replike dragih ur

Okapi je 27. maj 2013 ob 11:33 izjavil:

Originali za 100 evrov (Seiko, Invicta, Parnis, Nautec ...) so sigurno boljši od replik za 100 evrov.

Nekje na forumu sem bral, da se je tehnologija za izdelavo ur pocenila na kitajskem in zdaj imajo možnosti, da proizvajajo tako kakovostne ure.

Saj tudi Nautec ni vreden vseh 70 €, ampak je razlika večja pri replikah.

GrimReaper je 27. maj 2013 ob 18:59 izjavil:

Res ne vidim smisla zakaj bi kdaj rabil original.

V resnici niti ne vem, kako bi sploh lahko ločil original od nekega spodobnega kitajskega klona. Zanesti bi se moral na besedo nekoga, ki prodaja ponaredke.

originali so dokaz samemu sebi, kak smisel ali nesmisel si lahko privoscis ...

Da se hitro ločit, tut če ne odpreš ure, ker ima prozorno steklo, to je prva stvar ki jo nameravam storit ko dobim uro.

ne, ne verjet da se ne opazi ali je fejk ali original

A misliš da kitajski ponarejevalec pa ne ve, kaj gledati?

It will never be perfect
It is virtually impossible for a replica to be perfect and I am not just talking about the movement. Gen watches and rep watches are made in different workshops, technicians are of different caliber and as much as they try to copy the gen, it will never be the same. I also think it would be similar if the skilled technicians from Gen companies tried to copy watches from other companies, they would find themselves struggling to find the exact materials and processes to produce exact replicas.

Okapi je 27. maj 2013 ob 21:21 izjavil:

pa še pri teh se opazi razlika če veš kaj gledat.

A misliš da kitajski ponarejevalec pa ne ve, kaj gledati? Ta navodila, kako prepoznati ponaredek, so se mi vedno zdela rahlo čudna - kot da kitajski ponarejevalci pa ne znajo brati forumov in ugotoviti, na kaj morajo paziti. Dober ponaredek lahko IMHO prepoznaš samo po tem, da je uporabljen cenejši material in da kontrola kakovosti ni enako dobra - ker zobato kolesce lahko Kitajec naredi enako dobro kot Švicar. Nobenih skrivnosti ni pri tem.

There is an influx of REALLY 'good' DeepSea fakes that have come into US from China, by the way of Cuba. Most are found in the Miami area, although some have made their way north.

Their resemblance is stunning. They weigh only one gram less than the real thing. THERE IS EVEN A LASER ETCHED CROWN IN THE CRYSTAL!

The giveaways are: deeper writing on the inner ring around the dial, wrong (but very close) font on the dial, uneven lume (only seen with the loupe), glidelock does not operate as smooth as the real thing.... The resemblance is stunning. I took one to the AD today and they didn't see anything wrong with it until they put it side by side with mine.

My watchmaker has it right now, trying to determine the origin of the movement (which has correct markings, BTW - just not all wheels are where they should be). As soon as I get it back, I will shoot a few pics and post them here.

BTW - they come in AUTHENTIC Rolex boxes, real tags (burgundy and 'SWIMPRUF'), all booklets and SOME of them may have fake papers. The serial numbers are typically in the lower M's.

As I said, these are incredible fakes, BUT FAKES NONETHELESS. Buyer beware, and ALWAYS consider the source.

The latest real example:

An elderly lady brings it into an AD in Florida. Almost complete, just no warranty card. Says - 'my klutz husband must have lost it'. They make a cash offer and buy it from her. The AD, in turn, sells it to their good client who re-sells on ebay. These fakes are THAT GOOD.

Please delete if necessary, but it's getting scary out there. They have even begun to replicate the movements:

They're even replicated the red gears. :thumbsdow

That movement (in Kyle's post) is easy...looks like a modded ETA movement (caliber stamp is in the wrong place too). There are some differences in the layout of the visible wheels, the movement retaining ring is wrong, and the 'blades' to hold the dial feet are totally wrong!

Good spotting Vic, but it might fool some beginners. :banghead: