Boston Dynamics pokazal, kaj zmorejo novi humanoidni roboti

PrihajaNodi je 4. mar 2016 ob 11:55 izjavil:

Ali v ta forum pišejo samo otroci bogatih staršev, ali podjetniki ki so prisesani na državno dojko?

Ocitno. Nekdo, ki zivi cele dneve za racunalnikom ne more videti in poznati, da med Mariborcanom, ki bo zdaj, zdaj deluziran in beguncem ni razlike. Potem pa ti njim razlagaj, da se je statisticno lakota zmanjsala.

Posledica pa je visja prodaja nepremicnin pod ceno na stajerskem. Kar pomeni da statisticno nepremicninski trg okreva.

:: danes, 11:33:45
Ali v ta forum pišejo samo otroci bogatih staršev, ali podjetniki ki so prisesani na državno dojko?

Sploh ker Nodijevi linki trdijo samo to da so tam reve#i, ne poda pa nobenega linka na analizo lai so tam reve#i kot posledica avtomatizacije. Torej nodi, kje lahko preverim vpliv avtomatizacije na rast revezev v Kialiforniji recimo zadnjih deset let. Te podatke ti pa res ne bo terzko dobiti.

Seveda je ni, saj zato je absurdno, da Mariborčanu pomagamo, beguncu pa ne bi.

Torej si potrdil, da revni in lacni v Kaliforniji naimajo nobene veze z avtomatizacijo... JE samo tvoj strah da pri treh diplomah, nisi primeren za nobeno kapitalisticno delo, oziroma si nekako tako kot kak Maxi, Adrija je za to tam, da preveza nase in ne zato da bi poizkusila vsaj pokriti stroske letov gospodov...

PrihajaNodi je 4. mar 2016 ob 12:33 izjavil:

Torej si potrdil, da revni in lacni v Kaliforniji naimajo nobene veze z avtomatizacijo... JE samo tvoj strah da pri treh diplomah, nisi primeren za nobeno kapitalisticno delo, oziroma si nekako tako kot kak Maxi, Adrija je za to tam, da preveza nase in ne zato da bi poizkusila vsaj pokriti stroske letov gospodov...

Ti bom razlozil drugace, ker vidim da je tvoj iq omejen na zgornjo stopnjo 80. Silicijeva dolina ima R&D sama industrija, proizvodnja pa je v kitajkskem Foxconnu. Ti pa na zalost ne razumes da niso vsi zaposleni v R&D. Pravzaprav si poglej kje so pridobili ljudje v silicijevi dolini izobrazbo. Harvard? In crnc iz Detroita naj pride tja po kaksnem kljucu?

PrihajaNodi je 4. mar 2016 ob 12:44 izjavil:

Dej no ne zali me, ker sislcijeva dolina ni cela Kalifornija. Pa tudi se ne upas napisati, koliko R&D je slo v Indijo, etc...

Ne ni. Je pa Silicijeva dolina za Zda kot Novo Mesto za Slovenijo.

AMpak mdejmo splosni strah, krivi so roboti, brez kakrsne koli utemeljitve z relanim stanjem, razen uno genericno limanje amerika uber shit, ter 1% ima vse na svetu, drugi smo F.U.

A Detroit si namerno spregledal? Kriva je globalizacija in avtomatizacija.
Podlaga cesa pa je po tvoje to da srednji sloj izginja?

Seveda B.S. Kot da je robote tezje postaviti v ameriki, kot pa v mehiki, kjer je potrebno potem se dodatne davek na uvoz v ameriko placet. Dej vrzi podatke. Hm kaj pa slovenija, tu so zagotovo krivi roboti, pa nismo kaj dosti nikoli na globalnem trgu delovali kot neki resni igralec.

Self-driving trucks wouldn't be good news for everyone, however. Critics point out that, should this breakthrough be realised, there will be a significant knock-on effect for employment. In the US, up to 3.5 million drivers and 5.2 million additional personnel who work directly within the industry would be out of a job. Additionally, countless pit stops along well-worn trucking routes could become ghost towns. Self-driving trucks, in other words, might wreck millions of lives and bring disaster to a significant sector of the economy.

Seveda B.S. Kot da je robote tezje postaviti v ameriki, kot pa v mehiki

General Motors, Ford Motor Company, and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles US are often referred to as the "Big Three," being the largest automakers in the United States and Canada. They were for a while the largest in the world and two of them are still a mainstay in the top five. Ford has held the position of second-ranked automaker for the past 56 years, being relegated to third in North American sales, after being overtaken by Toyota in 2007. That year, Toyota produced more vehicles than GM, though GM still outsold Toyota that year, giving GM 77 consecutive calendar years of top sales. For the first quarter of 2008, however, Toyota overtook GM in sales as well.[2][3] In the North American market, the Detroit automakers retained the top three spots, though their market share is dwindling.[4] Honda passed Chrysler for the fourth spot in 2008 US sales.[5][6] Since then, because of Toyota's controversy surrounding their recent unintended acceleration recall, Toyota has fallen back to fourth place in sales, with Honda trailing in fifth place, allowing the Detroit Three to reclaim their Big Three title.

