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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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Chalky ::
Dejstvo je da bo Rusija tule gospodarsko in vojaško poražena. Drugo dejstvo pa je tudi to da bodo ZDA na dolgi rok prav tako nastradale in to predvsem zaradi fiat valute. Nekaj je jasno, ni države na svetu ki bi lahko z manj kot 5% svetovnega prebivalstva držala v šahu ostalih 95%. Problem trenutnega ameriškega sistema je da če hoče da sistem funkcionirati mora le ta dominirati. Vam bom dal en primer, ni dovolj samo to da premagajo Rusijo, potrebno bo premagati tudi Kitajsko, in morda jim uspe vendar je potem tu Indija. Indija je v podobnem položaju kot so bile ZDA med prvo svetovno vojno. Pametno čakajo iz ozadja. Indija ni v sporu z ZDA vendar ker mora biti dolar glavna valuta to pomeni da je vsaka večja država avtomatsko v napoto temu sistemu ki v drugačnih okolicah ne more funkcionirati. Trenutni ameriški sistem je odličen za unipolarni svet in fiat valuta deluje v takšnem okolju. V multipolarnem svetu pa trenutni ameriški sistem enostavno ne more dominirati. Ne pravim da si želim propad ZDA, ker vem kaj to pomeni za Zahod, ampak je dejstvo da je samo vprašanje časa. Jaz zato tole vojno v Ukrajini vidim kot nekaj kratkoročnega. To bo kratkoročna zmaga ZDA vendar bodo na dolgi rok tudi oni izgubili. Tisti ki poznate vse skupaj veste da se zadaj odvija precej večja vojna med ZDA in Kitajsko.
ZDA bi morale tako premagati (karkoli že to pomeni), Kitajsko, Indijo in potem čez čas tudi Afriški kontinent (ki bo nekega dne stopil skupaj). Gadafi je probal z enotno Afriško valuto pa vemo kako se je vse skupaj končalo. Afrika bo imela leta 2050 3 milijarde ljudi in če se povežejo in ustvarijo svoj NATO in svoj EU ter enotno valuto to pomeni konec dolarja.
In to je problem ZDA, ni važno koliko vojaških baz imajo po svetu, ni važno koliko namenijo za obrambo, dejstvo je da je nemogoče dominirati celoten svet, in to bo samo še težje za ZDA. Problem je ker morajo dominirati, če ne dominirajo to pomeni konec dolarja.
ZDA bi morale tako premagati (karkoli že to pomeni), Kitajsko, Indijo in potem čez čas tudi Afriški kontinent (ki bo nekega dne stopil skupaj). Gadafi je probal z enotno Afriško valuto pa vemo kako se je vse skupaj končalo. Afrika bo imela leta 2050 3 milijarde ljudi in če se povežejo in ustvarijo svoj NATO in svoj EU ter enotno valuto to pomeni konec dolarja.
In to je problem ZDA, ni važno koliko vojaških baz imajo po svetu, ni važno koliko namenijo za obrambo, dejstvo je da je nemogoče dominirati celoten svet, in to bo samo še težje za ZDA. Problem je ker morajo dominirati, če ne dominirajo to pomeni konec dolarja.
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Pac-Man ::
Skomentira še Putinov govor kak dan pred koncertom
Russia's 1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY Concert was not great
Exactly 1 year ago Russia began it's "special military operation" in Ukraine. Of course, such a big date as the 1 year anniversary had to be celebrated by the Russian propaganda in one way or the other. And Z propaganda truly outdid itself: with Putin giving a huge address to the country and also a big "patriotic" Z concert in Moscow. Complete with corny sellout artists such as SHAMAN and other creators of Russian propaganda music, as well as patriotic hot takes on history of Russia, the Soviet Union and the world. What was the Russian propaganda concert all about and what is Russia like at 1 year into full-on conflict? Let's talk about it. Smash like and subscribe for more thx xoxo
Russia's 1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY Concert was not great
Exactly 1 year ago Russia began it's "special military operation" in Ukraine. Of course, such a big date as the 1 year anniversary had to be celebrated by the Russian propaganda in one way or the other. And Z propaganda truly outdid itself: with Putin giving a huge address to the country and also a big "patriotic" Z concert in Moscow. Complete with corny sellout artists such as SHAMAN and other creators of Russian propaganda music, as well as patriotic hot takes on history of Russia, the Soviet Union and the world. What was the Russian propaganda concert all about and what is Russia like at 1 year into full-on conflict? Let's talk about it. Smash like and subscribe for more thx xoxo
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
nejcek74 ::
Nekaj je jasno, ni države na svetu ki bi lahko z manj kot 5% svetovnega prebivalstva držala v šahu ostalih 95%.
Čisto faktualno, je tvoja trditev napačna, ker je Velika Britanija kar dolgo časa počela točno to. Ampak k sreči je teh časov konec in nič ne kaže na možnost, da se vrnejo. So pa te debate sicer v tej temi malo brezzvezne. Multipolarni svet je dejstvo ze več kot 30 let. Ravno tako, najprej vzpon Azije, potem pa Afrike. V Aziji ne gre samo za Kitajsko in Indijo ter običajnega bolnika Pakistan, imaš številne druge države, ki so v vzponu: recimo v JV Aziji imaš še Indonezijo, Filipine, Vietnam, ki imajo skupaj skoraj pol miljarde ljudi, pozitivno rast gospodarstva, ter zmerno rast populacije. Filipini so bili kar nekaj časa zelo močna gospodarska regionalna sila, preden jih je prehitela Kitajska. Mulitpolarnost sploh ni vprašanje, ravno tako ni nekaj novega. Vprašanje je, kakšna bo dinamika odnosov med državami in koliko bo nekdo imel vpliva.
Chalky ::
@nejcek74
Nekaj izjemno pomembnega si pozabil. Britanija je to lahko počela ker je bila tehnološka razlika med Britanijo in Indijo in ostalimi državami (minus Evropske) gromozanska. V Britaniji je bila industrijska revolucija medtem ko so na Kitajskem nabirali riž z golimi pestmi. Industrijska revolucija je britanskemu imperiju omogočila da so lahko okupirali pol sveta. Danes živimo v globalnem svetu kjer so razlike precej manjše in niti približno tako velike kot v času industrijske revolucije. Tu imaš po mojem mnenju narobe. Še v Siriji in Jemnu imaš ljudi s telefoni in kamerami. Takrat so bile razlike tako velike da je vse skupaj enostavno neprimerljivo. To je edini razlog da je lahko Velika Britanija dominirala. Danes so tehnološke razlike med ZDA in Kitajsko res majhne v primerjavi s tistim obdobjem jih praktično ni.
Države ki si jih omenil zgoraj niso tako pomembne ker se z ZDA ne morejo kosati. Edini pravi tekmeci ZDA so Kitajska, Indija ter Afriški kontinent kot celota. Morda nekega dne celo Nigerija ki bo imela recimo leta 2100 skoraj 800 milijonov ljudi.
Vem da multipolarnost ni vprašanje, to tudi pravim. Problem je ker dolar ne more funkcionirati v multipolarnem svetu. In to je problem za ZDA, ki ne bodo mogle več tiskati denarja in vsako leto furati Trilijonske primanjkljaje, kar avtomatsko pomeni da v vojsko ne bodo mogli več vlagati takšne vsote, kar pomeni da bo čez čas njihova vojska precej šibkejša. To so dejstva.
