Ptice padajo iz neba

Ja. Vsak dan gre precej mehurjev metana iz tal v zrak in tisti ki srečajo jato ptic, jo sklatijo.

Vendar je naseljenih krajev na Zemlji tako malo, da večino teh dogodkov sploh noben ne opazi, ali vsaj ne daje na veliki boben.

Če pa že eden, potem bo drugi toliko verjetneje in tudi lažje.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum...

In še citat iz enega drugega foruma: "ko bi le lahko iz Slovenije poročali o množičnem poginu politikov"

Moja podlaga je ta, da to orožje pač ni znanstvena fantastika. Dokazov seveda nimam. Bi pa se seveda to moralo poznati na notranjih organih ptičev.

Hm a je kdo videl mojo šibrovko? Pogrešam jo zadnjih par dni? ;-)

Tale slika ki je na eni strani



meni pove, da so pogini prisotni v razvitih državah - ZDA, Kanada, Švedska, Anglija in Nova Zelandija. Mislim, da je posredi onesnaževanje in da je pač naenkrat prišlo do masovnega pogina, prej pa je bilo v manjših, omembe, nevrednih količinah.

saj tudi v Sloveniji vidimo, kako so masovno poginile ribe, pa je jasno zakaj - zaradi onesnaževanja habitata.

imagodei je 6. jan 2011 ob 15:08 izjavil:

na več krajih po svetu hkrati?

Zadnje čase se je večkrat zgodilo, da je bil LISS popolnoma črn, povsod po svetu. Sodeč po temu, bi bilo možno na več krajih po svetu hkrati.

Live Internet Seismic Server
http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/... Danes je, škoda, več ali manj bel.

Drugače pa, ja, metan je lažji od zraka, tako da gre na hitro v višave. In če človek ni v tistem trenutku ravno tam blizu, da ga ovohava, tega niti opazil ne bo, kljub mogočim velikim količinam.

Metanska teorija mi je zelo zanimiva. To se včasih preprosto MORA zgoditi.

Lahko je tudi CO₂. Imaš recimo, tudi pri nas, izvire, kjer je pri tleh močno povečana koncentracija CO₂ (pravijo jim mofete). In tam okoli njih velikokrat vidiš nekaj poginjenih ptic.

O.

Mediji vedno paničarijo. Če ne, ne bi bili mediji. Tam kjer se pa res noče vedeti pa mediji preprosto prezrejo.

Kot je že nekdo omenu,oglejte si film JEDRO,kjer se je zemljino kroženje počasi ustavlja in s tem upada tudi magnetno polje Zemje,po katerem se ptice orientirajo.
"Sodni dan se zgleda bliža"

Ja na Kitajskem(freaking Azija) so pa zeleno usmerjeni. Nimajo nič onesneževanja, tako da tam ptice živijo zdravo ter so zavarovane tako z osnovnim kot dodatnim zavarovanjem. Mislim, da teorija da se to dogaja le v razvitem svetu zaradi onesneževanja ne zdrži.

http://24ur.com/novice/svet/po-mrtvih-p...

A bird will fall frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.

(G.I. Jane film.)

To so prevedli v " Premrla ptica pade v sneg brez samopomilovanja ... " - prevod še boljši od originala, če mene vprašate.

Spet ena priližnost, da postanete realni, tistih 70% tukaj, ki to (še) niste. Narava je huda mačeha.

Varianta

a) to je nekaj popolnoma normalnega (5000 ptic naenkrat, 2 milijona rib naenkrat...), samo mediji so zagrabili foro in napihnili zadevo
b) vendarle se dogaja nekaj čudnega.

a) to je nekaj popolnoma normalnega

Vsakdanji pojav to seveda ni in čisto zanimivo bi bilo vedeti, zakaj se take reči dogajajo. Kot recimo, ko nasede jata kitov. Vzroka za preplah seveda ni.

O.

Kako delna razlaga? To je vendar boleče očitno. Tako kot ljudje verjamejo, da je zadnja leta vse več potresov, ker mediji vse več poročajo o njih, posebej po Haitiju. Exposure.

Sliši se kolikor toliko čeprav ne razloži švedske ter britanije.Ker sorry fantje ne pokamo prvič za novo leto prav tako ni prvič mrzla zima.

p.s.Mogoč so pa hotl švede al pa britance zastrupit pa so blizu njih v morje to našprical pa je žvad pomrla,folk pa ostal.

Neverjetna naklučja da ljudje, ki postanejo trn v peti oblastem nenadoma delajo samomore ali jih umorijo.

Mipe je 7. jan 2011 ob 09:31 izjavil:

mihec, tudi ni prvič, da je živad naenkrat pomrla. To pozna tudi Biblija - spomni se Mojzesa, njegovega tavajočega ljudstva in dežja prepelic. To je pogost pojav. Ne nasedaj teoretikom zarote, ker nimajo pojma o pojmu.

Aja ja biblija pa res sem pozabil,hm res ne smem več nasedat teoretikom.

Če bi bili bojni strupi, zakaj niso crknile še druge vrste ptic v okolici? Zakaj niso poginile okoliške živali? Pa ljudje?

Mipe je 7. jan 2011 ob 10:43 izjavil:

Če bi bili bojni strupi, zakaj niso crknile še druge vrste ptic v okolici? Zakaj niso poginile okoliške živali? Pa ljudje?

