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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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Pac-Man ::
iz članka, že na začetku je šlo vse narobe, Kalibri so bili vedno smeti
The Russians commenced their attack on February 24th with pre-assault strikes across the city, the airbase, and the infiltration corridor. Two 3M14 Kalibr cruise missiles struck Hostomel airport around 6 or 7 a.m. but proved ineffective. One missed the barracks and instead cratered a nearby parade field; the second missed a nearby residential building.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
tudi
The first Russian reinforcements were supposed to arrive by air. This force consisted of approximately 1,000 soldiers that had staged from an airbase in Pskov, Russia, approximately two hours (by air) from Hostomel. This force had loaded onto 18 Il-76 transport planes earlier in the day and appeared to be en route to Hostomel before the mission had to be aborted midair when the Russians failed to rapidly seize and secure the airfield. This was a pivotal moment in the then-nascent fight, but the reason why the Russian airborne abandoned their reinforcement plan is unclear. It may have been due to Ukrainian artillery fire targeting the airstrip, rendering it unusable, or it may have been the general inability of the Russian airborne to control the airfield. Alternatively, the Russian military may have been concerned about losing Il-76s due to residual air defenses after having lost 6-7 helicopters during the assault.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Strel455 ::
Če bodo par bataljonov Rusi tja poslali se bodo morali Ukrajinci umaknit ja, ampak potem je cilj divergacije enot dosežen. Če bodo Rusi tja poslali le bataljon ali dva pa ne bodo nazaj dobili Sudzhe (bo pa najbrž dovolj da Ukrajinci še česa več ne vzamejo). Če pa tja ne pošljejo nič (da vzdržujejo raje ostale fronte) je pa vse mogoče.
Ukrajinci imajo tam 6-8 brigad (več kot pol še vedno v Ukrajini), tako da tistih nekaj ruskih bataljonov se bo samo posralo v hlače. Trenutno držijo okoli 600km2 ruskega ozemlja.
Pac-Man ::
https://x.com/akihheikkinen/status/1821...
Finnish Helsingin Sanomat has some undercover journo in still russian-held Kursk region:
In city of Kursk air raid alerts every hour, sometimes even thrice. Planes flying, AA working. Those who have opportunity are leaving. Hotels full of refugees.
From Kursk twrd the border helis flying constantly, people hear them firing. Closer to the border "full hell" in Sudža from where people self-evacuated without any assistance.
In city people ignoring repeating air raid warnings, angry that region is not prepared at all.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Zajebana situacija se obeta. Boljše imet Ukrajince v mestu, kot pa Čečene, to je sigurno.
The situation in the Kursk Oblast encourages residents to join the fight and destroy the Russian army
https://x.com/TOGAjano21/status/1821985...
The situation in the Kursk Oblast encourages residents to join the fight and destroy the Russian army
https://x.com/TOGAjano21/status/1821985...
Okapi ::
To bi bila pa sploh krona na vse, če bi Ukrajince tam pozdravili kot osvoboditelje.
Saj po svoje bi bilo logično - čez par let bi bili v v EU.
Saj po svoje bi bilo logično - čez par let bi bili v v EU.
fur80 ::
Kar naenkrat so Z telegrami provokatorji, ki širijo paniko! :D Zanimivo, bodo Rusi prepovedali telegram! :D haha
Indeed, it is very funny how the rhetoric of propagandists changes.
Bellarussian propagandist Azarenok, in connection with the situation in the Kursk region, is trying to convince viewers to calm down, not to panic and wait.
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/18...
Indeed, it is very funny how the rhetoric of propagandists changes.
Bellarussian propagandist Azarenok, in connection with the situation in the Kursk region, is trying to convince viewers to calm down, not to panic and wait.
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/18...
Pac-Man ::
Zajebana situacija se obeta. Boljše imet Ukrajince v mestu, kot pa Čečene, to je sigurno.
The situation in the Kursk Oblast encourages residents to join the fight and destroy the Russian army
https://x.com/TOGAjano21/status/1821985...
