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Pac-Man ::

Russia is winning, but here’s the catch - Five explanations for the Kremlin’s recent foreign-policy dominance (and why it’s not such a rosy picture after all)

Zanimiv del, pojasni tudi neumnost trumpove odločitve o umiku vojske s turške meje.

It’s widely believed in the West, and to some extent in Russia, that today’s Kremlin compensates for its lack of resources relative to the Soviet era by adopting riskier tactics. I disagree. Just consider Russia’s involvement in Syria, and remember the USSR’s intervention in Afghanistan. Who took the greater risk, and which operation looks more like an ill-conceived gamble?

When assessing states’ willingness to take risks, there’s one thing we must take into account: leaders of relatively weak countries often try to exaggerate their capacity for risky, improvised action. They deliberately cultivate a sense of “strategic ambiguity” among adversaries, partly compensating for disparities in the real balance of power. This sometimes requires the misleading impression that a particular leader is ready to go all the way.

In a sense, this is the same strategy experienced poker players might use when holding weak cards and trying to force other players from the game. They win these hands thanks to a sober analysis of their options and a good grasp of their opponents’ psychology, not because they’re ready to risk it all.


Many will likely object to this notion, but I argue that Russian policy since 2014 has generally stood out because it seeks to minimize risks. There’s a persistent feeling that Moscow is concerned with carefully calculating the balance of possible gains and losses, in order to avoid dangerous escalations as much as possible. Recently, Moscow has been extra careful in international affairs, refraining from actions that might occasion new information-propagandistic campaigns against Russia (with the noteworthy exception of the Kremlin’s reaction to recent street protests in Moscow, which could not go unnoticed in the West).
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Nisem še pogledal, 42 minut

Bringing Down Baghdadi - A VICE News Report on VICELAND
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Se spomnimo tega videa, ki se v milijon primerih uporablja kot prikaz lažnih napadov? Krizni igralci, false flag pa to?

How to fake bombing casualties

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=286_147...
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=8d0_147...

Na metabunk so bili zmedeni
https://www.metabunk.org/something-stra...

pri Bellingcatu so spisali poglobljen članek
The Remarkable Case of an Iraqi Car Bomb

NYT in NZ Herald sta o resničnih dogodkih poročala že avgusta 2018, ampak je do Higginsa prišlo šele zdaj, čeprav avtor Bellingcatovega članka že lep čas dela pri NYT.

Šlo je za operacijo iraške obveščevalne, s katero so želeli ISIS prepričati v uspešnost bombnih napadov, čeprav jih je izvajal njihov vohun, ki se je vsakič ustavil še pri bombnih tehnikih. Na koncu so ga izvohali in usmrtili.



Fake bombs and actors playing dead: The world's most dangerous undercover operation

...

But all was not as it seemed. For when the car exploded the street was empty. Only after the device detonated did the 'wounded' run in, taking up their positions like well-trained actors.
The payload of the original bomb had been replaced by a much smaller device, designed to deceive rather than destroy.
The ruse was the work of Captain Harith al-Sudani, a mole from Iraq's little-known Falcon Intelligence Cell, who managed to penetrate the highest ranks of Islamic State.
When the footage was taken in 2016, he was 14 months into one of the world's most dangerous undercover operations.
As he posed as a jihadi, his job with the terror group was to transport bombs to specific targets before detonating them.
But in reality, the father of three was handing them over for his team to disable, and then faking explosions and casualties so that IS leaders believed their sick plots had succeeded.

...

Thinking that a murderous terrorist plot had been carried out as planned, the IS-linked Amaq News Agency laid claim to the bombing.
But the 'attack' – including the arrival of the fake victims – had been caught on CCTV from a neighbouring building, and the footage subsequently leaked. Security officials shut down rumours of a hoax, with some claiming the scene was actually a film set.
It is only now, with the heroic double-agent dead and IS near-defeated on the battlefield, that the truth can be revealed.
Captain al-Sudani, considered one of Iraq's greatest spies, foiled 30 vehicle-explosion attacks and prevented 18 suicide bombings.

...

Weeks after the car bomb was caught on camera, 36-year-old Captain al-Sudani, a former computer technician, sent his father a text on New Year's Eve.
"Pray for me," he wrote, as he set out on what was to be his penultimate mission in the markets of eastern Baghdad.

...

Footage released by IS in August 2017 shows the moment that Iraqi intelligence officers believe he was executed. It is not known how long he was held captive, although it is likely he was tortured.
Captain al-Sudani is thought to be one of the four prisoners, blindfolded and wearing orange jumpsuits, seen being shot in a wooded area in the IS propaganda video.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Saj je možno, da so res tako nerodni, ampak takole čez prst Kremlju neprijetni nadpovprečno pogosto umrejo po padcu z višine v centru mesta.

Tokrat soustanovitelj belih čelad. V Istanbulu je padel z balkona.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl...

James Le Mesurier, who helped found the "White Helmets" a volunteer first responder group in Syria, has been found dead near his home in Istanbul, the organisation and a diplomat have said.

The former British Army officer was the director of Mayday Rescue charity that trained members of the Syria Civil Defence or White Helmets, playing a major role in its creation in Turkey in 2013.

He was awarded an Order of the British Empire for his work three years later.

His death comes just days after he was accused of being a spy in a tweet by the Russian foreign ministry.

It is not known how Mr Le Mesurier died, but Turkish media reported he may have fallen from the balcony of his apartment in the Turkish city.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

fikus_ ::

". . . ampak takole čez prst Kremlju neprijetni nadpovprečno pogosto umrejo po padcu z višine v centru mesta."

Kaj ima tukaj Kremelj zraven, če se je zgodilo v Istanbulu. So mu mogoče pomagali?

