobenih drugih stavb, ki nimajo nobene veze s ciljem, ker detonacija lahko brez problema resno poškoduje stavbe v okolici. Zraven tega se ob uporabi te bombe odločijo, ko vedo dovolj podatkov kakšna trdnost zemlje je, kje je cilj pod zemljo, kako globoko je in kako je bunker zgrajen. Višje je vržeš na tla, dlje se zarine pod zemljo.
Eno jedrsko bombo so američani nekoč odvrgli na globini približno 2000m pod površjem, pa je ustvarila komaj 100m globok krater, pa je imela 10 kiloton. vseeno veliko več, kot ta bomba.
Eno jedrsko bombo so američani nekoč odvrgli na globini približno 2000m pod površjem, pa je ustvarila komaj 100m globok krater, pa je imela 10 kiloton. vseeno veliko več, kot ta bomba.
Rambutan ::
Suriyakmaps poroča da so Rusi zavzeli skoraj celo Krosnogorivko, severno od Avdiivke. Počasi nastaja še en kotel okrog Avdiivke, Ukrajinci pa končno ne bodo več mogli obstreljevati mesta Donetsk.
https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/...
Current situation at Avdivka front: Russian Army and DPR forces managed to break the defenses of Ukrainian Army and took control over most of Krasnohorivka/Красногорівка town (combing operations continue) and reached the northern outskirts of Kam'yanka/Кам'янка, where clahes with Ukrainian forces are taking place.
The latest Russian successes in Avdivka are related to the arrival of new Russian army units on the front line in February (included new mobilized troops), which has been a major boost to the forces stationed there that have borne the brunt of the operation to try to encircle the city, the Donbas militia.
There already seems to be a clear commitment from the Russian side to take this large Ukrainian stronghold, which would mean a significant reduction in shelling of Donetsk city. However, this operation will not be easy, let alone quick, as its success also depends on an advance from the north of Donetsk airport with the aim of completely encircling Avdivka, an axis of advance that is even more heavily fortified than the northern front, with the exception of the town of Novobakhmutivka, which remains a headache for the pro-Russian side, unable to take the fortification during this first year of war and which would allow the fighting to shift to the rural council of Ilyinovskaya.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewe...
https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/...
Current situation at Avdivka front: Russian Army and DPR forces managed to break the defenses of Ukrainian Army and took control over most of Krasnohorivka/Красногорівка town (combing operations continue) and reached the northern outskirts of Kam'yanka/Кам'янка, where clahes with Ukrainian forces are taking place.
The latest Russian successes in Avdivka are related to the arrival of new Russian army units on the front line in February (included new mobilized troops), which has been a major boost to the forces stationed there that have borne the brunt of the operation to try to encircle the city, the Donbas militia.
There already seems to be a clear commitment from the Russian side to take this large Ukrainian stronghold, which would mean a significant reduction in shelling of Donetsk city. However, this operation will not be easy, let alone quick, as its success also depends on an advance from the north of Donetsk airport with the aim of completely encircling Avdivka, an axis of advance that is even more heavily fortified than the northern front, with the exception of the town of Novobakhmutivka, which remains a headache for the pro-Russian side, unable to take the fortification during this first year of war and which would allow the fighting to shift to the rural council of Ilyinovskaya.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewe...
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gozdar1 ::
Famozni ruski kotli o katerih beremo že drugo leto. ČE rusi ne bi skrivali vojske in skladišč po mestu jih nihče ne bi obstreljaval oz. še bolje kaj rusi sploh počnejo v ukrajinskem mestu?
AvtoR ::
Rusija obtožuje druge za tisto kar sama ves čas dejansko počne
To je ponavadi kazalec kaj rusi dejansko delajo.
Ko trdijo npr, da ukrajinci obstreljujejo civilne tarče, oni to dejansko počno. Ko trdijo da so ukrajinci, evropejci, američani nacisti, to dejansko pomeni da so oni nacisti.
Skratka, ko rusi nekaj trdijo, je takoj jasno da je dejansko stanje ravno obratno od njihove propagande...
Rambutan ::
Famozni ruski kotli o katerih beremo že drugo leto. ČE rusi ne bi skrivali vojske in skladišč po mestu jih nihče ne bi obstreljaval oz. še bolje kaj rusi sploh počnejo v ukrajinskem mestu?
Res je, o kotlih beremo že drugo leto, zgleda da so priljubljena ruska taktika. Jih je bilo že kar nekaj v zadnjem letu. Bolj je zanimivo zakaj se Ukrajinci ne umaknejo pravočasno in raje vztrajajo do zadnjega v izgubljenih položajih.
Mariupol
Severodonetsk/Lysichansk
Bakhmut
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fur80 ::
Famozni ruski kotli o katerih beremo že drugo leto. ČE rusi ne bi skrivali vojske in skladišč po mestu jih nihče ne bi obstreljaval oz. še bolje kaj rusi sploh počnejo v ukrajinskem mestu?
