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Predator X ::
i3 6100 4.5GHz z hitrejšim DDR4 zna bit za budget overclocker. Vendar boš zapravil več kot pa za i5 6500...
Ker ima kabylake same perf je za gamerja kuputu i3 7350K, bedarija.
Lp
Ker ima kabylake same perf je za gamerja kuputu i3 7350K, bedarija.
Lp
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Dr_M ::
Drage niso, je pa slaba izbira.
http://geizhals.eu/?cat=mbp4_1151&xf=49...
http://geizhals.eu/?cat=mbp4_1151&xf=49...
The reason why most of society hates conservatives and
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the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
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yxiz ::
ko tale kaby lake smiselna nadgradnja na mojega i5 4570, ki sicer lepo deluje, ali naj počakam še kakšno generacijo naprej?
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Isotropic ::
ko tale kaby lake smiselna nadgradnja na mojega i5 4570, ki sicer lepo deluje, ali naj počakam še kakšno generacijo naprej?
počakaj vsaj do naslednjega kaby lake (pač optimizacija ice lake) ali celo enega po temu. nikakor pa ne upgradat, dokler ne pride pcie 4.0, ker se nekaj govori, da bodo tezave z zdruzljivostjo za nazaj.
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DarwiN ::
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
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DarwiN ::
Dostava 2-5 delovnih dni, come on now.
Razen če lažejo oz. mlatijo prazno slamo.
Čez teden dni lahko že furaš zadevo na 7Ghz. ;)
Razen če lažejo oz. mlatijo prazno slamo.
Čez teden dni lahko že furaš zadevo na 7Ghz. ;)
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
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DarwiN ::
What do you think, smartass?
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You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
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Predator X ::
Dostava 2-5 delovnih dni, come on now.
Razen če lažejo oz. mlatijo prazno slamo.
Čez teden dni lahko že furaš zadevo na 7Ghz. ;)
ln2 itak 24/7. Sure menjaš plate vsak teden.
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Isotropic ::
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10932/kab...
a mi lahko en pove po domače, kaj bo to boljše za uporabnika (latence...., ne zelo majhna velikost diskov)?
sploh če greš gledat komentarje, je zanimivo (navadni ssd nimajo šans).
če se bo obregnil kdo ob 16gb, se spomnimo, da so bli včasih tut za ssd caching taki diski.
a mi lahko en pove po domače, kaj bo to boljše za uporabnika (latence...., ne zelo majhna velikost diskov)?
sploh če greš gledat komentarje, je zanimivo (navadni ssd nimajo šans).
če se bo obregnil kdo ob 16gb, se spomnimo, da so bli včasih tut za ssd caching taki diski.
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pegasus ::
Intel z 3d xpoint (aka optane) veliko obljubla, a še ni dostavil nič obljubljenega. Uradno (razen nekaj patentov) se še niti ne ve, kako točno ta reč deluje. Osebno bi jo najraje videl kot nvdimm, a obstajajo indici, da še ni čisto zrela za to vlogo. Zato je smiselna začetna umestitev v segment mobilnih in prenosnih naprav.
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Isotropic ::
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/se...
tole je tudi zanimivo
They say Intel's in the most precarious time ever in its existence.
Employees blame Krzanich as the main cause, he's impatient and eager and keeps changing/canceling projects before they get anywhere.
Many employees/engineers got fired in recent times and they say Krzanich treats engineers (replacing them) like supermarket cashiers, many new hires are inexperienced and not getting trained well enough. The mood in the company is at an all-time low and many employees are in fear for their jobs.
Murphy Renduchintala is said to actually be a glimmer of hope in the whole mess as since he's been brought on he's been able to focus R&D properly and actually has technical background and makes decisions that engineers are able to get behind on. Some say they're hoping he'll replace Krzanich as CEO once they hope he'll get the boot from the board.
10nm is suffering all kinds of problems, both technical as well as management problems. The first samples that got in apparently were extremely disappointing in performance, not to talk about yields.
Kaby-Lake as well as Cannon-Lake were supposedly late designs just to save face and management was just hoping AMD wouldn't compete. Cannon-Lake is said to bring almost no architectural improvements.
10nm will sample in late 2017 but production won't happen till 2018.
Intel has nothing concrete till 2019.
Long-term, Intel is said to be very worried about x86 as ARM is gaining ever more. If they can't keep Apple happy in the Macbooks that would be the first sign of the decline of x86.
Because of the above, they say that they have one CPU project which can do hybrid x86/ARM execution and they say they'll have the first prototype wafers with this within the next few months.
There's an Intel CPU AMD GPU MCM in the works.
lol
čeprav je možno, da je samo tech demo oz. proof of concept
tole je tudi zanimivo
They say Intel's in the most precarious time ever in its existence.
Employees blame Krzanich as the main cause, he's impatient and eager and keeps changing/canceling projects before they get anywhere.
