Konflikt v Siriji

windigo je 5. feb 2016 ob 11:15 izjavil:

morbo je 5. feb 2016 ob 09:21 izjavil:

Nihče v NATU se ne bo boril na strani neo-otomanske Erdo Turčije.

Kje pa naj bi Turčija posredovala v Siriji? Proti YPG?

Edino vprašanje ta hip je, koliko si lahko Peshmerga privošči odkorakati na pomoč Rojavi in koliko je pripravljena to storiti. Če na obe vprašanje ne moreš odgovoriti najmanj z: "zelo", se YPG precej slabo piše. Pa tudi sicer je Erdogan kar spreten, Kurdov recimo ni na nobeni mirovni konferenci, se bojim da bi tudi podaljšan totalni in frontalni spopad s Kurdi preživel samo s par ostrimi besedami v backroomu s strani Američanov (in tišino s strani EU, ker slednja ni dovolj zvita, da bi zaradi tega začasno zaprla vse meje /vključno s potmi za begunce/ s Turčijo, torej jo začela obravnavati kot ne prav prijateljsko državo).

BorutK-73 je 5. feb 2016 ob 17:55 izjavil:

Če je tole vojska, sem jaz papež.
Takoj ko bodo začeli metki jim letet čez glave, bodo zbežali, opremo bo pa pohopsal ISIS.

windigo je 5. feb 2016 ob 11:15 izjavil:

Edino vprašanje ta hip je, koliko si lahko Peshmerga privošči odkorakati na pomoč Rojavi in koliko je pripravljena to storiti. Če na obe vprašanje ne moreš odgovoriti najmanj z: "zelo", se YPG precej slabo piše.

kow je 6. feb 2016 ob 15:40 izjavil:

Alepo lahko kvecjemu obkolijo in cakajo da se uporniki predajo, ko zmanjka zalog.

7982884e je 5. feb 2016 ob 18:44 izjavil:

sicer je danes situacija bolj napeta, ampak leto nazaj je recimo turčija pustila prehod iraškim pešmergam, da so prišli po dolgi turški poti na pomoč YPGju pri branjenju kobaneja

morbo je 7. feb 2016 ob 10:22 izjavil:

Kurdish forces enter rebel heartland in northern Aleppo

#YPG seize control of Al-'Alqamiyah near Menagh Airbase after clashes with #AhrarSham & friends #Aleppo

Syrian Army, Hezbollah advance to Kiffeen in northern Aleppo

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Izgleda da med režimom in Kurdi poteka neformalna tekma za ozemlje FSA & džihadistov :)

oo7 je 7. feb 2016 ob 21:42 izjavil:

ZaphodBB je 7. feb 2016 ob 17:13 izjavil:

Erdogan pravi Amerom: Kurdi ali Turčija izberite sami.

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_er...

Upam, da vsaj enkrat Američani naredijo pametno potezo in zberejo Kurde.

krneki0001 je 7. feb 2016 ob 22:12 izjavil:

S tem bo tampon cona med turčijo in sirijo, kurdi bodo pa lahko podpiral svoje ljudi v turčiji v luft metal turke po celi turčiji.

Invictus je 8. feb 2016 ob 07:51 izjavil:

Pa kaj zdaj iščeš dlako v jajcih. Turki imajo pač od države podprt terorizem na Kurdi. A če vlada reče, pol je pa v redu pobijati ljudi?

7982884e je 8. feb 2016 ob 11:37 izjavil:

YPG so trenutno vojaško v premirju s SAA, imajo iste sovražnike kar na določenih frontah posledično pripelje do koordiniranih ofenziv, ampak politično so pa z asadovim režimom na enakih bregovih kot so s turškim. se pa lahko po koncu vojne to obrne v katerokoli smer.

Taking a page from the Russians, who are masters of this dark art, this is where a counterterrorism strategy based on provocation is needed. It is not difficult to cause terrorists, particularly inexperienced ones longer on radical talk than effective action, to do self-defeating things, thereby discrediting their virulent message.

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We need not reinvent the wheel here. The implosion of the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) offers an ideal template. Back in the mid-1980s, the ANO was one of the world’s most feared terrorist organizations, responsible for murder and mayhem across Europe and the Middle East, including the deaths of several Americans. Abu Nidal had been thrown out of Arafat’s PLO for his violent madness, becoming the world’s arch-terrorist during the mid-Reagan years. (Providing the spark for Israel’s 1982 invasion of Lebanon was one of his more consequential terrorist acts.) Then, suddenly, he disappeared from the radar and went Elvis.

What happened was Abu Nidal killed off his own organization. A long-term deception operation by several intelligence services (including American), working together, convinced the already half-mad Abu Nidal that his group was swarming with spies and traitors. Instead of finding these (mostly mythical) moles, Abu Nidal decided to basically kill everyone. Over a few months in 1987-88, he unleashed his fearsome security force against his own people, murdering about 600 ANO members, many of them tortured to death in a medieval fashion. Some 170 terrorists were murdered in a single terrible night. With half the group dead and the other half terrified and demoralized, Abu Nidal fled to Baghdad with the remnants of the ANO, under Saddam Hussein’s protection, where they remained until the Americans arrived in the spring of 2003. (U.S. intelligence very much wanted to find Abu Nidal, but it turned out he was dead, ostensibly after having shot himself….several times.)

One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya. While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there’s no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists, turning them to your side. When you’re dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn’t often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don’t exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.