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Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"
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bbbbbb2015 ::
Vas berem in sem se prav spomnil na moj komentarA veste, kdo pa ima dobro orožje proti dronom? Izraelci
… zdaj pa ne vem, a noben od vas še ni slišal za to, ker oni to kar radi razkazujejo vsem zainteresiranim po svetu
Izraelci imajo dosti vsega, radi to razkazujejo, samo je tako, da imajo vse drago. Če je kakšen gever poceni, potem ta drag del pride kasneje.
Saj ne, da bi bil antisemit, ampak jaz se ne dotaknem s palico česarkoli izraelskega (v smislu orožja).
Oni sami pa hočejo od Amerike stvari:
a) zastonj
b) skoraj zastonj
F-35 je ena redkih stvari, kar so v dolarjih plačali. Pa še to so pogojevali X pogojev, da so sami predelali F-35 in so rabili APIje, da so sami poflikali softver.
Ali je njihovo orožje učinkovito? Jaz mislim, da v vseh spopadih, kjer so bili do sedaj, pa ni jih bilo malo, so vedno imeli faktor presenečenja.
Čim tega faktorja ni bilo, so popušili. Recimo lep primer je bilo sesutje Pancirja, s katerim so upravljali Rusi. Zgodba je taka, da je F-16, na katerega so nalimali ta svoj loitering ammo, letal sem ter tja, dokler ni Pancir pospravil radar in rakete in šel na marš, takrat so ga sestrelili. To so slavili nenormalno in napihovali vrednost svoje loitering muncije.
Sirijci, oziroma Rusi so na to reagirali tako, da so imeli dva Pancirja, eden v maršu, eden na straži in sta se menjavala.
Izraelci so v orožju dobri, a ne tako dobri, kot so vedno dragi.
WhiteAngel ::
fakin šit
"Kamikaze" Russia should really go home!
https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/17372...
A obstajajo kakšne mobilne naprave za EMP sunke, ki bi jih imel vojak za pasom? Nekaj takega, kar bi za kakšno minuto pretrgalo komunikacijo dronov v razdalji 200m, da bi vmes poiskal zaklonišče? Drgač svaka čast operaterjem... mi je kar žal za častnika - lahko bi se boril na drugi strani.
Pac-Man ::
Ukrajinci pravijo, da so čez noč sestrelili 3 Su-34, ruski Telegram priznava izgubo enega
https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/stat...
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/173...
https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/stat...
Ukraine reports downing three Russian Su-34 fighter bombers overnight. That's just under 2% of the 155 Su-34s ever built, lost in a single night. At least 20 more Su-34s have been shot down over Ukraine since the Kremlin launched its full-scale invasion.
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/173...
Ukraine says it shot down three Russian Su-34 fighter-bombers. Russian military channels confirm that at least one Su-34 has been lost, the fate of the crew is unknown.
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Pac-Man ::
WhiteAngel je izjavil:
A obstajajo kakšne mobilne naprave za EMP sunke, ki bi jih imel vojak za pasom?
EMP sunek ti ali skuri elektroniko in je zadeva za v smeti ali ne naredi ničesar. Ostane ti smetenje po EM spektru, kar je neke vrste elektronsko bojevanje. Ampak spet rabiš kar precej energije.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
Ukrajinci pravijo, da so čez noč sestrelili 3 Su-34, ruski Telegram priznava izgubo enega
Proofs?
https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/173...
⚡️Footage from the alleged ejection site of one of the Russian pilots of the downed #Su34 is published online.Heli zgleda ruski, je pa fotka potato quality. Maska na 2. fotki deluje krvava.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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Lesoto ::
Lesoto ::
"aha, on November 25, we weote that a SU-34 pilot, fell into the coverage of a powerful radar of an unknown air defense system."
To pomeni, da so inštrumenti na Su-34 zaznali nek radar in je pilot zagotovo uporabil EW motenje signala. Ampak, nič to ne pomaga proti ameriški tehnologiji, ki dejansko funkcionira. Ruska klumparija naj se že pobere domov.
To pomeni, da so inštrumenti na Su-34 zaznali nek radar in je pilot zagotovo uporabil EW motenje signala. Ampak, nič to ne pomaga proti ameriški tehnologiji, ki dejansko funkcionira. Ruska klumparija naj se že pobere domov.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/AndrewPerpetua/stat...
