Rusija vs. Ukrajina aka. "Putin - še sladkih 16 let na oblasti?"

Ustanove so ljudje in lep del ljudi na RTVSLO je v najboljšem primeru na frekvenci "Giv piss a chance"/"Ni naša vojna".

V spominu mi je ostal ta Golobičev odziv kulturni novinarki na RTV, ki je reklamirala takratni Watersov pamflet

https://x.com/ZaresGregor/status/157471...

Seveda. Ni vsak bedak rusofil.
Ukrajina ima dolgo zgodovino, v kateri se je dogajalo marsikaj. A popolnoma nič od tega ne alibizira ruske invazije in aktualnih grozot.
Vse drugo je lagodni cinizem ofucanega rockerja, ki bi rad focal naokoli s svojim cenenim pravičništvom.

Stane2 je 22. apr 2025 ob 16:39:09 izjavil:

Kako točno bo zasedel Odesso?? A ti veš, kje je Odessa? Odessa je stran okoli 10-15 let ruskih povprečnih prodiranj. Sovjetska skladišča so na koncu. Ukrajinci bodo letos naredili par miljonov dronov. Naslednjo leto preko 10 milijonov.

To se govori na Zahodu, ne Rusi... Kar se Odesse tiče... Predvsem ZDA...

Tako so prazna kot zadnja 3 leta. In prazna so tudi zahodna skladišča. Plus ZDA ne dajejo več orožja, niti za denar.

Sicer naj bi Reinmetal prvo fabriko granat odprl 2026 v Ukrajini. Vprašanje koliko časa bo delovala...

Trump je leta 2017 podpisal zakon, po katerem Rusiji ne more "podarjat" okupiranega teritorija. Skeni na povezavi

https://x.com/JohnH105/status/191478625...

Preden začne Trump sklepati kupčije za dvomljive kremeljske "koncesije", bi bilo dobro, da ponovno prebere zakon CAATSA iz leta 2017. Ta izrecno prepoveduje, da bi ZDA priznale rusko aneksijo ukrajinskega ozemlja, okupiranega s silo, vključno s Krimom. Kongresu tudi omogoča, da prepreči odpravo številnih sankcij, povezanih z Rusijo. To vključuje sankcije za banke in energetska podjetja, ki jih je Bidnova administracija (ponovno) določila v skladu z ukazom št. 13662 na poti skozi vrata prav zato, da bi zanje veljala CAATSA.

Portret, ki ga je Putin preko Witkoffa podaril Trumpu

https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1914779598... V Kremlju ga imajo prebranega v piko, saj ne da je to težko.

Zanimiv detajl je na glavo postavljena zastava, ki je Američan #1 ne bo opazil.

https://www.americanflags.com/blog/post...

Typically, an upside-down American flag is a sign of distress or extreme emergencies. Some may also use it as a form of protest, which is protected as free speech under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

fur80 je 23. apr 2025 ob 09:05:21 izjavil:

Pokalo je vso noč:
Russia's 51st GRAU ammo depot in Vladimir Oblast burned through the night and is still on fire.
Preliminary estimates suggest up to 80% of stored munitions may have been destroyed.
Massive blow.
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/191493...

Tudi strelivo, ki ni eksplodiralo, je bilo izpostavljeno toplotnemu udaru, elektronika (recimo krmilna v S-300) je bila izpostavljena in toplotnemu in kinetičnemu udaru. Poleg tega, če strelivo ni eksplodiralo, ga je razmetalo po okolici in je neuporabno, ker je verjetno deformirano.

Saj marsikaj se da remontirati, samo to je zopet proces.

Zadeve tam okrog, tudi če so preživele, so vprašljivo neuporabne. Poleg tega je verjetno dosti razmetane robe, ki se ji ni dobro približati. Pospravljanje bo nevarno in zamudno.

Gregor P je 23. apr 2025 ob 08:42:36 izjavil:

To je sicer lepo, ampak glede na to, da se Trump požvižga na zakone, ne vem koliko ga ta zakon zaustavlja pri njegovih dejanjih ... plus lahko vedno napiše novega

Sodišča so ga že velikokrat postavila na realna tla.

Demokracije v ZDA sploh nikoli ni bilo.

Tam je bila in je še vedno, diktatura elite...

Kar hoče uvesti EU komisija, skupaj z WEF...

Zmajc je 23. apr 2025 ob 10:42:32 izjavil:

Je pa ironija, da mu vrhovno sodišče da popolno imunieto za čas mandata potem pa se čudijo, ko jih ignorira. Ne morejo pa popolnoma ničesar ker ima imuniteto, ki so mu jo oni podelili.

