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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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wajdouc ::

sir_mha ::
Rusija očitno ne more zagotovit krompirja svojemu podložniku, Belorusiji. Pravzaprav ga ona preveć pokupi, ker ji enako primanjkuje, zato bo morala Belorusija sedaj ukiniti sankcije na uvoz krompirja.
To je esenca konflikta na vzhodu Evrope, ker pač v teh zadevah ljudje niso neumni. Ukrajinci in Belorusi vedo, da bi jim bilo bolje v EU, ne pa pod nesposobnimi wannabe imperialisti, ki znajo zgolj groziti.
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To je esenca konflikta na vzhodu Evrope, ker pač v teh zadevah ljudje niso neumni. Ukrajinci in Belorusi vedo, da bi jim bilo bolje v EU, ne pa pod nesposobnimi wannabe imperialisti, ki znajo zgolj groziti.
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skrtuh ::
ne gre za nobeno moralo, ampak samo za geopolitiko.
Potem naj nam pa naši politiki nehajo bučke prodajat...
Če še kdo slučajno dvomi za kaj se gre:
- Ukrepi EU po napadu Rusije. Četrti dan so Rusom že blokirali vse devizne rezerve.
- Mertz po napadu Izraela na Iran: "Israel has a right to defend itself..."
Krasni novi/nori svet in mi/EU smo zraven...
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Pac-Man ::
https://x.com/OlgaK2013/status/19344900...
Branilec Mariupola Pavlo Šatohin pred in po treh letih v ruskem ujetništvu. Zakaj si ljudje bojijo imenovati Putinov režim v Rusiji fašistični in ruske zapore za ukrajinske vojne ujetnike koncentracijska taborišča?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::
Ameriški investitor, ki je že dolgo blizu Kremlju, misli kupit Nord Stream
https://x.com/polidemitolog/status/1934...
nitka
https://x.com/Nadja72638243/status/1934...
Torta se mi je zdela fejk, ampak je na spletni strani berlinske fotografske agencije, predzadnja vrsta
https://www.aedt.de/photos/20240429-ger...
OK, po horoskopu je bik, žena pa IMO precej v teh sferah
Taurus (astrology) @ Wikipedia
https://x.com/polidemitolog/status/1934...
Ameriški finančnik Steven Lynch je v začetku maja upnikom poplačal dolg Nord Stream 2, da bi odkupil plinovod in zmanjšal ruski vpliv, s čimer bi lahko ruski plin v Evropo pritekel po formalno "ameriškem" plinovodu, navaja Zeit. Lynch, ki je v preteklosti lobiral za ruske interese, med drugim je leta 2000 neuspešno poskušal prenesti premoženje družbe Jukos pod nadzor Moskve, se je v Berlinu sestal, da bi razpravljal o nakupu in popravilu. Švicarsko sodišče v Zugu je 9. maja odobrilo dogovor o prestrukturiranju dolga Gazpromove družbe Nord Stream AG 2, podpisan 30. aprila, po stečajnem postopku, ki se je začel leta 2022.
nitka
https://x.com/Nadja72638243/status/1934...
Ali poznate vse obstoječe povezave?
Steven Lynch je stari prijatelj Boba Foresmana. 🧵 Ki je prijatelj Matthiasa Warniga... Tukaj je Warnig na rojstnodnevni zabavi Gerharda Schröderja. Z Matthiasom Mierschem, predsednikom SPD v nemškem parlamentu (Bundestagu). Naj vam pokažem rojstnodnevno torto Gerharda Schröderja.
Ti ljudje so nori... In Matthias Warnig je osebni prijatelj Vladimirja Putina. A to še ni konec zgodbe. Bob Foresman se je obrnil tudi na Trumpovo ekipo.
In to prek Marka Burnetta.
ki je še vedno blizu Trumpu.
Torta se mi je zdela fejk, ampak je na spletni strani berlinske fotografske agencije, predzadnja vrsta
https://www.aedt.de/photos/20240429-ger...
OK, po horoskopu je bik, žena pa IMO precej v teh sferah
Taurus (astrology) @ Wikipedia
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Pithlit ::
ne gre za nobeno moralo, ampak samo za geopolitiko.
Potem naj nam pa naši politiki nehajo bučke prodajat...
Če še kdo slučajno dvomi za kaj se gre:
- Ukrepi EU po napadu Rusije. Četrti dan so Rusom že blokirali vse devizne rezerve.
- Mertz po napadu Izraela na Iran: "Israel has a right to defend itself..."
Krasni novi/nori svet in mi/EU smo zraven...
Ti veš kaka je razlika med Ukrajino pa Iranom? Ti povem... Ukrajina nad Moskvo ni poslala 2000 raket.
Life is as complicated as we make it...

