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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

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Griffin R500 ::

Odlični napadi AFU:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/m7OZEYt4...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Q5yRwfWg...


....pridni ukrajinci. Upam da jim uspe, da se iztrebijo.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/K6o3GnXVHbIg/

Zmajc ::

Bravo ugotovil si da so v vojni žrtve, še kaj?

Tu maš primer kako se rusi iztrebljajo.

https://twitter.com/zloy_odessit/status...


Tu imaš napredovanje ruske vojske v zadnjih 7 mesecih:

https://twitter.com/bradyafr/status/159...

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Zmajc ::

Rusiki mobiki v akciji:

https://t.me/gistapapapa/52149

mackilla ::

Griffin R500 je izjavil:

gozdar1 je izjavil:

Težava rusije je v bistvu sila enostavna želijo biti imperij brez podlage v ekonomiji in zato bolj sodijo v ligo bivših evropskih. Samo, da se s tem nočejo sprijazniti in še kar sanjajo, da so dejasnko sz.

Želiš povedat, da še vedno verjameš pravljicam za lahko noč o pristanku na luni, ameriških sanjah in demokraciji.
Priden suženj.

Še en,ki ne verjame,da so pristali na Luni. Chemtrailsi,reptili... Tu je dokaz,da so rusofili tudi glavni sledilci teorij zarot in posledično hvaležna tarča ruske propagande.

Pac-Man ::

video, OP je dopisnik pri NPR

https://twitter.com/langfittnpr/status/...

Ukrainian colonel I’ve interviewed in Kherson & Mykolaiv, finally returns to liberate his village & his childhood home after Russians forced to retreat.
Scenes like this have played out across Kherson this weekend. Video courtesy of Col. Roman Kostenko


Roman Kostenko @ Wikipedia

Roman Vasyliovych Kostenko (Ukrainian: Роман Васильович Костенко; born 21 October 1983) is a Ukrainian military commander and politician currently serving as a People's Deputy of Ukraine from the Holos party list since 29 August 2019. A member of the Cyborgs, Kostenko fought at the Second Battle of Donetsk Airport during the War in Donbas, for which he was awarded the Order of Bohdan Khmelnytsky, as well as the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. He is a secretary of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security, Defense, and Intelligence. His military call sign is "Thunder" (Ukrainian: Гром, romanized: Hrom).

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In July 2019, in a 2019 interview to the Tsensor.NET website, Kostenko announced he was joining the Holos party, campaigning on a policy of bringing an end to the Russo-Ukrainian War and making Ukraine a "successful and comfortable country for life." He additionally cited the lack of victory in the war as the justification for his joining politics, and refused to rule out the possibility of becoming Minister of Defense. He additionally criticised the political establishment and welcomed anti-establishment figures as a break from what he referred to as the "political elite."[2]


v zadnjem odstavku naveden intervju, strojni prevod:

https://censor.net/ru/resonance/3135534...

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- Did you have a feeling that there would be a war in Ukraine?

- We were always being prepared for hostilities. I knew that I would be at war, but I did not think that it would be in our country. Even at the military institute, we were told that there might be a war in Crimea. We were not going to war with Russia, we were told about the possibility of secession of the Crimean Tatars and that NATO, like America, are our enemies. We adopted the experience of the Chechen war, which took place in the mountains.

Friendship with Russia was imposed on us, and we considered it an ally. And the incredible happened. The person whom you considered close all your life, who went through various trials side by side with you, unexpectedly takes the most precious thing from you. This is incredible betrayal on the one hand. On the other hand, I was surprised by the people who were nearby, with whom we served together, and they took the passports of a neighboring country and took the side of the invader. This really impressed me. A person was faithful to the oath of one country, graduated from universities here and instantly became a citizen of another. I don't understand that. Professionals who were with us in the same system worked to make the country independent and whole, and then went to work in another country. I know guys from Sevastopol's "Alfa" who defected to Russia and died in Chechnya. No country will tolerate traitors, so they were transferred to other directions: someone to the Far East, someone to the Caucasus. They are doing things there that I am sure the soldiers of their own country do not want to do, that is why Russia uses defectors. A person who cheated once will cheat the second and the third time. It is better to bake them immediately.

