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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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mackilla ::
Putika nekam dosti joka
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/evropa/zelen...
Z referendumi je sebi in Ukrajincem zaprl vsa vrata za pogajanja. Ne vem kaj se zdaj čudi. Nemci pa trenutno ne bi vzeli njegovega plina pa če ga da zastonj.
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yayo ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/...
Video showing moment when Ukrainian Missile hits a Thermal Power Station in Belgorod today
Komentirajo, da naj bi bila ruska. Ali skrajna nesposobnost ali pretest za kako "povračilo". Če je res.
TezkoDihanje ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/...
Video showing moment when Ukrainian Missile hits a Thermal Power Station in Belgorod today
Komentirajo, da naj bi bila ruska. Ali skrajna nesposobnost ali pretest za kako "povračilo". Če je res.
Aha, včeraj pa v neko tovarno/skladišče "orožja"
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/sta...
Strikes are reported in Oktyabrsky, Belgorodsky district, Russia. Presumably hit on a local sugar factory. Secondary detonations reported.
fur80 ::
Putika nekam dosti joka
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/evropa/zelen...
Z referendumi je sebi in Ukrajincem zaprl vsa vrata za pogajanja. Ne vem kaj se zdaj čudi. Nemci pa trenutno ne bi vzeli njegovega plina pa če ga da zastonj.
Putler je hinavec in psihopat. Sedaj se dela lepega, da se vsi malo sprostijo, tudi ljudje doma, da gre prvi šok mimo in potem spet jovo na novo, če bo rabil ljudi. To je kot lisica, ki napade kurnik, kokoši bežijo nato se malo pomirijo, ona se ne samo naje, pač pa pripravi še zalogo. Sreča, da Ukrajina in NATO nista tako naivna, sedaj je treba zaščititi mesta kolokor se da in da niso bile to samo praznje obljube sistemov, ki so jih države obljubljale, če sedaj verjamejo Putlerju, da bo nehal napadati, potem pa res ne vem no.
Če ste ga poslušali bi pa sedaj on spet prodajal plin v Evropo! :D On noče uničit Ukrajine! :D Pajac Medvedjev pa grozi, da naj Zahod neha strašit z jederskim orožjem! :D Skratka to tam je bolano do konca, kaj so jim kaj mešali v kri!
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fur80 ::
Pac-Man ::
So na strelišču, lahko strelja tudi kdo izven kadra, tako da zvoka IMO niso dodajali.
Meni je čudno, da ta kaos ob lesenih pregradah prodajajo kot neko resno šolanje, Ukrajinci so svoje izobraževali več mesecev.
Na koncu pa pokaže še par oficirjev, ki so prišli malo v kontrolo. JLA mentaliteta, vojne takole ne bodo dobili.
https://twitter.com/raging545/status/15...
VIDEO of Russian Conscripts undergoing a day or two of firing a rifle. The Russian Ministry of Defense to ensure they seemed to be shooting (for Russian viewers) added the sounds of gunshots even when no one was firing.
Komentar celega videa s strani bivšega marinca:
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Da ne bodo rusofili skakali kako so Ukrajinci sedaj grdi, ker ne sprejmejo premirja!
Russian President Vladimir Putin has plans to launch a full-scale offensive next year in Ukraine, which would mark a significant escalation from the "partial mobilization" Moscow initiated last month, according to Meduza, which cites "multiple" sources close to the Kremlin.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-s...
Russian President Vladimir Putin has plans to launch a full-scale offensive next year in Ukraine, which would mark a significant escalation from the "partial mobilization" Moscow initiated last month, according to Meduza, which cites "multiple" sources close to the Kremlin.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-s...
Pac-Man ::
Stokrat smo šli skozi, pojdimo še sto prvič. Snyder:
https://twitter.com/TimothyDSnyder/stat...
https://twitter.com/TimothyDSnyder/stat...
All of you who are saying that we have to give in to nuclear blackmail are making nuclear war more likely. Please stop. When you give in to it, you empower dictators to do it again, encourage worldwide nuclear proliferation, and make nuclear war much, much more likely.