Nekaj izjemno pomembnega si pozabil. Britanija je to lahko počela ker je bila tehnološka razlika med Britanijo in Indijo in ostalimi državami (minus Evropske) gromozanska. V Britaniji je bila industrijska revolucija medtem ko so na Kitajskem nabirali riž z golimi pestmi. Industrijska revolucija je britanskemu imperiju omogočila da so lahko okupirali pol sveta. Danes živimo v globalnem svetu kjer so razlike precej manjše in niti približno tako velike kot v času industrijske revolucije. Tu imaš po mojem mnenju narobe. Še v Siriji in Jemnu imaš ljudi s telefoni in kamerami. Takrat so bile razlike tako velike da je vse skupaj enostavno neprimerljivo. To je edini razlog da je lahko Velika Britanija dominirala. Danes so tehnološke razlike med ZDA in Kitajsko res majhne v primerjavi s tistim obdobjem jih praktično ni.
Države ki si jih omenil zgoraj niso tako pomembne ker se z ZDA ne morejo kosati. Edini pravi tekmeci ZDA so Kitajska, Indija ter Afriški kontinent kot celota. Morda nekega dne celo Nigerija ki bo imela recimo leta 2100 skoraj 800 milijonov ljudi.
Vem da multipolarnost ni vprašanje, to tudi pravim. Problem je ker dolar ne more funkcionirati v multipolarnem svetu. In to je problem za ZDA, ki ne bodo mogle več tiskati denarja in vsako leto furati Trilijonske primanjkljaje, kar avtomatsko pomeni da v vojsko ne bodo mogli več vlagati takšne vsote, kar pomeni da bo čez čas njihova vojska precej šibkejša. To so dejstva.
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blackbfm ::
Afrika bo imela leta 2050 3 milijarde ljudi in če se povežejo in ustvarijo svoj NATO in svoj EU ter enotno valuto to pomeni konec dolarja.
nevem najprej morajo not prinest 50+ let razvoja.. al kako si predstavljate da bodo v "multipolarnem" svetu bili bitke z zahodno tehnologijo proti zahodu kot to mislijo počet putinisti, mimogrede naredijo še selfie na svojem.. wait for it.. najnovejšem iphonu
Chalky ::
Afrika bo imela leta 2050 3 milijarde ljudi in če se povežejo in ustvarijo svoj NATO in svoj EU ter enotno valuto to pomeni konec dolarja.
nevem najprej morajo not prinest 50+ let razvoja.. al kako si predstavljate da bodo v "multipolarnem" svetu bili bitke z zahodno tehnologijo proti zahodu kot to mislijo počet putinisti, mimogrede naredijo še selfie na svojem.. wait for it.. najnovejšem iphonu
Afrika bo najmočnejši kontinent in najpomembnejši kontinent od leta 2100 naprej. Mi tega ne bodo doživeli vendar če malce pomisliš, Afriški kontinent ima resnično vse kar potrebuje, toliko dobrin kot ga ima ta kontinent ga nima nihče drug. Po trenutnih projekcijah bi lahko imeli tudi do 5 milijard ljudi. Ne pravim da bo lahko vendar Afrika bo nekega dne center sveta o tem sploh ne dvomim. Enako so govorili za Kitajsko še 40 let nazaj so se jim smejali, pa poglej danes panika na Zahodu. Enako se zdaj dogaja z Indijo ki postaja čez dalje močnejša. Moraš vedeti da so omenjene države začele iz čiste ničle in pri teh primerih gre lahko samo navzgor medtem ko je v Evropi ravno obratno, kot kaže smo dosegli svoj vrh. Gospodarske rasti praktično ni, gospodarska rast Evropskega kontinenta je leta 2021 znašala 0.1%. Danes se Afriki vsi posmehujejo, nekoč bo ta kontinent zavladal. Samo poglej si zgodovino Egipta pa je zgolj ena država od 54 tih. Indija bo imela tu veliko prednost saj ima precej mlado prebivalstvo in je njihova država precej blizu Afriškemu kontinentu. Indija bo imela leta 2070 okoli 1.7 milijarde ljudi in to bo njihov vrh. Trgovina med Indijo in Afriko bo nekaj posebnega.
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BorutO ::
Dejstvo je da bo Rusija tule gospodarsko in vojaško poražena. Drugo dejstvo pa je tudi to da bodo ZDA na dolgi rok prav tako nastradale in to predvsem zaradi fiat valute. Nekaj je jasno, ni države na svetu ki bi lahko z manj kot 5% svetovnega prebivalstva držala v šahu ostalih 95%. Problem trenutnega ameriškega sistema je da če hoče da sistem funkcionirati mora le ta dominirati. Vam bom dal en primer, ni dovolj samo to da premagajo Rusijo, potrebno bo premagati tudi Kitajsko, in morda jim uspe vendar je potem tu Indija. Indija je v podobnem položaju kot so bile ZDA med prvo svetovno vojno. Pametno čakajo iz ozadja. Indija ni v sporu z ZDA vendar ker mora biti dolar glavna valuta to pomeni da je vsaka večja država avtomatsko v napoto temu sistemu ki v drugačnih okolicah ne more funkcionirati. Trenutni ameriški sistem je odličen za unipolarni svet in fiat valuta deluje v takšnem okolju. V multipolarnem svetu pa trenutni ameriški sistem enostavno ne more dominirati. Ne pravim da si želim propad ZDA, ker vem kaj to pomeni za Zahod, ampak je dejstvo da je samo vprašanje časa. Jaz zato tole vojno v Ukrajini vidim kot nekaj kratkoročnega. To bo kratkoročna zmaga ZDA vendar bodo na dolgi rok tudi oni izgubili. Tisti ki poznate vse skupaj veste da se zadaj odvija precej večja vojna med ZDA in Kitajsko.
ZDA bi morale tako premagati (karkoli že to pomeni), Kitajsko, Indijo in potem čez čas tudi Afriški kontinent (ki bo nekega dne stopil skupaj). Gadafi je probal z enotno Afriško valuto pa vemo kako se je vse skupaj končalo. Afrika bo imela leta 2050 3 milijarde ljudi in če se povežejo in ustvarijo svoj NATO in svoj EU ter enotno valuto to pomeni konec dolarja.
In to je problem ZDA, ni važno koliko vojaških baz imajo po svetu, ni važno koliko namenijo za obrambo, dejstvo je da je nemogoče dominirati celoten svet, in to bo samo še težje za ZDA. Problem je ker morajo dominirati, če ne dominirajo to pomeni konec dolarja.
Kaj pa potem EUR in GBP? Glede na zadnje zadnjega pol leta, USD lepo izgublja proti EUR, to jih naj skrbi glede fiata, ne pa kitajski CNY oz. jen ali pa indijski INR oz. rupij.
Glede fiata bolj američane skrbi EUR kot pa katera koli druga valuta. Ampak dokler smo odlični zavezniki z Američani, bomo imeli mir, in bo lahko EUR-usd na koncu v razmerju 1:2.
Pac-Man ::
Prva minuta. Ukrajina je samo na poti do resničnih ciljev.