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- Isn't it annoying that people from television, singers, and showmen got into politics instead of professionals?

- Now the country is forming a political elite. What was formed in the 90s has become overgrown with crime, schemes and corruption. In order to break the old policy that drags us to the bottom, robs the country and leads to destructiveness, I am ready to believe in new people, even in showmen. The main thing is their desire to change something. During the war, I more than once saw people who did not understand anything about military affairs, the so-called jackets, who graduated only from the military departments of civilian universities, but they came to military units and units and fought better than some trained officers. To their proposals, the military said that it was not possible, but they did and achieved victory. A person who has a desire to change something will do it. But I don't have a goal to please absolutely all voters either. Politics is a way of compromises. I plan to work only for the benefit of people, but I am ready for the fact that not everyone will be satisfied with my actions. Churchill said some very wise words: you will never make it all the way if you stop to throw a stone at every dog ​​that barks at you.



Če prebereš intervju in greš skozi fotke v njem, ti postane kristalno jasno, zakaj Rusija puši. Enostavno ni profesionalcev takega kova, vse je neka post sovjetska beda gašena s hektolitri alkohola.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Pac-Man ::

to

https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/15...

Russian state TV’s still trying to put a positive spin on retreat. Kiselev: “We’ll get Kherson back. Withdrawal across the Dnipro is tactical, rational, even if deep inside we don’t want to accept it. We preserve our fighting ability & improve logistics to supply new lines.”


in to

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu...

When the troops strategically withdraw back into Russia proper, the supply logistics are going to be absolutely stunning. NATO will capitulate there and then, and Putin will maybe accept Uncle Sam's surrender.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Matejjjjj ::

pangro je izjavil:

MadMicka je izjavil:

pangro, pa si ti sploh kdaj vidu zemljevid? https://liveuamap.com/
Ne rabijo prečkat reke. Enostavno gredo na Melitopol, tam so že na levem bregu...


Verjetno imajo rusi že tam skoncentrirane enote ker je ta gib res očiten ukrajinci so do sedaj vžgali tam kjer so rusi najšibkejši, dobil naj bi tudi plovila s strani amerike, levi breg bo jeben za branit, bomo videli kje bo ua vžgala.

Glede na gdp ameri sploh niso toliko radodarni v primerjavi z drugimi državami tko da rezerve s strani amerike je še dovolj, ameri se šele ogrevajo:D


ne želim več razpravljati v levo desmo filozofskih debatah niti krvoločno navijati. ostanimo pri strategiji in taktiki. torej, če zadeve so res take kot so, potem sem zadel. napisal sem, da nihče od nas ne bo pravilno napovedal kje bo šlo naprej. in, ni…. če so se izkrcali na tistem močvarnem polotoku, je to presenečenje za vse. kontrolirajo oba brega ob izlivu v morje, njihova prisotnist veže nase ruske enote, zaradi artiljerijske podpore pa so za ruse dejansko nedosegljivi. ob neupoštevanju uporabe ruskega strateškega orožja za tak cilj… poznavalec te pokrajine mije rekel, tam okoli se ničesar ne da branit. artiljerija bo potolkla vse. Vprasanje je zdaj, ali ima Putin še zadosti politične moči, da to zaustavi... V posmeh piscem, ki so v užaljenosti napisali, da Kherson ni stratesko pomemben... bruka..., upam, da folk ki pise take nima velikega vpliva na življenje v nasi drzavi in na naše odločitve... Iz Rusijo prihajajo klici na pomoč, iščejo se veze, ljudje ne želijo na fronto umreti.