Na tistem mestu izpusta je bila večja gostota te živalske vrste kot pa ostalih(jih ni bilo ali pa skoraj nič).Si gdaj gledal npr flamingote na reki če tam spustiš strup boš našel večino mrtve flamingote.

Mipe je 7. jan 2011 ob 10:43 izjavil:

Če bi bili bojni strupi, zakaj niso crknile še druge vrste ptic v okolici? Zakaj niso poginile okoliške živali? Pa ljudje?

Ah, sej ga ne spustijo takšno enormno količino, lahko uide samo kakšen "prdec" po domače povedano.

Pocrkale so pa samo tiste, ki so izpostavljene smrtni dozi. Ostale so pa še vedno lahko utrpele od hude, zmerne ali celo nikakršnih poškodb. Enak princip kot pri zastrupitvi z metanom. Ker je smrtna koncentracija zelo lokalizirana ter kratkotrajna oz. višje v atmosferi.

Je pa tale scenarij veliko bolj verjeten kot pa ena "biblijska apokalipsa". Konec koncev razvoja biološkega in kemičnega orožja niti ni tako huda skrivnost. Šur, detajle zakrijejo, dejstva, da razvoj poteka pa se IMO niti ne trudijo skrit pred vohuni (vprašanje če je sploh možno popolnoma prikrit zadevo). Razen pred splošno javnostjo. Nekako logično ane.

Počakat, da vidimo kaj pove obdukcija, pa bo.

BEEBE, Ark. -- Preliminary autopsies on 17 of the up to 5,000 blackbirds that fell on this town indicate they died of blunt trauma to their organs, the state's top veterinarian told NBC News on Monday.
Their stomachs were empty, which rules out poison, Dr. George Badley said, and they died in midair, not on impact with the ground.
That evidence, and the fact that the red-winged blackbirds fly in close flocks, suggests they suffered some massive midair collision, he added. That lends weight to theories that they were startled by something.
Earlier Monday, the estimated number of dead birds was raised to between 4,000 and 5,000, up sharply from the initial estimate of 1,000.
Keith Stephens, a spokesman for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, provided the new numbers.
Residents of the small town of Beebe awoke Saturday to find thousands of dead blackbirds littering a 1.5-square-mile area. The birds inexplicably dropped dead, landing on homes, cars and lawns.
Violent weather rumbled over much of the state Friday, including a tornado that killed three people in Cincinnati, Ark. Lightning could have killed the birds directly or startled them to the point that they became confused. Hail also has been known to knock birds from the sky.
The director of Cornell University's ornithology lab in Ithaca, N.Y., said the most likely suspect is violent weather. It's probable that thousands of birds were asleep, roosting in a single tree, when a "washing machine-type thunderstorm" sucked them up into the air, disoriented them, and even fatally soaked and chilled them.
"Bad weather can occasionally catch flocks off guard, blow them off a roost, and they get hurled up suddenly into this thundercloud," lab director John Fitzpatrick said.
Rough weather had hit the state earlier Friday, but the worst of it was already well east of Beebe by the time the birds started falling, said Chris Buonanno, a forecaster with the National Weather Service in North Little Rock.
If weather was the cause, the birds could have died in several ways, Fitzpatrick said. They could easily become disoriented -- with no lights to tell them up and down -- and smack into the ground. Or they could have died from exposure.
The birds' feathers keep them at a toasty 103 degrees, but "once that coat gets unnaturally wet, it's only a matter of minutes before they're done for," Fitzpatrick said.
Lightning or hail are also possibilities.
Karen Rowe, an ornithologist for the state commission, noted that in 2001 lightning killed about 20 mallards at Hot Springs, and a flock of dead pelicans was found in the woods about 10 years ago. Lab tests showed that they, too, had been hit by lightning.
Moreover, in 1973 hail knocked birds from the sky at Stuttgart, Ark. Some of the birds were caught in a violent storm's updrafts and became encased in ice before falling from the sky.
Rowe noted that birds of prey and other animals, including dogs and cats, ate several of the dead blackbirds and suffered no ill effects.
"Every dog and cat in the neighborhood that night was able to get a fresh snack that night," Rowe said.
Mike Robertson, the mayor in Beebe, said the last dead bird was removed about 11 a.m. Sunday in the town about 40 miles northeast of Little Rock. A dozen workers hired by the city to do the cleanup wore environmental-protection suits for the task.
Robertson said the workers wore the suits as a matter of routine and not out of fear that the birds might be contaminated.
Several hundred thousand red-winged blackbirds have used a wooded area in the town as a roost for the past several years.
Robertson and other officials went to the roost area over the weekend and found no dead birds on the ground.
"That pretty much rules out an illness" or poisoning, the mayor said.
But some residents voiced concerns.
"I've been to Iraq and back and not seen nothing like this," Beebe resident Jeff Drennan told local Fox16 News on Sunday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40885546/ns...

Kot je razbrati iz članka, je takrat divjalo neurje z točo. Sredi noči. Nekaj jih je pregnalo iz gnezdišča - tam ni bilo trupel - v točo.

Saj ni nujno da so umrli instantno na mestu zastrupitve,če je prazen želodec to pomeni samo da ni bila zastrupitev z hrano.Še dobro da so ptiči pa ribe tako štoraste da se zaletavajo med sabo do smrti.Ja toča je res stvari ki jo ptiči prvič vidijo.

Na koncu bo itq nekaj tretjega(čeprav tale z plinom bi še kar nekako šla čez).Če sploh bomo gdaj vedli..