Peter Zeihan - I Am Shocked Things Are Getting Much Uglier For Russia
Peter Zeihan - I Am Shocked Things Are Getting Much Uglier For Russia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Chalky ::
@BorutO
EUR ne more nadomestiti Dolarja kot glavne svetovne valute. Če se ne motim se z Evri trguje samo v 20%. Za Britansko valuto pa ni potrebno izgubljati časa. So povsem nepomembni.
Še nekaj sem pozabil povedati. Ne vem kaj lahko prinese digitalna valuta. To je velika uganka. Kaj bi se zgodilo če bi ZDA prišle ven s kakšno digitalno valuto ki bi povezala ostale države. Ne vem kako bi to zgledalo in kaj bi to pomenilo. Ampak da bi imele ZDA skupaj z zavezniki eno digitalno valuto. To bi lahko bila prave protiutež ostalim. Ne vem kako bi to sploh zgledalo oziroma če je to sploh izvedljivo da bi "demokratični svet" imel svojo enotno valuto, Kaj pa vem?
EUR ne more nadomestiti Dolarja kot glavne svetovne valute. Če se ne motim se z Evri trguje samo v 20%. Za Britansko valuto pa ni potrebno izgubljati časa. So povsem nepomembni.
Še nekaj sem pozabil povedati. Ne vem kaj lahko prinese digitalna valuta. To je velika uganka. Kaj bi se zgodilo če bi ZDA prišle ven s kakšno digitalno valuto ki bi povezala ostale države. Ne vem kako bi to zgledalo in kaj bi to pomenilo. Ampak da bi imele ZDA skupaj z zavezniki eno digitalno valuto. To bi lahko bila prave protiutež ostalim. Ne vem kako bi to sploh zgledalo oziroma če je to sploh izvedljivo da bi "demokratični svet" imel svojo enotno valuto, Kaj pa vem?
BorutO ::
Kako hudo je 2 svetovni velesili ...
Naj še dam samo zanimivo primerjavo ... Rusija je po moči 2. svetovna velesila (bila pred vojno v Ukrajini), Ukrajina pa 15. In potem Ukrajinci šolajo Ruse kot za šalo.
Naj še dam samo zanimivo primerjavo ... Rusija je po moči 2. svetovna velesila (bila pred vojno v Ukrajini), Ukrajina pa 15. In potem Ukrajinci šolajo Ruse kot za šalo.
Rambutan ::
Še en opis ameriškega prostovoljca o stanju v Bakhmutu. Rusi pravijo da so Ukrajinci profesionalne vojake že umaknili iz Bakhmuta, ostali so samo mobilizirani.
https://www.newsweek.com/bakhmut-life-e...
Offenbecker, who is fighting in Ukraine's International Legion comprised of foreign soldiers, told ABC News that when a Ukrainian soldier fights on the frontlines in Bakhmut, their life expectancy is only around four hours.
"It's been pretty bad on the ground," he said. "A lot of casualties. The life expectancy is around four hours on the frontline."
Offenbecker said Bakhmut has been called "the meat grinder" because of the macabre scenes, and he described the fighting as "chaotic".
Fighting has increased in Bakhmut as Russia directed its forces there since last summer to seize the city. But like many other instances during the war, Russia has been met with fierce resistance from Ukrainian troops.
However, Offenbecker isn't sure how long Ukrainian troops could continue to hold the city. He told ABC News that he expected the much-anticipated Russian offensive had already begun, placing Bakhmut as its focus.
Reports from both sides have claimed harsh casualties. Despite reports that Russia is struggling in the war with dwindling equipment and untrained troops, Offenbecker said attacks from Russians have been "nonstop" in Bakhmut, with artillery coming "all day and night".
https://www.newsweek.com/bakhmut-life-e...
Offenbecker, who is fighting in Ukraine's International Legion comprised of foreign soldiers, told ABC News that when a Ukrainian soldier fights on the frontlines in Bakhmut, their life expectancy is only around four hours.
"It's been pretty bad on the ground," he said. "A lot of casualties. The life expectancy is around four hours on the frontline."
Offenbecker said Bakhmut has been called "the meat grinder" because of the macabre scenes, and he described the fighting as "chaotic".
Fighting has increased in Bakhmut as Russia directed its forces there since last summer to seize the city. But like many other instances during the war, Russia has been met with fierce resistance from Ukrainian troops.
However, Offenbecker isn't sure how long Ukrainian troops could continue to hold the city. He told ABC News that he expected the much-anticipated Russian offensive had already begun, placing Bakhmut as its focus.
Reports from both sides have claimed harsh casualties. Despite reports that Russia is struggling in the war with dwindling equipment and untrained troops, Offenbecker said attacks from Russians have been "nonstop" in Bakhmut, with artillery coming "all day and night".
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Kebo ::
Vsake 4 ure jih vse pobijejo in to že pol leta pa Bakhmut še vedno ni ruski. Hahahaha eni ste pa res za vice.
Rambutan ::
Vsake 4 ure jih vse pobijejo in to že pol leta pa Bakhmut še vedno ni ruski. Hahahaha eni ste pa res za vice.
Tako zgleda situacija v Bakhmutu zdaj. Rusi imajo premoč v artileriji, Zelensky pa še zmeraj pošilja noter vojake. Zelo žalostno za Ukrajino, ogromne izgube imajo.
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Kebo ::
Realno če pade pač pade, itak je v vsem skupaj precej nepomembno mesto. Je vsaj precej orkov pocrkalo za osvojitev tega cilja. Krematorsk in Sloviansk sta 10x večje utrdbe in rusi lahko pošljejo milijon mobikov nanju, pa jih ne osvojita. Mi je pa zanimivo, da imaš informacije o tem kam Ukrajina pošilja svoje vojake in v kakšnem številu.
Edit: Pa s te slike se ne vidi, da je praktično cela južna stran utrjena in tam nimajo rusi praktično nobenega napredka. Tudi ne poizkušajo tam s prodorom, tako da ofenziva je samo iz severa ter vzhoda.
Edit: Pa s te slike se ne vidi, da je praktično cela južna stran utrjena in tam nimajo rusi praktično nobenega napredka. Tudi ne poizkušajo tam s prodorom, tako da ofenziva je samo iz severa ter vzhoda.
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Rambutan ::
Kramatorsk in Sloviansk ležita v dolini, ko bodo Rusi zavzeli vzpetine vzhodno od njiju, bo sledilo par mesecev obstreljevanja z artilerijo. Spet bo neugodna situacija za Ukrajince. Iz juga pa danes napadajo Ivanovske, bomo videli rezultate kmalu. Če te zanimajo bolj podrobne informacije dobiš na ruskih telegram kanalih. Ukrajinci ne radi poročajo o svojih porazih
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Matejjjjj ::
Izpadlo bo, da je res tole šele začetek ofenzive. pol milijona vojakov še ni nastopilo na bojišču. Pravijo, da je Liman še vedno glavna smer napada. tudi Vuhledar bo padel na enak način, artiljerija zdrobi mesto v prah. Isti način bojevanja kot v 2.sv. Ukrajina bo v kratkem prosila za pogajanja, ne vem pa, če bo Putin za. Ne verjamem, da so Ukrajinci še sposobni obranit državo kot tako, Rusija je prevelika. Če pa kitajci Rusom dostavijo opremo, potem pa ne vem, kako bo s celo V Evropo.