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pangro ::

Ja ta polotok je zanimiv samo tja ne moreš oklepna vozila pripeljati po moje je sta oba bregova preširoka za kšne pontonske mostove ne vem samo malo špelukiram? Je pa res ja tam je nemogoče branit ua artilerija bo počedla vse in se lahko tam izkrcajo ampak naprej pa samo peš. Zdaj ne vem kakšna plovila imajo na voljo če so zmožna prepeljati oklepna vozila bi blo top in bi se lahko tam naredilo izhodišče za naprej rusom pa drugega ne bi preostalo kot da se umikajo ali pa svoje posiljajo v klavnico. Ta gib bi bil res presenecenje za ruse in za vse.

clancy ::

Zmajc je izjavil:

Bravo ugotovil si da so v vojni žrtve, še kaj?

Tu maš primer kako se rusi iztrebljajo.

https://twitter.com/zloy_odessit/status...


Če prav vidim, s mobiki bili poskriti kar v kurniku... heh:))

avani ::

Ampak kolikor se spomnim, so ta polotok že poskušali zavzeti enrkat avgusta/ septembra. Takrat so Rusi poročali o napadu kommadosov, ki so ga uspešno odbili. Takrat se mi je zdelo milo rečeno nenavadno, da bi ukr silili na tisto slepo črevo, vendar sedaj ko lahko iz Stanislava zadanejo katerokoli tarčo v radiju 50km, je že bili smiselno. Občutek imam, da bo do čez spravili le nekaj buggijev in džipov, da se bodo do šli hitre partizanske napade v zaledje (predvsem na skladišča in vojake na počitku) in nato umik. Brez zavzemanja terena. Teren je raven, rahlo močvirnat, in hitrost je vse

fur80 ::

avani je izjavil:

Ampak kolikor se spomnim, so ta polotok že poskušali zavzeti enrkat avgusta/ septembra. Takrat so Rusi poročali o napadu kommadosov, ki so ga uspešno odbili. Takrat se mi je zdelo milo rečeno nenavadno, da bi ukr silili na tisto slepo črevo, vendar sedaj ko lahko iz Stanislava zadanejo katerokoli tarčo v radiju 50km, je že bili smiselno. Občutek imam, da bo do čez spravili le nekaj buggijev in džipov, da se bodo do šli hitre partizanske napade v zaledje (predvsem na skladišča in vojake na počitku) in nato umik. Brez zavzemanja terena. Teren je raven, rahlo močvirnat, in hitrost je vse


Se mi zdi, da je bilo to pri Zaporožju, pri NEK-u.

fur80 ::

pangro je izjavil:

Ja ta polotok je zanimiv samo tja ne moreš oklepna vozila pripeljati po moje je sta oba bregova preširoka za kšne pontonske mostove ne vem samo malo špelukiram? Je pa res ja tam je nemogoče branit ua artilerija bo počedla vse in se lahko tam izkrcajo ampak naprej pa samo peš. Zdaj ne vem kakšna plovila imajo na voljo če so zmožna prepeljati oklepna vozila bi blo top in bi se lahko tam naredilo izhodišče za naprej rusom pa drugega ne bi preostalo kot da se umikajo ali pa svoje posiljajo v klavnico. Ta gib bi bil res presenecenje za ruse in za vse.


Ukrajinci morajo tukaj pritiskat, da Ruse spravijo od Khersona vsaj za 40km kolko nese topništvo, plus tega, da Rusi ne bi te enote premestili v Donbas na fronto, kot naj bi si želeli ruski genrali.

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fur80 ::

Ruski specialci iz vaške gostilne, verjetno direkt iza šanka!

https://twitter.com/herooftheday10/stat...