Na žalost verjetno ukrajinska propaganda
https://opir.org.ua/
video z na povezavi omenjene strani:
Movement of resistance of Special Operations Forces
We are close. We are everywhere. Every day side by side with our own and behind the enemy - we are bringing Victory closer. We are the Special Operations Forces resistance movement.
Congratulations to our flock on the anniversary of its creation!
Join the resistance movement at opir.org.ua
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Zajebana situacija se obeta. Boljše imet Ukrajince v mestu, kot pa Čečene, to je sigurno.
The situation in the Kursk Oblast encourages residents to join the fight and destroy the Russian army
https://x.com/TOGAjano21/status/1821985...
Na žalost verjetno ukrajinska propaganda
https://opir.org.ua/
video z na povezavi omenjene strani:
Movement of resistance of Special Operations Forces
We are close. We are everywhere. Every day side by side with our own and behind the enemy - we are bringing Victory closer. We are the Special Operations Forces resistance movement.
Congratulations to our flock on the anniversary of its creation!
Join the resistance movement at opir.org.ua
Hehe, verjetno res ja. :D
bastadu ::
Jaz imam občutek, da je Vladimir Vladimirovič na nekih hudih pomirjevalih. Nekam nezainteresirano deluje in Ukrajinski napad na rusijo je označil samo za provokacijo. Oziroma verjetno gre za specialno vojaško operacijo v drugo smer. Proti Moskvi.
Pa ne samo on.
Kje ne Medvedjev in njegove grožnje?
Tokrat nič groženj z nukicami, sn kar rahlo razočaran
The German newspaper Bild has published a revanchist article where it proudly announces German tanks’ comeback to the Russian land. In response, we’re going to do everything to bring the newest Russian tanks to Platz d. Republik.
https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/sta...
Pac-Man ::
keri modeli, jao
https://x.com/victoriaslog/status/18219...
Ordinary Muscovites who are "against the war" called an 87-year-old man a fascist, beat him up, and took him to the police after he called Wagner mercenaries killers of women and children.
Sem se malo držal nazaj, ker bi lahko dedka tepla iz mnogih razlogov. Zdaj imamo kontekst:
https://x.com/KevinRothrock/status/1822...
Dmitry Grinchy is 87. His father was executed in 1938 by Stalin’s NKVD as an “enemy of the people” on bogus espionage charges. Earlier today in Moscow, two men attacked him on a bus when they thought they heard him refer to Wagner Group mercenaries as “murderers.”
The bus was passing by a memorial site dedicated to Wagner PMC fighters when Grinchy supposedly muttered his remark. The two assailants dragged him to the police, and all three men were detained and later released. The two sides have filed police reports against each other.
Ukinimo sankcije, samo Putin pa to.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Krajši video s podnapisi, wargonzo intervjuja vojaka. Enostavno ne morejo sprocesirat, da malorusom kaj uspe brez komande od zunaj. Če jim, so pa zagotovo nacisti, kar je spet svoj brain damage
https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/18221448...
https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/18221448...
Russians trying to understand why their army is being destroyed in the Kursk region.
- blames Russian commanders
- blames neo nazis
- says it's all french and polish soldiers
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
JanBrezov ::
Malo je ratal mehek Medo.
Samo tanki, nič nukic.
Rusija razglasila protiteroristično operacijo v treh regijah ob meji z Ukrajino
Protiteroristično? Pregazene vse rdeče črte in oni to označijo kot (samo) terorizem. Zna biti, da rusi v resnici sploh nimajo (izpravnega) jedrskega orožja. Kar ima smisel, ker tudi do zdaj se je marsikatero orožje izkazalo kot ne tako dobro kot reklamirano.
s1m0n ::
Vprašanje v kakšnem stanju sploh je... Tudi če vlagajo velike količine denarja v vzdrževanje se ga večino pokrade preden sploh pride ta kamor mora.
zooos ::
Malo je ratal mehek Medo.
Samo tanki, nič nukic.