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Lesoto ::
Tako zgleda situacija v Bakhmutu zdaj. Rusi imajo premoč v artileriji, Zelensky pa še zmeraj pošilja noter vojake.
Že spet lažeš
Pravda.com.ua Interview: Ukrainian colonel Oleh Faydyuk
https://wartranslated.com/pravda-com-ua...
(I): What is the Ukrainian and Russian artillery ratio in the Bakhmut sector?
(O): As of now, it is one-to-one.
Zelo žalostno za Ukrajino, ogromne izgube imajo.
lol, baš tebe brigajo ukrajinske izgube
Izpadlo bo, da je res tole šele začetek ofenzive. pol milijona vojakov še ni nastopilo na bojišču.
Pol miljona vojakov NE OBSTAJA.
Pravijo, da je Liman še vedno glavna smer napada.
Se je že ustavilo en teden nazaj.
tudi Vuhledar bo padel na enak način, artiljerija zdrobi mesto v prah.
Zakaj pa potem dnevno jurišajo Rusi. Samo čakali bi, ane.
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Pac-Man ::
FPV se učijo letet tudi na simulatorjih, video.
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1629...
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1629...
Video of Ukrainian FPV loitering munition strikes from the summer and a training program.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status...
1/16 🧵 Last Day of Peace: the final 24 hours before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
This is a thread with the timeline of main events that occurred in the last 24 hours before Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Provided in local time - Eastern European Time (EET).
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4:35pm - the US has informed President Zelensky that Russia is preparing to launch an invasion within the next 48 hours;
5:54pm - Ukrainian government institutions hit by massive cyber-attack;
7:04pm - Two Russian military convoys spotted heading towards Donetsk;
8:00pm - The US assesses Russia has 100% of its aviation & maritime assets needed for the invasion in place - 80% of the ground forces around Ukraine deployed in forward positions;
9:40pm - Verkhovna Rada approves the introduction of state of emergency across Ukraine.
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February 24, 2022:
00:10am - Ukraine closes the airports of Kharkiv, Dnipro, Zaporizhzhia; runways blocked by trailers to deny possibility of enemy aircraft landing.
00:20am - Ukraine requests a UN Security Council meeting;
00:45am - President Zelensky releases a speech in which he says that he attempted to call Putin but didn't receive an answer; he also appeals to the Russians to stop the war.
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4:00am - US RQ-4 Global Hawk UAV concludes its final reconnaissance mission over Ukraine;
4:00am - Russian Tupolev Tu-160 and Tu-95 strategic bombers armed with Kh-101 cruise missiles are in the air; heavy radio traffic monitored on 8131kHz USB.
4:05am - Kalanchak checkpoint located on the border of Ukraine's Kherson Oblast and Crimea is attacked by Russian spetsnaz;
4:15am - Russian military leaders went to their command center, and cyberattacks against Ukraine are underway, according to a US official.
4:15am - Ukrainian airspace has been closed;
4:30am - UN Security Council meeting requested by Ukraine begins in New York. In a desperate appeal, UN Secretary-General António Guterres asks Putin to bring troops back to Russia
4:48am - Russian President Putin starts his televised address and announces the beginning of the "special military operation" in Ukraine.
4:50am - Ukraine's ambassador to the UN declares that it's too late to speak about de-escalation, as Putin "declared war."
5:00am - Explosions reported in major Ukrainian cities as the Russian invasion begins.
5:00am - Ukraine's ambassador to the UN Sergiy Kyslytsya tolds his Russian counterpart Vasily Nebenzya: "There is no purgatory for war criminals. They go straight to hell"
1/16 🧵 Last Day of Peace: the final 24 hours before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
This is a thread with the timeline of main events that occurred in the last 24 hours before Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Provided in local time - Eastern European Time (EET).
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4:35pm - the US has informed President Zelensky that Russia is preparing to launch an invasion within the next 48 hours;
5:54pm - Ukrainian government institutions hit by massive cyber-attack;
7:04pm - Two Russian military convoys spotted heading towards Donetsk;
8:00pm - The US assesses Russia has 100% of its aviation & maritime assets needed for the invasion in place - 80% of the ground forces around Ukraine deployed in forward positions;
9:40pm - Verkhovna Rada approves the introduction of state of emergency across Ukraine.
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February 24, 2022:
00:10am - Ukraine closes the airports of Kharkiv, Dnipro, Zaporizhzhia; runways blocked by trailers to deny possibility of enemy aircraft landing.
00:20am - Ukraine requests a UN Security Council meeting;
00:45am - President Zelensky releases a speech in which he says that he attempted to call Putin but didn't receive an answer; he also appeals to the Russians to stop the war.
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4:00am - US RQ-4 Global Hawk UAV concludes its final reconnaissance mission over Ukraine;
4:00am - Russian Tupolev Tu-160 and Tu-95 strategic bombers armed with Kh-101 cruise missiles are in the air; heavy radio traffic monitored on 8131kHz USB.
4:05am - Kalanchak checkpoint located on the border of Ukraine's Kherson Oblast and Crimea is attacked by Russian spetsnaz;
4:15am - Ukrainian airspace has been closed;
4:30am - UN Security Council meeting requested by Ukraine begins in New York. In a desperate appeal, UN Secretary-General António Guterres asks Putin to bring troops back to Russia
4:48am - Russian President Putin starts his televised address and announces the beginning of the "special military operation" in Ukraine.
4:50am - Ukraine's ambassador to the UN declares that it's too late to speak about de-escalation, as Putin "declared war."
5:00am - Explosions reported in major Ukrainian cities as the Russian invasion begins.
5:00am - Ukraine's ambassador to the UN Sergiy Kyslytsya tolds his Russian counterpart Vasily Nebenzya: "There is no purgatory for war criminals. They go straight to hell"
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Lesoto ::
Girkin je zopet naložil nekaj težkih resnic.
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/statu...
Igor Girkin says Russia needs a Chinese "lend-lease" if it's to continue fighting in Ukraine "with any level of success". He complains that Russian generals led by the "cretin" Gerasimov are burning through armour at a rate that Russian defence plants can't withstand
Mimogrede, ne Gerasimova ne Surovikina ni bilo na Putinov govor ob obletnici napada.
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/statu...
Igor Girkin says Russia needs a Chinese "lend-lease" if it's to continue fighting in Ukraine "with any level of success". He complains that Russian generals led by the "cretin" Gerasimov are burning through armour at a rate that Russian defence plants can't withstand
Mimogrede, ne Gerasimova ne Surovikina ni bilo na Putinov govor ob obletnici napada.
Zgodovina sprememb…
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mackilla ::
Girkin je zopet naložil nekaj težkih resnic.
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/statu...
Igor Girkin says Russia needs a Chinese "lend-lease" if it's to continue fighting in Ukraine "with any level of success". He complains that Russian generals led by the "cretin" Gerasimov are burning through armour at a rate that Russian defence plants can't withstand
Mimogrede, ne Gerasimova ne Surovikina ni bilo na Putinov govor ob obletnici napada.
To so pa popolnoma drugi podatki kot jih nekateri lepijo tule gor
A se kažejo razpoke v rusofilski narativi kako zmagujejo v vojni? Pac-Man ::
Twitr.
https://twitter.com/Buggy__Bugler/statu...
https://hrwf.eu/russia-sexual-abuse-of-...
https://regnum.ru/news/accidents/341715...
https://twitter.com/Buggy__Bugler/statu...