If you are thinking about nuclear war, this might help.
https://snyder.substack.com/p/how-does-...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mojsterleo ::
Še par novičk iz Belorusije:
- Lukašenko naj bi razglasil tajno mobilizacijo. Enote naj bi popolnjevali pod pretvezo testa usposobljenosti vojakov.
- napovedali so začetek protiteroristične operacije za zaščito meja in režima.
- v 12 južnih regijah so prebivalstvu prepovedali gibanje v gozdovih.
- v kraju Pinsk, 23km od meje z Ukrajino, so opazili dolge kolone oklepnih vozil, ki so se premikale proti jugu.
- Lukašenko naj bi razglasil tajno mobilizacijo. Enote naj bi popolnjevali pod pretvezo testa usposobljenosti vojakov.
- napovedali so začetek protiteroristične operacije za zaščito meja in režima.
- v 12 južnih regijah so prebivalstvu prepovedali gibanje v gozdovih.
- v kraju Pinsk, 23km od meje z Ukrajino, so opazili dolge kolone oklepnih vozil, ki so se premikale proti jugu.
Stikalo ::
Da ne bodo rusofili skakali kako so Ukrajinci sedaj grdi, ker ne sprejmejo premirja!
Russian President Vladimir Putin has plans to launch a full-scale offensive next year in Ukraine, which would mark a significant escalation from the "partial mobilization" Moscow initiated last month, according to Meduza, which cites "multiple" sources close to the Kremlin.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-s...
vojna v ukrajini se bo lahko še vlekla, leto dve, vse dokler ne pride na oblast bolj normalen človek. Sedaj pa, ali bo Putin letel čez okno ali pa ne. Sam mislim, da bo sedaj Putin zaprl to kao delno mobilizacijo in po pol leta servisiral javno mnenje. Samo zna biti probem, ker se mu bo vojska v ukrajini porušila.
Kaj pa vem, verjetno bo na enkrat vse crknilo - v rusiji.
fur80 ::
Da ne bodo rusofili skakali kako so Ukrajinci sedaj grdi, ker ne sprejmejo premirja!
Russian President Vladimir Putin has plans to launch a full-scale offensive next year in Ukraine, which would mark a significant escalation from the "partial mobilization" Moscow initiated last month, according to Meduza, which cites "multiple" sources close to the Kremlin.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-s...
vojna v ukrajini se bo lahko še vlekla, leto dve, vse dokler ne pride na oblast bolj normalen človek. Sedaj pa, ali bo Putin letel čez okno ali pa ne. Sam mislim, da bo sedaj Putin zaprl to kao delno mobilizacijo in po pol leta servisiral javno mnenje. Samo zna biti probem, ker se mu bo vojska v ukrajini porušila.
Kaj pa vem, verjetno bo na enkrat vse crknilo - v rusiji.
Sedaj si Putlerja že vsak privošči. Tadžikistanski diktator mu jih je sedaj napel, ostalim okoli poglej kako jim je neprijetno, še v komentarjih nekateri ne morejo verjeti, da si je to upal :D
Tajikistan's president demands respect from Russian President Vladimir Putin in a remarkable outburst at Central Asia-Russia summit in Astana Ga je kdo tako napadel že pred 24. 2. 2022? :D
https://twitter.com/Peter__Leonard/stat...
In kaj mu za konec napove, da je bil zraven pri razpadu Sovjetske zveze in da sedaj on (Putin) dela iste napake, da bo tudi Rusija naprej razpadla! Skratka, človek ne bo več pil čaja in pa hodil v višje zgradbe! :D
Rahmon blames the collapse of the Soviet Union on failure by Moscow to give proper consideration to the interests of the "small republics," implying that Russia is making the same mistakes all over again
https://twitter.com/Peter__Leonard/stat...
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fur80 ::
Za vso bedo in žalost, v državah osrednje Azije, ki jih vodijo diktatorji je kriv Zahod, nobeden diktator nikoli nič kriv. Rusi bi bili najboljši in tudi drugi, če ne bi bilo grdega Zahoda! :D
Putin blames outsiders for stirring trouble in Central Asia Kot bi jim predaval ekonomijo, zgodovino,... na posebni šoli.
If there are any tensions in relations between a bellicose Russia which has invaded its neighbor and its former colonies in Central Asia, outsiders are to blame for stirring them up.