The fact that there were Russians confidently declaring Ukrainian jets flew to Chaplinka in order to engage Russian bombers, only to get shot down, is, objectively, both the funniest and stupidest thing. Confirming both that jets were shot down and a lack of general intelligence
The fact that there were Russians confidently declaring Ukrainian jets flew to Chaplinka in order to engage Russian bombers, only to get shot down, is, objectively, both the funniest and stupidest thing. Confirming both that jets were shot down and a lack of general intelligence
bbbbbb2015 ::
"aha, on November 25, we weote that a SU-34 pilot, fell into the coverage of a powerful radar of an unknown air defense system."
To pomeni, da so inštrumenti na Su-34 zaznali nek radar in je pilot zagotovo uporabil EW motenje signala. Ampak, nič to ne pomaga proti ameriški tehnologiji, ki dejansko funkcionira. Ruska klumparija naj se že pobere domov.
Ni to tako enostavno, sicer. Pomembno je sicer, če je radar pozicijski za merjenje izstrelka ali lokacijski, ki pazi 360 stopinj.
Patrioti imajo sicer zelo močan radar. Tako močan, da se vidi na nekaterih satelitskih slikah, ker povzroča motnje, ki jih satelit gor pobere.
Rusi pravijo, da so nadgradili EW:
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/capabilit...
Zdaj, da ne bi imeli najmodernejši RWR (Radar Warning System), to skoraj ne morem verjeti. Pa prav za Su 34 so se hvalili.
Lesoto ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Zdaj, da ne bi imeli najmodernejši RWR (Radar Warning System), to skoraj ne morem verjeti. Pa prav za Su 34 so se hvalili.
ko Rus odpre usta, laže
- tole je verjetno najbolj neumna zgodba te vojne - ukrajinski Mig 29 do meje s Krimom, pajade...
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/sta...
Ukrainian aviation strikes the rear supply depots of the Russian Armed Forces in the Kherson region with high-precision JDAM aerial bombs, combining strikes with GMLRS.
Ukrainian aviation strikes the rear supply depots of the Russian Armed Forces in the Kherson region with high-precision JDAM aerial bombs, combining strikes with GMLRS.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/fellaraktar/status/...
3 SU-34's in one day is pretty fuckin badass.
But it's about to get a whole lot worse for the ruSSian airforce.
Meet the AIM 120D AMRAAM.
This spicy air to air missile has a range of 160km when launched from a plane such as an F16.
This means, depending on the radar setup the F16's come with, ruSSian planes will soon be getting shot out of the sky by planes they never even saw.
3 SU-34's in one day is pretty fuckin badass.
But it's about to get a whole lot worse for the ruSSian airforce.
Meet the AIM 120D AMRAAM.
This spicy air to air missile has a range of 160km when launched from a plane such as an F16.
This means, depending on the radar setup the F16's come with, ruSSian planes will soon be getting shot out of the sky by planes they never even saw.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/parrot_reborn/statu...
This is one of the best (if not the best) FPV drone strike on russians ever. Today is Ukraine's lucky day.
This is one of the best (if not the best) FPV drone strike on russians ever. Today is Ukraine's lucky day.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
Eggs in Russia became so expensive because Russians eat too many of them, Russian authorities claim.
"The analysis showed that in this case the quality of life of our citizens has increased and they have increased the consumption of meat products in general, chicken meat as a dietary product, and eggs," - Vladimir Gutenev, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Industry and Trade.
Eggs in Russia became so expensive because Russians eat too many of them, Russian authorities claim.
"The analysis showed that in this case the quality of life of our citizens has increased and they have increased the consumption of meat products in general, chicken meat as a dietary product, and eggs," - Vladimir Gutenev, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Industry and Trade.
Pac-Man ::
https://twitter.com/raging545/status/17...
IMAGES claiming to show the launch of the (Patriot) missiles and the interception of the Russian Su-34 aircraft over southern Ukraine.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1738...
BOOOOOOMM
Ukrainian soldiers of the 72nd Mechanised Brigade destroyed rare Russian ATGM "Sturm-SM" based on MT-LB with FPV kamikaze drone strike in Vuhledar direction, Donetsk region.
Kamikaze drone sponsored by Sternenko.
BOOOOOOMM
Ukrainian soldiers of the 72nd Mechanised Brigade destroyed rare Russian ATGM "Sturm-SM" based on MT-LB with FPV kamikaze drone strike in Vuhledar direction, Donetsk region.
Kamikaze drone sponsored by Sternenko.
Pac-Man ::
FPV videi so ponavadi brez zvoka, kar lepo poči
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/sta...
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/sta...
FPV drone strike on Russian Ural truck. Video from Russian perspective
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
bbbbbb2015 ::
https://twitter.com/fellaraktar/status/...
3 SU-34's in one day is pretty fuckin badass.
But it's about to get a whole lot worse for the ruSSian airforce.
Meet the AIM 120D AMRAAM.
This spicy air to air missile has a range of 160km when launched from a plane such as an F16.
This means, depending on the radar setup the F16's come with, ruSSian planes will soon be getting shot out of the sky by planes they never even saw.
Ni tako enostavno, kot je tukaj napisano. To je izstrelek, ki je bil razvit točno po željah ameriškega letalstva. Medtem, ko je bil sidewinder razvit v garaži za malodenarja, je bil to flagship projekt, za katerega je šlo dosti denarja, da ne rečem ves denar tistega časa.
Ta izstrelek je nastal po izkušnjah (predvsem iz) iz Korejske vojne, kjer so se Američani srečali z agilnimi Mig-15, katerim nikakor niso mogli slediti. Nastala je potreba po izstrelku, ki se izstreli od daleč, ter ameriški avion sploh ne pride blizu.
Če je 1:1 boj poterm FOX 3 izstrelek dosti pomaga. Če ima pa nasprotnik dober radar in Suhoji in Migi imajo tak radar, lahko gredo v defenzivo, ter se temu dragemu izstrelku izognejo. Rusi imajo zelo zelo podoben izstrelek:
R-33 (missile) @ Wikipedia
in še precej novejšo različico:
R-37 (missile) @ Wikipedia
Rezultat je ta, da so Rusi nad Rusijo iztrelili izstrelek, ki je zadel Ukrajince. Ko so Ukrajinci ugotovili, kaj dogaja, zdaj z radarji pazijo na vzhodno mejo, če vzleti Mig-31 ali Su-34, ga pazijo, ter če izstreli AA izstrelek, ga sklatijo z AA obrambo. In Rusi niso sestrelili nič več.
Torej ti long-range AA izstrelki nimajo take vrednosti, kot se predstavlja, vsaj na modernem bojišču ne.
Razen, če imajo Američani kakšno zvijačo, recimo izstrelijo vabo dve, ter šele potem raketo. Ali Ukrajnci pošljejo drone nadlegovat AA obrambo.
mn ::
Kaj pa menite o tem mnenju:
https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/it...
On razlaga, da so te stare izvedenke F16 ki jih bodo Ukrajinci verjetno dobili precej neuporabne za njih, oziroma vsaj ne omogočajo nobenih operacij ki jih že njihovo obstoječe letalstvo ne omogoča. Modernih long range iztrelkov ne morejo uporabljati, niti nimajo tako modernih radarjev kot jih imajo Rusi?
Link zgoraj je do prvega dela, napisal je dva.
Poleg tega je imel pred časom še eno serijo podobnih Q&A o F16 v Ukrajini.
https://xxtomcooperxx.substack.com/p/it...
On razlaga, da so te stare izvedenke F16 ki jih bodo Ukrajinci verjetno dobili precej neuporabne za njih, oziroma vsaj ne omogočajo nobenih operacij ki jih že njihovo obstoječe letalstvo ne omogoča. Modernih long range iztrelkov ne morejo uporabljati, niti nimajo tako modernih radarjev kot jih imajo Rusi?
Link zgoraj je do prvega dela, napisal je dva.
Poleg tega je imel pred časom še eno serijo podobnih Q&A o F16 v Ukrajini.
Lesoto ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Če je 1:1 boj poterm FOX 3 izstrelek dosti pomaga. Če ima pa nasprotnik dober radar in Suhoji in Migi imajo tak radar, lahko gredo v defenzivo, ter se temu dragemu izstrelku izognejo. Rusi imajo zelo zelo podoben izstrelek:
R-33 (missile) @ Wikipedia
in še precej novejšo različico:
R-37 (missile) @ Wikipedia
Rezultat je ta, da so Rusi nad Rusijo iztrelili izstrelek, ki je zadel Ukrajince. Ko so Ukrajinci ugotovili, kaj dogaja, zdaj z radarji pazijo na vzhodno mejo, če vzleti Mig-31 ali Su-34, ga pazijo, ter če izstreli AA izstrelek, ga sklatijo z AA obrambo. In Rusi niso sestrelili nič več.
Torej ti long-range AA izstrelki nimajo take vrednosti, kot se predstavlja, vsaj na modernem bojišču ne.
Smo videli včeraj, kako so se Su-34 izognili precej večjemu izstrelku PAC-2 iz Patriota z ultra dobrim radarjem, ki ga imajo. Pa enako velja za 2x Su-35, ki sta bila tudi sestreljena s Patriotom.
Malo razmisli, preden pišeš.
fur80 ::
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/sta...
Eggs in Russia became so expensive because Russians eat too many of them, Russian authorities claim.
"The analysis showed that in this case the quality of life of our citizens has increased and they have increased the consumption of meat products in general, chicken meat as a dietary product, and eggs," - Vladimir Gutenev, Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Industry and Trade.
Rubelj spet sili navzgor, kljub višanju obresti. 102 rublja za 1€, s tem, da so krediti tam verjetno dragi kot hudič oz. so se dvignili obroki. Počasi, verjetno pa ne do marca, ker bo Putler pobil vsakega kritika, da vojna le ni blagostanje in finančna priložnost za Ruse.
Pac-Man ::
On razlaga, da so te stare izvedenke F16 ki jih bodo Ukrajinci verjetno dobili precej neuporabne za njih, oziroma vsaj ne omogočajo nobenih operacij ki jih že njihovo obstoječe letalstvo ne omogoča.
Nisem šel (še) brat, ampak kolikor se spomnim izvajanj Theinerja
https://twitter.com/noclador
naj bi imeli modifikacijo tega radarja
AN/APG-66 @ Wikipedia
bilo bi zelo lepo, če bi ga zamenjali s tem radarjem, menda je drop-in
AN/APG-68 @ Wikipedia
ker jih Američani mečejo ven in jim pač ostajajo. Menjajo jih s temi
AN/APG-83 @ Wikipedia
kar bi bilo sploh fino, če se bi jih dalo par preusmerit v Ukrajino :)
Vedno obstaja tudi možnost, da je ruska tehnologija bolj kot ne vaporware.
Velik problem je, da se dobave napovedujejo in debatirajo daleč naprej in se lahko Rusija pripravi. Par mesecev nazaj so nenajavljeno dobili 20 starih ATACMS raket in je bil čez noč uničen lep del ruske flote ofenzivnih helikopterjev.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
ahahahaha
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu...
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu...
OTD in 2016 Assange said there isn't a need for @wikileaks in Russia cos there are “competitors like @Navalny”.
Whom we tried to kill. More than once. And jailed. And now disappeared, presumed dead.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
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Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/17384...
Another Russian attack ended in chaos. This happened in the Kupyansk area. At first, it looks like that Russians can make it, but gradually they lose vehicles and troops.
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Another Russian attack ended in chaos. This happened in the Kupyansk area. At first, it looks like that Russians can make it, but gradually they lose vehicles and troops.
...
Pac-Man ::
Tole zgoraj je dober 3 minute dolg video, ravno hotel prilepit
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Lesoto ::
fur80 ::
Počasi se bo začelo, pa da vidimo.
First 18 Dutch F-16s are prepared for delivery to Ukraine. With these Fighters, we'll strengthen the Ukrainian airforce. Russian aggression requires our unwavering support
https://twitter.com/andresteur/status/1...
tukaj so jih tudi lepo spucali:
https://twitter.com/Shtirlitz53/status/...
Upam, da Slo vojska že dela kaj na tem.
First 18 Dutch F-16s are prepared for delivery to Ukraine. With these Fighters, we'll strengthen the Ukrainian airforce. Russian aggression requires our unwavering support
https://twitter.com/andresteur/status/1...
droni...
Ukraine FPV drone sends greetings to the Orcs.
https://twitter.com/region776/status/17...
tukaj so jih tudi lepo spucali:
https://twitter.com/Shtirlitz53/status/...
Upam, da Slo vojska že dela kaj na tem.
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bbbbbb2015 ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Če je 1:1 boj poterm FOX 3 izstrelek dosti pomaga. Če ima pa nasprotnik dober radar in Suhoji in Migi imajo tak radar, lahko gredo v defenzivo, ter se temu dragemu izstrelku izognejo. Rusi imajo zelo zelo podoben izstrelek:
R-33 (missile) @ Wikipedia
in še precej novejšo različico:
R-37 (missile) @ Wikipedia
Rezultat je ta, da so Rusi nad Rusijo iztrelili izstrelek, ki je zadel Ukrajince. Ko so Ukrajinci ugotovili, kaj dogaja, zdaj z radarji pazijo na vzhodno mejo, če vzleti Mig-31 ali Su-34, ga pazijo, ter če izstreli AA izstrelek, ga sklatijo z AA obrambo. In Rusi niso sestrelili nič več.
Torej ti long-range AA izstrelki nimajo take vrednosti, kot se predstavlja, vsaj na modernem bojišču ne.
Smo videli včeraj, kako so se Su-34 izognili precej večjemu izstrelku PAC-2 iz Patriota z ultra dobrim radarjem, ki ga imajo. Pa enako velja za 2x Su-35, ki sta bila tudi sestreljena s Patriotom.
Malo razmisli, preden pišeš.
Sem razmislil in zdaj je že jasno, kako so Ukrajinci uspeli sestreliti tri Su 34. Ukrajinci so običajno varovali svojo pozicijo na drugi strani Dnepra z nekim starim sovjetskim sistemom, verjetno Buk:
Buk missile system @ Wikipedia
Ima doseg 30km, Rusi pa so odmetavali leteče bombe na razdalji 50km. Vendar Bukov pozicijski radar vidi precej dlje (čez 200km), sploh če je avion na višini 12km, to je višina, s katere so Rusi odmetaval FAB bombe.
Ko so se Rusi bližali točki odmetavanja, so Ukrajinci vklopili Patriot sistem, domneva se, da je bil Patriot slabih 100km za borbeno linijo, vendar je še vedno imel doseg 60km. Rusi so zaznali močan (drugi) radarski signal, a je bilo prepozno. Z močno obteženimi letali na višini 12km niso mogli kaj dosti narediti.
Kaj bi se tukaj dalo narediti:
a) Rusi bi imeli dobro varovanje iz tal S-300, tisti hip, ko bi Ukrajinci izstrelili patriote, bi se Rusi branili z S-300
b) Rusi bi začeli odmetavati vabe iz nekega letala, ki bi spremljalo Su 34. Neke vabe sigurno imajo, ko so streljali Iskanderje, so odmetavali tudi vabe, Patrioti so sigurno tripali na tiste vabe
c) Su 34 se znebi bomb, ter strmo pikira - vendar so bili previsoko, niso se mogli zlesti iz višine 12km hitro
Rusi nimajo nekega sofisticiranega EW avionskega poda, da bi poskušali motiti Patriotov radar. Sestreljevanje Patriota z AA raketo (če bi jo Su 35, ki ga ni bilo zraven) zahteva "osvetljevanje" Patriotove rakete, to dejansko po moje sploh ni mogoče, obenem je pa tvegane, da te Patriot vseeno sestreli.
To je to. Ali bodo Rusi uvedli kakšno varovanje bombnikov ali pa nehali odmetavati te bombe. In isto velja za Ukrajince. Če bodo imeli kakšne F-16 na višini, jih morajo varovati z AA obrambo, sicer bodo sedeče race.
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Lesoto ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
a) Rusi bi imeli dobro varovanje iz tal S-300, tisti hip, ko bi Ukrajinci izstrelili patriote, bi se Rusi branili z S-300
Ne verjamem, da se da patriotov PAC-2 sestreliti s S300. Še s kakšno AA raketo iz Su34 je to prej znastvena fantastika. Raketa leti direktno proti letalu s hitrostjo 4000kmh in nima praktično nikakršnega radarskega odtisa.
b) Rusi bi začeli odmetavati vabe iz nekega letala, ki bi spremljalo Su 34. Neke vabe sigurno imajo, ko so streljali Iskanderje, so odmetavali tudi vabe, Patrioti so sigurno tripali na tiste vabe
Zagotovo so motili signale kolikor so jih lahko, ampak kot kaže je Patriot imun ta tole, kar imajo Rusi na voljo.
Su 34 se znebi bomb, ter strmo pikira - vendar so bili previsoko, niso se mogli zlesti iz višine 12km hitro
Če Su-34 ni na neki višini, so tiste bombe neuporabne. Bližje zagotovo ne bodo hodili tudi na občutno manjši višini 3-4km, kar jima da zelo malo uporabnega dometa za letče bombe.
Rusi nimajo nekega sofisticiranega EW avionskega poda, da bi poskušali motiti Patriotov radar. Sestreljevanje Patriota z AA raketo (če bi jo Su 35, ki ga ni bilo zraven) zahteva "osvetljevanje" Patriotove rakete, to dejansko po moje sploh ni mogoče, obenem je pa tvegane, da te Patriot vseeno sestreli.
V maju, ko so bili sestrejeni 3x letala + 2x helikopterja, sta bila oba helikopterja tipa
Mi-8MTPR-1 electronic warfare helicopter.
Verjetn sta bila tam, da motita signale.
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/16...
One of the worst days ever for the Russian Air Force: Today, at least 4 aircraft- an Su-34 strike jet, an Su-35 fighter and two Mi-8 helicopters, were shot down by anti-air missiles over Bryansk Oblast within Russia.
Očitno dejstvo je, da pač ruska tehnika motenja signalov ni dorasla Patriotu.
fur80 ::
Nori posnetki,verjetno se je Ukrajincem splačal trening v rovih.
https://twitter.com/break_free_now/stat...
https://twitter.com/break_free_now/stat...
Pac-Man ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Rusi nimajo nekega sofisticiranega EW avionskega poda, da bi poskušali motiti Patriotov radar.
Ne če njih vprašaš ;)
Khibiny (electronic countermeasures system) @ Wikipedia
tole je z l. 2019
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news...
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Russian experts describe the system as “a magical piece of kit”—the history of the developmental work on the system traces its roots to the Soviet period.
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Observers in Ukraine and Belarus say these while Russian systems are powerful jammers and can create enough interference to adequately blind adversary radars and other sensors, “the overall objective that the Russian systems are designed to achieve is for their adversaries to lose situational awareness—at least long enough for the Russian aircraft to be able to carry out its mission,” according to one Ukrainian EW design engineer.
The Russian methodology for EW has shortcomings, however, say both Belarus and Ukraine EW designers—all of which will only become more pronounced over time.
One is the continued Russian reliance on Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) as the basis for the signals generated by these jamming pods. This is a system by which the threat library of an EW system recognizes the radar signal that it is receiving and parrots back the signal so that the radar system appears to have contacted nothing. This method depends on the pulses from adversaries to be on a constant frequency and at a standard, regular interval.
“This is no longer the case with more modern radar systems,” said the same Ukrainian designer. “Today’s radars are often ‘frequency-hopping’ and also the pulse width varies and with no repetitive pattern—therefore making it impossible for many jammers to mimic the incoming signal in such a way as to adequately conceal the aircraft.”
A second issue is the power levels of Russian jamming systems. The strength of Russian EW signals is at times overpowering, Ukrainian EW specialists tell AIN, but that signal is also so strong that it is also like a beacon. For any enemy’s anti-radiation weapon that has a “home on jam” mode, it literally makes the Russian aircraft a target.
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
bbbbbb2015 ::
bbbbbb2015 je izjavil:
Rusi nimajo nekega sofisticiranega EW avionskega poda, da bi poskušali motiti Patriotov radar.
Ne če njih vprašaš ;)
Khibiny (electronic countermeasures system) @ Wikipedia
tole je z l. 2019
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news...
Ne, to ne bo motilo nobenega zahodnega radarja, narejenega po letu 1990. To bi motilo morda Geparda, pa Buk z radarjem iz leta 1950-1970. Patriot sploh, ampak vsi AESA radarji imajo neregularen frequency hopping in neregularen semi-random tajming. Ni to ping-ping-ping. To je prišlo z AESA radarji. To je signal tako neregularen, da težko ugotoviš, da sploh gre za radar.
Za avione dostikrat citirajo, da so AESA radarji lažji, kar ima sploh eno vrednost pri avionu. Ampak največja vrednost pride z elektronsko genmeracijo in prejemom signala. Rusi nimajo nič, kar bi lahko motilo kakšno koli zahodno radarsko opremo, narejeno po letu 1990. Imajo tiste power motilce na oklepniški šasiji, to useka signal po celem X bandu ali Ka bandu ali GSM/GPS bandu. Moti vse, še samega sebe. Imeli so jih eno 5, Ukrajinci so del zaplenili lani, menda tisti antenski del, ki je obstal v blatu.
To imajo, samo so Ukrajinci rekli, čim se tak motilec pojavi, pa to je 30+ km od frontne linije, vir sevanja je lahko zaznati, to oni recon misijo špecialce pošljejo, da to uničijo. Ali izvidujejo in ko motilec zagledajo, grejo nazaj in javijo kooridnate. Ali pa gredo 5km stran od motilca, motilec moti sicer eno 90stopinjski sektor, ne 360 in javijo po voki tokiju. Ti motilci so nepraktični in za Ruse in za Ukrajince.
fur80 ::
Rusofili že stojijo v vrsti.
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/173715587...
Kaj takega lahko samo Rus zdizajnira, pa verjetno v Slikarju.
NuMaN ::
Prav simpatičen avtek, ne pa dandanašnje agresivne grdobe.
Prednjači bemfl s tisto vedno večjo masko - že tukaj so bili gifi na to temo.
Prednjači bemfl s tisto vedno večjo masko - že tukaj so bili gifi na to temo.
jest10 ::
Rusofili že stojijo v vrsti.
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/173715587...
Sicer so tukaj prikladno "pozabili" povedati, da bo produkcijska verzija drugačna.
Bauc ::
Rusofili že stojijo v vrsti.
https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/173715587...
Sicer so tukaj prikladno "pozabili" povedati, da bo produkcijska verzija drugačna.
Upam, da bodo zavrgli vse in obdržali samo barvo.
AgJ1 ::
Ruska osrednja volilna komisija je zavrnila kandidaturo novinarke in nasprotnice Kremlja Jekaterine Duncove za predsedniške volitve prihodnje leto. Komisija se je sklicevala na napake v dokumentih, ki jih je predložila Duncova. Ta se sicer zavzema za mir in demokratične procese v Rusiji, poročajo tuje tiskovne agencije.
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/rusk...
Ruska demokratura v polnem sijaju.
mtosev ::
Tole ni presenečenje. Putin bo dosmrtni predsednik.
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Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
fur80 ::
Ruska osrednja volilna komisija je zavrnila kandidaturo novinarke in nasprotnice Kremlja Jekaterine Duncove za predsedniške volitve prihodnje leto. Komisija se je sklicevala na napake v dokumentih, ki jih je predložila Duncova. Ta se sicer zavzema za mir in demokratične procese v Rusiji, poročajo tuje tiskovne agencije.
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/rusk...
Ruska demokratura v polnem sijaju.
Navalnega so zaprli globoko v luknjo, njegovega odvetnika tudi, verjetno ju ne bo na spregled vsaj do marca, če ni še kaj hujšega.
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: fur80 ()
Machete ::
Navalni je samo druga stran istega kovanca.
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Pac-Man ::
Ruska osrednja volilna komisija je zavrnila kandidaturo novinarke in nasprotnice Kremlja Jekaterine Duncove za predsedniške volitve prihodnje leto. Komisija se je sklicevala na napake v dokumentih, ki jih je predložila Duncova. Ta se sicer zavzema za mir in demokratične procese v Rusiji, poročajo tuje tiskovne agencije.
https://www.24ur.com/novice/tujina/rusk...
Teli so l. 2018 dovoliti kandidirat
tale je pa l. 2017 dobil red časti za dosežke v kulturi
iz rok Putina
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Bauc ::
kolumna o ruskih jajcih
https://siol.net/novice/kolumne/branko-...
Spomnim se, ko je pred leti tip taksist vprašal Putina, če bodo uredili ceste, ker se ne more normalno voziti pa mu je Putin odgovoril zakaj sploh ima avto, če so ceste zanič. Putin ima rešitve za vse probleme
