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krucymucy ::
Zalostno, da toliko cepcev podpira izraelsko nasilje. Tko, k da podpiras ruse in njihov preventivni napad na ukrajino.
Ni tako enostavno. Tudi odgovor na vprasanje ce je Izrael bully ni tako enostavno. Veckrat so bili napadeni od sosedov, pa so se ubranili.
Ni lahko biti obkrozen s sovraznimi drzavami.
fikus_ ::
Ce se Izrael ne bi obnasal kot se, države verjetno ne bi bilo več. Prav tako velja, da se neprimerno obnaša do avtohtonih prebivalcev.
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l0g1t3ch ::
Ce se Izrael ne bi obnasal kot se, države verjetno ne bi bilo več. Prav tako velja, da se neprimerno obnaša do avtohtonih prebivalcev.
Sej izraelci oz. židi so avtohtoni prebivalci področja, ki mu danes rečemo Izrael.
Imaš še stare Britanske cajtnge, kjer so članki o židovskih teroristih, ki streljajo in razstreljujejo Britance, ki so nadzorovali/okupirali tisto ozemlje po propadu Otomanskega imperija.
Zanimivo, kako se menja kdo je terorist
tikitoki ::
Zalostno, da toliko cepcev podpira izraelsko nasilje. Tko, k da podpiras ruse in njihov preventivni napad na ukrajino.
Ni tako enostavno. Tudi odgovor na vprasanje ce je Izrael bully ni tako enostavno. Veckrat so bili napadeni od sosedov, pa so se ubranili.
Ni lahko biti obkrozen s sovraznimi drzavami.
Vbistvu je zlo enostavno. So buliji, ki izvajajo najmanj etnicno ciscenje in druge vojne zlocine prakticno na dnevni ravni.
Z amerisko pomocjo so prisli do ene najmocnejsih konvencionalnih vojsk in se jedersko orizje imajo. Res, bogi revezi. Drugega kot ubijanje palestinskih otrok, novinarjev,..., Jim Res NE preostane. Drugace, bi jih ze zradirali.
Kayzon ::
Sporočilo naši vladi, da brezpogojno vmešavanje Slovenije v vojno v Ukrajini in ignoriranje izraelskih in ZDA zločinov pove vse ravno o njih samih.
Razočaranje na višku.
Razočaranje na višku.
fikus_ ::
Ce se Izrael ne bi obnasal kot se, države verjetno ne bi bilo več. Prav tako velja, da se neprimerno obnaša do avtohtonih prebivalcev.
Sej izraelci oz. židi so avtohtoni prebivalci področja, ki mu danes rečemo Izrael.
Imaš še stare Britanske cajtnge, kjer so članki o židovskih teroristih, ki streljajo in razstreljujejo Britance, ki so nadzorovali/okupirali tisto ozemlje po propadu Otomanskega imperija.
Zanimivo, kako se menja kdo je terorist
Ok, dopolnjujem izjavo: Prav tako velja, da se neprimerno obnaša do drugih avtohtonih prebivalcev.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
fur80 ::
To da lahko s katerokoli ekspolozijo povzročiš potres 5 stopnje če je točno na nekih prelomnicah in bla bla bla ... je urbani mit - ja lahko povzročiš udarni val, ki ga detektirajo seizmografi (pa še tisto verjetno ni podobno pravemu potresu po obliki valov) 5+ rihterja potres pa je itak slab džejsm bond scenarij. Tako pravi stroka.
https://theconversation.com/ive-always-...
So can an underground test cause an earthquake? The short answer is yes: a nuclear explosion can cause small earthquakes. But it is unlikely to affect the earth’s tectonic plates or cause a volcanic eruption.
Although a nuclear explosion releases a lot of energy in the immediate region, the amount of energy is small compared to other stresses on tectonic plates.
https://theconversation.com/ive-always-...
Kaj hoces reci da so detonirali nukico?
Sej res v izraelu sedaj talajo orozje civilom,.
Hotel sem povedati, da je težko verjetno, če že nuklearni test ne more priti do tektonskih plošč, so pa takrat rekli, ko je Francija delala nazadnje teste, da se je čisto rahlo spremenila rotacija zemlje.