That, at least, was the message delivered by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit with Central Asian leaders in Kazakhstan on October 14.
"The situation that has taken shape in the world and in the region encourages the activation of all mechanisms of cooperation between us," he told the presidents of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.
https://eurasianet.org/putin-blames-out...
Putin blames outsiders for stirring trouble in Central Asia Kot bi jim predaval ekonomijo, zgodovino,... na posebni šoli.
If there are any tensions in relations between a bellicose Russia which has invaded its neighbor and its former colonies in Central Asia, outsiders are to blame for stirring them up.
That, at least, was the message delivered by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit with Central Asian leaders in Kazakhstan on October 14.
"The situation that has taken shape in the world and in the region encourages the activation of all mechanisms of cooperation between us," he told the presidents of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.
https://eurasianet.org/putin-blames-out...
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kuall ::
ha. putler je danes djal, da mu ni žal, da je napadel ukrajino, ker vojna bi itak bila, tudi če ne bi rusija napadla prva. zdej ko je rusija prva napdla, da imajo prednost.
kak lolek. takole iščejo nekaj dobrega v nesreči vraževerni ljudje, da gredo lažje naprej. pa rečejo: še srečo sem imel, da sem si zlomil samo nogo, lahko bi bil mrtev. zadnjič mi je ena vraževerna ženska rekla nekaj podobnega: what is here good that i don't see. sem rabil nekaj časa, da sem zakopčal, da baba hoče negativno situacijo prikazat kot pozitivno. to ne gre tako, resnici je treba pogledat v oči, vraževerni putardi.
kak lolek. takole iščejo nekaj dobrega v nesreči vraževerni ljudje, da gredo lažje naprej. pa rečejo: še srečo sem imel, da sem si zlomil samo nogo, lahko bi bil mrtev. zadnjič mi je ena vraževerna ženska rekla nekaj podobnega: what is here good that i don't see. sem rabil nekaj časa, da sem zakopčal, da baba hoče negativno situacijo prikazat kot pozitivno. to ne gre tako, resnici je treba pogledat v oči, vraževerni putardi.
kuall ::
vojna je mahanje politikov s tujim kurcem po koprivah. če bi morali s svojim ne bi bile tako pogoste, bi prej 2x premislili, kako jih bo peklo.
TezkoDihanje ::
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...
Of a group of 100 mobilized just 2 weeks ago, 80 are already dead.
Russian population slowly figuring out that mobilized aren't intended to fight, but merely to absorb expensive Ukrainian ammo.
Of a group of 100 mobilized just 2 weeks ago, 80 are already dead.
Russian population slowly figuring out that mobilized aren't intended to fight, but merely to absorb expensive Ukrainian ammo.
mackilla ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...
Of a group of 100 mobilized just 2 weeks ago, 80 are already dead.
Russian population slowly figuring out that mobilized aren't intended to fight, but merely to absorb expensive Ukrainian ammo.
Mobiliziranci so človeška bodeča žica,ki ima edino funkcijo,da se Ukrajinci zapletejo v njo. Vsaj začasno.
Stikalo ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...
Of a group of 100 mobilized just 2 weeks ago, 80 are already dead.
Russian population slowly figuring out that mobilized aren't intended to fight, but merely to absorb expensive Ukrainian ammo.
Mobiliziranci so človeška bodeča žica,ki ima edino funkcijo,da se Ukrajinci zapletejo v njo. Vsaj začasno.
pomojem se hočejo samo znebiti določenih slojev.
Rusom se pomojem blešči pred očmi. Napadejo sosednjo državo, da jo bi podjarmili in okupirali v 3 dneh. Ljudstvo se pa ruski bedi totalno upre, američani jih pa nafilajo z 20 miljard $ orožja + ogromno obveščevalnimi podatki. Noro.
Pac-Man ::
nit
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...
🧵 An interesting analysis of the 🇷🇺 logistics in the south by the 🇷🇺 military researcher Atomic Cherry. They show that 🇷🇺 relied heavily on the Crimean bridge and the damage to it will have long-lasting consequences given the lack of alternatives to supply south:
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Apparently, the high command of the RF Armed Forces is counting on the speedy repair of the railway bridge across the Kerch Strait and on the previously accumulated stocks of military equipment in the area of Dzhankoy and Chaplinka.