The Russian priest Spiridonov (Yuri Abramov), who was sentenced to 18 years for molesting 53 Russian boys, is now fighting against the Ukrainians. Here they are - real Russian heroes - pedophiles, sadists and murderers!
https://hrwf.eu/russia-sexual-abuse-of-...
https://regnum.ru/news/accidents/341715...
Hieromonk Spiridon (in the world - Yuri Abramov ), who headed the church of the Holy Prophet Elijah in the village of Amurzet, Oktyabrsky district of the Jewish autonomy, was sentenced for molesting boys. correspondent was told on The priest was given 18 years in prison in a strict regime colony, his accomplice bell ringer - 12 years, a REGNUM November 8 in the press service of the regional prosecutor's office.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/statu...
🧵 1/16
Russian forces are revamping their assault tactics after experiencing failures with their current structure. The Battalion Tactical Groups (BTGs) are getting replaced with a new unit called the "Assault Unit" or "Assault Detachment", which I will discuss in this thread.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/statu...
🧵 1/16
Russian forces are revamping their assault tactics after experiencing failures with their current structure. The Battalion Tactical Groups (BTGs) are getting replaced with a new unit called the "Assault Unit" or "Assault Detachment", which I will discuss in this thread.
Prilagajajo se temu, da nimajo več dovolj oklepnikov (tankov, APCjev..). Še artilerijskega suport je silno malo. Za tole rabiš ali samomorilce ali pa zelo strenirane izkušene vojake.
mtosev ::
Že je leto dni od napada Rusije na Ukrajino in ne izgleda, da bodo Ukrajinci popustili. Še naprej podpiram pošiljanje orožja, da se branijo.
Si se pripravljen tudi prijeti za denarnico?
Moralna podpora ne pomeni nič.
Sem jim doniral 100€, če te zanima.
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Pac-Man ::
Down the rabbit hole, vsaj en otrok v šovu ima še žive starše. Glavni nastopajoči so ubili mamo.
https://twitter.com/PowerNaShary/status...
https://twitter.com/Igor_from_Kyiv_/sta...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/...
https://twitter.com/PowerNaShary/status...
The journalists identified the children who were brought to the Sabbath at Luzhniki and forced to thank the killers of their parents for "saving". Their family hid in the administrative buildings of Mariupol, their mother was killed by shrapnel, then they were taken to Russia. There are just no swear words.
https://twitter.com/Igor_from_Kyiv_/sta...
No, my informants wrote to me that the girl is really from Mariupol. And the occupiers of Russia killed her mother... her words on stage and the fact that she said "I forgot the words" only proves that these fascists use children for their propagandaIn the photo, her mother Olga Naumenko and children. Anya is on the right. At the center of the picture is the mayor of Mariupol Vadim Boychenko. (Photo 2021)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/...
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The star of this orgy of Russian patriotism was Anna Naumenko, a 15-year-old with black hair, who was pushed on to the stage of Moscow’s Luzhniki stadium to thank a soldier nicknamed “Yuri Gagarin” for rescuing her:
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As the Ukrainian children crowded round to hug the soldier, their former neighbours from Mariupol felt shock and disgust. These were children they had huddled with in basements less than a year earlier, sheltering from Russian bombs and suffering from hunger and cold as Moscow launched a bloody onslaught that destroyed the city. “The abomination is that these are not actors,” wrote one. “They are really children from Mariupol.”
Pointing out another child, he added: “That teenager in a black hat and grey jacket hugging the occupier is Kostya, my neighbour. We lived in the same building, and spent the first month of the war in the same shelter.”
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“I assume that they were invited to Moscow for this show. Perhaps for a monetary reward or motivated otherwise,” he said. “I can’t call Kostya’s parents pro-Russian because before the full-scale war, they never expressed a concrete opinion.”
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“Kostya’s mom and dad were good people,” said Shrycheva, who remembered that Kristina, the mother, worked in a store in their neighbourhood. “We shared food with them, so did they. Kostya is a very kind and good boy.”
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Social media profiles for Kostya’s family show they still live in Mariupol. His father, Igor, and mother, Kristina, did not reply to a request for comment. But their stories, and others, have now also been confirmed by Russian and Ukrainian media, with bleak stories of what the children brought to the media circus in Moscow had been through.
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Anna was also confirmed to be from Mariupol by Informator, a Ukrainian news website. “Her mother, blogger Olga Naumenko, is known in the city,” the site wrote. According to the website, Olga was killed in the war. iStories, a Russian news website, later confirmed that the Naumenko family had sheltered in the House of Culture and then the Left Bank administration building, as had Kostya’s family.
In April, Olga was killed by shrapnel from an explosion when she “ran out for cigarettes”, an eyewitness said. She was buried in the grounds of a hospital. A social media post at the time said she had left behind three children: “Anya, Karolina and Danya.” While Anna thanked “Yuri Gagarin” for saving her and her sister, she made no mention of her brother.
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Down the rabbit hole, vsaj en otrok v šovu ima še žive starše. Glavni nastopajoči so ubili mamo.
Možen tvitr punce, aktiven je bil samo par mesecev l. 2015. Je malo podobna, iz Ukrajine, ampak verjetno par let prestara. 5. razred v Ukrajini je 10/11 let.
Education in Ukraine @ Wikipedia
januar 2015:
https://twitter.com/Anya_Naumenko_/stat...
I'm in 5th grade
marec 2015:
https://twitter.com/Anya_Naumenko_/stat...
I love Ukraine!!!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
scythe ::
Ukrajinci so se odločili, da bodo ruse naučili plavati pri Bakhmutu, preden zapustijo mesto.
It is reported that the dam on the Severnaya Stavka on the outskirts of the city of Bakhmut has been blown up - SMI
Northern Headquarters dam blown up near Bakhmut - Russian media
https://twitter.com/am_misfit/status/16...
It is reported that the dam on the Severnaya Stavka on the outskirts of the city of Bakhmut has been blown up - SMI
Northern Headquarters dam blown up near Bakhmut - Russian media
https://twitter.com/am_misfit/status/16...
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Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: scythe ()
BorutO ::
Kitajska se ne bo nikoli neposredno vmešala v vojno. Ostali bodo "nevtralni" v tej vojni. So zavezniki Rusov, ampak vojaško jim ne bodo pomagali, ker potem bodo Kitajci tanko piskali glede gospodarstva. Kitajci so zelo odvisni od tujega trga, oz. od izvoza in uvoza, če se to ustavi, tako kot so naredili Rusom, Kitajci klecnejo. Kitajska se tu ne bo igrala z gospodarstvom. Po mojem mnenju bodo ostali nevtralni, le da bodo na strani Rusije, vojaško pa jim ne bodo pomagali nikoli, če tudi vejo, da so trn v peti Zahodu. Najnujneše surovine in zrnja Kitajci dobivajo večinoma od teh držav: ZDA, Kanada, Avstralija, Rusija in od nekaterih EU držav. Drugače pa sploh ni nekaj preveč treba poudarjati, da Kitajci največ surovin in izdelkov izvozijo ravno v Zahodni svet.
Evo, kaj so rusi naredili iz mesta Bakhmut.
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Evo, kaj so rusi naredili iz mesta Bakhmut.