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Zmajc ::

avani je izjavil:

Ampak kolikor se spomnim, so ta polotok že poskušali zavzeti enrkat avgusta/ septembra. Takrat so Rusi poročali o napadu kommadosov, ki so ga uspešno odbili. Takrat se mi je zdelo milo rečeno nenavadno, da bi ukr silili na tisto slepo črevo, vendar sedaj ko lahko iz Stanislava zadanejo katerokoli tarčo v radiju 50km, je že bili smiselno. Občutek imam, da bo do čez spravili le nekaj buggijev in džipov, da se bodo do šli hitre partizanske napade v zaledje (predvsem na skladišča in vojake na počitku) in nato umik. Brez zavzemanja terena. Teren je raven, rahlo močvirnat, in hitrost je vse


Ukrajinci so v zadnjem paketu od američanov dobili 40 novih oklepljenih čolnov. Po moje biojo to specialci v nočnih akcijah veselo koristili da delajo na levem bregu štalo.

Pac-Man ::

Ni to fino, Putin izda dekre, da je treba plačat, ti kot guverner moraš pa nekje napraskat ta denar, sicer si baraba in izdajalec, ki mu ni mar za ljudi.

Stroške vojne kot kaže skrivajo po regionalnih proračunih.

https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/...

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A large portion of the cost of mobilisation is being paid by Russia's regions. Many are paying a one-time allowance to the men and their families to enable them to cover the cost of the men's absence. The Russian federal budget covers the war's direct costs.

On 19 October 2022, Putin ordered the regions to give a 195,000 ruble ($3,220) payment to the mobilised. Many regions were already providing support payments, ranging from from 50,000 rubles ($825) in the Kostroma region to 300,000 ($5,000) in the Sakhalin region.

An investigation by the independent Russian publication "Important Stories" (iStories) has found that 26 regions have allocated a total of 11 billion rubles ($181.6m) for this. However, the amount allocated is not enough to cover all the men who were planned to be mobilised.

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Additionally, the regions are covering the cost of hot meals and education for the children of the mobilised, transportation of the mobilised to training ranges and the front, and medical care such as vaccination against various infectious diseases.

A big gap has been the provision of equipment: mobiks have had to spend large sums to buy their own equipment, even including body armour and helmets. Spiralling costs have meant this can cost more than the entire mobilisation support payment.

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The regions were previously being made to pay to compensate the families of dead soldiers, even before mobilisation began, and to sponsor reconstruction work in the occupied territories of Ukraine. This has already cost them billions of rubles.

iStories estimates that in total only 50 of Russia's 85 regions have already spent more than 22 billion rubles ($363.3m) on war costs – equivalent to the budget of some entire regions. The real figure is certainly higher as 35 regions have not released financial data.

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Zmajc ::

Tudi oprema ki jo mobiki dobijo med mobilizacijo se zelo razlikuje od Regije do Regije, enim ne dajo skoraj nič, drugje spet dobijo skoraj popolno opremo. Verjetno vprašanje kje bolj kradejo med nabavo robe.

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Pac-Man ::

V Španščini, ampak se razume

https://twitter.com/andriy_ht/status/15...


rakun se nanaša na tale video

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...

While retreating from Kherson Russians stole animals from the local zoo.

A stolen racoon caused the most talk - on the video it is fighting with all his strength.


BTW, taka kraja je vojni zločin

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customar...

The prohibition of pillage is a long-standing rule of customary international law already recognized in the Lieber Code, the Brussels Declaration and the Oxford Manual.[1] Pillage is prohibited under all circumstances under the Hague Regulations.[2] Pillage is identified as a war crime in the Report of the Commission on Responsibility set up after the First World War, as well as by the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg) established following the Second World War.[3] The Fourth Geneva Convention also prohibits pillage.[4] Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “pillaging a town or place, even when taken by assault,” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts.[5]

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Pillage (or plunder) is defined in Black’s Law Dictionary as “the forcible taking of private property by an invading or conquering army from the enemy’s subjects”.[23] The Elements of Crimes of the Statute of the International Criminal Court specifies that the appropriation must be done “for private or personal use”.[24] As such, the prohibition of pillage is a specific application of the general principle of law prohibiting theft.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

tikitoki ::

Zalostno, da je toliko mrtvih. Dejmo Putino en kol, pa Zelenskemu en kol, pa tisti, k pride ziv iz ringa, zmaga:).

