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7982884e ::
se stotic: ne, afrinski kurdi se niso bojevali z americani (so se pa z rusi, tudi rusi so bombardirali tursko FSA ob kurdski osvojitvi letalske baze in mesta tal rifaat). bili so loceni s precej kilometri dzihadistov, bodisi turskih, bodisi isisovcev. seveda so borci se vedno prehajali vmes. ameriska letala niso nikdar delovala nad afrinom in SDF ni nikdar deloval v afrinu (ceprav so borci z YPG in YPJ nasitki delovali povsod).
tako da trdit da je tukaj kakrsnakoli vecja blamaza ameriske diplomacije kot ruske je popolna neumnost. tudi rusi so morali, se bolj kot americani, pokleknit pred erdoganom in mu pustit, da dela sranje. ker rusom erdoganovo etnicno ciscenje in nastavljanje dzihadistov na teren definitivno ni v interesu, tako kot ne sircem in irancem.
zato tudi ni cudno, da so ravno sirci in iranci prakticno edini, ki so ta turski poseg mocno kritizirali, ostali so nekako "turki imajo pravico, da se branijo, samo upamo da ne bo masakrov, bla bla bla"
Ehm, a so se Kurdi bojevali skupaj z Rusi? A so jim Rusi dostavljali orožje in sodelujoče SOF, FAC, JTAC in ostale? A so imeli Rusi grandiozne načrte o kurdski Obmejni straži? Američani so jih pač odpikali..zame čisto pričakovano. To so sicer naredili sila nerodno a so naredili, end of story.
Rusi so ponudili zaščito, če Kurdi priznajo suverenost in teritorialno celovitost Sirije. Ker niso, zaščite niso dobili. Kako se bodo sedaj odvijale zadeve, če si premislijo, ostaja videti. Dejstvo je, da vso tisto jokcanje o krivdi Rusov za Turški napad nima nobene, prav nobene podlage.
Krivi so si pa najbolj Kurdi sami, nihče drug.
in se stotic, afrinski kurdi niso bili del nobenega ameriskega nacrta o obmejni strazi.
to o tem, pod kasnimi pogoji so rusi ponudili zascito, pa tudi precej dvomim, da je bilo kjerkoli karkoli uradnega podpisano. ti zdej trdis, da so rusi sli stran, ker da se kurdi niso drzal nekih bojda dogovorov, ceprav je jasno, da so sli stran, ker je stric erdogan pac tako rekel.
leiito ::
Zanimivo, da Kurdi, ki na podlagi Bookchinovih knjig v praksi udejanjajo trenutno najbolj progresivno ideologijo na svetu, niso deležni neke posebne kritike za ambicije vzpostavitve nečesa, kar je po naravi stvari etno država, etnocentrizem pa je, kot je znano, vir vsega zla in anatema ideologiji, ki jo zastopajo.
Poldi112 ::
Kurdi se borijo za svojo državo, ne za Sirijo.
Zato jih ne Iračani, ne Turki, ne Sirijci, ne marajo.
To me v tem trenutku niti ne zanima kaj preveč. Fora je v tem, da Rusija brani suverenost Sirije s tem, da eni skupini Sircev diktira kdo naj bo poglavar Sirije
To je nekako tako kot da bi nam Merklova ukazala naj bo naš naslednji premier Janez Janša. Kako bi rekel temu? No, Rusi delajo to s tanki in s tem po novem branijo suverenost države
Nope. Rusija kar vsem skupinam v Siriji diktira, na pobudo dejanskega poglavarja sirije. To je nekako tako, kot da se Merklova pri nas meni z Cerarjem in ne z italjansko manjšino.
Zdaj kako si prišel na to, da ti je smešno, da so rusi tisti, ki branijo suverenost sirije, medtem ko tvoji imperialisti hočejo sesuti režim s financiranjem zmernih glavorezcev in bi imeli radi sirijo razkosano, veš pa samo ti. Legenda.
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Walter Lippmann, leta 1922, o predpogoju za demokracijo.
Mr.B ::
Tako so se dogovorili, kot lolek in bolek :
Erdogan also said that the US-backed Syrian Kurdish forces must withdraw to the east of the Euphrates River in Syria and pledged the protection of Manbij city by the Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army against future threats by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) armed group.
Erdogan also said that the US-backed Syrian Kurdish forces must withdraw to the east of the Euphrates River in Syria and pledged the protection of Manbij city by the Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army against future threats by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) armed group.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
Kreganje na relaciji ZDA-Rusija je popolnoma neproduktivno.
Tole so Turški načrti. Zgleda, da se danes okupaciji in širjenju ozemlja reče 'safe zone'
https://twitter.com/OliveBranchOp/statu...
Tole so Turški načrti. Zgleda, da se danes okupaciji in širjenju ozemlja reče 'safe zone'
https://twitter.com/OliveBranchOp/statu...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mr.B ::
Fake news ... Meanwhile, Afrin's Kurdish-run administration called on Syria's government to defend the region against Turkey's offensive.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Kaj pravi Fake news...
In the case of Afrin, Moscow does not owe the YPG much. Throughout the Syrian crisis, the group allied itself with the US and, de facto speaking, placed itself on the opposite side of the conflict. The Kurds rejected Russia's offer to transfer the territory under their control in Afrin to the Syrian regime, in exchange for security guarantees. Washington was unable to help its YPG allies, and this gave Moscow an additional opportunity to once again demonstrate the illusory nature of US security guarantees.
Avtor pa Leonid Issaev.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Le...
Leonid Issaev currently works at the Department of General Political Science, National Research University Higher School of Economics (Moscow). Leonid does research in Conflict Processes, International Relations and Human Rights. Their current project is 'Economic Cycles, Crises, and the Global Periphery.'
Dobesedno gre za iz ruskega proračuna financirano propagando.
ZDA zaenkrat držijo besedo, bo pa potrebno precej diplomacije, da pomirijo sultana. Dobro, da so oskubili kadre na zunanjem ministrstvu.
http://www.newsweek.com/us-military-wil...
The U.S. military intends to remain in the northern Syrian city of Manbij despite an incoming offensive backed by Turkey, which, along with Ankara's rebel allies, has launched an assault on nearby Kurdish forces sponsored by the Pentagon.
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As the complex politics of northern Syria's battlefield erupted into bloodshed between two U.S. allies, Central Command Commander General Joseph Vogel told CNN Monday that withdrawing his troops from nearby Manbij was "not something we are looking into," even as Turkey threatened to advance into the Kurd-controlled city.
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While the Pentagon reiterated its support for Kurdish members of the Syrian Democratic Forces still battling ISIS in rapidly shrinking pockets of territory in the east, U.S. military leadership warned that the U.S.-led coalition would not support Kurdish efforts to reallocate resources to battle Turkey in the northwest. The U.S. has also warned Turkey that its operation was "impeding the task to eliminate ISIS," and President Donald Trump reportedly urged his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, to "exercise caution" in a phone call Wednesday.
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Erdoğan vowed Friday that his forces would "clean up" Manbij and demanded that U.S. forces leave. Analysts described the city as a red line for the U.S.'s tolerance of the Turkish incursion.
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Fritz ::
Lej, lej...Turki s svojimi zavezniki HTS ali po domače Al-Qaida, postavljajo vojsko nasproti SAA:
https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/9580...
https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/9580...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Tarzan ::
Baje že letajo Turki naokoli s svojimi frčoplani in v odgovor obstreljujejo položaje SAA. Sultan izgleda samo čaka, da se mu ponudi priložnost.
Pac-Man ::
Draaaamaaa.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss
Turkish F-16s escorting Turkish tanks and armored vehicles into Idlib. Clashes with regime and Iranian proxies. So far, however, Russia’s role is TBD. (Be surprised if Moscow didn’t know this was happening already.) Russian air defenses at Khmeimim could have easily targeted Turkish warplanes. Clearly some “de-confliction” mechanism in place. But has Putin cut a deal with Erdogan at the expense of Assad and Soleimani?
Right on cue.
The Mayor of Damascus is always the last to know.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss
Turkish F-16s escorting Turkish tanks and armored vehicles into Idlib. Clashes with regime and Iranian proxies. So far, however, Russia’s role is TBD. (Be surprised if Moscow didn’t know this was happening already.) Russian air defenses at Khmeimim could have easily targeted Turkish warplanes. Clearly some “de-confliction” mechanism in place. But has Putin cut a deal with Erdogan at the expense of Assad and Soleimani?
Right on cue.