Mr.B ::

A niso rusi, bolj exsoticni strupi, SA maceta, americani pa samomori..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Fritz ::

No, poglejmo še kak drug vir...

James Le Mesurier, a British ex-mercenary, founded the White Helmets in 2013. The group has been lauded for its "humanitarian" efforts in Syria, but they have actually functioned more as a logistics and propaganda arm of Syria's al-Qaeda branch, complete with training from Le Mesurier.

...it was Le Mesurier's "'realization that humanitarian aid was more effective at maintaining war than an army" that spurred his creation of the organization in order "to maintain public support for another costly war in a country that is, in reality, posing little to no threat to mainland America" or its allies.

Prior to his founding of the White Helmets, Le Mesurier served as Vice President for Special Projects at the Olive Group, a private mercenary organization that has since merged with Blackwater-Academi into what is now known as Constellis Holdings. Then, in 2008, Le Mesurier left the Olive Group after he was appointed to the position of Principal at Good Harbor Consulting, chaired by Richard A. Clarke - a veteran of the U.S. national security establishment and the counter-terrorism "czar" under the Bush and Clinton administrations.

It should come as no surprise then that, since their founding, the White Helmets have been instrumental in blaming the Syrian government for any and all subsequent chemical weapons attacks in Syria, acting as both witnesses and responders to events that were later proven to be the work of the armed opposition in Syria or staged.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/james-le-...

Glede na delovanje Belih čelad bi ga lahko pospravila tudi sirska Mukhabarat ali kakšna od zahodnih služb, ki briše sledi. Za zdaj je še vse odprto...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

Kaj ima tukaj Kremelj zraven, če se je zgodilo v Istanbulu. So mu mogoče pomagali?

Da, namigujem na to možnost.

Why Do Russian Journalists Keep Falling?

Maybe Maxim Borodin was depressed in ways his friends just didn't recognize and threw himself off of his fifth-floor balcony this week in Yekaterinburg, Russia.

...

In March 2007, Ivan Safronov, who was investigating the sale of Russian arms to Iran and Syria, died after falling from a fifth-floor window. It was ruled a suicide.

In November 2009, independent broadcaster Olga Kotovskaya fell to her death from a 14th-floor window. She had been battling for control of her station with a member of the government. Her death was also ruled a suicide.

In February 2012, Victor Aphanasenko, editor of a newspaper that had been investigating paramilitary raids in southern Russia, died after slipping in his home.

In November 2015, Mikhail Lesin, who was often described as President Vladimir Putin's state media czar but who had fallen out of favor with him, was found dead after a fall in his hotel room in Washington, D.C. The FBI says he fell from extreme drinking and had "blunt force trauma to the head" and injuries to his neck, arms, legs and torso. That must have been some fall.

In March 2017, Nikolai Gorokhov, the lawyer for Sergei Magnitsky, who was the source of reporting on Russia's largest tax fraud, fell from a fourth-story window while trying to move a bathtub. Russian authorities made that explanation with a straight face.



In Istanbul jim ne predstavlja nobenega problema.

Have Russian hitmen been killing with impunity in Turkey?

A series of assassinations has taken place in Turkey of men from the countries of the former USSR. There's evidence that some were carried out by killers from Russia, writes Murad Batal Shishani - including, in one case, names, photographs and a memory stick carelessly left behind for Turkish police to study.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Fritz ::

Če se je Le Mesurier komu res zameril, so to Sirci, ki tudi delujejo v Turčiji. Rusi in Zahodnjaki si načeloma ne pobijajo vohunov, ker bi to pomenilo, da bi se vsi našli na seznamu za odstrel.

Torej, ne izključujem možnosti, da so ga defenestrirali Rusi, le njihov motiv za to ni ravno hudo močan. White helmets so predvsem škodovali Siriji in sirskemu režimu. Defenestracija pa vsekakor ni nekaj na kar imajo Rusi ali Sirci monopol.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Mr.B ::

In to so naredili ravno sedaj, ko bi ga lahko zaslisali....Pac samomori, tudi prostovolni, so bolj prefinjeni...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Saj je možno, da so res tako nerodni, ampak takole čez prst Kremlju neprijetni nadpovprečno pogosto umrejo po padcu z višine v centru mesta.

Možno, da se je sam prekucnil. Video, deluje malenkost okajen.

https://twitter.com/AsaadHannaa/status/...
That's James Le Mesurier, exactly at the place where they found him died in front of the house, was dancing with this little girl on Bella Ciao and smiling.
He loved the life, the children, and wanted to make better world despite all the obstacles he had...
Sad end to the story
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

zmaugy ::

Komaj čakam, da slišim komentarje desničarjev na obisk Trumpovega prijatelja Erdogana v ZDA:

"Trump ob ogorčenju kritikov sprejel "prijatelja" Erdogana"

https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/s-in-j-ameri...

Trump si želi, da Evropa sprejme pripadnike ISISa. Slovenski desničarji vzhičeni od radosti, ane?
Biseri...
PS: MENSA klub ST, obvoz. ŠIC! Ne zanimajo me vaše neštetokrat reciklirane
neumnosti.

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zmaugy ::

https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/s-in-j-ameri...

Upsi, tokrat je to željo (da naj EU sprejme pripadnike ISIS) izrazil Trumpov prijatelj Erdogan, ki je tudi dejal, da jih bo v nasprotnem primeru samo šuknil v EU. Ampak želja Trumpovega prijatelja je za desničarja ukaz, ane? Itak da je isto od Evrope v preteklosti že zahteval tudi Trump.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/30/opin...

Trump je tokrat dejal, da želi, da EU sprejme več beguncev iz Sirije. Zdaj pa fantje na desni odprite vrata svojih hiš in stanovanj, Trump vam je dal ukaz.
Biseri...
PS: MENSA klub ST, obvoz. ŠIC! Ne zanimajo me vaše neštetokrat reciklirane
neumnosti.