Druače pa ima Izrael urjenje kot nobena druga država, moški in ženske:
Military conscription in Israel refers to the mandatory draft in Israel which applies to Israelis of three ethnicities: Jews (both genders), Druze (male only), and Circassians (male only). Under Israeli law, only men are drafted from the smallest minority groups of the Druze and of the Circassians, whereas Jewish women are required to serve alongside Jewish men. Arab citizens of Israel (both genders) and Arab-Christians (both genders) may enlist voluntarily, but they are not conscripted by law. As of 2022, the minimum required length of military service is two years and eight months (with some roles requiring an additional four months of service) for all conscripted men, and two years (with some roles requiring an additional eight months of service) for conscripted Jewish women.[1]
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Fritz ::
Ja, tako dobro urjenje imajo, da si še sedaj ližejo rane po batinah Hezbolaha v Južnem Libanonu leta 2007 (Bint Jbeil). Ena najmočnejših in najbolj moderno opremljenih vojska na svetu proti lahki pehoti. Izrael je apartheid, gnil od znotraj.
Drugače pa ja, Judje so staroselci na območju današnjega Izraela, na nekaj % območja države. Vse ostalo je pridobljeno z etničnim čiščenjem in osvajanjem.
Drugače pa ja, Judje so staroselci na območju današnjega Izraela, na nekaj % območja države. Vse ostalo je pridobljeno z etničnim čiščenjem in osvajanjem.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
fikus_ ::
Preseljevanje narodov je živa zadeva. Ras da se ne zgodi od danes na jutri, ampak dogaja se. Ponekod in v nekih časovnih obdobjih bolj "naravno", kdaj pa kdaj bolj "umetno".
Če ti rezultati teh preseljevanj nisi všeč, ti ne morem pomagati.
Če ti rezultati teh preseljevanj nisi všeč, ti ne morem pomagati.
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Maxlos ::
Jasno. Arabci so pa od vedno tam.
Tvoj argument je identičen l0g1t3ch.
Potomci bizantinskega imperija imajo potem pravico…….
Potomci rimskega imperija imajo potem pravico…..
V končni fazi, kaj delaš v EU, sej so pred 60k leti bile prve naselbine modernega človeka v EU. Si ti direktni potomec ali si iz afriškega barakarskega nasleja prišel ppozneje.
Vseeno pa nobenemu nebi prišlo na pamet da bi se naselil tam, ker je glede na izjave Izraelcev tam BOG za njih rezerviral zemljo.
Barking up the wrong tree
Fritz ::
Jasno. Arabci so pa od vedno tam.
Arabci so bili tam naseljeni preden so prišli judovski kolonisti iz Evrope v Palestino. Če pa želiš reči, da imajo Judje prednost, ker so poseljevali tiste kraje pred 2000 leti, se ti zna zgoditi, da ti bodo potomci Keltov in Ilirov rekli, da lahko pobereš cunje in greš, ker so oni poseljevali območje današnje Slovenije pred 2000 leti.
Skratka, sklicevanje na to kdo je bil kje pred 2000 leti in komu kakšna zemlja pripada po božji milosti, ne pelje nikamor kot v vojne, zločine in apartheid, za kar je Izrael vzorčni primer.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Maxlos ::
Jasno. Arabci so pa od vedno tam.
Arabci so bili tam naseljeni preden so prišli judovski kolonisti iz Evrope v Palestino. Če pa želiš reči, da imajo Judje prednost, ker so poseljevali tiste kraje pred 2000 leti, se ti zna zgoditi, da ti bodo potomci Keltov in Ilirov rekli, da lahko pobereš cunje in greš, ker so oni poseljevali območje današnje Slovenije pred 2000 leti.
Skratka, sklicevanje na to kdo je bil kje pred 2000 leti in komu kakšna zemlja pripada po božji milosti, ne pelje nikamor kot v vojne, zločine in apartheid, za kar je Izrael vzorčni primer.
ampak ampak ampak BOG jim je to obljubil. Česa ne razumeš. Zna boleti ko muslimane nekateri označujejo kot teroriste, zaradi vere.