tikitoki ::
ne gre za nobeno moralo, ampak samo za geopolitiko.
Potem naj nam pa naši politiki nehajo bučke prodajat...
Če še kdo slučajno dvomi za kaj se gre:
- Ukrepi EU po napadu Rusije. Četrti dan so Rusom že blokirali vse devizne rezerve.
- Mertz po napadu Izraela na Iran: "Israel has a right to defend itself..."
Krasni novi/nori svet in mi/EU smo zraven...
Ti veš kaka je razlika med Ukrajino pa Iranom? Ti povem... Ukrajina nad Moskvo ni poslala 2000 raket.
Rusi tudi niso izvedli kupa atentatov in pobili kupa civilistov, nato pa uporabili civiliste za živi ščit s postavitvijo tarč vi gosto naseljeno področje.

windigo ::
Torej Iran je zaprl Hormuz, cena nafte bo šla v nebo in povpraševanje po ruski nafti enako. Putin bo lahko naprej financiral vojno v Ukrajini in dokler ima odprt severni prehod, mu razen ZDA z direktno podmorniško vojno, nihče kaj dosti ne more. A bomo že pozimi gledali piratske napade na ruske tankerje s strani evropskih mornaric v imenu sankcij?
Ceterum censeo Balandeque fascistum esse

kow ::
Ocitno bo potrebno uniciti vec ruske naftne infrastrukture. Saudijci in ameriski naftarji bodo navduseni. Norveska bo imela ogromne profite s katerimi bo lahko financirala Ukrajino.

fikus_ ::
Dovolj da občasno izstreli kakšno protiladijsko raketo, zavarovalnice ne bodo krile škode,.... in ožina je zaprta.
Podobno kot Hutiji.
Podobno kot Hutiji.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
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bbbbbb2024 ::
In se s tem še bolj zameri ostalim zalivskim državam.
Tako je. Iranski režim je na zelo spolzkih tleh. Do ene mere se je tja spravil sam, že to, da podpira vse teroriste (npr. Hutije) je v izhodišču, ki je zelo podobno Gadafijevemu.
Gadafi ni naredil ene poteze, da bi raspizdil vse. Z enopotezo je raspizdil UK/ZDA, z drugo je raspizdil Maroko, s tretjo Itaijo, pa tako...
Na koncu je imel samo še napleskano tarčo na čelu.
Zdi se mi, da iranski režim čaka podobna usoda.

mtosev ::
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Eduardo ::
Tu se lepo vidi kako zanič je v bistvu ruska vojska. Ko Izrael dobi zračno dominacijo v nekaj dneh, Rusija pa ne v letih, kjer je Iran dosti močnejši od Ukrajine, ko je bila napadena. Tole zna kar lepo streznit Rusijo, v bistvu lahko kar nehajo. Proti zahodnem techu več kot očitno ni nobenih šans.

endelin ::
Ukrajinci bodo po vojni po zgledu Izraela lovili ruske nacije

Ukrajinske obveščevalne službe (SBU in vojaška GUR) so v zadnjem času Rusiji zadale hude vojaške udarce, kot je napad z droni na ruska letališča s strateškimi bombniki. Ukrajinski obveščevalci napovedujejo, da se bo njihovo pravo delo začelo šele po koncu vojne, ko se bo začelo kaznovanje tistih Rusov, ki so zagrešili zločine proti Ukrajincem. Pri tem se Ukrajinci zgledujejo po izraelskem Mosadu.