BREAKING: Netanyahu told Putin Israel would act militarily if the international community won't act to stop Iranian entrenchment in Syria & the building of precision missile factories in LebanonIf reports that Russia fired in front of convoy to halt its progress are true, then I suspect this was to avoid further regime/Iran-Turkey confrontation. Again, Turks wouldn’t have crossed into Idlib without getting some kind of assurance from Moscow. Given Erdogan’s chumminess with Putin, perhaps latter reckoned that it was better to let Turkey cement a “de-escalation zone” rather than Assad (whose forces are laughable) and Iran (whose expansion across Syria gives Moscow headaches; see Netanyahu.) Would also act as a bit of douceur to the (real) opposition, now boycotting Sochi. And get Turks to pressure rebels to attend. US already told Ankara “Idlib is your affair.” So Washington has no play here.
The Mayor of Damascus is always the last to know.
#Turkish convey Targeted the source of the artillery that hit it earlier tonight, and now Turkish fighters are flying over the convey until its stationed in its final destination (Most probably Al ais hill and not the town), #Regime was the last one to know about that conveyFor all its propaganda about “terrorists”, Moscow prefers to let the FSA and armed Islamist and Salafi factions backed by an Islamist government take Afrin from the secular-left YPG. How’s that for anti-imperialism, comrades?
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the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
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Mr.B ::
Draaaamaaa.
https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss
Turkish F-16s escorting Turkish tanks and armored vehicles into Idlib. Clashes with regime and Iranian proxies. So far, however, Russia’s role is TBD. (Be surprised if Moscow didn’t know this was happening already.) Russian air defenses at Khmeimim could have easily targeted Turkish warplanes. Clearly some “de-confliction” mechanism in place. But has Putin cut a deal with Erdogan at the expense of Assad and Soleimani?
Right on cue.BREAKING: Netanyahu told Putin Israel would act militarily if the international community won't act to stop Iranian entrenchment in Syria & the building of precision missile factories in LebanonIf reports that Russia fired in front of convoy to halt its progress are true, then I suspect this was to avoid further regime/Iran-Turkey confrontation. Again, Turks wouldn’t have crossed into Idlib without getting some kind of assurance from Moscow. Given Erdogan’s chumminess with Putin, perhaps latter reckoned that it was better to let Turkey cement a “de-escalation zone” rather than Assad (whose forces are laughable) and Iran (whose expansion across Syria gives Moscow headaches; see Netanyahu.) Would also act as a bit of douceur to the (real) opposition, now boycotting Sochi. And get Turks to pressure rebels to attend. US already told Ankara “Idlib is your affair.” So Washington has no play here.
The Mayor of Damascus is always the last to know.#Turkish convey Targeted the source of the artillery that hit it earlier tonight, and now Turkish fighters are flying over the convey until its stationed in its final destination (Most probably Al ais hill and not the town), #Regime was the last one to know about that conveyFor all its propaganda about “terrorists”, Moscow prefers to let the FSA and armed Islamist and Salafi factions backed by an Islamist government take Afrin from the secular-left YPG. How’s that for anti-imperialism, comrades?
Odloči se že, ler povzemaš članek ki sem ga linkal jaz, praktično po črki zapisanega. Torej kaj se sedaj po fejk newsih sprehajaš, pa misliš da boš bolj resen izpadel ko daš twixic povzetek članka. lol..
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Glava spet ne ve, kaj počnejo roke. Vojskovanje je outsourcano Pentagonu, el presidente pa bluzi za bazo.
https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status...
WTF? We just spent two nights in Afghanistan w @CENTCOM’s Gen Votel this weekend where US commander after commander said they were GLAD they had a new S. Asia strategy SPECIFICALLY w the mission goal to pressure the Taliban to reconciliation talks.
https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status...
WTF? We just spent two nights in Afghanistan w @CENTCOM’s Gen Votel this weekend where US commander after commander said they were GLAD they had a new S. Asia strategy SPECIFICALLY w the mission goal to pressure the Taliban to reconciliation talks.
Trump on Afghanistan: "There’s no talking to the Taliban. We don’t want to talk to the Taliban."
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
windigo ::
Glava spet ne ve, kaj počnejo roke. Vojskovanje je outsourcano Pentagonu, el presidente pa bluzi za bazo.
Se vidi tudi v Siriji.
Američanom je na najvišjem nivoju (t.j. State Department, Trump & West Wing decide nothing) pravzaprav vseeno, kdo jim blokira Irance na poti do Izraela, ali so to Kurdi, ali je to Erdogan. Zadnič sem mislil, da bodo stali za Kurdi in bodo ustavili NATO zaveznika Erdogana, ampak zgleda da nimajo te moči, ali pa tudi volje ne na ta pravem nivoju, kjer se grozi z velikimi krepeli. Tretje opcije pa že več nimajo. Edina zoprna stvar je, da so Turki do zdaj podpirali ISIS, imajo pa zato veliko ljudi in tankov, Kurdi so pa potolkli ISIS (za boj proti ISIS dobijo tudi Američani moj poklon) in so njihovi handlerji iz Pentagona rahlo in a pickle, ko morajo razložiti, da ne bo novih Javelinov. Ampak glede na to, kaj in kje delajo, jim je to moralo biti že od začetka jasno in v job descriptionu jim najbrž tudi piše: Peter Piper picks the pickled peppers.
Na drugi strani pa bi ondos med Erdoganom in Putinom opisal kot tango z medvedom. Pri čemer medved tukaj, pričakovanjem nekaterih navkljub, ni Putin, ampak Erdogan z miljonsko pehoto, proti čemer so tistih par letečih kišt in par bataljonov Rusov pljunek v morje. Da bi medveda pripravil do tega, da gre kamor hočeš, moraš biti prekleto izkušen in še bolj previden in niti potem ni nujno, da večino časa ti vodiš ples, pa če se še tako delaš, da imaš situacijo ves čas pod kontrolo.
Ja, Iranci zaenkrat niso rekli še nič. Res pa je, da so že zdaj rahlo napeli in raztegnili svoje gardiste in morda niti ne morejo kaj dosti več, redne vojske si pa vsaj do sedaj niso upali pošiljati v Sirijo, tudi zaradi latentnega nezadovoljstva dela populacije doma. Izrael na drugi strani odkrito grozi, da bo skočil Asadu v hrbet, če ne prekinejo logistike polmeseca od Hezbolaha na njihovi meji do Irana.
Ena od možnosti je tudi, da smo do sedaj videli samo uvod v pravo vojno v Siriji.
Fritz ::
Zanimiv članek in še bolj zanimivi komentarji:
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin...
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Nekdo strelja klor z modificiranimi? iranskimi 107 mm raketami.
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins
There's been another chlorine attack reported in Douma, Damascus, using the same type of munition used in the January 22nd attack. @firasabdullah_ has lots of images. One of the rockets used in today's chlorine attack in Douma has the same lot number as a rocket used in the Jan 22nd chlorine attack on Douma, strongly suggesting they came from the same source. (Left Feb 1st, right Jan 22nd)
More images of the chlorine missiles used in today's attack in Douma. Identical design as those used in previous chlorine attacks in Damascus on Jan 22 2018 and Jan 2017 
More images of the chlorine filled chemical weapons used in this mornings attack on Douma, Damascus. Exactly the same design as used on the Jan 22nd attack in Douma. 
We think this is what allows the chlorine gas to escape from the rear of the warhead, but we've not quite established how it functions 100% 
Why would the gas need to escape from the rear of the warhead? Well because of situations like this, when the front ends up buried in the ground, which would otherwise slow or prevent the release of gas 
Statement from Douma Local Council on today's chlorine chemical attack in Douma, the 3rd chlorine attack there in a month. 
http://brown-moses.blogspot.com/2013/05...
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins
There's been another chlorine attack reported in Douma, Damascus, using the same type of munition used in the January 22nd attack. @firasabdullah_ has lots of images. One of the rockets used in today's chlorine attack in Douma has the same lot number as a rocket used in the Jan 22nd chlorine attack on Douma, strongly suggesting they came from the same source. (Left Feb 1st, right Jan 22nd)
http://brown-moses.blogspot.com/2013/05...
Iranian 107mm Rocket
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Mr.B ::
A ni to isto mesto, kejr privr#enci demokratiönih sil obstreljujejo civilne objekte pod kontrolo Asadovih sil ?
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Pac-Man ::
Zdajle vidim, da je "ventilček" tudi na primeru HE rakete.
Potrjeno samo, da nekdo strelja iranske rakete.
Potrjeno samo, da nekdo strelja iranske rakete.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Tarzan ::
Zakaj bi SAA modificirala rakete v slogu modelarskega krožka, če pa lahko uporabi delujoče original zapakirane rakete?