Pac-Man ::

vse po planu...

https://twitter.com/business/status/159...

BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov taken to hospital after arriving at the G-20 summit in Bali
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

enadvq ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

vse po planu...

https://twitter.com/business/status/159...

BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov taken to hospital after arriving at the G-20 summit in Bali


Upajmo, da ni kaj trivialnega.

pangro ::

Me pa zanima kako bodo pogajanja izgledala zdaj ko se ve da je ruska vojska poplnoma zaretardirala in to z neogreto ameriko. Mislim da se z lahkoto določenim ruskim veljakom podeli neke vrste imuniteto toliko da preprečijo eventuelno uporabo nukic in se zahteva izročitev vojnih zločincev vse od surovikina do putarda v zameno se pa ukine sankcije in se rusijo vrne nazaj v civilizacijo.

mojsterleo ::

fur80 je izjavil:


Se mi zdi, da je bilo to pri Zaporožju, pri NEK-u.

A misliš tole: :))
Russian Ministry of Defense passes off an old bridge pylon as a destroyed “barge carrying a Ukrainian landing force”

The Russian Defense Ministry has reported on a major success of Russian troops in Ukraine - the destruction of a barge carrying a special operations landing force of the Ukrainian intelligence that was trying to seize the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. The ministry's official Telegram channel published a video showing helicopters firing at an object they called a barge.

The object being fired at indeed resembles a barge from a distance, but without deck superstructures, i.e. a non-self-propelled one. Such a barge can only move with the help of a tug or pusher, but neither is present in the shot. What was the point of landing on an unguided barge, it is unclear.

The Telegram channel Grey Zone was able to identify the “barge.” It was the pylon of a bridge over the Dnipro near Energodar, built in 1943 by the German occupiers and blown up six months later by German engineers during retreat. In that form the rest of the bridge had been standing for 78 years, until the victorious strike of the Russian helicopters.

We can only say that Russian troops have finally achieved tangible success in the denazification of Ukraine: they have damaged an object built by the Nazis during the occupation, albeit unused and unnecessary to anyone.

https://theins.ru/en/antifake/255070

pangro ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

vse po planu...

https://twitter.com/business/status/159...

BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov taken to hospital after arriving at the G-20 summit in Bali


Putardov čaj ali pa ukrajinska mosad akcija.

Pac-Man ::

enadvq je izjavil:

Upajmo, da ni kaj trivialnega.



Srček ne dela več lepo tika taka

https://apnews.com/article/europe-indon...

Three Indonesian government and medical officials told The Associated Press that the Russian diplomat was being treated on the resort island.

All declined to be identified as they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Two of the people said Lavrov was being treated for a heart condition.


Zgleda je resno

https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/statu...

Zakharova says it’s a fake

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Zmajc ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

The prohibition of pillage is a long-standing rule of customary international law already recognized in the Lieber Code, the Brussels Declaration and the Oxford Manual.[1] Pillage is prohibited under all circumstances under the Hague Regulations.[2] Pillage is identified as a war crime in the Report of the Commission on Responsibility set up after the First World War, as well as by the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg) established following the Second World War.[3] The Fourth Geneva Convention also prohibits pillage.[4] Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “pillaging a town or place, even when taken by assault,” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts.[5]


Za Ruse je že od nekdaj znano da na zasedenih ozemljih pokradejo in odpeljejo vse kar ni pribito na tla. In na to so še ponosni.

Anney ::

Zmajc je izjavil:

Pac-Man je izjavil:

The prohibition of pillage is a long-standing rule of customary international law already recognized in the Lieber Code, the Brussels Declaration and the Oxford Manual.[1] Pillage is prohibited under all circumstances under the Hague Regulations.[2] Pillage is identified as a war crime in the Report of the Commission on Responsibility set up after the First World War, as well as by the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg) established following the Second World War.[3] The Fourth Geneva Convention also prohibits pillage.[4] Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “pillaging a town or place, even when taken by assault,” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts.[5]


Za Ruse je že od nekdaj znano da na zasedenih ozemljih pokradejo in odpeljejo vse kar ni pribito na tla. In na to so še ponosni.


