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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

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DarkSite ::

"The first line of defence of Russians on the Kherson Front has been broken"

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/...

kow ::

Ta account ni ravno zanesljiv. Bomo pa kmalu videli, ce so ukrajinci res napadli.

Pac-Man ::

Malo bo še za počakat

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1...

Scoop: Ukrainian forces have begun "shaping" operations in S. Ukraine to prepare the battlefield for a significant Ukrainian counteroffensive, two senior US officials briefed on the intel tell me. US believes the long-anticipated counteroffensive will include air & ground ops.

Shaping operations are standard military practice prior to an offensive and involve striking weapons systems, command and control, ammunition depots and other targets to prepare the battlefield for planned advances.

The plans come as Russia's war in Ukraine has passed its six-month mark, with US assessments indicating that Russia has been able to deploy fewer units to the frontlines than initially thought, according to a senior US official.

The official said many of the existing units -- which Russia organizes into Battlefield Tactical Groups, or BTGs, comprising infantry, tanks, artillery and air defense -- are deploying below strength, some even at half their normal manpower.

Ukraine indicated Monday the actions were underway. "Ukrainian armed forces have started the offensive actions in several directions on the South front towards liberating the occupied territories," Natalia Humeniuk, spokesperson for UKR’s Operational Command South, told CNN.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

DarkSite ::

"Sukhyi Stavok is confirmed liberated."

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/...

Pac-Man ::

priporočeno, manj kot teden staro, 13 minut

How Bellingcat is using social media to track alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

kow ::

DarkSite je izjavil:

"Sukhyi Stavok is confirmed liberated."

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/...


To je vas z enimi 40 hisami 8-)

Ce nisi nastudiral kje so defenzivne linije, ceste, kako visi teren itd.
Ti take novice ne povejo nic.

Vanich ::

kow je izjavil:

DarkSite je izjavil:

"Sukhyi Stavok is confirmed liberated."

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/...


To je vas z enimi 40 hisami 8-)

Ce nisi nastudiral kje so defenzivne linije, ceste, kako visi teren itd.
Ti take novice ne povejo nic.


Privošči jim malo veselja, no! :))

PrimoZ_ ::

3 dni do Ruske zmage!

Kateri dan je danes ?

Pac-Man ::

Dogaja, uraden ruski medij:

https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/156...

Mass evacuation announced in Nova Kakhovka

Residents are distributed to bomb shelters and basements in connection with the massive shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, said Vladimir Leontyev, head of the regional military administration.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Samo fakin Wagner in Rusič se mečejo ven, podobno kot Azov pri Ukrajincih.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...

Wagner fighter Grey Zone confirms Ukrainian advance, says AFU have successes in numerous areas. Confirms Sukhoy Stavok is certainly taken. So far, most of the things Ukrainians military have said appear true.

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Voss ::

Danes je in še bo pekel za Ruse. Nebi rad bil v njihovi koži danes.

TezkoDihanje ::

nekaj novega

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/...
Ukrainian HIMARS and M270s continue to hit Russian forward positions all across the Kherson frontline.

prešaltal na close support s HIMARSi.

Voss ::

Looks like things also brewing in Melitopol...

At least four explosions were said to took place in the vicinity of Russia-occupied city of Melitopol in Zaporizhzhia Oblast of Ukraine this afternoon.

nirburu ::

USA je v zadnji pošiljki med drugim potalala 1000 javelinov.

UKR vojsko sem videl streljati z njimi po navadni pehoti. Recimo peščici petih ruskih vojakov na kupu.
V kolikšnem času bodo porabili zaloge s takim tempom?
Jaz mislim, da kar hitro.

Roko na srce, človeški juriši so še vedno daleč najcenejši.

fikus_ ::

To smo pa že pred meseci ugotovili da jih Ukrajinci porabijo sproti kot jih dobivajo.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

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luli ::

nirburu je izjavil:

USA je v zadnji pošiljki med drugim potalala 1000 javelinov.

UKR vojsko sem videl streljati z njimi po navadni pehoti. Recimo peščici petih ruskih vojakov na kupu.
V kolikšnem času bodo porabili zaloge s takim tempom?
Jaz mislim, da kar hitro.

Roko na srce, človeški juriši so še vedno daleč najcenejši.

Nič se ne boj. Bomo novih 10.000 poslali. Če bo še teh sfalilo, pa jim bomo katapultirali pralne stroje.

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mackilla ::

nirburu je izjavil:

USA je v zadnji pošiljki med drugim potalala 1000 javelinov.