At the same time, the condition of the bridge itself is currently unclear.
Due to the peculiarities of its design made out of full-metal ballast troughs, the burning out of 450 tons of diesel fuel, followed by extinguishing with cold sea water, could seriously damage the integrity of the structure.
In a word, the true consequences of what happened to the bridge are just beginning to manifest themselves at least on a somewhat full scale . What they will eventually result in will become clear over the next 3-4 weeks."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
mackilla ::
TezkoDihanje je izjavil:
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...
Of a group of 100 mobilized just 2 weeks ago, 80 are already dead.
Russian population slowly figuring out that mobilized aren't intended to fight, but merely to absorb expensive Ukrainian ammo.
Mobiliziranci so človeška bodeča žica,ki ima edino funkcijo,da se Ukrajinci zapletejo v njo. Vsaj začasno.
pomojem se hočejo samo znebiti določenih slojev.
Rusom se pomojem blešči pred očmi. Napadejo sosednjo državo, da jo bi podjarmili in okupirali v 3 dneh. Ljudstvo se pa ruski bedi totalno upre, američani jih pa nafilajo z 20 miljard $ orožja + ogromno obveščevalnimi podatki. Noro.
Itak. Rusi svoje manjšine uporabljajo kot so Rimljani barbarske najemnike. V prvih vrstah,da absorbirajo čim več sovražnikove moči. Ubijejo dve muhi na en mah. Pri prebivalcih Moskve se ne čuti,da je vojna in ob enem se znebijo morebitnih upornikov.
Pac-Man ::
Ukrajinci imajo v rokah en rahlo obtolčen Šahid, na VK je še video
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1581...
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1581...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...
Summary of the daily livestream with Aleksey Arestovych, kindly brought to you by Janat: @Janat_H1
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🇷🇺 border territories are subjected to “self-shelling.” 🇷🇺 tries to hit targets on 🇺🇦 territory, but the shells fall in 🇷🇺 territory hitting ammunition depots, residential areas, etc. 🇺🇦 denies its involvement.
Advice from Arestovych to citizens of Belgorod, Bryansk, and Kursk areas: stay away from the accumulation of 🇷🇺 troops that do not “comply with fire safety regulations.”
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Arestovych reflects that if RU withdraws its troops from 🇺🇦 , miraculously all fire regulations will be kept, and people will smoke only in designated places.
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🇧🇾 is preparing to receive several thousands of 🇷🇺mobilized, conducting a covert partial mobilization of military personnel of construction professions inside the country. 🇧🇾’s main goal is not to fight with 🇺🇦 but to build accommodations for the 🇷🇺contingent.
This will be mostly mobilized as 85% of the ‘thinned’ professional military is already in 🇺🇦 with 15% recovering in Russia.
🇧🇾accommodates roughly 20-22 thousand troops. Only about 4-6 BTG have been formed which is ⅕ of all troops there.
This points to major resource and organizational problems with 🇷🇺mobilization.
🇷🇺mobilized are facing problems with winter uniforms; 🇧🇾 textile industry just now received orders to make winter military clothing.
Even professional 🇷🇺 military is not adequately and timely supplied. In July in Kherson, they fought in +40C heat in winter uniforms they wore as they entered 🇺🇦 in February.
Another lacking resource: sergeants and junior officers.
The problem of the RF is how to organize the combat-readiness of Putin’s planned 300 thousand mobilized.
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🇷🇺 begs for negotiations out of fear of internal collapse.
Mobilization expedited all internal processes. First, it flushes young working men out of the economy through emigration and mobilization.
Second, it delegitimizes Putin’s regime because the social contract was the professional army fights in faraway lands, and the rest of the population sits on the couch and watches TV.
🇺🇦’s refusal to negotiate will increase internal pressure and can lead to the removal of Putin from power. This would be the ideal solution as an alternative to a nuclear attack.
🔥 Future missile strikes
No major missile strikes on 🇺🇦are planned for now, Putin said at the CIS summit in Kazakhstan. Arestovych’s translation of Putin’s speech: “Costly shelling of Ukraine brought unsatisfactory results, and we are looking for other methods.”