Zato, ker je to false flag, zato. :)
Zato, ker je to false flag, zato. :)
Fritz ::
Zadeve ni možno v celoti izključiti a je prav priročno, če imaš možnost istočasno obtožiti Assada in Irance.
P.S.
Raketa zgleda hudo dobro in nepoškodovano za nekaj, kar naj bi bilo izstreljeno z raketnim motorom in bi priletelo v urbano naselje. Druga zanimivost - pri zadnjih klor napadih začuda ni bilo ničesar na videih, čeprav imajo običajno vse dobro posneto in režirano. Tretja zanimivost - klor napadi v Ghouti so se začeli in se ponavljajo odkar SAA tepe islamiste v Idlibu.
Kar nekaj zanimivosti...
P.S.
Raketa zgleda hudo dobro in nepoškodovano za nekaj, kar naj bi bilo izstreljeno z raketnim motorom in bi priletelo v urbano naselje. Druga zanimivost - pri zadnjih klor napadih začuda ni bilo ničesar na videih, čeprav imajo običajno vse dobro posneto in režirano. Tretja zanimivost - klor napadi v Ghouti so se začeli in se ponavljajo odkar SAA tepe islamiste v Idlibu.
Kar nekaj zanimivosti...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Fritz ::
Tole so turški demokrati, ki 'osvobajajo' Afrin:
https://twitter.com/mustefaebdi/status/...
https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/...
https://twitter.com/mustefaebdi/status/...
https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Fritz ::
Še nekaj o famoznih iranskih raketah s klorom:
https://twitter.com/TomtheBasedCat/stat...
https://twitter.com/TomtheBasedCat/stat...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Vanich ::
Tole so turški demokrati, ki 'osvobajajo' Afrin:
https://twitter.com/mustefaebdi/status/...
https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/...
Ehh - to ni nič: nasmejano klanje in rezanje glave rahitičnemu otroku na kasonu kamiona, otroku, ki so ga 15 minut nazaj sneli z infuzije v bolnici in so rorčki za infuzijo še vedno zapičeni v njegovih žilah - you can't top that. Bolj demokratičen in zmeren si že težko.
nsa_ag3nt ::
Well, that's new for YPJ/YPG
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/28/worl...
So bili kot kaže na šolanju pri daešu/hts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/28/worl...
So bili kot kaže na šolanju pri daešu/hts.
Fritz ::
Noup..takšne stvari so počeli že partizani. Če veš, da te bodo ujeli, mučili in verjetno ubili, je bolje, da ubiješ sam sebe in še kakšnega nasprotnika potegneš za seboj. Kurdski borci nimajo samomorilskih telovnikov z eksplozivom in ne napadajo nasprotnikovih položajev z avtobombami, v katerih se sami razstrelijo. Samomor z bombo je tukaj last resort in ne modus operandi.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mr.B ::
Noup..takšne stvari so počeli že partizani. Če veš, da te bodo ujeli, mučili in verjetno ubili, je bolje, da ubiješ sam sebe in še kakšnega nasprotnika potegneš za seboj. Kurdski borci nimajo samomorilskih telovnikov z eksplozivom in ne napadajo nasprotnikovih položajev z avtobombami, v katerih se sami razstrelijo. Samomor z bombo je tukaj last resort in ne modus operandi.
Fixed
A Turkish military convoy was targeted by a car bomb attack in Syria's northern Idlib province, killing one civilian and wounding two others.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
Noup..takšne stvari so počeli že partizani. Če veš, da te bodo ujeli, mučili in verjetno ubili, je bolje, da ubiješ sam sebe in še kakšnega nasprotnika potegneš za seboj. Kurdski borci nimajo samomorilskih telovnikov z eksplozivom in ne napadajo nasprotnikovih položajev z avtobombami, v katerih se sami razstrelijo. Samomor z bombo je tukaj last resort in ne modus operandi.
Fixed
A Turkish military convoy was targeted by a car bomb attack in Syria's northern Idlib province, killing one civilian and wounding two others.
Tale napad ni potrjeno 'kurdski'. Kurdi v Turčiji so, v kasnejših fazah upora proti turškim oblastem, uporabljali samomorilske napade vendar ne v boju temveč kot način delovanja proti vojaškim, policijskim in državnim inštitucijam.