Rusija razglasila protiteroristično operacijo v treh regijah ob meji z Ukrajino
Protiteroristično? Pregazene vse rdeče črte in oni to označijo kot (samo) terorizem. Zna biti, da rusi v resnici sploh nimajo (izpravnega) jedrskega orožja. Kar ima smisel, ker tudi do zdaj se je marsikatero orožje izkazalo kot ne tako dobro kot reklamirano.
Še za rdeče črte nimajo več?
Gregor P ::
Protiteroristična operacija? A pol bodo policisti dovolj?
The main failure in computers is usually located between keyboard and chair.
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
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You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
OutOfTheBox ::
- says it's all french and polish soldiers
Ko misliš da se rusi bolj nizko ne morejo spustit vidiš tole. Tudi če bi držalo da bi imela ukrajina tujo vojsko na njihovem ozemlju, ne bi bili tako očitni ampak bi se blendali iz "ozadja" med ukrajinske enote.
Tole postaja izjemno komično.
Zmajc ::
Rusi na splošno govorijo vseovsod kot da so v vojni z NATO-m. VSepovsod do Francoski, Brutanski in Poljski vojaki. To je očitno edini način s katerim lahko upravičijo izgube na bojišču, ker Ukrajinci njih pač ne morejo premagat.
JanBrezov ::
Putin 'FINISHED' as Losses in Ukraine Destroy His Grip on Power
@12:28
34 rdečih črt? Koliko rdečih črt sploh je?
@12:28
"Red line" is a term used by the Russian Federation to refer to any geopolitical action that it believes could damage the country's position. The use of Western - or NATO-provided weaponry - within Russia is one of these red lines. So far, Zeihan claims, the West has crossed 34 of these lines, with the use of Western military technology being the most recent.
34 rdečih črt? Koliko rdečih črt sploh je?
Zgodovina sprememb…
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Ganon ::
Rusi na splošno govorijo vseovsod kot da so v vojni z NATO-m. VSepovsod do Francoski, Brutanski in Poljski vojaki. To je očitno edini način s katerim lahko upravičijo izgube na bojišču, ker Ukrajinci njih pač ne morejo premagat.
To se zgodi, ko se ti tridnevna posebna operacija zatakne v grlu. Ker se žrtev ni ustrašila, se je razkrila vsa beda napadalca. Rusija celotnemu svetu kaže, da je brezzoba čivava. Glasni so, dokler ne pride do akcije.
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kow ::
Rusija naj zaboga ze enkrat brezpogojno kapitulira. Nobene potrebe ni, da Ukrajinci z zahodnim orozjem pokoljejo cvet ruske mladine. Putin se bo boril do zadnjega Rusa.
mikhaair ::
Rusija naj zaboga ze enkrat brezpogojno kapitulira. Nobene potrebe ni, da Ukrajinci z zahodnim orozjem pokoljejo cvet ruske mladine. Putin se bo boril do zadnjega Rusa.
Resnično in zelo žalostno. Izkušeni utrjeni vojaki bodo spet morali ubijati mlade, naizkusene, nevedne fante, ki sploh še niso zaživeli.
Zgodovina se znova in znova ponavlja.
zooos ::
Rusija ni nikoli rekla da bodo osvojili Ukrajino v treh dneh.
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Grinmir3 ::
Pac-Man ::
O alternativno zgodovinskih šund romanih, spotoma pa razloži še vso absurdnost (modernega) ruskega imperializma. Odličen video
This Russian Propaganda is Beyond Insane
This Russian Propaganda is Beyond Insane
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
BorutO ::
Rusi na splošno govorijo vseovsod kot da so v vojni z NATO-m. VSepovsod do Francoski, Brutanski in Poljski vojaki. To je očitno edini način s katerim lahko upravičijo izgube na bojišču, ker Ukrajinci njih pač ne morejo premagat.
To se zgodi, ko se ti tridnevna posebna operacija zatakne v grlu. Ker se žrtev ni ustrašila, se je razkrila vsa beda napadalca. Rusija celotnemu svetu kaže, da je brezzoba čivava. Glasni so, dokler ne pride do akcije.