Most of the infrastructure damage was repaired in 1-2 days.
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🇷🇺 is using its emergency reserve, especially of Kalibr, with complete impossibility to re-stock. 🇷🇺 will rapidly disarm itself if it continues to make such irrational decisions.
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/...
The Russian Telegram channel 'Cheka-OGPU' has posted a detailed account of the recruitment by the Wagner Group of 200 prisoners from the Rostov region and their subsequent massacre by the Ukrainians in their first combat engagement. Translation follows:
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
scythe ::
Rusi bodo 100% raketirali iz Belorusije v Ukrajino in sledila bo kontra raketa, potem bo Putinova cipa jokala, da je to teroristični napad na njihovo ozemlje.
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kow ::
sej neki vojske ima.
Orozja nima kaj veliko. Ce nisi opazil, so ga celo posiljali Rusom.
Drugace je ta poljak, kar strucko oz. se s tem ukvarja:
https://twitter.com/konrad_muzyka/statu...
The Belarusian Armed Forces are largely a mobilisational force. Their manpower is at around 50-60% of the required peacetime strength. To reach 100%, they'd need to mobilise at least 20k men. Operationally, they are subordinated to the Russian Western MD.
They don't have Land Forces Command, and they do not conduct exercises above battalion level, but even these are rare. They mostly train platoons and companies. More forces are deployed for Russia-organised drills such as Zapad or Union Shield.
Currently, they maintain some presence near the border with Ukraine (1k km long). Size varies depending on the source. Ukrainians claim Belarusians deployed up to 7 BTGs, but we assess these are actually CTGs, which would correspond with their level of training and capability.
But,since April, Belarusian exercise tempo has been the highest since the end of the Cold War. Minsk tested all capabilities as if it was preparing to go to war: the creation of territorial def battalions, mobilisation, and postal service to deliver orders (and draft notices?)
You name it, they tested it. The "problem" is that these drills were, again, small and did not usually go beyond a city or an oblast. But it allowed them to see what works and what does not.
There are three possible explanations behind this behaviour: 1 ) Prep for a NATO attack 2) To tie up Ukrainian forces near the border to prevent their deployment to other areas 3) Prep for an attack on Ukraine
Currently, we do not know which scenario is more likely, although our focus is primarily on the latter two. The Belarusian regime is more secretive than its Russian counterpart, so we will need to be reactive to what Minsk does. It is very difficult to forecast anything
However, given that the Belarusian Armed Forces are a mobilisation force, given they would need to deploy a lot of personnel towards the border, create concentration areas, etc., I am certain we will be able to pick up changes in the Belarusian posture and provide strategic warning when an attack could happen (if at all).
One more thing: In recent weeks we have seen increasingly threatening but still defensive Belarusian rhetoric towards Ukraine: "Don't attack or else". This could be a prep for a false flag attack.
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enemon ::
Stokrat smo šli skozi, pojdimo še sto prvič. Snyder:
https://twitter.com/TimothyDSnyder/stat...
All of you who are saying that we have to give in to nuclear blackmail are making nuclear war more likely. Please stop. When you give in to it, you empower dictators to do it again, encourage worldwide nuclear proliferation, and make nuclear war much, much more likely.
If you are thinking about nuclear war, this might help.
https://snyder.substack.com/p/how-does-...
Samo stokrat? You can do better man!
mackilla ::
Rusi bodo 100% raketirali iz Belorusije v Ukrajino in sledila bo kontra raketa, potem bo Putinova cipa jokala, da je to teroristični napad na njihovo ozemlje.
To je zagotovo načrt. Nekaj takega kot so naredili Nemci pred napadom na Poljsko.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwit...
Tidule ::
Lukasenko, marioneta kakrsna je, se vseeno zaveda, da bo v primeru vstopa Belorusije v vojno imel zelo kratjo trajanje. Putin ga bo v sekundi zrtvoval poljakom ce bo treba (ali pa preprosto aneksiral), v kolikor ne bodo ze notranji nemiru raztrgal belorusijo tisto sekundo ko bodo vojaki zaposleni z ukrajinci.