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Urbano#Desno ::

Žvečim.....

Normalni del eu populacije je bil vedno proti uvozu znanstvenikov iz shit hole držav. Žal pa eu vodijo levi norčki, ki to podpirajo in Trump jim je samo nastavil ogledalo. Nobenega razloga ni da bi ZDA vedno reševala evropo pred lastnimi neumnostmi in da bo skozi skrbela za mir na drugih celinah. Tipson obvlada in predvsem ni pokvarjen kot večina eu politike.

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Fritz ::

Urbano#Desno je izjavil:

Žvečim.....

Normalni del eu populacije je bil vedno proti uvozu znanstvenikov iz shit hole držav. Žal pa eu vodijo levi norčki, ki to podpirajo in Trump jim je samo nastavil ogledalo. Nobenega razloga ni da bi ZDA vedno reševala evropo pred lastnimi neumnostmi in da bo skozi skrbela za mir na drugih celinah. Tipson obvlada in predvsem ni pokvarjen kot večina eu politike.

Nabijaš in lažeš...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

zmaugy ::

Urbano#Desno je izjavil:

Žvečim.....

Normalni del eu populacije je bil vedno proti uvozu znanstvenikov iz shit hole držav. Žal pa eu vodijo levi norčki, ki to podpirajo in Trump jim je samo nastavil ogledalo. Nobenega razloga ni da bi ZDA vedno reševala evropo pred lastnimi neumnostmi in da bo skozi skrbela za mir na drugih celinah. Tipson obvlada in predvsem ni pokvarjen kot večina eu politike.


Ne nakladaj. Jasno je, kaj vaš vodja hoče in to je, da Evropa sprejme več beguncev. Ker na desni vedno zagovarjate vse idiotizme, ki jih izreče, pričakujem da boste podprli tudi to zahtevo in odprli svoja vrata.

Od zdaj naprej lahko pričakujete vprašanja kot so: ”Koliko beguncev si že sprejel v svoje stanovanje?”
Have fun and MAGA... :))

PS: Pa da ne slišim še kdaj kakšne grde besede na račun Turčije in Erdogana! >:D
Biseri...
PS: MENSA klub ST, obvoz. ŠIC! Ne zanimajo me vaše neštetokrat reciklirane
neumnosti.

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Fritz ::

V Idlibstanu se je začela nova ofenziva sirske vojske..napredujejo z jugovzhoda:
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/11...

Na severu Sirije, pri Tal Tamerju sta SAA i SDF skupaj ustavili napredovanje od Turčije podprtih islamistov, jim prizadejali precejšnje izgube ter pričeli s protiofenzivo:
https://twitter.com/EmmanuelGMay/status...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Poldi112 ::

Urbano#Desno je izjavil:

Nobenega razloga ni da bi ZDA ... in da bo skozi skrbela za mir na drugih celinah.


Furat imperij in skrbeti za mir sta 2 različni stvari. Svetovni policaj fura tanke in podmornice, ne marice...
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

Smrekar1 ::

Poldi112 je izjavil:


Furat imperij in skrbeti za mir sta 2 različni stvari. Svetovni policaj fura tanke in podmornice, ne marice...


V bistvu sta to dve točno isti stvari. Marice lahko furaš takrat, ko imaš za sabo legalno podporo zakaj vladaš svetu.

To praviloma ne gre.

Mr.B ::

Smrekar1 je izjavil:

Poldi112 je izjavil:


Furat imperij in skrbeti za mir sta 2 različni stvari. Svetovni policaj fura tanke in podmornice, ne marice...


V bistvu sta to dve točno isti stvari. Marice lahko furaš takrat, ko imaš za sabo legalno podporo zakaj vladaš svetu.

To praviloma ne gre.

Zudno da to niti izrael ne dela, ampak raje oklepnike pripelje...
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

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Pac-Man ::

Rusi so se odločili, da je treba našišat Blackwater. Del z macolo je bil že javno znan, obglavljenje, nogomet z glavo in zažig trupla je novo.
Jup, evropske vrednote. Tam nekoč v srednjem veku.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/11...

Faces of the fighters in a Russian PMC that tortured (with a sledgehammer) and beheaded a man, and then set him on fire in Syria. @obretix has geolocated the footage to the Shaer gas facility, which was under guard by Wagner fighters in 2017. The victim was a Syrian army deserter.

See previous research from @CITeam_en on the incident from 2017. @theleadflamer found a few new videos from the same incident on a private Wagner group on VK, where fighters are sharing the clips:
https://www.facebook.com/CITeam.org/pos...




https://twitter.com/obretix/status/1194...

a satellite image from Nov 2016 has a few matching details to this quick-and-dirty stitched panorama, like this rectangular patch of orange sludge, or whatever it is, on the edge of the pond
more matching details in this video of the Sha'er gas facility from April 2017





https://twitter.com/theleadflamer/statu...

A member of one of the private group on VK recently posted previously unreleased parts of the well-known footage showing most likely "Wagner" PMC`s torturing a civilian person.
The clip begins with showing a soldier beheading the presumably unconscious or already dead body. In their turn, his fellow mates are adviiing him on how to do it properly and quickly, saying in the end "And this will happen to every ISIS fighter."
The cameraman refers to one of the soldiers as "Pamir" who, therefore, reminds him to not pronounce the names on video.

The second extract displays the soldiers trying to lynch the body. In the process, they discuss where they would hang it. "Where the commander says". The cameraman tells another soldier to hide the face. "So will we play football today?", asks a fighter while kicking the head.
All people (?) in the video speak Russian. The song in the background is "Я российский спецназ, я иду убивать".