Kaj so mislili da bo naredil? Sami so ga povzdignili nad zakon.

Kongres ga lahko impiča. To je način, da ga ruknejo. Zaenkrat se to ne bo zgodilo.

Pac-Man je 23. apr 2025 ob 08:53:53 izjavil:

Portret, ki ga je Putin preko Witkoffa podaril Trumpu

https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1914779598...

V Kremlju ga imajo prebranega v piko, saj ne da je to težko.

Zanimiv detajl je na glavo postavljena zastava, ki je Američan #1 ne bo opazil.

https://www.americanflags.com/blog/post...

Typically, an upside-down American flag is a sign of distress or extreme emergencies. Some may also use it as a form of protest, which is protected as free speech under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Zastava je v redu. To je bila extreme emergency, kar je res bila. To ni nespoštljivo ali da bi bilo karkoli narobe.

velik posnetkov v zadnjih nekaj dneh

UKR:


RUS:

V Jebalugi, kjer proizvajajo Šahide, je gost enosmeren promet ultralahkih letal. V videu na povezavi ga manjša raketa, verjetno s Pantsirja, kar lepo zgreši. Najbrž že drugi poskus, na začetku se vidi oblaček po eksploziji.

Avion zgleda kot da nabira kroge, morda samo vaba za rakete?

https://bsky.app/profile/specialkherson...

Rusija je ponovno zmagoslavna!

Ima najboljše ognjemete iz skladišč streliva in najboljše falirane poskuse napadov z mopedi!

Ob vsem tem zmagoslavju jim manjka samo še napad na NATO generale, ki se bodo po stari navadi skrivali v kakem vrtcu ali osnovni šoli.

asda je 23. apr 2025 ob 13:03:23 izjavil:

WhiteAngel je 6. apr 2025 ob 21:49 izjavil:

Stane2 je 6. apr 2025 ob 20:40 izjavil:

Končno. Tole so zagotovo AI droni. Rusi so naf*kal, ker bodo zdaj swarm takihle poslali na rafinarije na drugo stran Rusije. Počakajmo kakšen teden.

mancslo je 6. apr 2025 ob 17:31 izjavil:

Teški poznavalci :) dva tedna sta okol,a rusi že šibajo domov?

Trije dnevi so že davno mimo. So Rusi že v Kijevu ?

Ukinitev vseh sankcij od 2014 spada pod art of the deal?

JohnyQ_ je 23. apr 2025 ob 13:27:24 izjavil:

asda je 23. apr 2025 ob 13:03:23 izjavil:

WhiteAngel je 6. apr 2025 ob 21:49 izjavil:

Stane2 je 6. apr 2025 ob 20:40 izjavil:

Končno. Tole so zagotovo AI droni. Rusi so naf*kal, ker bodo zdaj swarm takihle poslali na rafinarije na drugo stran Rusije. Počakajmo kakšen teden.

mancslo je 6. apr 2025 ob 17:31 izjavil:

Teški poznavalci :) dva tedna sta okol,a rusi že šibajo domov?

Trije dnevi so že davno mimo. So Rusi že v Kijevu ?

Trije dnevi brez amerike pa evrope,še niso mimo ;)

To naj bi na mizo dal Trump, vsaj tako piše Žurnal:

https://www.zurnal24.si/svet/trump-na-m...

Takole imamo sedaj, kaj dobi Rusija:

What Russia gets under Trump's proposal:
- "De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.
- "De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.
- A promise that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO. The text notes that Ukraine could become part of the European Union.
- The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014.
- Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial sectors.

In Ukrajina:

- "A robust security guarantee" involving an ad hoc group of European countries and potentially also like-minded non-European countries. The document is vague in terms of how this peacekeeping operation would function and does not mention any U.S. participation.
- The return of the small part of Kharkiv oblast Russia has occupied.
- Unimpeded passage of the Dnieper River, which runs along the front line in parts of southern Ukraine.
- Compensation and assistance for rebuilding, though the document does not say where the funding will come from.

In še malenkost, kako bo USA nategnila poraženca, po moje je to posebej všeč putinu:

- The Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant -- the largest such facility in Europe -- will be considered as Ukrainian territory but operated by the U.S., with electricity supplied to both Ukraine and Russia.
- The document references the U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal, which Trump has said will be signed on Thursday.

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/22/trump-...

