AMD ZEN - nova X86 Jedra

zakaj bi nasploh delal ibmv amdjovih socketih ?

D3m0r4l1z3d je 13. nov 2016 ob 08:46 izjavil:

Urgent meeting at AMD HQ: Raja and CMO are there, Lisa is still appsent

CMO: Howdi, Raja, how are you doing these days? Lisa is late, she is probably on the phone right now with her North Korean leader talking about counter measures against Green Hornet.
Raja: Hey, I am fine, just stop being such racist, you offend me too. BTW, she is from South...
CMO: I am not sure for her. But you are most definitely from south... something.
Raja: Just, stop.
CMO: No, I am too pissed of after reading of financial results from Q3 of Nvidia`s fiscal year 2017. They are rolling in the deep of money sea and we are still waiting you to finish Vega.
Raja: Wait, wait, we are still polishing...
CMO: No waiting any more, Lisa hired you to give us milking cow, I guess she thought that is what real Indians do for tech firms in USA, but after 290 series I think you are most definitely Native American Indian, giving us Hawaii climate-hot-chip with almost 1 Horse Power of TDP, Chief NotSoPale Horse. You should try to market that shit. We were most creative with PR slides, lying and stuff.
Raja: Hahaha, 4gb for 4k gaming, I remember, you silly fascist. But we gave you 8gb 290x, didnt we?
CMO: Yeah, you did and again we were forced to go street magician style so we could sell 390 series with 8gb as brand new gpu, we were succesful even, till you did it again, 4gb on higher-end Fiji. At least my department have been inspired immidiately to name this serie after Lisas reaction to that GPU of yours.
Raja: Forget about it, BetterRedneck. Polaris 10 is here to revolutionize.
Lisa: Hi, you two fanboys, sorry I am late. Did I hear Polaris and revolution in the same sentance? Who the fuck gives that high hope names, we are AMDesperate after all?
Raja: Hey, Lisa, whats up? Dont give up.
CMO: I am behind Polaris name. We have to stray away from negativity as AMDesperate, Fury, Rage and that kind of shit Raja forged.
Raja: You, prick. Why haven´t you came up with such a successful Geforce and Titan names if you are so smart?
Lisa: Chill out, Chief. Put away your tomahawk.
CMO: He is not...
Lisa: Just kidding. Relax, I know. Koduri, where is my Vega? Look me in the eyes and say it: Vega is better than Pascal and is on track for 2016 release.
Raja: Go ask Jong-Un.
Lisa: You mean Huang?
CMO: She did.
Raja: I am out of here, go fuck yourself, you racist scums. Vega is deliberately late to the market because that is just what I do.
CMO: I knew it. Lisa see, this browncookie tanned motherfucker sabotage it, my precious.
Lisa: Language! Both, please! We are better than green goblin. Speaking of Huang`s marvel balls, Raja, did you discover where their gorgeous p/W ratio is coming from. You promised me that Polaris will be a notch better hence 14nm FinFet.
Raja: Oh, come on, only numbers, 16nm from TSCM is superior, GloFo FinFucked us with 14nm. Polaris only Achieve Maxwell-like efficiency. Now we party like its 2014. I am out of here, bitches.
CMO: Dammit, 14nm is so much easier to...
Lisa: OK, you can go now too. You have done more than enough, just think something better than Fury for Vega. Valkyrie maybe.
CMO: Nice, Lisa. Take care of Raja though, he might go green after another fail. Bye.
Lisa: No worries, DX12 is his game. Our is ZEN. Peace out.

hhahaahhaha made my day :D

http://wccftech.com/intel-kaby-lake-cor...

Intel bo odklenil i3 ?? 4GHZ+ Overclock ?
Z intelove strani zaenkrat ni znaka, da jih je strah AMDja.

Odklenil so i3, kar smo si ze od nekdaj zelel. i5 napovedi pa ne zgledajo da bo padel kaj dosti v ceni.

blagodati konkurence, Nice, AMD

naj raje odklenejo ht na i5kah, i7 dajo 6c/12t in še par mb l3 cacha ter novo linijo i8 z 8c/16t, še več l3, višjimi clocki (base in turbo), brez gpuja, višjim tdp in odklenjenm množilnikom

s tem da na 11xx socketu ne moreš imet več kot 4 jedra in rabiš prešaltat na drugo platformo

V bistvu je namerno tako

hojnikb je 12. nov 2016 ob 08:44 izjavil:

nope, jst za razliko od rdečk vem da amd ni karitas in da bojo cene postavl relativno intlu.