The new part came up. Those inhumans hanged the lynched body upside down on some girders and set it on fire. Jesus Christ. Funny thing that one of Russians says that there is no reason to worry about hiding faces cause "it`s [the vid] not gonna get anywhere"
Identifying these individuals is the task.



Žrtev, v tvitu je prilepljen star video z macolo:
https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/9878...

Man in infamous #Wagner PMC torture video rprtdly identified by family as Hamadi Taha Al-Boutah, from Kharitah, #DeirEzzor. He worked in Lebanon, detained 4 military service when in #Syria on a visit. Allegedly deserted but was caught at a Wagner/#SAA cpt. Still missing 1 year on

His cousin told @BBCNews that Hamadi didn't know he was wanted for Reserves Service. "He was detained as soon as he crossed," he said. For 15 days, Hamadi tried to desert until he was successful. Cousin supplied BBC with photo of him wearing same pullover in #Wagner footage.
Hamadi's cousin told @BBCNews the family knew of his plans to desert his #SAA unit in #Homs. Last contact was on the day he deserted. Hamadi then went totally dark. Family thought he was kidnapped/murdered by #IslamicState. A few days ago, someone showed them the Wagner footage.

"We've lost touch with him. Now we're getting news that he's held somewhere in a regime prison. Some middlemen are asking for money to check on his status. But there's been no evidence that he still exists".
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Pac-Man ::

Tako izgleda zmagovanje po Trumpovo. Video helikopterskega desanta v izpraznjeno bazo na povezavi.

https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status...
Today in Syria: Russia takes control of main U.S. military facility abandoned earlier this week by American forces on Trump’s orders. This area is south of Kobani and went to Russia under the Putin-Erdogan deal. Russia now also owns the airstrip we built.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Rusi so se odločili, da je treba našišat Blackwater. Del z macolo je bil že javno znan, obglavljenje, nogomet z glavo in zažig trupla je novo.
Jup, evropske vrednote. Tam nekoč v srednjem veku.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/11...

Faces of the fighters in a Russian PMC that tortured (with a sledgehammer) and beheaded a man, and then set him on fire in Syria. @obretix has geolocated the footage to the Shaer gas facility, which was under guard by Wagner fighters in 2017. The victim was a Syrian army deserter.

See previous research from @CITeam_en on the incident from 2017. @theleadflamer found a few new videos from the same incident on a private Wagner group on VK, where fighters are sharing the clips:
https://www.facebook.com/CITeam.org/pos...




https://twitter.com/obretix/status/1194...

a satellite image from Nov 2016 has a few matching details to this quick-and-dirty stitched panorama, like this rectangular patch of orange sludge, or whatever it is, on the edge of the pond
more matching details in this video of the Sha'er gas facility from April 2017





https://twitter.com/theleadflamer/statu...

A member of one of the private group on VK recently posted previously unreleased parts of the well-known footage showing most likely "Wagner" PMC`s torturing a civilian person.
The clip begins with showing a soldier beheading the presumably unconscious or already dead body. In their turn, his fellow mates are adviiing him on how to do it properly and quickly, saying in the end "And this will happen to every ISIS fighter."
The cameraman refers to one of the soldiers as "Pamir" who, therefore, reminds him to not pronounce the names on video.

The second extract displays the soldiers trying to lynch the body. In the process, they discuss where they would hang it. "Where the commander says". The cameraman tells another soldier to hide the face. "So will we play football today?", asks a fighter while kicking the head.
All people (?) in the video speak Russian. The song in the background is "Я российский спецназ, я иду убивать".

The new part came up. Those inhumans hanged the lynched body upside down on some girders and set it on fire. Jesus Christ. Funny thing that one of Russians says that there is no reason to worry about hiding faces cause "it`s [the vid] not gonna get anywhere"
Identifying these individuals is the task.



Žrtev, v tvitu je prilepljen star video z macolo:
https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/9878...

Man in infamous #Wagner PMC torture video rprtdly identified by family as Hamadi Taha Al-Boutah, from Kharitah, #DeirEzzor. He worked in Lebanon, detained 4 military service when in #Syria on a visit. Allegedly deserted but was caught at a Wagner/#SAA cpt. Still missing 1 year on

His cousin told @BBCNews that Hamadi didn't know he was wanted for Reserves Service. "He was detained as soon as he crossed," he said. For 15 days, Hamadi tried to desert until he was successful. Cousin supplied BBC with photo of him wearing same pullover in #Wagner footage.
Hamadi's cousin told @BBCNews the family knew of his plans to desert his #SAA unit in #Homs. Last contact was on the day he deserted. Hamadi then went totally dark. Family thought he was kidnapped/murdered by #IslamicState. A few days ago, someone showed them the Wagner footage.

"We've lost touch with him. Now we're getting news that he's held somewhere in a regime prison. Some middlemen are asking for money to check on his status. But there's been no evidence that he still exists".

Done .....se ne rabis trudit.
Trump ignores Pentagon advice and intervenes in military war crimes cases
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Fritz ::

Laž v zvezi s kemičnim napadom v Doumi je vse bolj vidna:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/11/15...

The staging scenario has long been promoted by the Syrian government and its Russian protectors, though without producing evidence. By contrast Henderson and the new whistleblower appear to be completely non-political scientists who worked for the OPCW for many years and would not have been sent to Douma if they had strong political views. They feel dismayed that professional conclusions have been set aside so as to favour the agenda of certain states.

Alex, the new whistleblower, said his aim in going public was not to undermine the OPCW, most of whose investigators are objective scientists, but to persuade the organisation's leadership to allow the Douma team to put forward their findings and answer questions at the week-long annual conference of member states which starts on November 25. "Most of the Douma team felt the two reports on the incident, the Interim Report and the Final Report, were scientifically impoverished, procedurally irregular and possibly fraudulent", he said. Behind his call for the Douma inspectors to address the next OPCW conference was the hope that thereby the watchdog would "demonstrate transparency, impartiality and independence".