Še se spomnite strateškega umika Zahodne vojske iz Afganistana, kako bodo sedaj Afganistanci destabilizirali Iran.
Kot kaže Pakistan že slabo leto dobiva pozdrave iz Afganistana, v oblik samomorilcev. Zadnji pozdrav je cca 100 mrtvih.
Barking up the wrong tree
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fur80 ::
Bilokako je, Izrael mora biti prekleto trdoživ, da to vzdrži! Še Križarji in kristjani so morali pobrati šila in kopita ter odditi. Držijo Jeruzalem, kar ni uspelo včasih celotni Evropi.
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fikus_ ::
Ok, od Irana smo zajadrali do Izraelcev in pisanjem, ki nima povezave z Iranom. Vrnimo se na temo.
Ampak ne spet vleči argumente od ne vem kod, kateri nimajo ne repa ne glave.
Ampak ne spet vleči argumente od ne vem kod, kateri nimajo ne repa ne glave.
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nejcek74 ::
mmm, jeruzalemsko kraljestvo, se pravi entiteta pod vladavino evropskih križarjev je obstajalo med 1099 in 1291. Napišem predvsem zato, da se zavedamo, da so "trenutne" razmere lahko a)kontinuiteta ali b)napaka. Ekstrapolacija trenutnih tendenc ni smiselna. Vprašanje je, ali je Izrael samovzdrzen*, Iran več kot očitno je, ker je preživel nadvlade Arabcev, Turkov, Mongolov, Angležev,.....
*recimo Jeruzalemsko kraljestvo ni bilo, ko je usahnila podpora iz Evrope je počasi ugasnil.
*recimo Jeruzalemsko kraljestvo ni bilo, ko je usahnila podpora iz Evrope je počasi ugasnil.
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fur80 ::
mmm, jeruzalemsko kraljestvo, se pravi entiteta pod vladavino evropskih križarjev je obstajalo med 1099 in 1291. Napišem predvsem zato, da se zavedamo, da so "trenutne" razmere lahko a)kontinuiteta ali b)napaka. Ekstrapolacija trenutnih tendenc ni smiselna. Vprašanje je, ali je Izrael samovzdrzen*, Iran več kot očitno je, ker je preživel nadvlade Arabcev, Turkov, Mongolov, Angležev,.....
*recimo Jeruzalemsko kraljestvo ni bilo, ko je usahnila podpora iz Evrope je počasi ugasnil.
Seveda je, za razliko od ostalih sosednjih držav nima problemov z vodo, ker je toliko pridelajo iz morja, da jo lahko izvažajo! ;)
Chalky ::
Zanimivo branje iz knjige ki jo je napisal Mike Pompeo o tistem napadu z dronom na Solemanija.
Ekskluzivno: Mike Pompeo o umoru iranskega terorističnega vodje Soleimanija s strani Trumpove administracije: "Ameriška moč izhaja iz jasnosti in ukrepanja"
"It's the classic example of how I worked every day to put America First and what happens when you start to give an inch. We were starting to lose deterrence against the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, the Iranians," said Pompeo. "They were firing artillery into the American embassy in Baghdad, they had shot down two American UAVs in international airspace, so we were losing the central thesis of our foreign policy, which was to keep America secure, you have to deter the bad guys. And, so, we ultimately, through some work that I had done when I was CIA director with our partners in Israel, Mossad, and then some later efforts, we get this opportunity. Qasem Soleimani, the commander of what was known as the IRGC Quds Force, the external terror arm of Iran, had killed 500 Americans and was plotting to kill more, and all it came together. And he was traveling from Beirut to Damascus to Baghdad, and we got this chance, and we ultimately took a strike to make sure he never killed another American or an Israeli or anybody else."
Pompeo then emphasized that the Trump Administration's foreign policy team "deterred the plot," "convinced the Iranians to back off," and the mission was done "against an establishment foreign policy that would have said you can't do it."