Eduardo ::
Malo gledam kaj so pičistili v Iranu, Rusijo bo morala malo spremeniti definicije opreme. S po novem pomeni Suicide Booth, T Target Practice ...
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Malidelničar ::
Spremlja kdo, so Ukrajinci že obkolili Tyotkino (tam na severu, čez mejo s Kurskom)?
Don't invest like a Joe. Invest like a Simon.

Pithlit ::
ne gre za nobeno moralo, ampak samo za geopolitiko.
Potem naj nam pa naši politiki nehajo bučke prodajat...
Če še kdo slučajno dvomi za kaj se gre:
- Ukrepi EU po napadu Rusije. Četrti dan so Rusom že blokirali vse devizne rezerve.
- Mertz po napadu Izraela na Iran: "Israel has a right to defend itself..."
Krasni novi/nori svet in mi/EU smo zraven...
Ti veš kaka je razlika med Ukrajino pa Iranom? Ti povem... Ukrajina nad Moskvo ni poslala 2000 raket.
Rusi tudi niso izvedli kupa atentatov in pobili kupa civilistov, nato pa uporabili civiliste za živi ščit s postavitvijo tarč vi gosto naseljeno področje.
Your point? Rusija ja samo napadla (par sekund po tem ko je vehementno zatrjevala da ne bo)... brez kakršnegakoli razloga (razen land grab).
Je majhna razlika, ja.
Life is as complicated as we make it...

o0o0o0o0o0 ::
Najmočnejša vojska v akciji
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide...
in pa darilo za heroja
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide...
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide...
in pa darilo za heroja
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVide...

bm1973 ::
S čim naj bi pa Iran zaprl Hormuz?
Simple, mine...
Take in drugačne...
Malidelničar je izjavil:
Spremlja kdo, so Ukrajinci že obkolili Tyotkino (tam na severu, čez mejo s Kurskom)?
Jap, pač ena mala zabačena vas...
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Telbanc ::
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/193...
"Russia Returns Final Batch of Fallen Ukrainian Soldiers
As per the Istanbul agreement, Russia has returned a total of 6,060 bodies of Ukrainian soldiers to Kiev. In exchange, Ukraine handed over the remains of 78 Russian servicemen.
Russia has also declared its readiness to transfer another 2,239 bodies to Ukraine."
Torej čaka jih še nekaj več kot 2000.
"Russia Returns Final Batch of Fallen Ukrainian Soldiers
As per the Istanbul agreement, Russia has returned a total of 6,060 bodies of Ukrainian soldiers to Kiev. In exchange, Ukraine handed over the remains of 78 Russian servicemen.
Russia has also declared its readiness to transfer another 2,239 bodies to Ukraine."
Torej čaka jih še nekaj več kot 2000.
Hvala bogu, nisem cepljen za covid-19.

Stane2 ::
https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/19...
Russians offered to exchange Ukrainian children for their soldiers. This is madness, - Zelensky
Russians offered to exchange Ukrainian children for their soldiers. This is madness, - Zelensky

Pac-Man ::
https://bsky.app/profile/tendar.bsky.so...
Pred kratkim sem objavil, da Rusi večinsko podpirajo režim mul v Iranu. Ti Rusi za dogodke v Iranu krivijo celo Ukrajince.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

esel ::
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/193...
"Russia Returns Final Batch of Fallen Ukrainian Soldiers
As per the Istanbul agreement, Russia has returned a total of 6,060 bodies of Ukrainian soldiers to Kiev. In exchange, Ukraine handed over the remains of 78 Russian servicemen.
Russia has also declared its readiness to transfer another 2,239 bodies to Ukraine."
Torej čaka jih še nekaj več kot 2000.
Ali ti pajac sploh veš kaj limaš in kaj to pomeni.
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floyd1 ::
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/193...
"Russia Returns Final Batch of Fallen Ukrainian Soldiers
As per the Istanbul agreement, Russia has returned a total of 6,060 bodies of Ukrainian soldiers to Kiev. In exchange, Ukraine handed over the remains of 78 Russian servicemen.
Russia has also declared its readiness to transfer another 2,239 bodies to Ukraine."
Torej čaka jih še nekaj več kot 2000.
Ali ti pajac sploh veš kaj limaš in kaj to pomeni.
Pomeni, da so med nami bolani ljudje, ki drk*** na trupla. Že nekaj dni in to po večkrat dnevno. Nekrofilija je huda stvar, forum pa gotovo ni pravi prostor za zdravljenje.