Zelenski bi naj ze zavrnil to.
Putin je moral nekaj vec vedeti,ker je pristal na pogajanja z Zelenskim, verjetno je pricakoval, da bo Zelenski proti in da ne bo pogajanj.
Do še pred nekaj tednov ni bil za pogajanja z Zelenskim.

fikus_ je 23. apr 2025 ob 14:03:16 izjavil:

To naj bi na mizo dal Trump, vsaj tako piše Žurnal:

https://www.zurnal24.si/svet/trump-na-m...

Izgleda kot zelo slab sporazum za Kijev.

Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia
Vice President JD Vance said the cease-fire plan would freeze territory along the current front lines of the Russia-Ukraine conflict and that the U.S. would "walk away" if both parties did not agree.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/23/worl...

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Vice President JD Vance speaks on a tarmac in front of cameras and a microphone.
"We've issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process," Vice President JD Vance said on Wednesday in India.Credit...Kenny Holston/The New York Times
Michael D. ShearMark Landler
By Michael D. Shear and Mark Landler
Reporting from London

April 23, 2025
Updated 12:03 p.m. ET

Vice President JD Vance on Wednesday called on Ukraine to accept an American peace proposal that closely mirrors longstanding Russian demands, including a "freeze" of territorial lines in the three-year war, acceptance of the annexation of Crimea by Russia and a prohibition on Ukraine becoming part of the NATO alliance.

It was the first time a U.S. official had publicly laid out a cease-fire deal in such stark terms and the comments appeared designed to increase pressure on Ukraine, which has long refused to accept Russia's claims on its lands, particularly in Crimea.

Mr. Vance, speaking during a trip to India, said the United States would "walk away" from the peace process if both Ukraine and Russia refused to accept the American terms. But President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine was clearly the target.

"We've issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process," Mr. Vance told reporters. "The only way to really stop the killing is for the armies to both put down their weapons, to freeze this thing and to get on with the business of actually building a better Russia and a better Ukraine."

The vice president's comments came just hours after Mr. Zelensky said his country will never accept Russia's 2014 occupation of Crimea as legal, adding that doing so would violate Ukraine's Constitution. He also said that Ukraine could not accept any prohibition against becoming part of NATO.

"There is nothing to talk about. This violates our Constitution. This is our territory, the territory of the people of Ukraine," Mr. Zelensky told reporters in a news conference.

On Wednesday afternoon, Yulia Svyrydenko, the Ukrainian economy minister, also vowed that her country "will never recognize the occupation of Crimea." Writing on X, the social media site, she said that "Ukraine is ready to negotiate -- but not to surrender. There will be no agreement that hands Russia the stronger foundations it needs to regroup and return with greater violence."

The threat by Mr. Vance to walk away from peace talks were similar to comments last week from Secretary of State Marco Rubio and from President Trump, who said in the Oval Office that if the two sides don't agree quickly to a deal, "we're just going to say, 'You're foolish, you're fools, you're horrible people, and we're going to just take a pass.'"

On Wednesday, Mr. Vance told reporters in India that under the American proposal, "We're going to freeze the territorial lines at some level close to where they are today."

"The current lines, or somewhere close to them, is where you're ultimately, I think, going to draw the new lines in the conflict," he added. "Now, of course, that means the Ukrainians and the Russians are both going to have to give up some of the territory they currently own."

The vice president did not say what territory Russia would have to give up.

A peace plan that would leave Russian forces deep inside eastern Ukraine would be welcome news in Moscow, where President Vladimir V. Putin has said for almost year that he would accept a cease-fire in which Ukraine withdraws troops from the four regions that Moscow has claimed as its own and drop its aspirations to join NATO.

Russia currently occupies 18.7 percent of Ukraine, according to DeepState, an online research group with ties to the Ukrainian army.

A freeze would essentially force Ukraine to effectively surrender huge swaths of land to Russia and would violate the principles of self-determination and borders that has animated the United States and European nations to support Ukraine since Russia's invasion.

A Kremlin spokesman on Wednesday welcomed Mr. Vance's remarks.

"The United States is continuing its mediation efforts, and we certainly welcome those efforts," Dmitri S. Peskov, the spokesman, said. "Our interactions are ongoing but, to be sure, there is a lot of nuances around the peace settlement that need to be discussed."

The aggressive push for a deal by Mr. Trump's administration is a blow to European leaders, who have spent the last several weeks attempting to support Ukraine by brokering peace talks. The first effort convened last week in Paris and another session was set to start on Wednesday in London before Mr. Rubio announced on Tuesday night that he would no longer attend.

His decision to pull out prompted Britain's foreign secretary, David Lammy, to decide that he, too, would not attend -- though Mr. Lammy met separately with Ukraine's foreign minister in London.