"Everybody's known for decades Soleimani was a bad guy, that General Soleimani had killed 500 plus of our soldiers, sailors, airman, and marines, but they were too timid, and they didn't want to defend the things that mattered," Pompeo said. "And President Trump, combined with the work we did, we pushed back against the Washington establishment foreign policies and delivered security to the country. "
Boyle then asked Pompeo to describe the meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, where the 45th president was spending the holidays, on December 29, 2019. The meeting included Defense Secretary Mark Esper, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, and National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien, all of whom were behind the plan after Pompeo shared it with them ahead of the meeting.
"Oh my gosh, it was really something," Pompeo said.
"Think about this: This is a handful of days before Covid begins to become something that the American people are thinking about, and we knew that we had this secret operation that we were briefing the president on," he added. "We had told him about this before, it wasn't brand new to him, so he had been briefed on various different alternatives, but, for the first time, we actually had the laydown - the actual model that could deliver the outcome. So we briefed him. We informed him of the risks. There were those who said, 'The Iranians will attack us all over in America and Europe. They'll attack American interests around the world,' but we were convinced we laid the groundwork to prevent that."
"And it was really something, when we were getting up to walk out, I reminded the president that the strike was going to be at Baghdad International Airport (BIAP) and that we had not taken a strike like this at a commercial airfield before, where there was commercial traffic. [Trump] basically turned to me and said, 'Don't F it up, don't mess it up,'" Pompeo laughed. "And the good news is we didn't. We got it right, we took out Soleimani, there was no collateral damage. We had convinced not only the Iranians but the Chinese and the North Koreans that we were serious about protecting the things that mattered and made a really -- it was quite a briefing. We flew back here. It took us another three and half days to line it all up, and the mission was executed in early January of '20."
While recounting some of the backdoor diplomacy that preceded and followed the fatal strike on Soleimani, Pompeo noted that on January 7, 2020, Iran retaliated with strikes on Al-Assad Air Base in Iraq, which was hosting American troops, resulting in some servicemembers being injured, but no deaths.
"In the book, I write about a letter that we had transmitted to Soleimani previously making clear, 'You got to stop this.' And had we not backed up that with deeds, then we would have been in a really bad way that in the event when it came to be. We made clear to the Iranians that this was our strike. They responded after the strike at al-Assad where there were a handful of Americans injured, it breaks my heart, serious stuff, but it wasn't World War III, and we didn't end up with conflict -- in fact, just the opposite," said Pompeo. "That strike enabled what became the Abraham Accords because the Gulf Arab States came to say, 'Hey Pompeo, Trump -- these guys are serious about the things they promised, and they're going to deliver.'"
"I was really troubled Nancy Pelosi wasn't happy," he added. "By the way, you can see comments from Joe Biden, he thought this was stupid as well. They just misunderstand American power. They think American power comes from deploying 40,000 somewhere across the world. American power comes from clarity and action, following up on the thing you're going to do, and when we did that, they understood we were serious, and we did not get the blowback that they had feared. We were fundamentally right, and we created more strength and prosperity for the United States of American as a result of the strike that we took."
Ekskluzivno: Mike Pompeo o umoru iranskega terorističnega vodje Soleimanija s strani Trumpove administracije: "Ameriška moč izhaja iz jasnosti in ukrepanja"
"It's the classic example of how I worked every day to put America First and what happens when you start to give an inch. We were starting to lose deterrence against the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, the Iranians," said Pompeo. "They were firing artillery into the American embassy in Baghdad, they had shot down two American UAVs in international airspace, so we were losing the central thesis of our foreign policy, which was to keep America secure, you have to deter the bad guys. And, so, we ultimately, through some work that I had done when I was CIA director with our partners in Israel, Mossad, and then some later efforts, we get this opportunity. Qasem Soleimani, the commander of what was known as the IRGC Quds Force, the external terror arm of Iran, had killed 500 Americans and was plotting to kill more, and all it came together. And he was traveling from Beirut to Damascus to Baghdad, and we got this chance, and we ultimately took a strike to make sure he never killed another American or an Israeli or anybody else."
Pompeo then emphasized that the Trump Administration's foreign policy team "deterred the plot," "convinced the Iranians to back off," and the mission was done "against an establishment foreign policy that would have said you can't do it."