bbbbbb2024 ::
Tu se lepo vidi kako zanič je v bistvu ruska vojska. Ko Izrael dobi zračno dominacijo v nekaj dneh, Rusija pa ne v letih, kjer je Iran dosti močnejši od Ukrajine, ko je bila napadena. Tole zna kar lepo streznit Rusijo, v bistvu lahko kar nehajo. Proti zahodnem techu več kot očitno ni nobenih šans.
Izrael je prvi dan napadel cca 30% vseh AA postojank Irana in to ne tako, da so poslali manevrirno raketo, ki je končala 7km stran v visokem civilnem bloku, ampak prav vidiš kako se radar "Nebo" obrača, pifff in ni več nič. Izraelci so zelo pogumno uporabili F-35 in kot vse kaže, jih Iranci niso uspeli zaznati.
Izraelci bodo verjetno, potem, kar so naredili v Siriji, uničili vse, kar lahko kakorkoli ogrozi aviacijo.
Dejansko je ruska oprema, komparativno, blef. Ima pa Izrael, seveda, tudi dosti več denarja za to. In verjetno so, za razliko od Rusov, študirali Irance dolge mesece. Rusi so pošiljali bombnike Su-34, s koordinatami načečkanimi v blokec pilota, nad staro (zapuščeno) AA instalacijo Ukrajincev. In so Ukrajinci sestrelil Su34 in povlekli okrvavljenega deduško iz aviona in niso mogli verjeti, da je imel deduška vse koordinate v blokcu. In ko so te koordinate vpisali v Google maps, je bilo cca 40% zapuščenih Sovjetskih instalacij. V bistvu celo čez 50% ker so Ukrajinci nekatere instalacije zapustili, ker so vedeli za napad. Izraelci so v tem oziru profesionalci.
Kritika Rusov je povsem na mestu.
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sir_mha ::
Imamo dva bolnika, en narcis in drug zamerljivec, oba pa megalomana. Ampak lezenje v rit sadistu je pa next level. Zaenkrat je dobil samo to čast, da lahko sedi ob njemu in se z njim pogovarja.
"You wouldn't have this war right now if you had Russia. That was a mistake. Putin talks to me -- he doesn't want to talk to anyone else. He feels insulted because they threw him out of the G8. And I get it -- I would've felt insulted too. So would you. Anyone would," said the U.S. President ahead of the G7 summit.