Belorusi niso pozabili kaj se je zgodilo in predvsem je njegova kontrola nad drzavo bistveno sibkejsa od putinove.
Vprasanje pa je ce ne bo do notranje vojne prislo tudi ce bo rekel rusiji ne.
Bolj verjeten scenarij je da bo belorusija v skladu s svojimi kapacitetami, nudila suppory rusiji, ne bo pa se vmesala v konflikt.
Je pa vsekakor putinu v interesu da bi belorusi odprli severno fronto, ker bi to fokus in resourse ukrajine razprsilo. Pa cetudi bi to pomenilo konec belorusije pod lukasenkom.
Belorusi niso pozabili kaj se je zgodilo in predvsem je njegova kontrola nad drzavo bistveno sibkejsa od putinove.
Vprasanje pa je ce ne bo do notranje vojne prislo tudi ce bo rekel rusiji ne.
Bolj verjeten scenarij je da bo belorusija v skladu s svojimi kapacitetami, nudila suppory rusiji, ne bo pa se vmesala v konflikt.
Je pa vsekakor putinu v interesu da bi belorusi odprli severno fronto, ker bi to fokus in resourse ukrajine razprsilo. Pa cetudi bi to pomenilo konec belorusije pod lukasenkom.
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kow ::
Odvisno kaksni so njegovi cilji. Kratkorocno je gotovo v njegovem interesu dati cim vec orozja Rusom. Potem pa pac rece, da sami nimajo oborozene vojske in Belorusi ne bodo umirali. Kar mu poveca moznosti, da vlada naprej. Ce pa Ukrajinci v vojni zmagajo, je Rusija mocno oslabljena, njegov rezim pa obkoljen s proevropskimi drzavami in NATO. Na nek nacin je to zanj najslabsi scenarij, imo. Ker potem lahko samo se zbezi v Rusijo - folk se mu bo uprl.
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kow ::
Tidule ::
Scenarij, ki je resno zaskrbljujoc, je uporaba takticnega jedrskega orozja preko beloruskih vojaskih kapacitet.
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mackilla ::
pangro ::
mojsterleo ::
Scenarij, ki je resno zaskrbljujoc, je uporaba takticnega jedrskega orozja preko beloruskih vojaskih kapacitet.
To je logična varovalka za preživetje režima. Če bi bili Belorusi tepeni in bi Ukrajinci (pa tudi njihovi zavezniki) napadli v Belorusijo z namenom sesutja režima, imajo možnost da uporabijo jedrsko orožje.
yayo ::
Če zvlecejo poljake v spopade bo govora o tretji svetovni vojni katero bodo vsi skušali ustaviti. Morda na račun Ukrajine. Glede na to, da je Putin certificiran sociopat brez milosti do lastnih državljanov morda tako razmišlja. Je pa Lukasenko podlasica, obrnil se bo glede na lastno korist v trenutku, ko ne bo več v nevarnosti defenestracije. Štima?
jernejl ::
mojsterleo je izjavil:
Če imajo/dobijo Belorusi to možnost, je logično pričakovati, da jo bodo dobili tudi Ukrajinci. To je logična varovalka za to, da Belorusi ne uporabijo jedrskega orožja.... ker bo tovrstno orožje potem začelo padati tako po Belorusih kot po Rusih.Scenarij, ki je resno zaskrbljujoc, je uporaba takticnega jedrskega orozja preko beloruskih vojaskih kapacitet.
To je logična varovalka za preživetje režima. Če bi bili Belorusi tepeni in bi Ukrajinci (pa tudi njihovi zavezniki) napadli v Belorusijo z namenom sesutja režima, imajo možnost da uporabijo jedrsko orožje.
Če bodo torej Rusi dali jedrsko orožje Belorusom, bodo morali razumeti tudi, če bo potem NATO dal tovrstno orožje Ukrajincem. Dvomim, da si želijo tak scenarij.
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scythe ::
A Belorusije je že dobila kakšno opozorilo iz strani NATA ali ZDA, če vstopi v Ukrajino? Ukrajinci jih še niso opozorili, če bodo kakšne rakete letele iz njihovega ozemlja, da bodo vračali udarce.
Če vstopi Belorusija v Ukrajino, potem bi moral NATO v Belorusijo. Pa da vidimo...