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: BorutO ()
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/PaulJawin/status/16...
On February 22, a Russian armored group occupied the Pobeda farm, near Marinka, Donetsk region. After the group fell under Javelin fire and lost 4 BMP-3s and 2 tanks, the Russians retreated. Positions were recaptured after the Ukrainian counterattack.
zadnje čase se redko vidi BMP-3... tle so štirje uničeni na kupu
On February 22, a Russian armored group occupied the Pobeda farm, near Marinka, Donetsk region. After the group fell under Javelin fire and lost 4 BMP-3s and 2 tanks, the Russians retreated. Positions were recaptured after the Ukrainian counterattack.
zadnje čase se redko vidi BMP-3... tle so štirje uničeni na kupu
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Lesoto ()
mackilla ::
Kitajska se ne bo nikoli neposredno vmešala v vojno. Ostali bodo "nevtralni" v tej vojni. So zavezniki Rusov, ampak vojaško jim ne bodo pomagali, ker potem bodo Kitajci tanko piskali glede gospodarstva. Kitajci so zelo odvisni od tujega trga, oz. od izvoza in uvoza, če se to ustavi, tako kot so naredili Rusom, Kitajci klecnejo. Kitajska se tu ne bo igrala z gospodarstvom. Po mojem mnenju bodo ostali nevtralni, le da bodo na strani Rusije, vojaško pa jim ne bodo pomagali nikoli, če tudi vejo, da so trn v peti Zahodu. Najnujneše surovine in zrnja Kitajci dobivajo večinoma od teh držav: ZDA, Kanada, Avstralija, Rusija in od nekaterih EU držav. Drugače pa sploh ni nekaj preveč treba poudarjati, da Kitajci največ surovin in izdelkov izvozijo ravno v Zahodni svet.
Evo, kaj so rusi naredili iz mesta Bakhmut.
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Rusi osvobajo prebivalce Donbasa in Luganska predvsem nepremičnin in ostalega premoženja. Na koncu bosta teritorija popolnoma obubožana prebivalci bodo ali pobegnili ali se izselili. Mala cena za rusko svobodo.
Rambutan ::
Zahodna vojaška pomoč v akciji: najprej obstreljujejo Donetsk, ko pridej reševalci pa pošljejo na njih še Himars raketo.
https://twitter.com/theLemniscat/status...
How Ukraine uses western supplied HIMARS to murder first responders
23 February 2023
Ukraine forces struck an ambulance and emergency rescue workers, in the Petrovsky district of Donetsk, who had responded to previous shelling of civilian neighborhood.
https://twitter.com/theLemniscat/status...
How Ukraine uses western supplied HIMARS to murder first responders
23 February 2023
Ukraine forces struck an ambulance and emergency rescue workers, in the Petrovsky district of Donetsk, who had responded to previous shelling of civilian neighborhood.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- predlagal izbris: scythe ()
Malidelničar ::
Dober dokumentarec: Putin. Along the path of Hitler"
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
Kebo ::
Zahodna vojaška pomoč v akciji: najprej obstreljujejo Donetsk, ko pridej reševalci pa pošljejo na njih še Himars raketo.
https://twitter.com/theLemniscat/status...
How Ukraine uses western supplied HIMARS to murder first responders
23 February 2023
Ukraine forces struck an ambulance and emergency rescue workers, in the Petrovsky district of Donetsk, who had responded to previous shelling of civilian neighborhood.
Pomoč okupatorju, povsem legitimen vojaški cilj. Kaj sedaj jokaš? Ni bilo gledališče v Mariupolju polno otrok tudi vojaški cilj?
Pac-Man ::
Instagram Anjine mame
https://www.instagram.com/malaia3235/
Račun odprt septembra 2020, objavljat neha 23.2.2022, sicer cel kup afirmacij. 7.11.2021 je imela antivax dan
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV_TQuClh0B/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV_SUeTs2da/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV_Rii_FoR1/
28.11.2021 se je norčevala iz Zelenskega, češ da je mali Putin?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW00SrIsloN/
Dva dneva prej, če ima kaj veze?
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/26/euro...
več detajlov:
https://istories.media/news/2023/02/24/...
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Anya was the eldest in the family, but she spent her childhood in an orphanage: on social networks on the pages of her caregivers, you can find photos of the girl in the institution until 2015, after Olga took Anya home. According to family acquaintances, Olga's children were regularly seized from Olga, but then returned. “The mother led an asocial lifestyle, and, as I know, children were sometimes taken away from her,” recalls a resident of Mariupol, whose daughter went to school with her middle daughter Olga, in a conversation with Important Stories. “But at the same time, Anya was a very well-mannered girl, calm and always looked after her younger sister and brother.”
When the war began, the Naumenko family - Olga with her common-law husband Artur and children Anya, Karolina and Danya - first hid from shelling in the Left Bank Culture Center (the former House of Culture of Builders), and then in the building of the Left Bank Administration (district executive committee). “The girl Anya, along with the men under the bombings, ran to the ATB [shop] for groceries. Everyone looked after the children, except for the mother, ”recalls Ekaterina, a resident of Mariupol, who was with them in the basement.
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Victoria, who was in the shelter with the Naumenko family, recalls: “We were all evacuated without asking. The children were taken by Arthur, what happened next, unfortunately, I don’t know.” Also in the telegram channels you can find another message that “Arthur took the children. It seems like they all then went to Bezymennoe ( a village in the Donetsk region. - Approx. ed. ) ". Where Arthur is at the moment, his relatives do not know.
On the stage in Moscow's Luzhniki Stadium, we were only able to identify Anya and Karolina, where Daniil is located is unknown ( UPD: as Arthur's relative said, Daniil stayed with his grandmother, Karolina with her biological father, and Anya was assigned another guardian ). In one of the social networks, Anya's place of residence is the village of Nikitskoye near Moscow, but two teenagers from Mariupol told Important Stories that Anya was studying with them in Mariupol, and had left only "for a week." Two months ago, Anya posted a sad video with the caption “Mom. I want to see you".
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https://www.instagram.com/malaia3235/
Račun odprt septembra 2020, objavljat neha 23.2.2022, sicer cel kup afirmacij. 7.11.2021 je imela antivax dan
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV_TQuClh0B/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV_SUeTs2da/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV_Rii_FoR1/
28.11.2021 se je norčevala iz Zelenskega, češ da je mali Putin?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW00SrIsloN/
Prize, ours!!!! Rulit!!!!
Dva dneva prej, če ima kaj veze?
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/26/euro...
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says a group of Ukrainians and Russians is planning to carry out a coup against him next week.
Speaking at a news conference in Kiev on Friday, the President said he had received intelligence information, which included audio, indicating the coup is planned for December 1 or 2.
več detajlov:
https://istories.media/news/2023/02/24/...
...
Anya was the eldest in the family, but she spent her childhood in an orphanage: on social networks on the pages of her caregivers, you can find photos of the girl in the institution until 2015, after Olga took Anya home. According to family acquaintances, Olga's children were regularly seized from Olga, but then returned. “The mother led an asocial lifestyle, and, as I know, children were sometimes taken away from her,” recalls a resident of Mariupol, whose daughter went to school with her middle daughter Olga, in a conversation with Important Stories. “But at the same time, Anya was a very well-mannered girl, calm and always looked after her younger sister and brother.”