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mr.B ::
A female Kurdish suicide bomber targeted Turkish troops on Sunday in Syria's northwest region of Afrin, but caused no casualties, said the Turkish military.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
Fix, so otroci teroristov...
the Saudi-led coalition killed 68 children and wounded 36 others from July to September 2017.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
leiito ::
2 zanimivi zgodbi iz sošeščine:
1. Govorice, da so hoteli Saudovi poleti izvesti invazijo na Katar, so dobile potrditev:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/d...
Napad je baje preprečila Turčija, ki je Al-Thaniju po hitri pošti poslala par tisoč specialcev, za saudsko vojsko je pa znano, da si neradi umažejo uniforme.
Za vodjo katarskega novega, puppet režima je bil planiran nek drug Al Thani, sorodnik Emirja, ki je zdaj neprostovoljno v UAE in sporoča, da je, če se mu kaj zgodi, odgovoren MBZ, Mohamed Bin Zayed, kronski princ UAE.
2. Prince Alwaleed je tik pred izpustitvijo iz pripora dal intervju Reutersu, ki je zdaj objavljen, seveda brez ene besede kritike na račun MBS, nesporazum pač, svojo nedolžnost bo dokazal na, hm, sodišču, škoda da več kot parsekundnih posnetkov tega gotovo ne bomo videli.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-back...
Cel intervju s katarskim obrambnim ministrom
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/...
1. Govorice, da so hoteli Saudovi poleti izvesti invazijo na Katar, so dobile potrditev:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/d...
Napad je baje preprečila Turčija, ki je Al-Thaniju po hitri pošti poslala par tisoč specialcev, za saudsko vojsko je pa znano, da si neradi umažejo uniforme.
Za vodjo katarskega novega, puppet režima je bil planiran nek drug Al Thani, sorodnik Emirja, ki je zdaj neprostovoljno v UAE in sporoča, da je, če se mu kaj zgodi, odgovoren MBZ, Mohamed Bin Zayed, kronski princ UAE.
2. Prince Alwaleed je tik pred izpustitvijo iz pripora dal intervju Reutersu, ki je zdaj objavljen, seveda brez ene besede kritike na račun MBS, nesporazum pač, svojo nedolžnost bo dokazal na, hm, sodišču, škoda da več kot parsekundnih posnetkov tega gotovo ne bomo videli.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-back...
Cel intervju s katarskim obrambnim ministrom
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/...
Zgodovina sprememb…
- spremenil: leiito ()
Fritz ::
V Siriji so idlibski islamisti zrušili ruski Su-25 pri Saraqibu in ubili pilota, ki se je izstrelil iz letala in spustil s padalom. Naj bi ga zrušili s prenosnim protiletalskim sistemom Igla (NATO: SA-16).
https://twitter.com/JundiMaghrebi/statu...
Rusi so jim za pohvalo poslali nekaj raket Kaliber iz ladij pred Sirsko obalo.
Drugače pa SAA veselo napreduje proti Saraqibu, zato se tam toliko dogaja, obenem pa še čisti IS žep v SV Hami.
https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/sta...
https://twitter.com/JundiMaghrebi/statu...
Rusi so jim za pohvalo poslali nekaj raket Kaliber iz ladij pred Sirsko obalo.
Drugače pa SAA veselo napreduje proti Saraqibu, zato se tam toliko dogaja, obenem pa še čisti IS žep v SV Hami.
https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/sta...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Pac-Man ::
Vodka ti da domišljija.
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/95...
And more Russian media nonsense: Head of Russian State Duma committee on defense Shamanov thinks that it's "a provocation of U.S instructors, who teach Peshmerga(!)". Ren-TV in comment adds that Kurdish Peshmerga is actually in Iraq
Story on Stingers is by "Komsomolska Pravda" and their "experts". Say that not Igla or Strela cannot shot down Su-25. In 2014 Russian militants in Eastern Ukraine used Russia-provided Igla MANPADS to shot down several Su-25 
Potencialno zanimivo
And a few days ago the Igla was seized by group that possible could hand over the launcher to group involved in todays events. (but more likely it's another one)
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/95...
And more Russian media nonsense: Head of Russian State Duma committee on defense Shamanov thinks that it's "a provocation of U.S instructors, who teach Peshmerga(!)". Ren-TV in comment adds that Kurdish Peshmerga is actually in Iraq
Potencialno zanimivo
And a few days ago the Igla was seized by group that possible could hand over the launcher to group involved in todays events. (but more likely it's another one)
FSA Samarkand Brigade captured a MANPADS near Cinderes, Afrin from YPG
VIDEO:
https://twitter.com/lummideast/status/9...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
Pac-Man ::
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and
fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist.