But when the analysis of these key levels came back from the laboratories the results were kept with Sami Barrek, a Tunisian who was the Duma fact-finding mission's leader. Against normal expectations they were not passed on to the inspector who was drafting the OPCW's interim report on Douma.

The inspector did, however, have the analysis from the samples of blood, hair, and other biological data from eleven alleged victims who had gone from Douma to Turkey. In no case did the samples reveal any relevant chemicals. On this basis he wrote in his report that the signs and symptoms of victims were not consistent with poisoning from chlorine. Instead of an attack producing multiple fatalities there had been "a non chemical-related event", it said.

On July 4 there was another intervention. Fairweather, the chef de cabinet, invited several members of the drafting team to his office. There they found three US officials who were cursorily introduced without making clear which US agencies they represented. The Americans told them emphatically that the Syrian regime had conducted a gas attack, and that the two cylinders found on the roof and upper floor of the building contained 170 kilograms of chlorine. The inspectors left Fairweather's office, feeling that the invitation to the Americans to address them was unacceptable pressure and a violation of the OPCW's declared principles of independence and impartiality.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

Fritz je izjavil:



1) Offshot Wikileaksa je definitivno legit in ni nobene možnosti, da deluje v interesu ruskih tajnih služb.

Courage Foundation @ Wikipedia

The Courage Foundation is a trust for fundraising the legal defence of individuals such as whistleblowers and journalists.

Founded on August 9, 2013, as the 'Journalistic Source Protection Defence Fund' by WikiLeaks,[1] the site later rebranded in June 2014.[2]


2) In no case did the samples reveal any relevant chemicals. On this basis he wrote in his report that the signs and symptoms of victims were not consistent with poisoning from chlorine.

Videe mrtvih smo verjetno videli vsi. Pobeljene roženice in pena na ustih so tipični znaki zastrupitve s klorom. Ta namreč v stiku z vodo (sluznica) tvori klorovodikovo kislino.

Najprej bo treba razložit to, nato lahko filozofiramo o COC.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Fritz ::

Tkole na hitrco:
Jonathan Steele is a veteran foreign correspondent and author of widely acclaimed studies of international relations. He was the Guardian's bureau chief in Washington in the late 1970s, and its Moscow bureau chief during the collapse of communism.
He was educated at Cambridge and Yale universities, and has written books on Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, South Africa and Germany, including Defeat: Why America and Britain Lost Iraq (I.B.Tauris 2008) and Ghosts of Afghanistan: the Haunted Battleground (Portobello Books 2011).
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Fritz je izjavil:



1) Offshot Wikileaksa je definitivno legit in ni nobene možnosti, da deluje v interesu ruskih tajnih služb.

Courage Foundation @ Wikipedia

The Courage Foundation is a trust for fundraising the legal defence of individuals such as whistleblowers and journalists.

Founded on August 9, 2013, as the 'Journalistic Source Protection Defence Fund' by WikiLeaks,[1] the site later rebranded in June 2014.[2]


2) In no case did the samples reveal any relevant chemicals. On this basis he wrote in his report that the signs and symptoms of victims were not consistent with poisoning from chlorine.

Videe mrtvih smo verjetno videli vsi. Pobeljene roženice in pena na ustih so tipični znaki zastrupitve s klorom. Ta namreč v stiku z vodo (sluznica) tvori klorovodikovo kislino.

Najprej bo treba razložit to, nato lahko filozofiramo o COC.

No zagptovo rusi pisejo o zlocinih clovestva recimo britanskih vojakov v iraki in afganistanu.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Invictus ::

"Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid."

http://goo.gl/2YuS2x

nsa_ag3nt ::

Kot bi bral stripe Alana Forda:
Saudi Arabia, US slam Syria at UN over elections and human rights
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sa...
https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five

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Pac-Man ::

Fritz je izjavil:

Tkole na hitrco:


Tkole na hitrco imamo zelo verjetno opravka z geriatriki, ki imajo lepo število dosežkov v preteklosti, ampak jih počasi daje senilnost.

Tale svež intervju Aarona Matéja s Postolom je s strani slednjega odlična imitacija Giulianija.

Mirno izjavi da sta njegova soavtorja Kitajec in Rus in da so ju pri Bellingcatu obtožili financiranja s strani njunih vlad. Kolikor toliko spremljam in nisem nikjer opazil tovrstnih obtožb, tudi Higgins trdno zanika oz. prosi za vir.

Saj morda je samo senilen in se mu v glavi vrti film, ki mu trdno verjame, ampak obstaja tudi precej realna možnost, da je povedal malenkost preveč. Ker je pač senilen kot Giuliani.



https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status...

Ted Postol gives a bizarre interview with Aaron Mate, where he makes up a story about Bellingcat and myself claiming his study that was pulled from @SGSJournal was funded by Russia and China. We've never said that, he's just making it up.
Maybe @aaronjmate can ask Ted Postol for some evidence to support his allegation Bellingcat and myself accused the writers of his report of being paid by Russia and China, because it seems he just made it up, which really brings into question what else he's making up.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

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Fritz ::

A ti to na Jonathana Steela odgovarjaš s Tedom Postolom? Sam vprašam 8-)
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Fritz ::

Nekaj lepšega iz Sirije:
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Fritz ::

Auč...

Speaking to students at Harvard's John F. Kennedy Forum October 2014, US Vice President Joseph Biden committed what the US media characterizes as a "gaffe." In other words, he told an embarrassing truth about US government policy, one that is usually obfuscated in the remarks of government officials and the commentaries of media pundits.