The Big Three are also distinguished not just by their size and geography, but also by their business model. The majority of their operations are unionized (United Auto Workers and Canadian Auto Workers), resulting in higher labor costs than other multinational automakers, including those with plants in North America.[7] The 2005 Harbour Report estimated that Toyota's lead in labour productivity amounted to a cost advantage of $350 US to $500 US per vehicle over American manufacturers.[8] The UAW agreed to a two-tier wage in recent 2007 negotiations, something which the CAW has so far refused.[9] Delphi, which was spun off from GM in 1999, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the UAW refused to cut their wages and GM is expected to be liable for a $7 billion shortfall.[10][11][12]

In order to improve profits, the Detroit automakers made deals with unions to reduce wages while making pension and health care commitments. GM, for instance, at one time picked up the entire cost of funding health insurance premiums of its employees, their survivors and GM retirees, as the US did not have a universal health care system.[13] With most of these plans chronically underfunded in the late 1990s, the companies have tried to provide retirement packages to older workers, and made agreements with the UAW to transfer pension obligations to an independent trust.[1

PrihajaNodi je 4. mar 2016 ob 10:25 izjavil:

Kaj pa v nuklaekah ni avtomatizirano? Se dve leti bo izklopu iz omrezja so delujoce preden pride do core meltdown. Kar AI potrebuje je manifestacija na nek medij. Internet sam po sebi ni zadosti niti Roomba ne. Je pa Atlas ze kar blizu.

Mr.B je 4. mar 2016 ob 16:25 izjavil:

PrihajaNodi,
no potem dej pa link izguba dleovnih mest kjer ima Tojota v Ameriki tovarno. Bo slo to lazje, ali nisi niti unega clanka prebral v linku..

However, manufacturing as a share of the economy has been plummeting. In 1965, manufacturing accounted for 53 percent of the economy. By 1988 it only accounted for 39 percent, and in 2004, it accounted for just 9 percent.

Job Losses

The loss of the manufacturing industry manifests itself most clearly in job losses. According to the Economist, "For the first time since the Industrial Revolution, fewer than 10 percent of American workers are now employed in manufacturing" (Oct. 1, 2005). But even this figure is probably double the actual percentage, because many workers in a typical manufacturing firm have service-type jobs. In comparison, during the 1970s, approximately 25 percent of American workers were employed in manufacturing. From 1990 to present, manufacturing jobs have decreased every single year; since 1996, they have plummeted by almost one fifth.

Se 1x za izgubo srednjaga sloja sedaj kriviš robote ?

Tako nizke brezpsoelnosti v ameriki ze dolgo časa ni bilo, v demokratičnem socializmu, kjer jih je strah vsakih sprememb "kot ti", no pa poglejmo.

In 2014, 47 million people lived in Poverty USA. That means the poverty rate for 2014 was 15%.

The 2014 poverty rate was 2.3 percentage points higher than in 2007, the year before the 2008 recession.

This is the fourth consecutive year that the number of people in poverty has remained unchanged from the previous year's poverty estimate.

Source: Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2014, U.S. Census Bureau; Income and Poverty in the United States: 2014, U.S. Census Bureau

In kaj ima to veze z roboti ? Še malo pa bos spet limal un link 1% ima 99% pa to.

Dragi nodi, kot ti stvari ne gre utemeljiti v Sloveniji in EU, greš na drugi kontinent z imenom Amerika, potem pa če tam ne moreš utemeljiti se preseliš pač še čez en ocean. Dej no dejstvo je da je od začetka industriskje revolucije no delovnih mest več in nezaposlenost je na kitajskem praktično nespermenjena.

Sej res statistika laže in po tej poti smo že enkrat.

V glavnem, prav fetiš te je brati, ko si nekaterih temah polen samegasebe ko daješ primere izkoriščanja delavcev v Amazonu, sedaj si pa tiho ? pa so ti roboti primerni da razbremenijo po tovje imenovano sužensko delovno silo v amazonu, etc...

Over the past 45 years, the United States has experienced an ever-growing standard of living, with real GDP per capita more than doubling between 1959 and 2004. In contrast, living standards among some populations in the United States seem to have stagnated. Between 1970 and 2003 the non-elderly poverty rate rose from 10.7 to 12.8 percent. This is in spite of dramatic increases in female labor force participation and overall education levels, and an almost 50 percent increase in cash and in-kind welfare spending per capita. All of these factors should have put substantial downward pressure on poverty rates in the United States, yet they have remained relatively stable. In Poverty in America: Trends and Explanations (NBER Working Paper No. 11681), co-authors Hilary Hoynes, Marianne Page, and Ann Stevens seek to understand why this is the case. They examine post-war trends in American poverty, the work habits and family structures of the non-elderly poor, an d the likely effects of immigration, and they attempt to estimate the effects of the various government programs designed to alleviate poverty.

Official national poverty data are calculated using the Census Bureau definition of poverty. This measure has remained mostly unchanged since it was introduced in the 1960s, other than to be annually adjusted for inflation using the Consumer Price Index, and is useful for measuring long-term poverty trends. The Census Bureau releases the poverty data in an annual report, the most recent of which was released in September 2013 as Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2012.

The Census definition, or rate, determines poverty by comparing pretax cash income against a poverty threshold dollar amount that is adjusted for family size and composition.[1] In 2012, according to the official measure, 46.5 million people, or 15 percent of the total U.S. population, lived in poverty.

This poverty rate is not statistically different from the 2011 rate, and remains 2.5 percentage points higher than in 2007, the year before the Great Recession. Between 2011 and 2012, however, the number of people in poverty did increase for people age 65 and older, people living in the South, and people living outside metropolitan statistical areas.