When the war began, the Naumenko family - Olga with her common-law husband Artur and children Anya, Karolina and Danya - first hid from shelling in the Left Bank Culture Center (the former House of Culture of Builders), and then in the building of the Left Bank Administration (district executive committee). “The girl Anya, along with the men under the bombings, ran to the ATB [shop] for groceries. Everyone looked after the children, except for the mother, ”recalls Ekaterina, a resident of Mariupol, who was with them in the basement.
...
Victoria, who was in the shelter with the Naumenko family, recalls: “We were all evacuated without asking. The children were taken by Arthur, what happened next, unfortunately, I don’t know.” Also in the telegram channels you can find another message that “Arthur took the children. It seems like they all then went to Bezymennoe ( a village in the Donetsk region. - Approx. ed. ) ". Where Arthur is at the moment, his relatives do not know.
On the stage in Moscow's Luzhniki Stadium, we were only able to identify Anya and Karolina, where Daniil is located is unknown ( UPD: as Arthur's relative said, Daniil stayed with his grandmother, Karolina with her biological father, and Anya was assigned another guardian ). In one of the social networks, Anya's place of residence is the village of Nikitskoye near Moscow, but two teenagers from Mariupol told Important Stories that Anya was studying with them in Mariupol, and had left only "for a week." Two months ago, Anya posted a sad video with the caption “Mom. I want to see you".
...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
lisaac ::
Kako hudo je 2 svetovni velesili ...
Naj še dam samo zanimivo primerjavo ... Rusija je po moči 2. svetovna velesila (bila pred vojno v Ukrajini), Ukrajina pa 15. In potem Ukrajinci šolajo Ruse kot za šalo.
Saj se Rusi ne vojskujejo samo z Ukrajino. Praktično cel zahod in Rusija.. Ukrajincev je seveda več, je pa tudi veliko tujcev /plačancev z drugih držav tam... da ne omenjam opreme, ki ni nič ukrajinska.
In se enkrat.. Rusi lažejo, Ukrajinci pa tud. Kar reče/napiše Ukrajinec, vzamete za sveto.. pa ni res.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: lisaac ()
Malidelničar ::
lisaac: Čeprav je v prvi rundi Ukrajina dobila veliko opreme s strani ruske vojske, ko je le-ta zapuščala opremo na bojiščih.
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
Kebo ::
Dej dej kakšni plačanci, zahodnjakov ni vse skupaj niti 500 v Ukrajini. Kar se pa tiče opreme, vsak kos ruske opreme, ki ukrajinci uničijo/zasežejo je €/$ prišparan, ker se ne rabimo mi oboroževat proti ruski grožnji. Neto efekt vse te vojaške pomoči je verjetno še vedno pozitiven, vsaj dokler gre na desetine BMPjev in T-72 v luft na dnevni ravni. Metki, granate in ostalo strelivo je v bistvu edini strošek, ki ga bomo mi direktno morali nosit. Vsi ti Abramsi, Leopardi, Challengerji in večina ostalega, kar se sedaj pošilja tja so stare zaloge iz hladne vojne, ki se ne bodo nadomeščale.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/...
U.S. hands over secret spy drones to Ukraine.
CyberLux K8 high-speed and highly maneuverable battlefield reconnaissance drone with a high-definition camera (Money Shot X8).
World's first FPV drone for large format cinema cameras.
Tista stavba zraven je baza FSBja v Donetsku. To glih ni civilni cilj.
U.S. hands over secret spy drones to Ukraine.
CyberLux K8 high-speed and highly maneuverable battlefield reconnaissance drone with a high-definition camera (Money Shot X8).
World's first FPV drone for large format cinema cameras.
Zahodna vojaška pomoč v akciji: najprej obstreljujejo Donetsk, ko pridej reševalci pa pošljejo na njih še Himars raketo.
Tista stavba zraven je baza FSBja v Donetsku. To glih ni civilni cilj.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenilo: Lesoto ()
Chalky ::
Zanimiv članek na 24 ur:
Putin: Zahod ima le en cilj - uničiti Rusijo
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/puti...
Imajo en cilj: razpustiti nekdanjo Sovjetsko zvezo in njen glavni del - Rusko federacijo," je dodal. Po njegovem mnenju bodo šele takrat sprejeli Rusijo v t. i. "družino civiliziranih narodov, ampak vsak del Rusije posebej"
"Proti čemu smo? Proti dejstvu, da se ta novi svet, ki nastaja, gradi izključno v interesu ene države, Združenih držav Amerike. Zdaj ko so njihovi poskusi preoblikovanja sveta po svoji podobi po padcu Sovjetske zveze privedli do te situacije, smo dolžni reagirati," je sklenil.
Še video:
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
Pa še en dober segment o tem kako vsi indikatorji kažejo na 3 svetovna vojna.
Edit: Nove ogromne pošiljke težkega orožja s strani ZDA. Sicer nisem prepričan ali so to nove dobave ali je video bil objavljen z zamikom. Namreč nekaj tednov nazaj so krožile podobne slike Nemških pristanišč polnih težkega orožja. Vse skupaj je namenjeno Vzhodnemu bloku.
Tole kopičenje me spominja na tistega iz prve zalivske vojne čeprav v manjšem obsegu.
Putin: Zahod ima le en cilj - uničiti Rusijo
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/puti...
Imajo en cilj: razpustiti nekdanjo Sovjetsko zvezo in njen glavni del - Rusko federacijo," je dodal. Po njegovem mnenju bodo šele takrat sprejeli Rusijo v t. i. "družino civiliziranih narodov, ampak vsak del Rusije posebej"
"Proti čemu smo? Proti dejstvu, da se ta novi svet, ki nastaja, gradi izključno v interesu ene države, Združenih držav Amerike. Zdaj ko so njihovi poskusi preoblikovanja sveta po svoji podobi po padcu Sovjetske zveze privedli do te situacije, smo dolžni reagirati," je sklenil.
Še video:
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
Pa še en dober segment o tem kako vsi indikatorji kažejo na 3 svetovna vojna.
Edit: Nove ogromne pošiljke težkega orožja s strani ZDA. Sicer nisem prepričan ali so to nove dobave ali je video bil objavljen z zamikom. Namreč nekaj tednov nazaj so krožile podobne slike Nemških pristanišč polnih težkega orožja. Vse skupaj je namenjeno Vzhodnemu bloku.
Tole kopičenje me spominja na tistega iz prve zalivske vojne čeprav v manjšem obsegu.
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Unchancy ::
Zahodna vojaška pomoč v akciji: najprej obstreljujejo Donetsk, ko pridej reševalci pa pošljejo na njih še Himars raketo.
https://twitter.com/theLemniscat/status...
How Ukraine uses western supplied HIMARS to murder first responders
23 February 2023
Ukraine forces struck an ambulance and emergency rescue workers, in the Petrovsky district of Donetsk, who had responded to previous shelling of civilian neighborhood.
Ah, hočeš reči, da so začeli delovati tako kot Rusi delujejo že cel čas?
Škoda časa za ta režimski forum.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.
Poldi112 ::
Prva minuta. Ukrajina je samo na poti do resničnih ciljev.
Peter Zeihan - I Am Shocked Things Are Getting Much Uglier For Russia
Spet te oslarije, kjer nabija, da bodo šli rusi nad NATO.