Res je, o kotlih beremo že drugo leto, zgleda da so priljubljena ruska taktika. Jih je bilo že kar nekaj v zadnjem letu. Bolj je zanimivo zakaj se Ukrajinci ne umaknejo pravočasno in raje vztrajajo do zadnjega v izgubljenih položajih.
Mariupol
Severodonetsk/Lysichansk
Bakhmut
Zato ker se Ukrajinci borijo za svojo državo in niso pic** kot Rusi, ki bežijo v znak božje volje.
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Cveto ::
Do ukrajincev nisem imel nikoli kakšnih posebnih nagnjenj (še manj do rusov), a to kar delajo je vredno spoštovanja. Branijo svojo zemljo ne glede na ceno, proti večkrat močnejšemu sovražniku, ki igra precej bolj umazano.
V teh časih postaja "rus" psovka, ukrajince pa se vse pogosteje povezuje z likom heroja (nekdo, ki se junaško upora močnejšemu sovražniku itd...).
Rusi, karkoli jim bo že uspelo, bodo to drago plačali. Glavnega cilja, to je marionetnega režima v Kijevu, itak ne bodo dosegli.
V teh časih postaja "rus" psovka, ukrajince pa se vse pogosteje povezuje z likom heroja (nekdo, ki se junaško upora močnejšemu sovražniku itd...).
Rusi, karkoli jim bo že uspelo, bodo to drago plačali. Glavnega cilja, to je marionetnega režima v Kijevu, itak ne bodo dosegli.
Lesoto ::
Pac-Man ::
to
https://twitter.com/ccaryl/status/16349...
This is correct. Meanwhile, as a friend told me here in Kyiv, “we [Ukrainians] are sending our best people to the front — and losing many of them.”
Russia 'Protecting The Children Of Elites' From The Impact Of The War In Ukraine, Says UK
in to
https://twitter.com/eugene_finkel/statu...
The difference is even more striking when you consider all the WWII mythology Russia uses and abuses. Stalin lost a son in the war. So did Khrushchev. And Mikoyan. And current Russian elites? Can't think of anyone. So much for Putin's war.
https://twitter.com/ccaryl/status/16349...
This is correct. Meanwhile, as a friend told me here in Kyiv, “we [Ukrainians] are sending our best people to the front — and losing many of them.”
Russia 'Protecting The Children Of Elites' From The Impact Of The War In Ukraine, Says UK
in to
https://twitter.com/eugene_finkel/statu...
The difference is even more striking when you consider all the WWII mythology Russia uses and abuses. Stalin lost a son in the war. So did Khrushchev. And Mikoyan. And current Russian elites? Can't think of anyone. So much for Putin's war.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Lesoto ::
mojsterleo ::
Res je, o kotlih beremo že drugo leto, zgleda da so priljubljena ruska taktika. Jih je bilo že kar nekaj v zadnjem letu. Bolj je zanimivo zakaj se Ukrajinci ne umaknejo pravočasno in raje vztrajajo do zadnjega v izgubljenih položajih.
Mariupol ..
Mariupol je bil neke vrste Ukrajinski Stalingrad. Besno napadanje s strani Rusije in neumorna obramba, sta Ruse dovolj zamotila, da so Ukrajinci dobili novo orožje in so lahko preživeli v drugo leto vojne.
Ukrajinci vedo, da umikanje pred Rusi nima nobenega smisla, saj bodo potem obstreljevali še več Ukrajinskega ozemlja in rušili še več mest. To pa je treba ustaviti s pametno obrambo.
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Poldi112 ::
To pametno obrambo so gradili, z USA pomočjo, vse odkar so po neumnosti izgubili Krim. In vse, kar so dosegli je, da so po neumnosti izgubili še Donbas.
Zakaj torej ne bi nadaljevali te odlične strategije?
Zakaj torej ne bi nadaljevali te odlične strategije?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Rambutan ::
Do ukrajincev nisem imel nikoli kakšnih posebnih nagnjenj (še manj do rusov), a to kar delajo je vredno spoštovanja. Branijo svojo zemljo ne glede na ceno, proti večkrat močnejšemu sovražniku, ki igra precej bolj umazano.
V teh časih postaja "rus" psovka, ukrajince pa se vse pogosteje povezuje z likom heroja (nekdo, ki se junaško upora močnejšemu sovražniku itd...).
Rusi, karkoli jim bo že uspelo, bodo to drago plačali. Glavnega cilja, to je marionetnega režima v Kijevu, itak ne bodo dosegli.
Ukrajinski vojaki se hrabro borijo, vsaka jim čast. Vendar to, da se ne umikaš in vztrajaš do zadnjega ni dobra vojaška taktika. Jest sumim da to Zelenski dela v propagandne namene, da priteguje medijsko pozornost in posledično pridobiva vojaško podporo zahoda. Ukrajina vsekakor zmaguje v propagandni vojni, kdo bo dosegel vojaško zmago, je pa drugo vprašanje.
Rusija ima veliko premoč v artileriji, v El Paisu pravijo da je razmerje trenutno celo 10:1 v prid Rusije.
V modernih konfliktih v zadnjem stoletju je največji delež žrtev zahtevala prav artilerija, od 50% do 80%.