"Everybody's known for decades Soleimani was a bad guy, that General Soleimani had killed 500 plus of our soldiers, sailors, airman, and marines, but they were too timid, and they didn't want to defend the things that mattered," Pompeo said. "And President Trump, combined with the work we did, we pushed back against the Washington establishment foreign policies and delivered security to the country. "
Boyle then asked Pompeo to describe the meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, where the 45th president was spending the holidays, on December 29, 2019. The meeting included Defense Secretary Mark Esper, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, and National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien, all of whom were behind the plan after Pompeo shared it with them ahead of the meeting.
"Oh my gosh, it was really something," Pompeo said.
"Think about this: This is a handful of days before Covid begins to become something that the American people are thinking about, and we knew that we had this secret operation that we were briefing the president on," he added. "We had told him about this before, it wasn't brand new to him, so he had been briefed on various different alternatives, but, for the first time, we actually had the laydown - the actual model that could deliver the outcome. So we briefed him. We informed him of the risks. There were those who said, 'The Iranians will attack us all over in America and Europe. They'll attack American interests around the world,' but we were convinced we laid the groundwork to prevent that."
"And it was really something, when we were getting up to walk out, I reminded the president that the strike was going to be at Baghdad International Airport (BIAP) and that we had not taken a strike like this at a commercial airfield before, where there was commercial traffic. [Trump] basically turned to me and said, 'Don't F it up, don't mess it up,'" Pompeo laughed. "And the good news is we didn't. We got it right, we took out Soleimani, there was no collateral damage. We had convinced not only the Iranians but the Chinese and the North Koreans that we were serious about protecting the things that mattered and made a really -- it was quite a briefing. We flew back here. It took us another three and half days to line it all up, and the mission was executed in early January of '20."
While recounting some of the backdoor diplomacy that preceded and followed the fatal strike on Soleimani, Pompeo noted that on January 7, 2020, Iran retaliated with strikes on Al-Assad Air Base in Iraq, which was hosting American troops, resulting in some servicemembers being injured, but no deaths.
"In the book, I write about a letter that we had transmitted to Soleimani previously making clear, 'You got to stop this.' And had we not backed up that with deeds, then we would have been in a really bad way that in the event when it came to be. We made clear to the Iranians that this was our strike. They responded after the strike at al-Assad where there were a handful of Americans injured, it breaks my heart, serious stuff, but it wasn't World War III, and we didn't end up with conflict -- in fact, just the opposite," said Pompeo. "That strike enabled what became the Abraham Accords because the Gulf Arab States came to say, 'Hey Pompeo, Trump -- these guys are serious about the things they promised, and they're going to deliver.'"
"I was really troubled Nancy Pelosi wasn't happy," he added. "By the way, you can see comments from Joe Biden, he thought this was stupid as well. They just misunderstand American power. They think American power comes from deploying 40,000 somewhere across the world. American power comes from clarity and action, following up on the thing you're going to do, and when we did that, they understood we were serious, and we did not get the blowback that they had feared. We were fundamentally right, and we created more strength and prosperity for the United States of American as a result of the strike that we took."
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shark_nm ::
Že dva če ne tri dni vem o tem pa počasi curlja v medije.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/30/midd...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/30/midd...
fikus_ ::
Ko bo pa Iran kaj vrnil, bo pa jok in stok, pardon ne, tedaj se bomo pa zgražali, ter navijali, da jim Izraelci čim prej vrnejo.
Čuden je ta svet, eni lahko, drugi ne.
PS Iran je diktatura, ampak to še ne pomeni, da lahko počnemo, kar koli si namislimo. Proxy vojne se gre tudi zahod, zato to ni upravičen razlog, ali pač?!
Čuden je ta svet, eni lahko, drugi ne.
PS Iran je diktatura, ampak to še ne pomeni, da lahko počnemo, kar koli si namislimo. Proxy vojne se gre tudi zahod, zato to ni upravičen razlog, ali pač?!