UKR vojsko sem videl streljati z njimi po navadni pehoti. Recimo peščici petih ruskih vojakov na kupu.
V kolikšnem času bodo porabili zaloge s takim tempom?
Jaz mislim, da kar hitro.

Roko na srce, človeški juriši so še vedno daleč najcenejši.

Po pehoti si jih verjetno videl streljati z stugno in ne javelinom.

TezkoDihanje ::

https://mobile.twitter.com/gerashchenko...
"F*** you, putin!" - Pavel Filatyev, a former russian paratrooper, who publicly criticized the invasion in a 141-page testimony.
The fugitive reached Paris. In protest, he tore up his passport, military ID, and veteran's ID right in the airport.

Bivši VDVjevec

nirburu ::

mackilla je izjavil:

nirburu je izjavil:

USA je v zadnji pošiljki med drugim potalala 1000 javelinov.

UKR vojsko sem videl streljati z njimi po navadni pehoti. Recimo peščici petih ruskih vojakov na kupu.
V kolikšnem času bodo porabili zaloge s takim tempom?
Jaz mislim, da kar hitro.

Roko na srce, človeški juriši so še vedno daleč najcenejši.

Po pehoti si jih verjetno videl streljati z stugno in ne javelinom.


Žal ne. Videjo je bil dokaj nedvoumen. Kameraman je bil na desno od strelca, ta pa je z javelinom meril poševno navzgor in tipično izstrelil.
Ampak to ni nič novega. Američani so v iraqu streljali z njimi v stavbe z horizontal mode.

Pravzaprav je logično. Kdo bi se šel dvoboja na 150m ko lahko iz varnega zavetja kilometer stran odvržeš podarjeno raketo.
Mam občutek da UKR vojaki, smatrajo ameriško municijo kot samoumevno. Ne vrjamem, da sploh dobijo ukaze "every bullet counts".

PrimoZ_ ::

Jaz nimam s tem problemov. Ukrajinci morajo pazit na svoje vojake, in če Ruse pošljejo v večna lovišča iz varne razdalje, tudi prav.

Mr.B ::

Sedaj pa res
Ukraine announces the start of a long-awaited counteroffensive to retake territory in the south seized by Russian forces since their invasion six months ago, a move reflecting Kyiv's growing confidence as Western military aid flows in.
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kow ::

Kako ze? Oktobra bodo Rusi v Kramatorsku?

nirburu ::

PrimoZ_ je izjavil:

Jaz nimam s tem problemov. Ukrajinci morajo pazit na svoje vojake, in če Ruse pošljejo v večna lovišča iz varne razdalje, tudi prav.


Ne bodi tak, nogometni navijač. Brcati žogo je težje kot noro navijati iz tribun.
Folk umira brutalne smrti tam, eni in drugi.
Videl sem enega soldata, na katerega med spanjem pade granata iz drona, preveč.

PrimoZ_ ::

kow je izjavil:

Kako ze? Oktobra bodo Rusi v Kramatorsku?



V malo nazaj zaklenjeni temi je bilo par "glasov razuma" ki so napovedovali da je vse skupaj brez veze, ker bodo rusi vsak čas zavzeli Odeso.

nirburu je izjavil:

PrimoZ_ je izjavil:

Jaz nimam s tem problemov. Ukrajinci morajo pazit na svoje vojake, in če Ruse pošljejo v večna lovišča iz varne razdalje, tudi prav.


Ne bodi tak, nogometni navijač. Brcati žogo je težje kot noro navijati iz tribun.
Folk umira brutalne smrti tam, eni in drugi.
Videl sem enega soldata, na katerega med spanjem pade granata iz drona, preveč.


Ker ti pa brcas žogo v prvi postavi???

Aha, se mi je zdelo...

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nirburu ::

Ne. Ampak nisem tak navijač.

Tudi nisem vojaški strateg. Ampak glede na trigger happiness ukrajincev z zahodnim orožjem, ne bi imelo smisel, da rusi postavijo poceni vabe, na katere lahko ukrajinci spraznijo zaloge?
Recimo remote pilotirane oklepnike v formaciji, lažna skladišča orožja itd.

luli ::

nirburu je izjavil:

Ne. Ampak nisem tak navijač.

Tudi nisem vojaški strateg. Ampak glede na trigger happiness ukrajincev z zahodnim orožjem, ne bi imelo smisel, da rusi postavijo poceni vabe, na katere lahko ukrajinci spraznijo zaloge?
Recimo remote pilotirane oklepnike v formaciji, lažna skladišča orožja itd.

Misliš podoben trik, ko so Ukrajinci nastavili WC školjke in pralne stroje, Rusi pa so navalili ko svinja na pumije?

fur80 ::

nirburu je izjavil:

Ne. Ampak nisem tak navijač.

