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Tesla je nizala, ampak se vedno ko gledas autoscout24, nek model S ohranja ceno bolje kot iX. Ce dam v AI da analizira cene, dobim tole:

Tesla Model S Palladium vs BMW iX - German depreciation (2023-2026)

I compared 2023 examples of the Tesla Model S Palladium Dual Motor and BMW iX xDrive50 on the German used market, using roughly EUR100,000 as the starting price for both to make the comparison straightforward.

Tesla Model S Palladium

* Approx. 2023 price: EUR100k
* Current AutoScout24 asking prices for normal-mileage 2023 cars: roughly EUR66-74k
* Representative value today: ~EUR70k
* Depreciation: ~EUR30k / 30%
* Value retained: ~70%

BMW iX xDrive50

* Approx. 2023 price: EUR100-108k
* Current AutoScout24 asking prices: roughly EUR50-60k, with very low-mileage examples reaching the high EUR60ks
* Representative value today: ~EUR55k
* Depreciation from a normalized EUR100k starting point: ~EUR45k / 45%
* Value retained: ~55%

Bottom line: Based on current German asking prices, the 2023 Model S Palladium has held its value considerably better than the 2023 BMW iX xDrive50.

Starting both at EUR100k, a reasonable comparison today is approximately:

Model S: EUR100k -> EUR70k = -30%
BMW iX: EUR100k -> EUR55k = -45%

That's about EUR15,000 less depreciation for the Model S over roughly three years.

In l. 2023 zato, ker drugace nimas niti na tako velikem trgu skoraj nic zadetkov za Teslo. iX se je tam dosti bolj prodajal, pa je tudi to nek faktor seveda. Ponudba je vecja. Samo tudi v ZDA, ce pogledal linke, ni bilo bolje, ceprav je obratna situacija.

EU trg je enoten ali pač? V Avstriji je nekoliko več, še zmerom obvrlja moj argument, da kitajc naredi boljši avto za bistveno manj (pred tarifami)

Ne vem kaj misliš z "enotnim trgom". Amapk zadeva ni povsem trivialna. V Slovenijo pač ne moreš pripeljati MGja za 19 jurjev.

Kako točno tvoj argument obvelja pa tudi ne vem. Čisto možno, da Kitajc naredi kak model, ki je boljši od kakšnega drugega evropskega modela. Definitivno pa to ne velja za vse avtomobile.

jernejl je včeraj ob 16:14:54 izjavil:

codeMonkey je včeraj ob 15:40:30 izjavil:

Tesla je nizala, ampak se vedno ko gledas autoscout24, nek model S ohranja ceno bolje kot iX. Ce dam v AI da analizira cene, dobim tole:

Pa si ziher, da je AI upošteval dejansko prodajno ceno novih BMWjev z izpogajanimi popusti, ali je upošteval list price?

Sem podvomil, pa se mi dalo naprej pisati. Je zbrskal koliko popustov so dajali in prisel do zakljucka da je naslednji za fer primerjavo M60. Po ceni in tudi drugace, po karakteristikah.

The 2023 Model S Palladium appears to have retained value better than the BMW iX, but the difference is smaller than MSRP-based depreciation figures suggest.

A Model S bought for around EUR100k and worth roughly EUR65–74k today has lost around 30–35%.

A 2023 iX xDrive50 currently worth roughly EUR57–60k looks like it lost ~45% if compared with its EUR108k MSRP. However, BMW buyers commonly had access to dealer discounts. At a realistic 10–15% purchase discount, depreciation becomes roughly 36–39%; at a particularly strong 20% discount, it’s around 31% — essentially Model S territory.

The iX M60 still appears to have depreciated substantially more: even assuming a large 20% discount from its ~EUR143k MSRP, roughly EUR114k → EUR62k represents about 46% depreciation.

jernejl je včeraj ob 16:14:54 izjavil:

Če bodo drugo leto rabljeni za pol cene novih, vzamem oba :)

So zviti in delajo pocasen ramp-up. Tam, l. 2030, bi znali biti za pol cene. Odvisno od kitajske ponudbe in koliko jim bomo dvigali cene.