Asked about US policy in Syria, Biden touched on the dirty secret of the current US-led war against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. ISIS (or ISIL as the Obama administration terms it) is essentially the creation of the United States and its allies who fomented civil war in Syria against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.


"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Smrekar1 ::

Fritz je izjavil:


Asked about US policy in Syria, Biden touched on the dirty secret of the current US-led war against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. ISIS (or ISIL as the Obama administration terms it) is essentially the creation of the United States and its allies who fomented civil war in Syria against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.


V prvi minuti pove točno nasprotno.

Ups.

V pomoč:
https://www.emka.si/webapp/wcs/stores/s...

Pac-Man ::

Fritz je izjavil:

Nekaj lepšega iz Sirije:




Dajmo faktčekat to damaskwood produkcijo.

https://twitter.com/NoorNahas1/status/1...

Another idiotic video of a vlogger on those white-washing regime tours by @Drewbinsky. The most idiotic thing is his visit to a tourist market and this hilariously wrong information he gives.

bruh.
What's amazing though is I saw one of the first possible legitimate uses of @refugees tents in one of his videos. Rare sight!


If it's any consolation to Drew, the Syrian regime was only confirmed to have killed 52 people in October. One of their less deadly months in Syria over the past 8 years of killing hundreds of thousands of civilians.

http://sn4hr.org/wp-content/pdf/english...



Oh no he uploaded another video.

Ah, yes the traditional street-side free candy of Syria. This dude just stole some street beggers candy LOL




Še posel po Sirijsko. Če ne dobi papirjev izgine z denarjem, ti ga pa išči?

https://twitter.com/NoorNahas1/status/1...

So doing a little research into the tour company that @Drewbinsky used after he mentioned the name of the tour guide, it appears he used "Travel King" in Damascus.

Their Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/travelkingsyri...

Doing a little more searching it appears the agency is owned by Basel Alhasan. One site describes him in the picture.
https://garfors.com/how-to-visit-syria/
Seems besides being well connected, Basel has no problem stealing money from potential tourists to Syria. Money must be paid via WesternUnion.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid...
Basel appears in a couple other photos shared by travellers who used Travel King to travel. As far as I can tell he's not on any sanctions or more than anything else but a travel agency owner.
https://www.svenlucaworld.com/en/reiseb...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Mr.B ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Fritz je izjavil:

Nekaj lepšega iz Sirije:




Dajmo faktčekat to damaskwood produkcijo.

https://twitter.com/NoorNahas1/status/1...

Another idiotic video of a vlogger on those white-washing regime tours by @Drewbinsky. The most idiotic thing is his visit to a tourist market and this hilariously wrong information he gives.

bruh.
What's amazing though is I saw one of the first possible legitimate uses of @refugees tents in one of his videos. Rare sight!


If it's any consolation to Drew, the Syrian regime was only confirmed to have killed 52 people in October. One of their less deadly months in Syria over the past 8 years of killing hundreds of thousands of civilians.

http://sn4hr.org/wp-content/pdf/english...



Oh no he uploaded another video.

Ah, yes the traditional street-side free candy of Syria. This dude just stole some street beggers candy LOL




Še posel po Sirijsko. Če ne dobi papirjev izgine z denarjem, ti ga pa išči?

https://twitter.com/NoorNahas1/status/1...

So doing a little research into the tour company that @Drewbinsky used after he mentioned the name of the tour guide, it appears he used "Travel King" in Damascus.

Their Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/travelkingsyri...

Doing a little more searching it appears the agency is owned by Basel Alhasan. One site describes him in the picture.
https://garfors.com/how-to-visit-syria/
Seems besides being well connected, Basel has no problem stealing money from potential tourists to Syria. Money must be paid via WesternUnion.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid...
Basel appears in a couple other photos shared by travellers who used Travel King to travel. As far as I can tell he's not on any sanctions or more than anything else but a travel agency owner.
https://www.svenlucaworld.com/en/reiseb...

Obstaja Iraski Mosul, odlicni kebap stant imajo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold

Pac-Man ::

Tale tvita z letne konference OPCW.

Malenkost shitshowa.

https://twitter.com/dannyctkemp/status/...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

7tom1ja ::

James Le Mesurier, UK agent in ustanovitelj propagandne skupine beli jihad aka "THE WHITE HELMETS" je dočakal roko pravice, ko je v Istambulu "padel" z balkona
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

7tom1ja ::

7tom1ja je izjavil:

James Le Mesurier, UK agent in ustanovitelj propagandne skupine beli jihad aka "THE WHITE HELMETS" je dočakal roko pravice, ko je v Istambulu "padel" z balkona


EDIT, vidim, da sem pozen he he


ha ha, vsebina neprimerna in žaljiva, youtube rules
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

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fikus_ ::

So pa res nerodni tile ISISovci.

Kdo ima interes, da se jih utiša? Assad, Rusi ali zahodne demokracije?

zuzelka ::

fikus_ je izjavil:

So pa res nerodni tile ISISovci.

Kdo ima interes, da se jih utiša? Assad, Rusi ali zahodne demokracije?


Kako bo zahod dobival dovolj zastonj delovne sile če se ustavi ISIS?
Čekmejt ISISfobi!

Pac-Man ::

Tole bo šlo malo off, ker avtor poroča iz južne Amerike, ampak katalizator so bile obtožbe na račun nedavno umrlega soustanovitelja belih čelad.

Tl;Dr
Levičarski novinar trdi & poda dokaze, da Grayzone project, Blumenthal in Norton služijo ideji ruskega in kitajskega imperija.



https://twitter.com/InvisiblesMuros/sta...