Tudi nisem vojaški strateg. Ampak glede na trigger happiness ukrajincev z zahodnim orožjem, ne bi imelo smisel, da rusi postavijo poceni vabe, na katere lahko ukrajinci spraznijo zaloge?
Recimo remote pilotirane oklepnike v formaciji, lažna skladišča orožja itd.


Point tega napada je predvsem to, da 10 000 do 25 000 ruskih vojakov spravijo v kot, plus tega zaradi porušenih mostov Rusi od tu ne bi mogli odpeljat opreme, ter bi bili Ukrajinci bliže Krimu, ki bi ga lahko obstreljevali. Rusi so se tukaj enkrat že morali predati in to med ww2 ;)

kow ::

Ne vem, ce imajo Rusi izbiro, kot da branijo na polno (in nasprotna stran to razume). Ce pade Herson, je to zelo velika tako strateska, kot propagandna zmaga Ukrajine.

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TezkoDihanje ::

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/commen...
The most prominent collaborator assassinated since the Russian invasion : Aleksey Kovalyov, a Ukrainian lawmaker from Zelensky's party who switched sides to become deputy head of the Russian administration in Kherson, overseeing grain theft, has been gunned down in his home.

Voss ::

On Kherson
"We provoked the Russian troops into mass redeployment. Now the largest grouping of about 25 thousand is concentrated on the right bank and we have closed it."

"Now we are slowly and systematically reducing the combat capability of this group until they run away or start to surrender."

Verjetno bodo Rusi dodatno poslastico fasali preko noči.

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Voss ::

Predstavljajte si v tem trenutku biti Ruski vojak, na tuji zemlji, kjer si okupator. Sedaj pa slišiš okoli sebe same eksplozije in novice o močni ofenzivi, kjer besni Ukrajinci prihajajo po tvojo glavo.

gozdar1 ::

Rusija dobesedno že več kot 10 let dela na rušenju eu.

TezkoDihanje ::

Melitopol bi bil precej bolj žmohten cilj, pa še krimski most pride v doseg HIMARsov

https://twitter.com/VolodimirZelen1/sta...
Personnally, I've always thought that Kherson was a trap - and that the real target would be Melitopol. Wait for 30k+ forces to get stuck on the wrong side of the Dniepr and smash Russia's land bridge betweet Crimea and Donbass. That would end RU army. who knows, I'm no soldier

redtech ::

Preverite to paničarjenje, oborožimo eskime! :D

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TezkoDihanje ::

TezkoDihanje je izjavil:

Melitopol bi bil precej bolj žmohten cilj, pa še krimski most pride v doseg HIMARsov

https://twitter.com/VolodimirZelen1/sta...
Personnally, I've always thought that Kherson was a trap - and that the real target would be Melitopol. Wait for 30k+ forces to get stuck on the wrong side of the Dniepr and smash Russia's land bridge betweet Crimea and Donbass. That would end RU army. who knows, I'm no soldier


https://twitter.com/andersostlund/statu...
I find partisan activities in the occupied territories interesting. The areas with partisan activities grow and new ones are added. At what point can Ukraine contest the countryside between the frontline by Vasylivka and all the way down to the Black Sea? Source

PrimoZ_ ::

Ruski lastniki zahodnih superšportnikov so se zaradi razkazovanja bogastva znašli na tnalu ruske policije, politike in celo cerkve. Moskovčani so tako pretekli konec tedna opazovali, kako so možje v modrem po prestolnici iz prestižnih vozil dobesedno vlekli bogataše in jim nadevali lisice.

Ahahaha... :))

Voss ::

Explosions in Nova Kakhovka reported. Ukrainian artillery is pounding Russian positions all night.

CIA je lepo cel mesec ali dva pripravljala seznamček, kje se skrivajo ruske enote, sedaj pa bodo tolkli po njih še celo noč.

Voss ::

https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/156...

Da boste vedeli od danes naprej na kakšen način gori žito :))

Z pa v Kazakhstanu ni zaželjen :)

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/statu...

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fur80 ::

Voss je izjavil:

https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/156...

Da boste vedeli od danes naprej na kakšen način gori žito :))

Z pa v Kazakhstanu ni zaželjen :)

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/statu...


Ko je v Khersonu pokalo eno skladišče orožja celo noč, je oni Rus tiskovni predstavnik vojske na ruski TV mirno hladno izjavil, da je to humanitarna pomoč! :D

Voss ::

U.S. believes that Russia is firing artillery from around and in the vicinity of Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant: senior U.S. military official

zAkAj uKrAjInA oBsTrElJuJe dEle NuKlEaRkE.