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fulk ::
Čuden je samo zato ker ljudje si nočejo dopovedat, da so bili indoktrinirani, že zelo zgodaj.
A. Smith ::
Iran ima 84% obogaten uran - le še vprašanje časa, kdaj bodo naredili bombo.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea...
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea...
"Be professional, be polite,
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis
fikus_ ::
Kako vedo, da gre za 84% uran? Merijo moč sevanja?
Ko so amerikanci enostransko odpovedali sporazum, od tedaj Iranci niso več zavezani, da ne bogatijo urana. EU se je se nekaj trudila, poskusala ignorirati sankcije, pa so usa zagrozila podjetjem, ki bi gospodarsko sodelovala z Iranom, tako da je sporazum šel na smetišče zgodovine.
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Vsekakor bo se pestro.
Ko so amerikanci enostransko odpovedali sporazum, od tedaj Iranci niso več zavezani, da ne bogatijo urana. EU se je se nekaj trudila, poskusala ignorirati sankcije, pa so usa zagrozila podjetjem, ki bi gospodarsko sodelovala z Iranom, tako da je sporazum šel na smetišče zgodovine.
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Vsekakor bo se pestro.
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fikus_ ::
Kje sem pisal, da me je strah?!
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fulk ::
Sicer ne opravičujem Iranskega režima, ampak primarni razlog zakaj smo mi z Iranom skregani je zato, ker Judeja nam tako diktira.
Zakaj nam to lahko diktira, pa prepuščam v razmislek pametnejšim od mene.
Iran bi lahko bil ekonomski partner.
Zakaj nam to lahko diktira, pa prepuščam v razmislek pametnejšim od mene.
Iran bi lahko bil ekonomski partner.
A. Smith ::
"Be professional, be polite,
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis
fikus_ ::
Sem prebral že zgoraj. OK, vzorci.
Torej Iran le sodeluje z IAEA, jim omogoča preglede in jemanje vzorcev.
Torej Iran le sodeluje z IAEA, jim omogoča preglede in jemanje vzorcev.
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Malidelničar ::
Ta je najboljša iz Twitterja:
"Who the hell do we cheer for in a Iran vs Taliban War? I guess I wish both sides well in wiping out as many of the other as possible."
"Who the hell do we cheer for in a Iran vs Taliban War? I guess I wish both sides well in wiping out as many of the other as possible."
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.
fikus_ ::
Tu potem ne drži rek "sovražnik mojega sovražnika je moj prijatelj".
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Tidule ::
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Ta je najboljša iz Twitterja:
"Who the hell do we cheer for in a Iran vs Taliban War? I guess I wish both sides well in wiping out as many of the other as possible."
Malo prezgodaj je sanjat o vojni samo zato ker se je pet fanatikov streljalo na meji.
fulk ::
Kdo kaj spremlja retoriko ZDA (Izraela) proti Iranu?
Jastrebi so že ustvarili nov "axis of evil" za GenZ generacijo, ki ni poznala starega axis of evil.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/26/12084564...
Poleg letalonosilk, ki jih je Izrael naročil v regijo, je pred parimi dnevi tja prispelo 50 vojaških transportnih letal njihovega vazala.
ZDA že delajo sortije nad Iransko podprtimi milicami v Siriji.
Zionistični krščanski pridigarji že pumpajo, sicer ostarele boomerje, k vojni z Iranom. Tudi Ben Shapiro se fanj trudi.
Je pa tako, da GenZ ni sposobna biti na bojišču in je tudi preveč ___-pilled, in ne želi več umirati za Izrael kot tiste pred njo. Zato je opaziti, da pozivi osivelih mož k uničenju sovražnikov njihovega največjega zaveznika, nimajo več takega efekta kot so pričakovali. V kolikor bodo želeli spromovirati to vojno, bodo morali postati kreativni. Recimo, shekati Fortnight serverje in okriviti Iran.
Istočasno so govorice, da Iran že ima dovolj oplemenitenega urana za nukico. Severna koreja ima že številne nukice in konstantno grozi južni koreji, ampak ta ni "njihov (od ZDA) največji zaveznik, ki ga bodo podpirali tudi, če sami razpadejo" zato nikogar ne briga.