Hehhe izjava leta: Kariats.


Se pa strinjam, ko majo dober cpu ni nekih velikih diskontov v P/P. ponudijo pa malo več vedno ( P/p )

hojnikb je 12. nov 2016 ob 22:48 izjavil:

ddr5 support ?

dream on.

amd se svojga ddr4 controlerja nimajo :)

čigav kontroler ima AMD ? .. če je res

maj pa svoj ram.

So pa super uparjeni na njihov IMC... scori kokr vem so blesteli

analogni mogoče z amd najboljše

x45 je 14. nov 2016 ob 20:24 izjavil:

Amd je v ram .. DDR3. Vsem znan, še v forumu so pisali o njem, mislim da v temi Buldozer.

Get superior stability and excellent performance with AMD Radeon™ memory


http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/memor...

to je samo rebranded, kje bi ga pa delali
isto ssdji

AMD Zen: 8 Core 16 Thread CPU Could Beat Intel At The $300 Mark. :P

Ampak žal tole izvira iz tistega forum linka, ki ga je hojnik prilepil nekaj dni nazaj in so ga kasneje izbrisali, kjer naj bi nek insider curljal te informacije v javnost.. Sem takrat prebral vse poste od tega domnevnega insiderja in je bilo sumljivo, kako na vprašanje o ceni ni vedel ničesar, že naslednji dan pa potem postregel s ceno in še celim kupom drugih informacij.. Zna bit kak troll, ali pa AMD spušča takšne leake, da bi ljudje počakali z nakupom. Kdosigavedi kakšne igrice se grejo danes te velike korporacije.

Nenazadnje je Lisa Su izjavila: "So we believe we'll be competitive certainly with Core I5 as well as Core I7, and we will be launching in those areas."

Še v video obliki:

dvomim da se amd sam ve pricing..

Zbrisali ja, kot imaš pojasnjeno na tem YT posnetku.

Vse skupaj je sumljivo, ne samo cena. Vseeno pa je tip deloval legit, ker se vidi, da pozna zadeve.

"Intel has dominated the CPU market for as long as we can remember"

Kaj pa pricakujes od clanka, k ga pise froc al pa nekdo s spominom zlate ribice?

Looks like Zen is a bust and Intel doesn't have to do anything

Vsak mesec ko zamujajo, konkurenca ne čaka, to je problem. Dobesedno čas je denar.

B2B bo odločalo

vroči pa dragi.... yeah... :)

Brane22 je 16. nov 2016 ob 20:54 izjavil:

Telbanc je 16. nov 2016 ob 20:00 izjavil:

Prvi zeni bojo zgleda vroči.

Kot sem jaz razeumel zadevo, bodo šli do tistih deklariranih 95W in pač verjetno še tistih ekstra 200MHz boš dobil v tem ( cherrypicking). Preostanek je namenjen rezervi pri OC.

Brane, kva misliš kake bojo frekvence 8 jedrnikov.

O 4ghz boosta se verjetno še ne moremo pogovarjat. Zanimivi znajo bit tud ostali iz te serije.

Kar se tiče cene, se mi ne zdi huda, če bojo frekvence kolko tolko visoke.

Pojma nimam. Glede na postavljeno ceno bi reku, da bodo nekoliko nižje kot pri najhitrejših Intlih, da pa bodo zadeve solidno navitljive.

Mene to v bistvu ne zanima,ker:

- bo VSAK čip itak imel frekvenci primerno ceno. Dobil boš več, kot pri Intlu za isti denar, ne bo pa zastonj.
- who cares za 10-30%. Toliko dobiš/zgubiš ob spremembi flagov pri preevajanju
- bistvene novosti so TDP, šparanej s štromom, true 8-core, DDR4 in s tem povezane višje kapacitete, SoC ( poceni plate), unificiran socket itditd.
Pa še to bo v začetku zasoljeno, ker bo pač novost, pa fajn bo počakat recimo 6 mesecev, da upenalijo proces in se pojavi poln spekter plat, da RAMom narastejo hitrosti in padejo cene itd.

Kar bo, bo, konkurenca je dobrodošla. Zdej ostane da počakamo na izzid in nehamo šlogat.

AMDji bodo vroči in imeli bodo večji TDP od Intelovih. Za Opterone ZEN based proci pričakujem za 32-core proc okoli dobrih 2.0Ghz frekvenco.