Many employees/engineers got fired in recent times and they say Krzanich treats engineers (replacing them) like supermarket cashiers, many new hires are inexperienced and not getting trained well enough. The mood in the company is at an all-time low and many employees are in fear for their jobs.
Murphy Renduchintala is said to actually be a glimmer of hope in the whole mess as since he's been brought on he's been able to focus R&D properly and actually has technical background and makes decisions that engineers are able to get behind on. Some say they're hoping he'll replace Krzanich as CEO once they hope he'll get the boot from the board.
10nm is suffering all kinds of problems, both technical as well as management problems. The first samples that got in apparently were extremely disappointing in performance, not to talk about yields.
Kaby-Lake as well as Cannon-Lake were supposedly late designs just to save face and management was just hoping AMD wouldn't compete. Cannon-Lake is said to bring almost no architectural improvements.
10nm will sample in late 2017 but production won't happen till 2018.
Intel has nothing concrete till 2019.
Long-term, Intel is said to be very worried about x86 as ARM is gaining ever more. If they can't keep Apple happy in the Macbooks that would be the first sign of the decline of x86.
Because of the above, they say that they have one CPU project which can do hybrid x86/ARM execution and they say they'll have the first prototype wafers with this within the next few months.
There's an Intel CPU AMD GPU MCM in the works.
There's an Intel CPU AMD GPU MCM in the works.
lol
čeprav je možno, da je samo tech demo oz. proof of concept
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pegasus ::
Lahko potrdim večino napisanega. Zato pa se intel širi na non-cpu zadeve kot so memory, storage, networking, rack-scale infrastruktura, software stacks, etc. Cpuji so kjer so, fizika je fizika, za korak naprej bodo potrebne radikalne spremembe, na katere industrija ni pripravljena. Zato bo naslednje desetletje (ali več) poudarek na integraciji. In tu ima ARM prednost ...
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tt2 ::
http://wccftech.com/intel-z270-h270-b25...
Ok, plošče so zunaj, če katerega matra. Testi z novimi procesorji se pa tudi kar vrstijo. Ne vem no, če me je Intel že kdaj tako razočaral.
Ok, plošče so zunaj, če katerega matra. Testi z novimi procesorji se pa tudi kar vrstijo. Ne vem no, če me je Intel že kdaj tako razočaral.
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DarwiN ::
Sej zato pa vsi navijamo, da bi AMD nabil Intela pošteno po pi*ki z ZEN-om. Škoda edino, da je single core performance še vedno daleč v ospredju in tukaj bo AMD prekratek, I'm afraid.
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
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Mr.B ::
Sej zato pa vsi navijamo, da bi AMD nabil Intela pošteno po pi*ki z ZEN-om. Škoda edino, da je single core performance še vedno daleč v ospredju in tukaj bo AMD prekratek, I'm afraid.
Sej dela x170 chipset lepo z novim procom... isci bios update for kaby lake
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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Mr.B ::
Testi so zunaj.... No razen če res delaš nekaj na multicorre, ni glih neke....
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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Dr_M ::
http://wccftech.com/intel-z270-h270-b25...
Ok, plošče so zunaj, če katerega matra. Testi z novimi procesorji se pa tudi kar vrstijo. Ne vem no, če me je Intel že kdaj tako razočaral.
Holy shit! Kaksne cene za Asus Maximus IX plate. To je $100 vec, kot VIII.
The reason why most of society hates conservatives and
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
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Mr.B ::
http://wccftech.com/intel-z270-h270-b25...
Ok, plošče so zunaj, če katerega matra. Testi z novimi procesorji se pa tudi kar vrstijo. Ne vem no, če me je Intel že kdaj tako razočaral.
Holy shit! Kaksne cene za Asus Maximus IX plate. To je $100 vec, kot VIII.
Jp, nekje pisejo da bo i7-7700k, za 10$ cenejši kot i7_6600k
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
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bluefish ::
i7-7700 je tam nekje od 360 € naprej. Če se ne motim, je bila na začetku cena za 6700 podobna.
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opeter ::
Sej zato pa vsi navijamo, da bi AMD nabil Intela pošteno po pi*ki z ZEN-om. Škoda edino, da je single core performance še vedno daleč v ospredju in tukaj bo AMD prekratek, I'm afraid.
Ampak zato mora x86 izginit oz. umret. A to se ne bo zgodilo.
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RTVSLO: http://tinyurl.com/74r9n7j
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ziga1990 ::
Ni potrebe po tem. Le razvijalci aplikacij rabijo eno brco v rit.
to je vse od Ryzena odvisno, če bo uspel in bo na trg dal 6 jedrnika po dobri ceni se bojo razvijalci potrudili da bojo tudi lastiki 6c Ryzena lahko uživali v njihovi igri ali programu
Ryzen 1700, 16gb RAM, GTX1070, NH-D15, Bequiet Darkbase pro 900
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Isotropic ::
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ziga1990 ::
Imajo novi lastniki že probleme kabylake procesorje poganjajo na nepodprtih windowsih in imajo visoke temperature
Ryzen 1700, 16gb RAM, GTX1070, NH-D15, Bequiet Darkbase pro 900
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Dr_M ::
Random post brez glave in repa. A je to google translate?
