Zakaj so električni avtomobili prava stvar

Spock83 je 19. feb 2019 ob 11:54 izjavil:

A ti misliš, da namerno delajo na tem, da se avto pokvari in da pljuvajo v lastno skledo? :)

eAvto lahko komot primerjaš z računalniki oz še bolje z mobiteli. Čisto isto bo.

Meaning the car will be able to find you in a parking lot, pick you up and take you all the way to your destination without an intervention, this year. I would say I am of certain of that. That is not a question mark,

The plan was there. Volkswagen AG wanted to manufacture battery cells together with the Korean SK Innovation group and invest billions of euros in joint plants. The matter was to be decided before Christmas, and the Supervisory Board was in joyful anticipation.

The works councils were already dreaming of three gigafabriken in Germany alone; Emden perhaps, Salzgitter, and a place somewhere between Zwickau and Ingolstadt, all close to future electric car plants. It was to be the big one - and the only one in Germany so far.

While colleagues Dieter Zetsche (65; Daimler) and Harald Krüger (53; BMW) shy away from multi-billion investments, Volkswagen boss Herbert Diess (60) thinks differently. He wants to secure his spectacular electrification program. Diess wants to build up to three million electric cars in 2025, for which VW alone would need significantly more cells than are currently produced worldwide. And for 2030 VW even calculates a possible doubling to six million electric cars.

It is unthinkable that this will fail because there is a lack of battery cells - or because overpowering suppliers are raising prices. Before it becomes dependent, Diess prefers to produce itself, especially if - so the hope - the state helps with proper subsidies for the construction of the plants.

But however beautiful and big the plan may be, it is unexpectedly hitting reality hard. The existing suppliers want to chain their biggest customers to themselves. They defend themselves.

LG Chem in particular reacted annoyingly to the Wolfsburg independence movement. The Koreans threatened to stop supplying if VW enters production with SK Innovation. And possibly from now on. This is what managers who are familiar with the negotiations say. LG Chem commented that VW is an important customer, "independent of some rumors and other factors".

A delivery stop would be fatal. Over the next few years, the Koreans are to cover almost the entire cell demand of the car manufacturer, at least outside China. There is no readily available alternative.

Now the negotiations are being renegotiated. Every two weeks, Stefan Sommer (56), Chief Purchasing Officer, is currently in Korea. Talk to LG, talk to SK Innovation; appease, discuss alternatives.

The matter is urgent. Critics are already reporting to Volkswagen that cell production is too expensive for them. Sommer must deliver now. At least that's how Herbert Diess sees it.

Stari maček je 22. feb 2019 ob 23:49 izjavil:

Končno nek normalen EV s solidnim dometom.

Nikec3 je 24. feb 2019 ob 18:39 izjavil:

A bodo na Kitajskem "švabi" še sploh prodali kak avto?

Excellent. The only remaining question is how many batteries they have ordered for this and next year.
Also the question journalists should ask from every car maker at Geneva car show.

Najbrž bodo vsi ostali, ki Peugeot 208 tiščijo v supermini razred, bolje vedeli od tebe

Utk je 25. feb 2019 ob 11:49 izjavil:

Ja, če primerjaš cliota in ibizo, od zunaj sta skoraj enaka, not je pa razlika ogromna. Za cliota komot rečeš, da je pač majhen avto in je tako v redu, ampak ibiza je od zunaj podobna, not pa skoraj ne veš kam je bi dal, marsikater v razredu višje nima nič kaj več prostora. Lahko da bo ta pežo tudi v ICE varianti bolj tesen, ampak to je samo še tolk slabše zanj.

Zdaj pa samo zavisi kdo rabi več prostora, kdo bi se pa samo rad udobneje peljal.

Tist, ki rabi več prostora, si mora kupit nekaj bistveno večjega, tist, ki se bi rad samo bolje peljal, pa ne rabi prtljažnika niti v večjem. V vsakem primeru, ne moreš rečt, da je v tem razredu prtljažnik nepomemben ali manj pomemben kot v večjih razredih.

Utk je 25. feb 2019 ob 12:03 izjavil:

Za marsikoga lahko je, ne pa za tiste, ki jim je jasno, da bi električni avto moral imet kvečjemu večji prtljažnik, če bi bil prav narejen. Kot ima zoe večjega od cliota. Pežo pač ni resen.

WarpedGone je 25. feb 2019 ob 11:43 izjavil:

Najbrž bodo vsi ostali, ki Peugeot 208 tiščijo v supermini razred, bolje vedeli od tebe

Hja... po zunanjih dimenzijah stvar ni supermini, ... po notranjih pa je najbrž res. 4 metre in tolk placa kot v kakem Smartu ..

Utk je 25. feb 2019 ob 11:49 izjavil:

Tist, ki rabi več prostora, si mora kupit nekaj bistveno večjega, tist, ki se bi rad samo bolje peljal, pa ne rabi prtljažnika niti v večjem. V vsakem primeru, ne moreš rečt, da je v tem razredu prtljažnik nepomemben ali manj pomemben kot v večjih razredih.

PrimoZ_ je 25. feb 2019 ob 13:23 izjavil:

Kaže da dizli vseeno niso taki NOx onesnaževalci.

http://www.avtomanija.com/default.asp?r...

P.S. Vozim bencinarja, MPI klasiko.

Utk je 25. feb 2019 ob 13:28 izjavil:

Tudi če je to res (pa ADAC-u ne verjamem čisto nič), to samo pomeni, da dizli čez kakih 15 let morda ne bojo problem (bomo še videli kaj bojo naredili na tehničnih pregledih), ne pa da niso danes problem. Razen če takoj danes vse stare dizle sprešamo, kar se strinjam, da je neumnost. Ampak tudi rečt, da dizli niso problem, ker novi bojda niso problem, je neumnost, ker to poslušamo že 20 let.

Okapi je 25. feb 2019 ob 13:27 izjavil:

Utk je 25. feb 2019 ob 11:49 izjavil:

Tist, ki rabi več prostora, si mora kupit nekaj bistveno večjega, tist, ki se bi rad samo bolje peljal, pa ne rabi prtljažnika niti v večjem. V vsakem primeru, ne moreš rečt, da je v tem razredu prtljažnik nepomemben ali manj pomemben kot v večjih razredih.

Lahko rečeš, seveda. V večjem lahko pelješ 4-5 ljudi + njihovo prtljago v prtljažniku (ki mora biti dovolj velik), v manjšem pa lahko prtljago od 1-2 ljudi pelješ na zadnjih sedežih in prtljažnika v bistvu sploh ne potrebuješ (zato je nepomemben). Se pač moraš sprijaznit, da v malem ne moreš peljati hkrati 4 ljudi in njihove prtljage.

Karkoli "ne moreš" peljat v polu zelo verjetno ne moreš niti v golfu. Razlika v prtljažniku je minimalna, v kabini pa tudi ne ravno velika. Razlika je pri štirih odraslih velikih tam okoli 190 in več, vse drugo je približno isto sranje. Pa še tu je odvisno kako se bojo 4 veliki odrasli počutili v golfu.