redtech ::
Še v številkah... Iran je nekaj svojega uspel narediti v zadnjih letih. Ukrajina je vmes dobila, Patriote in vso drugo navlako iz zahoda...
Ukraine's Air Defense Before 2022
According to the Military Balance 2021 report, Ukraine operated:
kyivindependent.com
+1
indiandefencereview.com
+1
250 S-300P/PS/PT systems (SA-10 Grumble): These long-range systems formed the backbone of Ukraine's air defense, capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously.
72 Buk-M1 systems (SA-11 Gadfly): Medium-range systems designed to counter aircraft and missiles.
Short-range systems: Including S-125 Pechora (SA-3 Goa), Tor-M1, Osa-AKM, Strela-10, and Tunguska, which provided layered defense against various aerial threats.
theins.ru
+4
kyivindependent.com
+4
indiandefencereview.com
+4
These systems were integrated into a networked air defense structure, enhancing their effectiveness.
Iran's Air Defense Before 2022
Iran's air defense capabilities have evolved over the years, incorporating both imported and indigenous systems:
S-300 systems: Iran received four battalions of Russian S-300PMU-2 systems in 2016, enhancing its long-range defense capabilities.
Bavar-373: An Iranian-developed long-range system, operational since 2019, designed to rival the S-300 and Patriot systems.
Mersad: A medium-range system developed by Iran, utilizing Shahin missiles, and operational since 2010.
Raad and Ya Zahra: Short-range systems developed by Iran, enhancing its layered defense strategy.
While Iran has developed a diverse array of air defense systems, the exact number of units in service before 2022 is not publicly disclosed.
Na drugi strani Izrael
?ANALYSIS OF 10-LAYER SYSTEM GUARDING ISRAEL?
Israeli airspace is protected by one of the most advanced and comprehensive missile defense networks in the world. Any missile launched from Iran ?? must survive a series of global and regional interception layers before even approaching Israel's borders.
? Global Layers of Missile Defense:
1 -- ?? U.S. Military Systems in Iraq:
Ground-based air defense platforms and radar systems capable of early threat detection and engagement.
2 -- ?? French Rafale Jets:
Operating with Saudi ?? airspace access, able to intercept long-range threats in coordination with NATO intelligence.
3 -- ?? USS Carl Vinson Strike Group
Armed with AEGIS-equipped destroyers and missile interceptors, forming a sea-based layer of defense.
4 -- ?? U.S. THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense)
Deployed in Israel by the U.S., THAAD adds a crucial high-altitude interception layer capable of neutralizing ballistic missiles during their terminal phase.
5 -- ?? Jordanian & ?? U.S. Air Defense in Jordan
Patriot missile batteries and integrated radar coverage strengthen regional defense corridors.
6 -- ?? British RAF Fighters from ?? Cyprus
Rapid interception capacity across Eastern Mediterranean airspace.
Israel's Domestic Missile Shield:
7 -- Arrow-3
Exo-atmospheric (space-based) interceptor targeting long-range ballistic missiles up to 2,000 km.
8 -- Arrow-2
Designed for endo-atmospheric (re-entry) interception of intermediate-range threats.
9 -- David's Sling
Optimized for medium-range cruise and ballistic missile threats.
10 -- Iron Dome
Short-range, high-frequency interceptor system designed to protect civilian areas from rockets and mortars.
These layers create an integrated and overlapping missile defense architecture. With this multi-tiered shield in place, any incoming missile must overcome not just physical defenses -- but also a coalition-backed, real-time response network spanning thousands of kilometers.
Still, Iran's homegrown missiles, developed under decades of sanctions are able to tear through each and every layer and strike targets. Showing, no AD is 100% efficient
Ukraine's Air Defense Before 2022
According to the Military Balance 2021 report, Ukraine operated:
kyivindependent.com
+1
indiandefencereview.com
+1
250 S-300P/PS/PT systems (SA-10 Grumble): These long-range systems formed the backbone of Ukraine's air defense, capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously.
72 Buk-M1 systems (SA-11 Gadfly): Medium-range systems designed to counter aircraft and missiles.
Short-range systems: Including S-125 Pechora (SA-3 Goa), Tor-M1, Osa-AKM, Strela-10, and Tunguska, which provided layered defense against various aerial threats.
theins.ru
+4
kyivindependent.com
+4
indiandefencereview.com
+4
These systems were integrated into a networked air defense structure, enhancing their effectiveness.
Iran's Air Defense Before 2022
Iran's air defense capabilities have evolved over the years, incorporating both imported and indigenous systems:
S-300 systems: Iran received four battalions of Russian S-300PMU-2 systems in 2016, enhancing its long-range defense capabilities.
Bavar-373: An Iranian-developed long-range system, operational since 2019, designed to rival the S-300 and Patriot systems.
Mersad: A medium-range system developed by Iran, utilizing Shahin missiles, and operational since 2010.
Raad and Ya Zahra: Short-range systems developed by Iran, enhancing its layered defense strategy.
While Iran has developed a diverse array of air defense systems, the exact number of units in service before 2022 is not publicly disclosed.
Na drugi strani Izrael
?ANALYSIS OF 10-LAYER SYSTEM GUARDING ISRAEL?
Israeli airspace is protected by one of the most advanced and comprehensive missile defense networks in the world. Any missile launched from Iran ?? must survive a series of global and regional interception layers before even approaching Israel's borders.
? Global Layers of Missile Defense:
1 -- ?? U.S. Military Systems in Iraq:
Ground-based air defense platforms and radar systems capable of early threat detection and engagement.
2 -- ?? French Rafale Jets:
Operating with Saudi ?? airspace access, able to intercept long-range threats in coordination with NATO intelligence.
3 -- ?? USS Carl Vinson Strike Group
Armed with AEGIS-equipped destroyers and missile interceptors, forming a sea-based layer of defense.
4 -- ?? U.S. THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense)
Deployed in Israel by the U.S., THAAD adds a crucial high-altitude interception layer capable of neutralizing ballistic missiles during their terminal phase.
5 -- ?? Jordanian & ?? U.S. Air Defense in Jordan
Patriot missile batteries and integrated radar coverage strengthen regional defense corridors.
6 -- ?? British RAF Fighters from ?? Cyprus
Rapid interception capacity across Eastern Mediterranean airspace.
Israel's Domestic Missile Shield:
7 -- Arrow-3
Exo-atmospheric (space-based) interceptor targeting long-range ballistic missiles up to 2,000 km.
8 -- Arrow-2
Designed for endo-atmospheric (re-entry) interception of intermediate-range threats.
9 -- David's Sling
Optimized for medium-range cruise and ballistic missile threats.
10 -- Iron Dome
Short-range, high-frequency interceptor system designed to protect civilian areas from rockets and mortars.
These layers create an integrated and overlapping missile defense architecture. With this multi-tiered shield in place, any incoming missile must overcome not just physical defenses -- but also a coalition-backed, real-time response network spanning thousands of kilometers.
Still, Iran's homegrown missiles, developed under decades of sanctions are able to tear through each and every layer and strike targets. Showing, no AD is 100% efficient
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Pac-Man ::
Tole je bilo javljanje dopisnika NBC iz Mariupola 24.2.2022, 3 minute
Russia Launches Attack On Ukraine Overnight
Russia Launches Attack On Ukraine Overnight
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