Še rakune in ostali život.
https://twitter.com/Tetiana11504596/sta...
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
https://twitter.com/CKOPO_BECHA/status/...
Obstajata samo dva načina kako živeti svoje življenje:
Prvi pravi, da nič ni čudež, drugi pa, da vse je čudež.

Zmajc ::

On President Zelensky's visit to liberated Kherson, Peskov commented "no comments", - adding that "Kherson is still Russia"


:))

enadvq ::

Evo poldi, tu so tvoji cudežni mobiki, ki bodo spremenili potek vojne v... Ukrajinsko korist :))

Zmajc ::

Lepa analiza Petra Zeihana

The Beginning of the Fall of Crimea

mackilla ::

Zmajc je izjavil:

On President Zelensky's visit to liberated Kherson, Peskov commented "no comments", - adding that "Kherson is still Russia"


:))

Kdaj bo Putin obiskal Mariupol ali Severodonetsk? A ga je strah?

fikus_ ::

Ne si želeti tega, ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

enadvq ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Ne si želeti tega, ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU.


Tut če bi bila, verjemi, da ne bi reskiral obiska. Ga pospravi taprvi partizan.

Pac-Man ::

O M-80, Armata je verjetno nekaj podobnega.

https://old.delo.si/znanje/izobrazevanj...

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Ob veliki zagnanosti in pretiranem optimizmu si leta 1969 verjetno nihče ni predstavljal, da bo do prave serijske proizvodnje minilo še več kot deset let. Šele leta 1974 so bila zaključena testiranja vozila in sprejeta odločitev o izdelavi nulte serije vozil, za kar bi potrebovali dodatnih 18 mesecev. Ker pa je bila leta 1975 predvidena velika parada ob 30-letnici zmage nad fašizmom, sta politični in vojaški vrh zahtevala, da se na paradi pojavi tudi novo oklepno vozilo. Z velikim trudom je bilo tako za parado pripravljenih prvih sedem vozil iz začetne serije, katerim so pridružili še tri prototipna vozila. Cena posameznega vozila te serije je bila zaradi zahtevnosti in številnih težav pri proizvodnji nekajkrat večja od tiste v serijski proizvodnji, toda za manifestacijo vojaške moči denar nikoli ni predstavljal pretirane ovire.

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

fikus_ ::

enadvq je izjavil:

fikus_ je izjavil:

Ne si želeti tega, ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU.


Tut če bi bila, verjemi, da ne bi reskiral obiska. Ga pospravi taprvi partizan.


Kaj ti ni jasno v "ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU" .

To ne bi bil obisk v stilu maršala Tita, ki v odprtem blindiranem avtomobilu paradira po ulici.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

fur80 ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

enadvq je izjavil:

fikus_ je izjavil:

Ne si želeti tega, ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU.


Tut če bi bila, verjemi, da ne bi reskiral obiska. Ga pospravi taprvi partizan.


Kaj ti ni jasno v "ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU" .

To ne bi bil obisk v stilu maršala Tita, ki v odprtem blindiranem avtomobilu paradira po ulici.


Se vama zdi, da je to človek, ki gre rad med ljudi in se druži?

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Pac-Man ::

Medtem je nakokan judovski nacist, ki se vsak dan javlja iz bunkerja na Poljskem, obiskal novo zavzete teritorije Rusije :D

President Zelensky waves to residents during visit to newly-liberated city of Kherson
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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enadvq ::

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Ne si želeti tega, ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU.


Tut če bi bila, verjemi, da ne bi reskiral obiska. Ga pospravi taprvi partizan.


Kaj ti ni jasno v "ker to pomeni, da je UA pod nadzorom RU" .

To ne bi bil obisk v stilu maršala Tita, ki v odprtem blindiranem avtomobilu paradira po ulici.