Voss ::

Explosions are reported in the Belgorod region Russia.

Kajenje ni zdravo!

Pac-Man ::

Ohjej.

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/15...

Igor Strelkov, the man who started Russia's war in Ukraine in 2014, says Ukraine has broken through Russia's defenses in Kherson.

He says Ukraine is "surrounding and routing our forces east of Kherson between the Dnipro and Ingulets rivers."


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

Kherson, Russians on the run. [video]


https://twitter.com/wartranslated/statu...

Complete blackout in official Russian sources on the Ukrainian counter-offensive. A-tier Telegram sources (Colonelcassad, Solovyev) mostly laughing it off. B-tier sources (Girkin, Wagner) talk about things as they are.



https://twitter.com/brokenpixelua/statu...

The Chief of General Staff has asked all bloggers and influencers to "shut up" so you're unlikely would hear any definitive news until at least tomorrow. And tomorrow you definitely wouldn’t hear that Kherson is surrounded or liberated. And that’s totally ok.

But you can hear that Ukraine broke through the Russian defense for 10-15 kilometers deep and prepared a strategic bridgehead on the eastern bank of the Ingulets River and that will be a huge success! Especially if the breakthrough funnel is not only deep, but also wide.

In general, in my personal opinion, the main goal of this operation is not the capture of Kherson, but the defeat of the Russian group north of Kherson, right between the Ingulets and Dnipro rivers.

We must to stock up on patience and do not succumb to emotional swings.


https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/15...

Russia’s defense ministry acknowledges the Ukrainian counteroffensive is underway, but claims it failed and Ukraine is suffering “big losses”



https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/...

Ukrainian strikes against the Antonivsky brige appear to also have hit one of the nearby Russian barges - which were deployed after Ukrainian strikes made the bridge mostly unusable.



https://twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/15...

Reports of very heavy Ukrainian shelling in the city of Nova Kakhovka this evening. Multiple impacts around the hydroelectric plant. [video]

Multiple fires burning



https://twitter.com/yarko/status/156434...

President @ZelenskyyUa: Does anyone want to know what our plans are? 🧵

"You won't hear details from any truly accountable person. Because this is war. And so this [how things work] during the war."

"But the occupants should know: we will pursue them to the border. To our border, the line of which did not change. The occupants know this line well."

"If they want to survive, it is time for the Russian military to flee. Go home. If you are afraid to return to your home in Russia – well, let such occupants surrender, and we guarantee we will comply with all Geneva Conventions."

"If they do not listen to me, they will deal with our defenders, who will not stop until they liberate everything that belongs to Ukraine."

"And it is not something unique [you hear from me]. It's not something that [surprisingly] started. We have been talking about it for 187 days."


https://twitter.com/noclador/status/156...

Very little information coming out of Kherson Oblast for now. I know people, who're still in Kherson and so far Ukrainian troops aren't there... yet.

The key target for this offensive is to encircle & cut off the russian troops by taking the bridges across the Dnipro river.

This requires Ukrainian forces to advance 25-40 km (depending on which bridge).

Any Ukrainian breakthrough that comes near those distances, and russian forces will flee towards whatever bridge is nearest... creating giant traffic jams, which PzH 2000 and AHS Krab will smite.

Then the russians troops will try to run away on foot... dropping all their gear to lighten their load.

So I will be looking for how deep Ukraine's offensive strikes, and I hope that Ukrainian troops reach the bridges before the fleeing russians, as 20,000+ POWs are a disaster that even putin's propaganda can't lie away.

My thoughts are with the troops - and I hope artillery clears the way for them.

PS: Also very curious to see what will happen North of Melitopol in the next days.


Danes je dan ukrajinskih branilcev in obletnica pokola pri Ilovajsku. Obe strani tripata na take datume.



Zato je prepoved turističnih viz verjetno smiselna. Punca joka:

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

"All five are denied visas": The Russian woman told how her family was not allowed into Germany because the consuls believe that they will not return to Russia. [video]


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

Russians' ability to escape to the West is the domestic pressure release valve that keeps Putin's regime going. [video]


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

Kremlin propaganda outlet TASS releases clip of soldiers in Zimbabwe prepping to fight for Russia in Ukraine.

Extreme racism within Russian Army assures these guys will be absolute front line, used to absorb Ukrainian ammo before Wagner and Chechens move in. [video]


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

Russian telegram channels saying loss of Kherson may be imminent, Russians are taking huge casualties.