sir_mha ::
Še v številkah... Iran je nekaj svojega uspel narediti v zadnjih letih. Ukrajina je vmes dobila, Patriote in vso drugo navlako iz zahoda...
Ukraine's Air Defense Before 2022
According to the Military Balance 2021 report, Ukraine operated:
kyivindependent.com
+1
indiandefencereview.com
+1
250 S-300P/PS/PT systems (SA-10 Grumble): These long-range systems formed the backbone of Ukraine's air defense, capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously.
72 Buk-M1 systems (SA-11 Gadfly): Medium-range systems designed to counter aircraft and missiles.
Short-range systems: Including S-125 Pechora (SA-3 Goa), Tor-M1, Osa-AKM, Strela-10, and Tunguska, which provided layered defense against various aerial threats.
theins.ru
+4
kyivindependent.com
+4
indiandefencereview.com
+4
These systems were integrated into a networked air defense structure, enhancing their effectiveness.
Iran's Air Defense Before 2022
Iran's air defense capabilities have evolved over the years, incorporating both imported and indigenous systems:
S-300 systems: Iran received four battalions of Russian S-300PMU-2 systems in 2016, enhancing its long-range defense capabilities.
Bavar-373: An Iranian-developed long-range system, operational since 2019, designed to rival the S-300 and Patriot systems.
Mersad: A medium-range system developed by Iran, utilizing Shahin missiles, and operational since 2010.
Raad and Ya Zahra: Short-range systems developed by Iran, enhancing its layered defense strategy.
While Iran has developed a diverse array of air defense systems, the exact number of units in service before 2022 is not publicly disclosed.
Na drugi strani Izrael
?ANALYSIS OF 10-LAYER SYSTEM GUARDING ISRAEL?
Israeli airspace is protected by one of the most advanced and comprehensive missile defense networks in the world. Any missile launched from Iran ?? must survive a series of global and regional interception layers before even approaching Israel's borders.
? Global Layers of Missile Defense:
1 -- ?? U.S. Military Systems in Iraq:
Ground-based air defense platforms and radar systems capable of early threat detection and engagement.
2 -- ?? French Rafale Jets:
Operating with Saudi ?? airspace access, able to intercept long-range threats in coordination with NATO intelligence.
3 -- ?? USS Carl Vinson Strike Group
Armed with AEGIS-equipped destroyers and missile interceptors, forming a sea-based layer of defense.
4 -- ?? U.S. THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense)
Deployed in Israel by the U.S., THAAD adds a crucial high-altitude interception layer capable of neutralizing ballistic missiles during their terminal phase.
5 -- ?? Jordanian & ?? U.S. Air Defense in Jordan
Patriot missile batteries and integrated radar coverage strengthen regional defense corridors.
6 -- ?? British RAF Fighters from ?? Cyprus
Rapid interception capacity across Eastern Mediterranean airspace.
Israel's Domestic Missile Shield:
7 -- Arrow-3
Exo-atmospheric (space-based) interceptor targeting long-range ballistic missiles up to 2,000 km.
8 -- Arrow-2
Designed for endo-atmospheric (re-entry) interception of intermediate-range threats.
9 -- David's Sling
Optimized for medium-range cruise and ballistic missile threats.
10 -- Iron Dome
Short-range, high-frequency interceptor system designed to protect civilian areas from rockets and mortars.
These layers create an integrated and overlapping missile defense architecture. With this multi-tiered shield in place, any incoming missile must overcome not just physical defenses -- but also a coalition-backed, real-time response network spanning thousands of kilometers.
Still, Iran's homegrown missiles, developed under decades of sanctions are able to tear through each and every layer and strike targets. Showing, no AD is 100% efficient
Kva si to svoje poročilo za kremlin nalimal v en post?