Sej obstajajo tudi atgm in podobne zadeve, ne rabimo snajperja na 2km lol.
Enivej, rusi so si nardili tako sramoto da bogpomagaj.

Zmajc ::

enadvq je izjavil:

Enivej, rusi so si nardili tako sramoto da bogpomagaj.


Kaj bo šele ko pade Krim.

pangro ::

Počasi tolažb zmanjkuje oz samo še fanatiki se tolažijo in pletejo scenarije, ukrajinci so vzpostavil trend in nihče ga ne more več zanikat razen fanatikov. Vprasanje kako bodo rusi spreobrnil zadevo? Sploh če pomislimo da je američan še neogret.

pangro ::

Zmajc je izjavil:

Lepa analiza Petra Zeihana

The Beginning of the Fall of Crimea



Se spomnim Zeihana iz začetka invazije je bil prepričan v končno rusko zmago pa je vmes naredil nek razumski reassessment, itak, se zgodi zajebeš z analizo marsikdo se je na zahodu ker so tok pral mozak o tej famozni ruski vojski ampak potem se prilagodiš trendu in iščeš odogovore v novem toku dogajanj.

MadMicka ::

Krim ne bo padu vojaško. Samo dva "mostišča" sta speljana na Krim, Ukrajina nima mornarice, tudi, če se prebije čez, ne bo mogla kar tako dostavljati opreme, orožja in vojakov. Rusi pa imajo še vedno več topov kot Ukrajinci in lahko tolčejo po tistih dveh odsekih dan in noč. Izgube bi bile katastrofalne. Pa še, na Krimu živi ogromno Rusov, to je čisto druga zgodba. Zahod ne bi smel vojaško podpirati Ukrajine za napad na Krim. To je treba rešiti za pogajalsko mizo. Je treba bit realen.

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Tidule ::

Stvar je v tem, da na drugi strani Krima ni nič boljše. In če bo enkrat krimski most v dometu HIMARS, bodo tudi rusi imeli velike težave z oskrbo. Se pa strinjam, da ko enkrat pride do vprašanja Krima so stvari precej bolj kompleksne kot na celini, samo po drugi strani pa je malo verjetno, da se mu bodo Ukrajinci, glede na dosedanje uspehe, kar tako odpovedali.

pangro ::

Če je kateremu realnost butnila je rusom, ostali smo se pa samo prilagodili. Tisti topovi pa tudi ne bodo ostali neizvani da bodo kr tolkli po tistih dveh mostiščih, kdo ima zdaj več možnosti da uniči nasprotniku artilerijo pa logistiko? Pa ne pozabimo še na f16 pridejo slej ko prej.

kow ::

MadMicka je izjavil:

Krim ne bo padu vojaško. Samo dva "mostišča" sta speljana na Krim, Ukrajina nima mornarice, tudi, če se prebije čez, ne bo mogla kar tako dostavljati opreme, orožja in vojakov. Rusi pa imajo še vedno več topov kot Ukrajinci in lahko tolčejo po tistih dveh odsekih dan in noč. Izgube bi bile katastrofalne. Pa še, na Krimu živi ogromno Rusov, to je čisto druga zgodba. Zahod ne bi smel vojaško podpirati Ukrajine za napad na Krim. To je treba rešiti za pogajalsko mizo. Je treba bit realen.


Da na Krimu zivi "ogromno" Rusov je irrelevantno. Kajti ce je to faktor, je potem potrebno vojno nadaljevati in osvoboditi Cecene, Dagestance itd. itd.
Da mora vsak Rus ziveti v maticni drzavi, je temelj fasizma ruske drzave. Ne pozabimo, da je na Krimu ogromno Rusov predvsem zaradi etnicnega ciscenja pred, dokoncno pa med 2. svetovno vojno. Krim naj dobi poseben status - recimo pravica do visokega izobrazevanja v ruskem jeziku ipd.
Predvsem pa je pomembno, da tam ni vec vojaske baze, ki bi v prihodnje ogrozala ukrajinsko drzavnost.