Lower-level diplomats from Britain, France, Germany, Ukraine, and the United States still gathered for technical talks. But the absence of the United States raised fears that Ukraine and Europe were being marginalized as the Trump administration seemed to be working primarily with Russia to formulate a cease-fire plan.

Those still meeting are expected to discuss details of the Trump administration's proposed plan, which calls on Ukraine to recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea -- a move that much of the international community deemed illegal -- and accept that its NATO aspirations will go unmet.

But expectations that the talks might produce progress toward a cease-fire had plummeted after Wednesday's developments, which served to push European diplomats to the sidelines of the discussions between the United States and Russia.

Andriy Yermak, the Ukrainian president's chief of staff, arrived in London Wednesday morning for the scaled-back talks along with his country's ministers of defense and foreign affairs.

"Despite everything," he wrote on X, the social media platform, after arriving, "we continue working for peace."

Even before his comments Tuesday, Mr. Zelensky had conveyed his opposition to the American demands in a conversation with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, according to an official familiar with the conversation. Mr. Zelensky laid out his positions on Crimea and NATO, the official said, and Mr. Rutte later called Mr. Trump and conveyed Mr. Zelensky's answer.

A British official said the decision to scale back the meeting was made during a call between Mr. Rubio and Mr. Lammy, with the two men concluding that further technical talks were necessary before the foreign ministers met again. But Mr. Rubio's decision to cancel clearly caught the British off guard, according to a second official who said Mr. Lammy had fully expected the secretary of state in London on Wednesday.

Instead of participating in a larger meeting, Mr. Lammy met one-on-one with the Ukrainian foreign minister, Andrii Sybiha, while the British defense secretary, John Healey, met his Ukrainian counterpart, Rustem Umerov, according to the British official. Mr. Lammy also dropped in on a lunch that included senior national security advisers from Britain, France, and Germany, as well as the Ukrainian delegation and General Kellogg.

Mr. Peskov on Wednesday told Russian news agencies that the London meeting fell through because of an apparent lack of progress in the negotiations before that.

"As far as we understand, they did not manage to move closer on some of the issues, that's why that meeting did not take place," he said.

Agent krasnov dela za Kremelj, ki mu je financiral kampanjo
Tako da ni težko razumeti te slabe šale od mirovnega sporazuma.

Trump je že nepopravljivo poškodoval ukrajinsko pozicijo v teh pogajanjih, še danes mi ni jasno kaj je razlog, če ravno ni dobesedno Putinov agent.

Tudi to, da se na vsak način hoče ušunjati v Zaporožje NPP je mrhovinarsko do onemoglosti.

Pravzaprav, okej, pa naj odjebe Trumpova administracija. Bo EU vsaj svoj šef kar se strategije tiče. Bidenove zaloge bodo trajale menda še tja do konca leta, nuja pa bo pač prisilila EU in zaveznice, da najdejo način, da se vzdržuje vsaj status Quo na fronti. Kapacitete za proizvodnjo tako v Ukrajini kot EU rastejo, sčasoma bo verjetno lažje. V skrajni sili se počaka na drugo administracijo v ZDA, pa če to zveni še tako shitty. Ekonomija EU, Kanade, Koreje, Japonske, Avstralije bo pač zdržala dlje kot ruska.

Rubio Chamberlain?

sir_mha je 23. apr 2025 ob 19:59:52 izjavil:

Ko pridejo stvari do te točke, kot smo zdaj, je seveda emotivno težje prenašat gansterje in bedake. Samo to je bilo že nekaj časa jasno, kako se bo Trumpova intervencija končala. Ukrajinci lahko tudi zavrnejo ta deal, od Trumpa itak ničesar ne bodo dobili, s tem so se verjetno že sprijaznili. Vprašanje je le, če lahko zdržijo vojne pritiske v nedogled, vsaj do smrti Putina.

Še enkrat izpostavljam, vsi detajli še niso znani. Predvsem, ali mora Ukrajina tudi priznati Krim (kar je pravno nemogoče brez spremembe ustave), kdo in koliko bo plačal reparacije (znano bo samo, kaj bo Ukrajina morala plačati ZDA), in kašne garancije bo Ukrajina dobila, da ne bi Putina še enkrat zamikalo.

Kar pa je znano, NATO de facto več ne obstaja.

Ta sporazum je brezveze za Ukrajino.
Kapitulacijo Lahko gredo podpisat v Moskvo brez oranžnega orangutana.

NATO je še vedno NATO, tudi brez ZDA (za naslednje 4 leta) in še dobro da je.