Jest mislim, da bodo Rusi dosegli svoj cilj in da bo na žalost Ukrajina tista, ki bo to vojno drago plačala.
https://english.elpais.com/internationa...
Artillery @ Wikipedia
cites the percentage of casualties caused by artillery in various theaters since 1914: in the First World War, 45 percent of Russian casualties and 58 percent of British casualties on the Western Front; in the Second World War, 75 percent of British casualties in North Africa and 51 percent of Soviet casualties (61 percent in 1945) and 70 percent of German casualties on the Eastern Front; and in the Korean War, 60 percent of US casualties, including those inflicted by mortars.[55]
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mackilla ::
Do ukrajincev nisem imel nikoli kakšnih posebnih nagnjenj (še manj do rusov), a to kar delajo je vredno spoštovanja. Branijo svojo zemljo ne glede na ceno, proti večkrat močnejšemu sovražniku, ki igra precej bolj umazano.
V teh časih postaja "rus" psovka, ukrajince pa se vse pogosteje povezuje z likom heroja (nekdo, ki se junaško upora močnejšemu sovražniku itd...).
Rusi, karkoli jim bo že uspelo, bodo to drago plačali. Glavnega cilja, to je marionetnega režima v Kijevu, itak ne bodo dosegli.
Ukrajinski vojaki se hrabro borijo, vsaka jim čast. Vendar to, da se ne umikaš in vztrajaš do zadnjega ni dobra vojaška taktika. Jest sumim da to Zelenski dela v propagandne namene, da priteguje medijsko pozornost in posledično pridobiva vojaško podporo zahoda. Ukrajina vsekakor zmaguje v propagandni vojni, kdo bo dosegel vojaško zmago, je pa drugo vprašanje.
Rusija ima veliko premoč v artileriji, v El Paisu pravijo da je razmerje trenutno celo 10:1 v prid Rusije.
V modernih konfliktih v zadnjem stoletju je največji delež žrtev zahtevala prav artilerija, od 50% do 80%.
Jest mislim, da bodo Rusi dosegli svoj cilj in da bo na žalost Ukrajina tista, ki bo to vojno drago plačala.
https://english.elpais.com/internationa...
Artillery @ Wikipedia
cites the percentage of casualties caused by artillery in various theaters since 1914: in the First World War, 45 percent of Russian casualties and 58 percent of British casualties on the Western Front; in the Second World War, 75 percent of British casualties in North Africa and 51 percent of Soviet casualties (61 percent in 1945) and 70 percent of German casualties on the Eastern Front; and in the Korean War, 60 percent of US casualties, including those inflicted by mortars.[55]
Zakaj si se ustavil pri Koreji? A so se takrat vojne končale?
gozdar1 ::
To pametno obrambo so gradili, z USA pomočjo, vse odkar so po neumnosti izgubili Krim. In vse, kar so dosegli je, da so po neumnosti izgubili še Donbas.
Zakaj torej ne bi nadaljevali te odlične strategije?
Ker so se komaj rešili rusov in ne želijo nazaj pod. Še vedno škoda da nas je tito prikrajšal za zgodovinsko izkušnjo in imamo sedaj kup ljudi, ki na znajo cenit tega.
Poldi112 ::
Nič se niso rešili rusov - rusi so jim podarili nevtralnost. Ker so se ji odpovedali in rinili v NATO, so najprej izgubili Krim, nato še Donbas.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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kow ::
Ce bi ugibal, ima Poldi stockholmski sindrom.
Ce ne razumes, ti bom pomagal. Ugrabitelj, ti ne more "podariti" svobode.
Ce ne razumes, ti bom pomagal. Ugrabitelj, ti ne more "podariti" svobode.
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Poldi112 ::
Kako prisrčno. Nekateri še kar verjamete, da je na svetu par 100 svobodnih držav.
Niste imeli zgodovine v OŠ? Ali pa morda od osamosvojitve naprej predavajo zgolj propagandne puhlice o svobodi in demokraciji?
Niste imeli zgodovine v OŠ? Ali pa morda od osamosvojitve naprej predavajo zgolj propagandne puhlice o svobodi in demokraciji?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
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Lonsarg ::
To je pa res huda naivnost da verjameš da je Putin vzel Krim ker niso hotli bit nevtralni lol. Putin se nikoli ne bi sprijaznil z nevtralnim Krimom, to je jasno iz aviona.
Po zavzetju Krima in Ruskih vojaških akcijah v Donbasu leta 2014 pa je zadeva bila itak že predaleč, sovraštvo je bilo na obeh straneh, vojna se je začela, neke realne poti nazaj več ni bilo. Le še zamrznjen konflik vs eskalacija je bila možna, zgodila se je eskalacija.
Po zavzetju Krima in Ruskih vojaških akcijah v Donbasu leta 2014 pa je zadeva bila itak že predaleč, sovraštvo je bilo na obeh straneh, vojna se je začela, neke realne poti nazaj več ni bilo. Le še zamrznjen konflik vs eskalacija je bila možna, zgodila se je eskalacija.
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