A number have ppl have asked me why I distrust @Grayzone as a news source. I put together a thread yesterday and then deleted. wanna skip it?
TLDR: They ARE Imperialists despite their claims to the contrary, they just back a different hegemony.
Norton and Blumenthal wrote much on Syria, tho Norton from NY.
They were pro-rebel, calling for intervention to replace Assad. But after attending a gala with Putin and RT, they suddenly switched sides.
The same Gala that got Flynn from Trump admin and @DrJillStein in hot H2O
Suddenly they were pro-Assad, or at least anti-intervention while Russia backed his war.
As part of their new strategy they began demonizing the White Helmets in Syria, claiming that not only was the aid group a facade, but that they were part of Al Qaeda
Since then, they share content with and are promoted by RT, which the UK stripped of press rights for conspiracy theories, and US declared a foreign agent.
They push any idea useful to Russia - ironic. Because if anything, modern Russia is right wing
How Russia spreads disinformation via RT is more nuanced than we realise

Despite claiming to be "An alternative to Modern Media" Grayzone slanders any pol who threatens Russian interest, and back anyone who serves Russias interest.
They, and Mintpress and TeleSur are a network of disinformation that all collaborate to do so.
How ‘Anti-Imperialism’ became a buzzword for oppressors

Since then they have backed Governments against protesters in Nicaragua, where oppression of dissidents is deadly, and Venezuela, where Maduro quite literally operates death squads.
This is where I 1st started to notice their lies first-hand
I was writing from VZ border in Nov.
As I talked to millions of fleeing Venezuelans who described hunger, oppression, extreme poverty and violent oppression at the hands of Colectivos (VZ militia) and State forces- Grayzone released this series of vids saying everything was fine.

Problem? He was in the richest part of Caracas looking food that was beyond the reach of the 90% of VZ who work for a min wage that wont buy a kilo of rice.
Soon after he was claiming without a shred of evidence that the CIA was arming rebels
VIDEO: A Visit to Mysterious US Air Firm Accused of Arming Right-Wing Insurgency in Venezuela

This confused me as I just kept writing about what was happening. I saw him in Cucuta Feb 23rd recording a segment claiming the aid trucks carried weapons. Obvs he didnt air that. I was like "Wtf is wrong w this guy?"
Failed aid gambit deepens crisis for Venezuelans at closed Colombia border

Next I heard, those whacky white kids were working with code Pink to call Venezuelans racists and took over the VZ embassy in Wash DC
During that time, I was walking 600km w VZ immigrants from Cucuta to Bogota- 1000's of them. article about that here
Surviving on the Underground Railroad to Colombia

I was like, WTF are these idiots doing? So I wrote this piece after conversations w Venezuleans about what was going on. Thats when I started to get a LOT of hatemail. Like, a LOT
Code Pink and the politics of privilege

Since then I notice that everytime TeleSur wants a story out, RT Mintrpress and grayzone always push the same narrative. I have documented countless of their lies, but they don't care. Here is an article about a particularly embarrassing and wild claim
The Curious Case of the Ship Not Lost at Sea

They have accepted gifts from Maduro, given fawning interviews over him, they have danced with the soldiers of Nicaragua as they discredited protesters in strange way
Any country pro-Russia. But they like the protests in Honduras? Why? Gov is pro-US
So protestors there?👍
Now they are anti-Hong Kong protests...claiming they are organized by CIA, that they are against the working class, that they are racial...basically the same pile of manure they pushed in VZ.

To sum: Grayzone are not anti-Imperialist. They back a Russian/Chinese hegemony.
That is to say, they back a RIGHT WING authoritarian government in Moscow and a hyper-capitalist China, while claiming to be independent leftists
There are many, many many more instances of their disinformation. And I say this as a leftist. They are propogandists.


BUT I would like it said, that though they champion countries that kill, censor, detain and intimidate journalists - I support their right to say whatever they want.
Because unlike them, I know people working in those hostile regimes. Freedom of the Press is critical to a free society.

Just be aware, and hold them responsible for the narrative they push. and also be aware, that the "Anti-Imperialist" label is garbage. They very much support an Empire.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

zuzelka ::

A je že impičan oranžni čito?

zmaugy ::

No, kolateralna škoda vojne v Siriji in kretena na oblasti v ZDA je NATO - Kmetavzarskemu zadetku iz Ankare je odpovedala še zadnja možganska celica:

https://www.24ur.com/novice/svet/erdoga...
Biseri...
PS: MENSA klub ST, obvoz. ŠIC! Ne zanimajo me vaše neštetokrat reciklirane
neumnosti.

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Poldi112 ::

Pa saj ima prav. Kurdi dejansko zganjajo terorizem v Turčiji in za njih to je varnostno vprašanje, medtem ko Napoleon wannabe zgolj ne more preboleti bivših kolonij.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.

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zmaugy ::

Kurdi so totalno jebena stranka v Turčiji in terorizem nad njimi kvečjemu zganja Erdogan. Je pa to poetska pravica, ker so Kurdi pomagali Turkom izvesti genocid nad Armenci.

PS: Po pomoti pritisnil Predlagaj izbris.
Biseri...
PS: MENSA klub ST, obvoz. ŠIC! Ne zanimajo me vaše neštetokrat reciklirane
neumnosti.

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7tom1ja ::

Pac-Man je izjavil:

Tole bo šlo malo off, ker avtor poroča iz južne Amerike, ampak katalizator so bile obtožbe na račun nedavno umrlega soustanovitelja belih čelad.

Tl;Dr
Levičarski novinar trdi & poda dokaze, da Grayzone project, Blumenthal in Norton služijo ideji ruskega in kitajskega imperija.



https://twitter.com/InvisiblesMuros/sta...