Kako to, da bo Savdska Arabija pomagala Ukrajini?
Če vstopi Belorusija v Ukrajino, potem bi moral NATO v Belorusijo. Pa da vidimo...
Kako to, da bo Savdska Arabija pomagala Ukrajini?
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XsenO ::
Kako to, da bo Savdska Arabija pomagala Ukrajini?
Morda jim ne paše več, da Rusi prodajajo nafto z +20% popustom
https://www.neste.com/investors/market-...
1 + 1 = 1
Tidule ::
A Belorusije je že dobila kakšno opozorilo iz strani NATA ali ZDA, če vstopi v Ukrajino? Ukrajinci jih še niso opozorili, če bodo kakšne rakete letele iz njihovega ozemlja, da bodo vračali udarce.
Če vstopi Belorusija v Ukrajino, potem bi moral NATO v Belorusijo. Pa da vidimo...
Kako to, da bo Savdska Arabija pomagala Ukrajini?
Nato ne bo posegel v belorusijo razen ce se aktivira 5.clen.
Problem je, ce dejansko rusija uporabi belorusijo za proxy in belorusija izstreli takticno jedrsko konico.
Potem bo Nato stisnjen v kot. Ce ne naredijo nic, potem je Ukrajina izgubljena ker bo to izgovor za vsesplosno uporabo takega orozja. Druga izbira pa je da kice blef. Samo potem morajo dobesedno cez noc izbrisat Belorusijo iz oblicja zemlje. Rusija mora dobit jasno sporocilo: ce uporabis jedrsko orozje kot ofenzivno opcijo, potem prenehas obstajat, ne glede na ceno.
Pac-Man ::
Čista zmaga za Rusijo.
https://twitter.com/tkassenova/status/1...
https://twitter.com/tkassenova/status/1...
On Russia's war against Ukraine and the Russian language. I am writing this as someone who grew up in Almaty, where during the Soviet period, only a couple of schools taught in Kazakh. My peers and I were completely Russified.
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In Kazakhstan, Russia's war did more for the Kazakh language promotion than 30 years of the Kazakh government's attempts did. The youth especially is switching to Kazakh whenever they can. Non-ethnic Kazakhs from Kazakhstan are also more interested in Kazakh than before.
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There's a lot of excitement around the Kazakh language. It's a trend that started several years ago - Q-pop, soap operas in Kazakh, podcasts that mix Kazakh & Russian. The war intensified the trend. People of 🇰🇿 solidify their identity that is moving away from the Soviet past.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
redtech ::
Toko je SA sporočila, kaj se bo zgodilo, če bodo sanjali o črni kapici:
Saudi Arabia lowers oil prices for Europe but raises them again for the US as White House says OPEC+ is siding with Russia
Saudi Arabia lowers oil prices for Europe but raises them again for the US as White House says OPEC+ is siding with Russia
scythe ::
A Belorusije je že dobila kakšno opozorilo iz strani NATA ali ZDA, če vstopi v Ukrajino? Ukrajinci jih še niso opozorili, če bodo kakšne rakete letele iz njihovega ozemlja, da bodo vračali udarce.
Če vstopi Belorusija v Ukrajino, potem bi moral NATO v Belorusijo. Pa da vidimo...
Kako to, da bo Savdska Arabija pomagala Ukrajini?
Nato ne bo posegel v belorusijo razen ce se aktivira 5.clen.
Problem je, ce dejansko rusija uporabi belorusijo za proxy in belorusija izstreli takticno jedrsko konico.
Potem bo Nato stisnjen v kot. Ce ne naredijo nic, potem je Ukrajina izgubljena ker bo to izgovor za vsesplosno uporabo takega orozja. Druga izbira pa je da kice blef. Samo potem morajo dobesedno cez noc izbrisat Belorusijo iz oblicja zemlje. Rusija mora dobit jasno sporocilo: ce uporabis jedrsko orozje kot ofenzivno opcijo, potem prenehas obstajat, ne glede na ceno.
Gledali pa tudi ne bodo, kako se Belorusija sprehaja po Ukrajini. V jederski vojni ni zmagovalca, upam da ne bo prišlo do tega...
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