Ce bodo Ukrajinci se naprej izboljsevali (proti)zracne sile, bodo v prednosti, ceprav napadajo. V primeru, da so Rusi v zraku enakovredni, pa za Ukrajince ne bo enostavno.

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Malidelničar ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Medtem je nakokan judovski nacist, ki se vsak dan javlja iz bunkerja na Poljskem, obiskal novo zavzete teritorije Rusije :D

President Zelensky waves to residents during visit to newly-liberated city of Kherson


To je fake, ker če pazljivo pogledaš lahko vidiš odsev svetlobe, ki se odbija od lesenih kulis, prevlečenih s posebno folijo, ki naj bi predstavljale stavbe (0:02-0:04).
Potem pa če pazljivo pogledaš so v prvi vrsti zraven statisti, v ozadju pa imaš holograme ljudi, ki naj bi predstavljali množico.
Tam če pogledaš ko zumira na napise nad trgovino (0:29-0:30) so napisi v ruščini in prevajalec za kulise sploh ni pravilno prevedel. To dokazuje, da v bistvu snemajo iz skrivne lokacije na Poljskem in so samo postavili kulise, da naredijo pač iluzijo, kot da naj bi Zelensky bil v Hersonu.
Verjetno so Američani nad lokacijo zaprli zračni prostor, da noben ne more slikat ali pa prileteti z dronom. Verjetno so postavili kulise v kakšnem poljskem narodnem parku, stran od ljudi.
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.

Kitajc01 ::

fikus_ ::

Tidule je izjavil:

Stvar je v tem, da na drugi strani Krima ni nič boljše. In če bo enkrat krimski most v dometu HIMARS, bodo tudi rusi imeli velike težave z oskrbo. Se pa strinjam, da ko enkrat pride do vprašanja Krima so stvari precej bolj kompleksne kot na celini, samo po drugi strani pa je malo verjetno, da se mu bodo Ukrajinci, glede na dosedanje uspehe, kar tako odpovedali.


Ce ne veš, cestni del je porušen, železnica z omejitvijo obremenitve.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.

enadvq ::

MadMicka je izjavil:

Krim ne bo padu vojaško. Samo dva "mostišča" sta speljana na Krim, Ukrajina nima mornarice, tudi, če se prebije čez, ne bo mogla kar tako dostavljati opreme, orožja in vojakov. Rusi pa imajo še vedno več topov kot Ukrajinci in lahko tolčejo po tistih dveh odsekih dan in noč. Izgube bi bile katastrofalne. Pa še, na Krimu živi ogromno Rusov, to je čisto druga zgodba. Zahod ne bi smel vojaško podpirati Ukrajine za napad na Krim. To je treba rešiti za pogajalsko mizo. Je treba bit realen.


Če bodo že šli nad Krim, bodo najprej prekinili celinsko povezavo v smeri Melitopola, oz tam okoli. Kot prvo sicer ne vem kolk topov ima rusija, ampak municije jim vsekakor primanjkuje(severna koreja press). Poleg tega ima Ukrajina himars(84km dosega) rusija na to sploh nima odgovora. Imajo excalibur granate natančne na 1m pri 48km dosega, rusi nimajo nič primerljivega, imajo pa vse cevi artilerije zgonjene od vseh granat. Sekajo na +-500m od tarče. Slej ko prej bodo rusi s krima spokali, ker jim bodo (spet) odklopili vodo. Misliš, da ko bodo pred Krimom bo pa Biden klical, ej ustavte se zdej, Krim je holyland pa to pa take, lol.


primoz4p ::

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Straight Calls 6 - Ukraine capitulation is on the horizon

enadvq ::

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Straight Calls with Douglas Macgregor
Straight Calls 6 - Ukraine capitulation is on the horizon


Uf ja, polno copiuma za ruskiče. Sem nehal poslušat, ko je začel razlagat da je razmerje med ubitimi/ranjenimi 6:1 v rusko korist. :))
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