Se še danes spomnim onega videa, ko ruski tank izgubi orientacijo in se čisto brez gpsja vozijo po ukrajini, pol pa enega ukrajinskega civilista vprašajo kam morejo iti .... Komedija ...
kow ::
Mislim, da so Rusi sedaj ze stabilizirali dogajanje in se bo pocasi vzpostavila fronta. Mislim, da je bila ofenziva zelo uspesna in da so Ukrajinci uspesno zmotili in zamaknili ofenzivne plane Rusov.
Bonus je seveda tudi psiholoska in propagandna zmaga. Putina so mocno osramotili pred domaco javnostjo.
Bonus je seveda tudi psiholoska in propagandna zmaga. Putina so mocno osramotili pred domaco javnostjo.
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DarkSite ::
Mislim, da so Rusi sedaj ze stabilizirali dogajanje in se bo pocasi vzpostavila fronta. Mislim, da je bila ofenziva zelo uspesna in da so Ukrajinci uspesno zmotili in zamaknili ofenzivne plane Rusov.
Bonus je seveda tudi psiholoska in propagandna zmaga. Putina so mocno osramotili pred domaco javnostjo.
Ja jst upam, da osvojijo še saj Korenevo in Rylsk potem kolapsira zahodno ozemlje do meje. Nekak pričakujem, da UA čakaja da RU razporedijo svoje enote in potem odprejo nov krak.
https://i.imgur.com/LFRHDv2.jpeg
Grinmir3 ::
Dobri so samo v tem :D
https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/18...
Ker Rusi so pa res dobri ane?
3 dni do Kijeva.
14 dni do Lizbone.
Okapi ::
redtech ::
Dobri so samo v tem :D
https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/18...
Ker Rusi so pa res dobri ane?
3 dni do Kijeva.
14 dni do Lizbone.
Take tard izjave so možne samo v hollywoodu:
It was misinformation by U.S. government officials. In early February 2022, General M. Milley (head of the U.S. Army Joint Chiefs of Staff) said that V.V. Putin could take Kiev in three days. This statement was reported by FoxNews. Below is a quote:
"Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told lawmakers that Kiev could fall within 72 hours if there is a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine, several congressional sources told Fox News. Milley told lawmakers during closed-door briefings Feb. 2 and 3 that a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine could cause Kiev to fall within 72 hours and could cost 15,000 Ukrainian servicemen and 4,000 Russian troops deaths
Zato je UA svetlobna leta pred RU...
Baja ::
baje pridejo wagnerjevci nazaj z afrike. a to mislijo ukrajince nazaj za mejo poriniti al spucati cesto do moskve? :D
JanBrezov ::
O alternativno zgodovinskih šund romanih, spotoma pa razloži še vso absurdnost (modernega) ruskega imperializma. Odličen video
This Russian Propaganda is Beyond Insane
@3:23
The "Battle Fantastic" book series is an effort by the Russian government to militarize popular literature and with that whip the population into a pro-war frenzy. Want to pick up some of them (books) from Moscow's Central bookstore? Why not grab some mock Russian military equipment in the process. It's right there next to the fiction section.
To razloži kvaliteto ruske vojaške opreme. Kupujejo jo v knjigarnah na oddelku s fikcijo.
Pac-Man ::
Take tard izjave so možne samo v hollywoodu:
It was misinformation by U.S. government officials. In early February 2022, General M. Milley (head of the U.S. Army Joint Chiefs of Staff) said that V.V. Putin could take Kiev in three days. This statement was reported by FoxNews.
Ruska stran je imela konkretne plane za zasedbo Kijeva v treh dneh
Fin članek o bojih za letališče v Hostomelu
https://warontherocks.com/2023/08/the-b...
...
Russia’s primary objective was to take control of Kyiv within 3-4 days. Vladimir Putin believed that if the Russian military could reach the capital quickly enough, President Volodymyr Zelensky and his government would capitulate, the population could be subdued, and a pro-Russian regime installed before effective resistance could be mobilized or the international community could react.
This is undoubtedly why some senior U.S. officials, in the run up to the war, thought that Kyiv could fall within 72 hours.