In če gre pri rusih za vojsko, ki se je od carskih dni naprej pozabila boriti, zakaj točno se jih tako bojimo? Ter zakaj so po enem letu še kar v Ukrajini? Brez municije in goriva, proti Javelin, Himars, Leopard, ...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Unchancy ::
A boš nehu lapat? A kar proti Leopardom so? A je že kakšen v akciji?
Škoda časa za ta režimski forum.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.
Pobrišite post, iz bunkerja vas že kličejo.
Adijo mod Rdeči Kmeri.
BorutO ::
Rusi osvobajo prebivalce Donbasa in Luganska predvsem nepremičnin in ostalega premoženja. Na koncu bosta teritorija popolnoma obubožana prebivalci bodo ali pobegnili ali se izselili. Mala cena za rusko svobodo.
Torej hočeš reči, da se Ukrajinci v Khersonu sami sebe bombardirajo, da Rusi ne morejo priti do njih? Se pravi, če so Ukrajinci nekje v neki civilni stavbi, da raje kar sami sebe razstrelijo, da Rusi ne pridejo do stavbe? Kaj je s teboj model? Jasno je, da Rusi bombardirajo vse okoli sebe. Glede na to koliko stavb po Ukrajini je zbombardiranih, bi Ukrajincem že v prvi polovici vojne moglo zmanjkati bomb in ostale municije. Rusi osvobajajo mesta ... ja. Mesta so do leta 2014 bila svobodna pred vsemi. Potem so Rusi pod pretvezo sprožili napad na Ukrajino in trdili, da so to proruski uporniki, ki so bili oblečeni v zeleno in niso imeli nobenih oblek Ruske vojske, da je izpadlo, da to niso vojaki ... ampak 23.2.22 so Nemci ugotovili, da so isti modeli, ki so leta 2014 veljali za proruske upornike, in so Rusi trdili, da njihove vojske ni v Ukrajini, marširali iz notranjosti Rusije proti Ukrajinski meji v nekaj 10km dolgi koloni v vojaških vozilih brez tablic in isto oblečeni kot takrat "proruski uporniki". Torej zdaj veš zakaj se je dogajal takrat genocid (od leta 2014) nad Ruskim prebivalstvom, kot tako radi omenjate rusofili tu gor. Rusi so pač bombardirali vse, kar jim je prišlo v napoto. To, koliko jim je bilo v resnici mar za ruskogovorečo prebivalstvo, je zdaj videno v tej vojni, ko svoje vojake pošiljajo v boj proti Ukrajincem brez vsega, nenatrenirane, vejo, da bodo tam umrli, pa vseeno iščejo ostale žrtve. Isto je zdaj videno, kako so Bakhmut zravnali z zemljo, kjer bi naj toliko Rusko govorečih prebivalcev živelo. To je samo izgovor. Rusom dol visi za svoje državljane, Putinu je važno samo, da si čim več ukrajinskega ozemlja priključi, neglede na posledice in žrtve na eni in drugi strani.
Zahodna vojaška pomoč v akciji: najprej obstreljujejo Donetsk, ko pridej reševalci pa pošljejo na njih še Himars raketo.
https://twitter.com/theLemniscat/status...
How Ukraine uses western supplied HIMARS to murder first responders
23 February 2023
Ukraine forces struck an ambulance and emergency rescue workers, in the Petrovsky district of Donetsk, who had responded to previous shelling of civilian neighborhood.
Mogoče je že res, a to je en primer od parih s strani ukrajine, vprašanje je, koliko zdravnikov in ostalih zdravstvenih delavcev so Rusi ubili, ko so bombardirali bolnišnice po celi Ukrajini. To je pa zate nepomemben podatek, a ne?
Poldi112 ::
Afrika bo imela leta 2050 3 milijarde ljudi in če se povežejo in ustvarijo svoj NATO in svoj EU ter enotno valuto to pomeni konec dolarja.
nevem najprej morajo not prinest 50+ let razvoja.. al kako si predstavljate da bodo v "multipolarnem" svetu bili bitke z zahodno tehnologijo proti zahodu kot to mislijo počet putinisti, mimogrede naredijo še selfie na svojem.. wait for it.. najnovejšem iphonu
Če kitajci iz njih naredijo novo Kitajsko, jih boš v par dekadah prosijačil za surovine oziroma poceni robo.
Malo preveč ste obsedeni z zahodno tehnologijo. Kitajci vodijo na vedno več področjih in več sankcij ko jim nabijemo, hitreje nas bodo prehiteli še na ostalih.
Strategija investiranja v vojsko in dvig cen ruskih surovin za lastno porabo verjetno ne pripomore k ohranjanju prednosti pred kitajci, ki kupujejo poceni nafto ter investirajo v tehnologije prihodnosti.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Chalky ::
CIA Director Burns on how intel has helped Ukraine's defense against Russia
CIA Director Burns "confident" China considering lethal aid to Russia
CIA Director Burns "confident" China considering lethal aid to Russia
Poldi112 ::
A boš nehu lapat? A kar proti Leopardom so? A je že kakšen v akciji?
Ne spremljam - vem le, da že mesece berem pravljice o tem.
Menda bo vsaj nemcem, ki so znani glede industrije, uspelo vsaj kakšnega dostaviti, če že američani potrebujejo več let, za prvo pošiljko Abramsov?
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
kow ::
Mene bolj zanima zakaj so Rusi nehali obstreljevati ukrajinsko infrastrukturo. Ocitno ne zmorejo dovolj hitro proizvajati raket.
Kako je to mogoce, ce pa ima Rusija "neskoncno" virov - al kaksne pravljice so nam ze prodajali ves cas.
Kako je to mogoce, ce pa ima Rusija "neskoncno" virov - al kaksne pravljice so nam ze prodajali ves cas.
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Poldi112 ::
Kitajska se ne bo nikoli neposredno vmešala v vojno. Ostali bodo "nevtralni" v tej vojni. So zavezniki Rusov, ampak vojaško jim ne bodo pomagali, ker potem bodo Kitajci tanko piskali glede gospodarstva. Kitajci so zelo odvisni od tujega trga, oz. od izvoza in uvoza, če se to ustavi, tako kot so naredili Rusom, Kitajci klecnejo. Kitajska se tu ne bo igrala z gospodarstvom. Po mojem mnenju bodo ostali nevtralni, le da bodo na strani Rusije, vojaško pa jim ne bodo pomagali nikoli, če tudi vejo, da so trn v peti Zahodu. Najnujneše surovine in zrnja Kitajci dobivajo večinoma od teh držav: ZDA, Kanada, Avstralija, Rusija in od nekaterih EU držav. Drugače pa sploh ni nekaj preveč treba poudarjati, da Kitajci največ surovin in izdelkov izvozijo ravno v Zahodni svet.
Evo, kaj so rusi naredili iz mesta Bakhmut.
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...
Kitajci vsekakor bodo preprečili zlom rusije, pa četudi to povzroči prekinitev stikov z zahodom. Seveda pa je do tega še daleč, tako da dvomim, da čutijo potrebo, da bi se vmešavali.
Itak jih pa zahod že leta sili v konfrontacijo - Pivot to Asia pod Obamo, Trumpov stopnjeval z goro sankcij, Biden pa že zaostruje politiko ter gradi vojaška zavezništva okoli kitajske obale.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.