The reason why most of society hates conservatives and
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
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Dr_M ::
Hmal jim je prslo. Tole se je vedelo ze vec mesecev nazaj.
The reason why most of society hates conservatives and
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
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Dr_M ::
A se amdju sploh splaca kej pacat v najnizjem desktop segmentu?
http://wccftech.com/intel-pentium-g4560...
http://wccftech.com/intel-pentium-g4560...
The reason why most of society hates conservatives and
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
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Mitja358 ::
Q6600 primerjan z novimi CPU-ji. Damn, nisem vedel, da so v tem času naredili takšen preskok, glede na to, da je Q6600 še čisto OK CPU za večino.
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tomaz4 ::
Q6600 primerjan z novimi CPU-ji. Damn, nisem vedel, da so v tem času naredili takšen preskok, glede na to, da je Q6600 še čisto OK CPU za večino.
Ja, v času od Q6600 do i5-2500K so res naredili preskok (Štiri leta). Naslednjih šest let je šlo pa zeloooo počasi naprej.
Ali kdo ve kdaj naj bi ven prišli Kaby Lake Xeon-i, se pravi workstation E3 V6.
A pri Intelu čakajo na Ryzen da bodo cene pravilno nastavili ...
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Shegevara ::
Jaz sem imel vedno filozofijo: kupi cpu za 200EUR na vsake 5-6 let.
Kupil E6600 (dual core Q6600) leta 2006 za 190EUR
Kupil i5 3450 leta 2012 za 190EUR
Bomo videli kaj bo naslednje leto (2018) kazalo v rangu pod 200EUR. Trenutno mi tale stara i5-ka čisto brezhibno tik-taka. Tudi če ZEN presenteti nad vsemi pričakovanji, dvomim, da bi se nadgradnja v istem cenovnem rangu splačala.
Kaj se recimo danes dobi za 200EUR? I5 6400? Kakšna žalost.
Kupil E6600 (dual core Q6600) leta 2006 za 190EUR
Kupil i5 3450 leta 2012 za 190EUR
Bomo videli kaj bo naslednje leto (2018) kazalo v rangu pod 200EUR. Trenutno mi tale stara i5-ka čisto brezhibno tik-taka. Tudi če ZEN presenteti nad vsemi pričakovanji, dvomim, da bi se nadgradnja v istem cenovnem rangu splačala.
Kaj se recimo danes dobi za 200EUR? I5 6400? Kakšna žalost.
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hojnikb ::
za 200€ bi lahko dobil xeon 1231V3
btw, anyone fancy some g4560 overclocking ? :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/c...
btw, anyone fancy some g4560 overclocking ? :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/c...
#brezpodpisa
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Dr_M ::
Uf, ce bi tole prej vedel, bi poleg asrock k6 plate narocil se enga pentiuma.
The reason why most of society hates conservatives and
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
loves liberals is because conservatives hurt you with
the truth and liberals comfort you with lies.
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opeter ::
Imajo novi lastniki že probleme kabylake procesorje poganjajo na nepodprtih windowsih in imajo visoke temperature
Je to res? Potemtakem počasi res rabiš Windows 10, če nočeš probleme.
Hrabri mišek (od 2015 nova serija!) -> http://tinyurl.com/na7r54l
18. november 2011 - Umrl je Mark Hall, "oče" Hrabrega miška
RTVSLO: http://tinyurl.com/74r9n7j
18. november 2011 - Umrl je Mark Hall, "oče" Hrabrega miška
RTVSLO: http://tinyurl.com/74r9n7j
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hojnikb ::
btw, g4560 je že 57€ ;) Še malo pa bo 55€, tako kot sem v prejšni temi napovedal :)
#brezpodpisa
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DarwiN ::
Keep rubbing it in, hojnik. :)
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
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ziga1990 ::
Imajo novi lastniki že probleme kabylake procesorje poganjajo na nepodprtih windowsih in imajo visoke temperature
Je to res? Potemtakem počasi res rabiš Windows 10, če nočeš probleme.
naj bi bilo ker na nepodprtih windowsih naj bi se pojavlali problemi, z voltažo je cpu nemore pravilno uravnavati in zato prihaja do višjih temperatur.
Ryzen 1700, 16gb RAM, GTX1070, NH-D15, Bequiet Darkbase pro 900
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DarwiN ::
dejansko bi lahk dal za pir, k si tak fejst mimo kiksnu :)
Instaliraj si ga :D
Ampak ta OC je pa nonsense, ko moraš dat 120€ za Z270 plato.. Menda ne boš zraven kombiniral procesorja za 57€. :S
You don't see faith healers working in hospitals
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
for the same reason you don't see psychics winning the lottery!
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hojnikb ::
daš danes pentiuma, naviješ na 5Ghz, pr naslednji plači/božičnci/regresu pa 7700k. Win-win
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