Kaj menite?
Jastrebi so že ustvarili nov "axis of evil" za GenZ generacijo, ki ni poznala starega axis of evil.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/26/12084564...
Poleg letalonosilk, ki jih je Izrael naročil v regijo, je pred parimi dnevi tja prispelo 50 vojaških transportnih letal njihovega vazala.
ZDA že delajo sortije nad Iransko podprtimi milicami v Siriji.
Zionistični krščanski pridigarji že pumpajo, sicer ostarele boomerje, k vojni z Iranom. Tudi Ben Shapiro se fanj trudi.
Je pa tako, da GenZ ni sposobna biti na bojišču in je tudi preveč ___-pilled, in ne želi več umirati za Izrael kot tiste pred njo. Zato je opaziti, da pozivi osivelih mož k uničenju sovražnikov njihovega največjega zaveznika, nimajo več takega efekta kot so pričakovali. V kolikor bodo želeli spromovirati to vojno, bodo morali postati kreativni. Recimo, shekati Fortnight serverje in okriviti Iran.
Istočasno so govorice, da Iran že ima dovolj oplemenitenega urana za nukico. Severna koreja ima že številne nukice in konstantno grozi južni koreji, ampak ta ni "njihov (od ZDA) največji zaveznik, ki ga bodo podpirali tudi, če sami razpadejo" zato nikogar ne briga.
Kaj menite?
TezkoDihanje ::
ZDA že delajo sortije nad Iransko podprtimi milicami v Siriji.
Nekje si pozabil napisat, da je bilo do sedaj 12 napadov na nekaj ameriških baz v okolici s strani teh milic.
Čudn, sem mislil, da spremljaš bolj pozorno.
fikus_ ::
Sem zasledil novico, da so americani dostavili v Izrael nekaj airtankerjev, ce se bodo izraelci odlocili napasti Iran.
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49106 ::
Sem zasledil novico, da so americani dostavili v Izrael nekaj airtankerjev, ce se bodo izraelci odlocili napasti Iran.
Daj link do novice.
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Tidule ::
Sem zasledil novico, da so americani dostavili v Izrael nekaj airtankerjev, ce se bodo izraelci odlocili napasti Iran.
Malo na zemljevid poglej pa potem pridi neumnosti prodajat.
Mule imajo ocitno doma toliko tezav, da iscejo zunanje sovraznike.
Fikus je se dalec od mule.
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Jarno ::
Pakistan izvaja napade na teroristične skupine znotraj mej Irana.
https://n1info.si/novice/svet/pakistan-...
The mindset! (of Iran)
https://n1info.si/novice/svet/pakistan-...
The mindset! (of Iran)
#65W!
Chalky ::
IRAQI ARMED GROUP KATAIB HEZBOLLAH SUSPENDS MILITARY AND SECURITY OPERATIONS AGAINST US FORCES -STATEMENT
KATAIB HEZBOLLAH SAYS TOOK DECISION TO PREVENT 'ANY EMBARRASSMENT TO IRAQI GOVERNMENT' - STATEMENT
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/...
This is the group widely suspected of being behind the attack that killed US troops. A very interesting development.
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1752...
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1752...
BREAKING - HEZBOLLAH OF IRAQ: WE WILL STOP OUR ATTACKS ON THE AMERICANS
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/...
Očitno prihaja močan odgovor ameriške vojske. Nekaj dogajanja v zadnjih nekaj urah, 6 ameriških tankarjer USAF KC-135 je prispelo v Evropo in so v pripravljenosti. KC-135 so ponavadi namenjeni za bombnike B-2. Bojda bo prišlo do silovitega odgovora ki naj bi bil v intervalih vendar se še ne ve ali tudi znotraj Irana. Govori se da bi bila ena izmed opcij napad na iransko mornarico v Przijskem zalivu. Skratka tole se zna močno zakomplicirati.
KATAIB HEZBOLLAH SAYS TOOK DECISION TO PREVENT 'ANY EMBARRASSMENT TO IRAQI GOVERNMENT' - STATEMENT
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/...