redtech ::
Da je imela Ukrajina zelo dobro zračno obrambo, tukaj pa jo primerjate z iransko...
Izraelska pa kot primerjava za najboljšo.
Izraelska pa kot primerjava za najboljšo.
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bbbbbb2024 ::
Da je imela Ukrajina zelo dobro zračno obrambo, tukaj pa jo primerjate z iransko...
Izraelska pa kot primerjava za najboljšo.
Ukrajinska obramba pred 2022 je bila kup ruske krame, še S-300 sistemi so bili letnik 1985. Ukrajina je imela luknjo tam med 1991 in 2010.
Ni čuda, da so Rusi mislili, da jih bodo zlahka dali čez koleno.
Ukrajinci sami so rekli, da imajo srečo, da so Rusi tako butasti. To vse, kar imajo Rusi modernega, to je vse za vzorec.
To se sploh ne da primerjati z Izraelci.
Iranci pa so imeli dosti modernejše ruske opreme, samo ne vem, kazalo je IR sliko radarjev, eden za drugim izginjali v oblaku. Izraelci lahko zbirajo, če bodo njihovega iranskega mulo spakirali v prekomando ali ne.
Zato je vseeno za ugotoviti, da je ruska oprema v glavem crap.
Indijci so skrivnostno tiho o karakteristikah S-400.
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Comandante ::
Zato je vseeno za ugotoviti, da je ruska oprema v glavem crap.
Mislim, da upad ruskega izvoza orožja pove največ. Iz že tako mizernih $10-15B letno med 2000 in 2020 so uspeli priti na $1B lansko leto. Zdaj, ali sami potrošijo vse kar proizvedejo, ali pa nihče noče njihove robe.
2009-2013: High exports, peaking at $15.2B in 2012, driven by India, China, and oil-rich states.
2014-2018: Steady at ~$10B/year, reflecting a 17% decline due to sanctions and market shifts.
2019-2020: Further drop to ~$8B, as India and China diversified suppliers.
2021: Brief recovery to $14.6B, pre-Ukraine invasion.
2022-2024: Sharp collapse post-invasion, with 2024 at a historic low of ~$1B due to sanctions and domestic prioritization.
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Pithlit ::
Comandante je izjavil:
Zato je vseeno za ugotoviti, da je ruska oprema v glavem crap.
Mislim, da upad ruskega izvoza orožja pove največ. Iz že tako mizernih $10-15B letno med 2000 in 2020 so uspeli priti na $1B lansko leto. Zdaj, ali sami potrošijo vse kar proizvedejo, ali pa nihče noče njihove robe.
Oboje. Marsikomu se pošteno kolca ko vidi real world scenarije uporabe ruskega klumpa. Kolca se tistim ki so to kupovali, kolca se tistim ki so izdelovali kopije tega. In kolca se tistim ki so cel svoj R&D baziral na temu.
Life is as complicated as we make it...