A number have ppl have asked me why I distrust @Grayzone as a news source. I put together a thread yesterday and then deleted. wanna skip it?
TLDR: They ARE Imperialists despite their claims to the contrary, they just back a different hegemony.
Norton and Blumenthal wrote much on Syria, tho Norton from NY.
They were pro-rebel, calling for intervention to replace Assad. But after attending a gala with Putin and RT, they suddenly switched sides.
The same Gala that got Flynn from Trump admin and @DrJillStein in hot H2O
Suddenly they were pro-Assad, or at least anti-intervention while Russia backed his war.
As part of their new strategy they began demonizing the White Helmets in Syria, claiming that not only was the aid group a facade, but that they were part of Al Qaeda
Since then, they share content with and are promoted by RT, which the UK stripped of press rights for conspiracy theories, and US declared a foreign agent.
They push any idea useful to Russia - ironic. Because if anything, modern Russia is right wing
How Russia spreads disinformation via RT is more nuanced than we realise

Despite claiming to be "An alternative to Modern Media" Grayzone slanders any pol who threatens Russian interest, and back anyone who serves Russias interest.
They, and Mintpress and TeleSur are a network of disinformation that all collaborate to do so.
How ‘Anti-Imperialism’ became a buzzword for oppressors

Since then they have backed Governments against protesters in Nicaragua, where oppression of dissidents is deadly, and Venezuela, where Maduro quite literally operates death squads.
This is where I 1st started to notice their lies first-hand
I was writing from VZ border in Nov.
As I talked to millions of fleeing Venezuelans who described hunger, oppression, extreme poverty and violent oppression at the hands of Colectivos (VZ militia) and State forces- Grayzone released this series of vids saying everything was fine.

Problem? He was in the richest part of Caracas looking food that was beyond the reach of the 90% of VZ who work for a min wage that wont buy a kilo of rice.
Soon after he was claiming without a shred of evidence that the CIA was arming rebels
VIDEO: A Visit to Mysterious US Air Firm Accused of Arming Right-Wing Insurgency in Venezuela

This confused me as I just kept writing about what was happening. I saw him in Cucuta Feb 23rd recording a segment claiming the aid trucks carried weapons. Obvs he didnt air that. I was like "Wtf is wrong w this guy?"
Failed aid gambit deepens crisis for Venezuelans at closed Colombia border

Next I heard, those whacky white kids were working with code Pink to call Venezuelans racists and took over the VZ embassy in Wash DC
During that time, I was walking 600km w VZ immigrants from Cucuta to Bogota- 1000's of them. article about that here
Surviving on the Underground Railroad to Colombia

I was like, WTF are these idiots doing? So I wrote this piece after conversations w Venezuleans about what was going on. Thats when I started to get a LOT of hatemail. Like, a LOT
Code Pink and the politics of privilege

Since then I notice that everytime TeleSur wants a story out, RT Mintrpress and grayzone always push the same narrative. I have documented countless of their lies, but they don't care. Here is an article about a particularly embarrassing and wild claim
The Curious Case of the Ship Not Lost at Sea

They have accepted gifts from Maduro, given fawning interviews over him, they have danced with the soldiers of Nicaragua as they discredited protesters in strange way
Any country pro-Russia. But they like the protests in Honduras? Why? Gov is pro-US
So protestors there?👍
Now they are anti-Hong Kong protests...claiming they are organized by CIA, that they are against the working class, that they are racial...basically the same pile of manure they pushed in VZ.

To sum: Grayzone are not anti-Imperialist. They back a Russian/Chinese hegemony.
That is to say, they back a RIGHT WING authoritarian government in Moscow and a hyper-capitalist China, while claiming to be independent leftists
There are many, many many more instances of their disinformation. And I say this as a leftist. They are propogandists.


BUT I would like it said, that though they champion countries that kill, censor, detain and intimidate journalists - I support their right to say whatever they want.
Because unlike them, I know people working in those hostile regimes. Freedom of the Press is critical to a free society.

Just be aware, and hold them responsible for the narrative they push. and also be aware, that the "Anti-Imperialist" label is garbage. They very much support an Empire.


what a bunch of crap, toliko laži natrosenih v tem postu ne doseže nikoli niti Belingcrap, levičarski novinar ????? ha ha; kakšne dokaze poda ??
Max Blumenthal je spremenil mnenje o Siriji KO JE OBISKAL SIRIJO
Vodja protestov v HK in Marco Rubio sta best buddies
ostalo je pa samo za bruhat, klasična metoda, napadi ljudi ne argumente
Na nas leži naloga, da naprej razvijamo našo samoupravno socialistično družbo,
da jo gradimo na revolucionarnih temeljih, temeljih marksizma.
Brigada AVNOJ 77;Komisar Ivan Janša

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Pac-Man ::

7tom1ja je izjavil:


what a bunch of crap, toliko laži natrosenih v tem postu ne doseže nikoli niti Belingcrap, levičarski novinar ????? ha ha; kakšne dokaze poda ??


Samo to.

https://medium.com/muros-invisibles
https://www.murosinvisibles.com/

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.

Fritz ::

Jp, tale tip se je pojavil od nikoder pred nekaj mesecev in je naenkrat merilo kdo je legit in kdo ne...Paco, tole je še za propagando pod vsako kritiko 8-)
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein

Pac-Man ::

OK, taken. Collins je zelen za ušesi.

Ampak kaj porečeš na 100% Venezuelca, ki je na twitterju od julija 2009

https://twitter.com/DaveTheAsbestos

v prejšnjem življenju je bil frontman alt-rock banda

The Asbestos @ Wikipedia

https://twitter.com/theasbestos

dokler ni bil prisiljen spizdit v tujino



Tudi on trdi, da je Max salonski socialist, ki laže za denar. Nit:

https://twitter.com/DaveTheAsbestos/sta...

Well hello Katie! You've come to the right place!
I will do a thread that gathers a couple of Max's lies on Syria and Venezuela.
Let's start with Syria!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
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