This is the group widely suspected of being behind the attack that killed US troops. A very interesting development.
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1752...
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1752...
BREAKING - HEZBOLLAH OF IRAQ: WE WILL STOP OUR ATTACKS ON THE AMERICANS
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/...
Očitno prihaja močan odgovor ameriške vojske. Nekaj dogajanja v zadnjih nekaj urah, 6 ameriških tankarjer USAF KC-135 je prispelo v Evropo in so v pripravljenosti. KC-135 so ponavadi namenjeni za bombnike B-2. Bojda bo prišlo do silovitega odgovora ki naj bi bil v intervalih vendar se še ne ve ali tudi znotraj Irana. Govori se da bi bila ena izmed opcij napad na iransko mornarico v Przijskem zalivu. Skratka tole se zna močno zakomplicirati.
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Poldi112 ::
Dvomim, da imajo američani jajca za napad na iransko mornarico. Verjento bodo spet bombardirali "teroriste" v Siriji in Iraku, mogoče Jemnu.
Iran jim je nazadnje dal dobro demonstracijo, česa je sposoben, je pa po drugi strani tudi res, da so trenutno na čelu USA norci.
Iran jim je nazadnje dal dobro demonstracijo, česa je sposoben, je pa po drugi strani tudi res, da so trenutno na čelu USA norci.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
AgJ1 ::
Zalostno, da toliko cepcev podpira izraelsko nasilje. Tko, k da podpiras ruse in njihov preventivni napad na ukrajino.
Ni tako enostavno. Tudi odgovor na vprasanje ce je Izrael bully ni tako enostavno. Veckrat so bili napadeni od sosedov, pa so se ubranili.
Ni lahko biti obkrozen s sovraznimi drzavami.
Vbistvu je zlo enostavno. So buliji, ki izvajajo najmanj etnicno ciscenje in druge vojne zlocine prakticno na dnevni ravni.
Z amerisko pomocjo so prisli do ene najmocnejsih konvencionalnih vojsk in se jedersko orizje imajo. Res, bogi revezi. Drugega kot ubijanje palestinskih otrok, novinarjev,..., Jim Res NE preostane. Drugace, bi jih ze zradirali.
Aha, kaj so pa Arabci naredili z Judi in kristjani po severni Afriki in Bližnjem vzhodu te pa ne moti, de?
Dvomim, da imajo američani jajca za napad na iransko mornarico. Verjento bodo spet bombardirali "teroriste" v Siriji in Iraku, mogoče Jemnu.
Iran jim je nazadnje dal dobro demonstracijo, česa je sposoben, je pa po drugi strani tudi res, da so trenutno na čelu USA norci.
Američani lahko zradirajo Iran. Ampak ne morejo pa hkrati imeti na grbi še Kitajske in Rusije. Poleg tega se v Iranu krepi nasprotovanje nori oblasti in bombardiranje Irana in vse nedolžne žrtve le tega bi te procese ustavilo, tako da zagotovo bo odziv drugačen.
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fikus_ ::
Za radiranje Irana američani tam blizu rabijo eno konkretno s tehniko opremljeno oporišče na suhem, s skladišči orožja, rezervnih delov ,... , letalonosilke so premalo.
"poleg tega se v Iranu krepi nasprotovanje nori oblasti. ... "
To ti je povedal zahodni MSM.
Imajo težave, specifične za njihovo okolje, prav tako je njihova oblast nora, kot je to v navadi tam okrog. Ampak njih tvoj gospodar ne podpira, ker mu ne kimajo. Čez lužo, za nas praktično enak svet, pa je drugo podobno oblast tvoj gospodar celo do zob oborožil.
"poleg tega se v Iranu krepi nasprotovanje nori oblasti. ... "
To ti je povedal zahodni MSM.
Imajo težave, specifične za njihovo okolje, prav tako je njihova oblast nora, kot je to v navadi tam okrog. Ampak njih tvoj gospodar ne podpira, ker mu ne kimajo. Čez lužo, za nas praktično enak svet, pa je drugo podobno oblast tvoj gospodar celo do zob oborožil.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.