Stupid Russians shouldn't be in Ukraine



https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

How Russians could be so stupid to not understand that with a local population that wants you dead, all your movements, places you sleep, ammo depots.. will all be passed to Ukrainian Army.

Another pinpoint strike in Kherson on Russian troop concentration. [video]


WTF? Scholz, veš kaj je treba naredit :)

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

EU natgas prices down -18% on the day.


https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/15...

Russians attempt to strike a bridge in Mykolaiv in the middle of the day, full of civilians.

Luckily, Russian arms accuracy is shit. [video]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

pangro ::

TezkoDihanje je izjavil:

Melitopol bi bil precej bolj žmohten cilj, pa še krimski most pride v doseg HIMARsov

https://twitter.com/VolodimirZelen1/sta...
Personnally, I've always thought that Kherson was a trap - and that the real target would be Melitopol. Wait for 30k+ forces to get stuck on the wrong side of the Dniepr and smash Russia's land bridge betweet Crimea and Donbass. That would end RU army. who knows, I'm no soldier


Verjetno res ja. Itak je ta famozna ofenziva samo eno nabijanje:)) ampak rusi si pa ne morejo privoščiti da bi klicali ukrajinski blef in posledično morajo krepiti jug pa tudi če se ujamejo v past. Medtem pa ukrajinci z lahkoto kličejo ruski blef in bodo nadaljevali z razbijanjem po krimu.

pangro ::

se še kdo spomni ko nam je rusofiliada limala bivšega cia pripadnika ko je napovedoval da bo Odesa padla do jeseni brez uporabe težkega topništva, lepo ulica za ulico :))

BorutO ::

Najbolj smešno pri tej vojni je, da imajo Američani celotno Ukrajino in vsaj celoten vzhod Rusije pod nadzorom in jim nič ne uide. V vesolju ni pravil kje kakšen satelit leti (razen višine), Američani pa imajo na desetine najsodobnejših vohunskih satelitov in ostalih satelitov za vojaške namene. Američani vejo za vsakega ruskega vojaka, ki se plazi po Ukrajini. Če so Ukrajinci in Američani to rusko vojno dobro naštudirali, so ruse s svojo manjšo vojsko držali na distanci, v miru kopičili drone in ostalo vojaško tehniko ... potem pa udarijo z vso močjo, ki bi jo imeli, brez napovedane protiofenzive, ker Rus tudi nič ne govori, da bo povečal napade na neki del regije.

Najbolj smešno pa je, da Rusi niso sposobne uničiti Ukrajine in se pritožujejo čez Zahod in ZDA, da jim naj nehajo pošiljati orožje ... Kaj še le, če bi se Rusi lotili Zahod? Po mojem mnenju Zahod s svojo vojaško tehnologijo pojejo Ruse, o Američanih pa verjetno ne bi rad preveč besed izgubljal, ker so najbolj razviti in izkušeni iz težkih vojn ... Rusi ne bodo nikoli napadli zahoda, ker ga niso sposobni uničiti. Edino, kar bi rusom uspelo poslati na Zahod, je atomska bomba - to bi bil pa tudi edini uspeh rusije, da bi eliminiral čim več sovražnikov.

Rusi te vojne v Ukrajini ne bodo nikoli dobili, razen, če začnejo po Ukrajini metati atomske bombe in kemična oz. biološka orožja.

Pac-Man ::

Kolikor vidim, gre za dva Mig-29. Oba imata komercialna GPS sprejemnika, en na sredi tablico z navigacijo, drugi pa za GPS sprejemnikom nekaj kar zgleda kot neka avionika.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/15...

The Ukrainian Air Force has released video showing for the first time ever US-supplied AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missiles being fired from their MiG-29 jets.

They seem to be fired in pairs from the inboard pylons where R-27 AAM would otherwise be carried.


en komentar:

https://twitter.com/NOYFB7/status/15645...

These are the Slovenian "donated" NATO migs.
Haven't been plonked yet.

Firing the HARMs without a lock on, blind into the countryside.

Game changer.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

LightBit ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

These are the Slovenian "donated" NATO migs.

khm, Slovakian

Pac-Man ::

Tudi slovaški niso, ukrajinska kamuflaža.

Hard cope.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

LightBit ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tudi slovaški niso, ukrajinska kamuflaža.

Hard cope.

Lahko so posodobili svoje ali pa so prebarvali slovaške oz. kake druge donirane. Vsekakor pa niso slovenski.

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dude ::

Linki vsepovprek, sami verodostojni viri. Je kdo dejansko govoril z ukraincem in z rusom, pa izvedel stavri "iz prve roke"? ni videti. Ampak lets go internet!
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