...
Od kar so padli v vodo pa improvizirajo. Plan so bila izvršena dejstva ne vojna izčrpavanja.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
zooos ::
Dobri so samo v tem :D
https://x.com/distant_earth83/status/18...
Ker Rusi so pa res dobri ane?
3 dni do Kijeva.
14 dni do Lizbone.
Take tard izjave so možne samo v hollywoodu:
It was misinformation by U.S. government officials. In early February 2022, General M. Milley (head of the U.S. Army Joint Chiefs of Staff) said that V.V. Putin could take Kiev in three days. This statement was reported by FoxNews. Below is a quote:
"Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told lawmakers that Kiev could fall within 72 hours if there is a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine, several congressional sources told Fox News. Milley told lawmakers during closed-door briefings Feb. 2 and 3 that a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine could cause Kiev to fall within 72 hours and could cost 15,000 Ukrainian servicemen and 4,000 Russian troops deaths
Zato je UA svetlobna leta pred RU...
Misliš v Rusiji
Rusija ni nikoli rekla da bodo osvojili Ukrajino v treh dneh.
Slavnostne govore o novem svetovnem redu so imeli že v naprej spisane.
Potem je šla pa tridnevna ofenziva v ku***
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BorutO ::
10.08.2024 - 15:48 ure
Ukrajina poroča o napadu na ruski plinski stolp
Ukrajinske pomorske sile pravijo, da so ubile okoli 40 ruskih vojakov v napadu na stolp za proizvodnjo plina v Črnem morju. Sile mornarice in vojaške obveščevalne službe so napadle kraj, kjer je sovražnik zbral osebje in opremo, poročajo ukrajinski mediji. Okupatorji so želeli stolp uporabiti za motenje navigacijskih signalov prek satelitov, kar bi ogrozilo civilni ladijski promet.
"Česa takega ne moremo dovoliti," je za internetni časopis "Ukrajinska pravda" povedal Dmitro Pletenčuk. Civilisti niso bili na platformi za proizvodnjo plina, ki je neurejena. Raketne in topniške enote obalnih sil so izvedle napad. Močna eksplozija je bila vidna na objavljenem videu. Verodostojnosti posnetkov ni bilo mogoče neodvisno preveriti.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024...
Ukrajina poroča o napadu na ruski plinski stolp
Ukrajinske pomorske sile pravijo, da so ubile okoli 40 ruskih vojakov v napadu na stolp za proizvodnjo plina v Črnem morju. Sile mornarice in vojaške obveščevalne službe so napadle kraj, kjer je sovražnik zbral osebje in opremo, poročajo ukrajinski mediji. Okupatorji so želeli stolp uporabiti za motenje navigacijskih signalov prek satelitov, kar bi ogrozilo civilni ladijski promet.
"Česa takega ne moremo dovoliti," je za internetni časopis "Ukrajinska pravda" povedal Dmitro Pletenčuk. Civilisti niso bili na platformi za proizvodnjo plina, ki je neurejena. Raketne in topniške enote obalnih sil so izvedle napad. Močna eksplozija je bila vidna na objavljenem videu. Verodostojnosti posnetkov ni bilo mogoče neodvisno preveriti.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024...
Ganon ::
Ruska stran je imela konkretne plane za zasedbo Kijeva v treh dneh
Konkreten plan, beri: Širimo propagando o nepremagljivosti ruske vojske toliko časa, da se nasprotna stran sploh ne bo želela bojevati in se bodo vsi, s predsednikom vred, razbežali, mit pa bo živel dalje.
In zastor je padel.
kow ::
Kvajeto ::
Imam občutek, da poskušajo Američani in Ukrajinci toliko sprovocirat Putina, da bi uporabil nukice. Tok so že nori.
Ganon ::
mtosev ::
Rusija zaradi spopadov iz obmejne Kurske oblasti evakuirala 76.000 ljudi
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/vojna-v-ukra...
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Gregor P ::
... niso oni nobenga evakuiral, tega sploh ne znajo ...
The main failure in computers is usually located between keyboard and chair.
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).