Utk ::
No ja, tudi zahodni tanki so enako neuporabni.
Naredil se je ogromen shift in težko bi kdo to napovedal in šel all-in v drone recimo leta 2015, kaj šele prej. Orožje se pa planira leta in desetletja vnaprej.
Zdaj je jasno da na frotni folk nima več kaj delat. Droni v zraku, po tleh in v vodi, in precizne rakete ali pa vsaj vodene bombe od daleč. Pa kontra temu orožja, seveda.
Naredil se je ogromen shift in težko bi kdo to napovedal in šel all-in v drone recimo leta 2015, kaj šele prej. Orožje se pa planira leta in desetletja vnaprej.
Zdaj je jasno da na frotni folk nima več kaj delat. Droni v zraku, po tleh in v vodi, in precizne rakete ali pa vsaj vodene bombe od daleč. Pa kontra temu orožja, seveda.
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Pac-Man ::
video, 2 minutki
https://x.com/alyonapopova/status/19348...
https://x.com/alyonapopova/status/19348...
Naselje Gorny na Kurilih. Pred osemdesetimi leti je to ozemlje pripadalo Japonski. Zdaj tam uspeva velik imperij.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

bm1973 ::
Kurilski otoki so vojni plen po 2. svetovni vojni.
Nič nenavadnega...
Kot 5 vzhodnih poljskih pokrajin, ki so se priključile Ukrajini. Lvov je bil pred 2. svetovno vojno poljsko mesto.
Nič nenavadnega...
Kot 5 vzhodnih poljskih pokrajin, ki so se priključile Ukrajini. Lvov je bil pred 2. svetovno vojno poljsko mesto.

fikus_ ::
Še več JPN bi ZSSR zasedla, pa so Usa pohitele in Japonci tudi s kapitulacijo in podpisom mirovnega sporazuma.
Učite se iz preteklosti, živite v sedanjosti in razmišljajte o prihodnosti.
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!
PS Ne odgovarjam trolom in provokatorjem!

Pac-Man ::
Očitno nista pogledala videa, ker infrastruktura na spominja na Japonsko.
Podobno je v okupiranem delu Finske
From Finland to Filth: Welcome to Liberated Karelia 🇷🇺
So pa del velikega imperija.
Podobno je v okupiranem delu Finske
From Finland to Filth: Welcome to Liberated Karelia 🇷🇺
So pa del velikega imperija.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::
V drugih novicah, očitno mi je uspelo spisat 1. komentar pod današnji članek
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...
Vseeno ni šlo brez dodatnega truda. Nekaj časa je bil viden samo zdaj 2. komentar @8:47, sem moral administratorja pobarat naj ga objavi ali napiše kateri člen pravil krši.
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...
Vseeno ni šlo brez dodatnega truda. Nekaj časa je bil viden samo zdaj 2. komentar @8:47, sem moral administratorja pobarat naj ga objavi ali napiše kateri člen pravil krši.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Nachtigall ::
Comandante je izjavil:
Zato je vseeno za ugotoviti, da je ruska oprema v glavem crap.
Mislim, da upad ruskega izvoza oroĹžja pove najvec. Iz Ĺže tako mizernih $10-15B letno med 2000 in 2020 so uspeli priti na $1B lansko leto. Zdaj, ali sami potrosijo vse kar proizvedejo, ali pa nihce noce njihove robe.
Caki mal, a Rusi ceprav glede na strokovne vojaske analize nimajo prakticno nic vec orozja in si morajo sposojati/kupovati orozje iz SK in Irana, se vedno izvozijo za $1B orozja, pod nujhujsimi sankcijami do sedaj!?
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Machete ::
Ja, pač afrika drago kupuje zastarele sisteme.
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Nachtigall ::
BTW, kdo poroca to stevilko o izvozu ruskega orozja?
"Zanesljivi" anonimni zahodni analitiki?
"Zanesljivi" anonimni zahodni analitiki?

Machete ::
Ne, zanesljivi ruski državni analitiki.
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Nachtigall ::

kow ::
Nachtigall, bos kaj komentiral ruske vojne zlocine v Kijevu? Hvala!
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