7982884e ::
katastrofalna eksplozija leoparda 2a4, turska vojska je potrdila da je umrlo 6 vojakov (4 notri in 2 zunaj?)
Mr.B ::
Toliko o viru
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YPG fighters targeted the Turkish army tank in Sheikh Haruz, northeast of Afrin, killing five soldiers. Three other ....
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
Nekaj materiala, ki naj bi dokazoval, da se vojakinja YPJ ni tako poškodovala z bombo, kot so truplo kasneje iznakazili 'moderate rebels'.
https://twitter.com/azadmustafa2/status...
https://twitter.com/azadmustafa2/status...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Fritz ::
Še en zanimiv pogled na ravnanje Turčije:
http://www.atimes.com/article/turkish-w...
Drugače pa SAA veselo čisti žep IS-a v Hami/Alepu:
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/96...
http://www.atimes.com/article/turkish-w...
Drugače pa SAA veselo čisti žep IS-a v Hami/Alepu:
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/96...
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Jarno ::
In vse tiho o ameriškem udaru na Assadove sile na vzhodu države.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/worl...
Morda je udar napovedal svarilo Turčiji, če bodo eskalirali konflikt proti Kurdom.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/worl...
Morda je udar napovedal svarilo Turčiji, če bodo eskalirali konflikt proti Kurdom.
#65W!
Samuel ::
In vse tiho o ameriškem udaru na Assadove sile na vzhodu države.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/worl...
Morda je udar napovedal svarilo Turčiji, če bodo eskalirali konflikt proti Kurdom.
Če kaj linkaš, prvo vsaj to preberi.
"The American-backed coalition in Syria said Thursday that it had repelled an attack by forces supporting the Assad government, carrying out deadly strikes in a rare confrontation between competing factions that have both fought the Islamic State."
If you notice this notice, you will notice that this notice is
noticably not worth noticing.
noticably not worth noticing.
Jarno ::
Dej ne bodi tako vzvišen.
Če bi bral malce naprej, bi nalatel tudi na napisano:
SDF pa airstrikes...
Če bi bral malce naprej, bi nalatel tudi na napisano:
There were unconfirmed and conflicting reports about the number of casualties from the airstrikes.
SDF pa airstrikes...
#65W!
Mr.B ::
So jim vrnili. Poslali so vabo in SESTRELILI izraelsko letalo.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Fritz ::
Izraelci že x-tič napadejo suvereno državo, ta jim v samoobrambi sestreli letalo, nakar Izrael grozi, da bodo šele sedaj videli svoje. Mislim, očitno so pričakovali, da bo SAA z odobravanjem in pasivnostjo spremljala napade IAF na njene sile.
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/1...
Očitno tista stara ruska protiletalska šara ni čisto za v smeti. Škoda, da Sirci nimajo s-300/S-400
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/1...
Očitno tista stara ruska protiletalska šara ni čisto za v smeti. Škoda, da Sirci nimajo s-300/S-400
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
Mr.B ::
Pomojem rusi niso nic naredili....
Po drugi strani pa so turki pravi humanitarci. Civilnih zertev sploh ni.
Po drugi strani pa so turki pravi humanitarci. Civilnih zertev sploh ni.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
Mr.B ::
Kaj pravijo fake mediji...
In November 2016, Russia has repaired the Syrian S-200 to operational status, which practically means that no missile can likely be launched without prior knowledge from Moscow
But a full-frontal war is unlikely at this time, Kouch believes, as Russia is trying to maintain its alliance with Iran and Israel simultaneously.
Kako žaloastno:
Ultimately, the only losers here are the Syrian people and the Syrian revolution," said Kouch.
Hitro kontro fanjez z analizo twixicev
In November 2016, Russia has repaired the Syrian S-200 to operational status, which practically means that no missile can likely be launched without prior knowledge from Moscow
But a full-frontal war is unlikely at this time, Kouch believes, as Russia is trying to maintain its alliance with Iran and Israel simultaneously.
Kako žaloastno:
Ultimately, the only losers here are the Syrian people and the Syrian revolution," said Kouch.
Hitro kontro fanjez z analizo twixicev
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
MadMicka ::
Fritz, vse lepo in prav, ampak Sirija ni država. Pod državo se razume določen teritorij, prebivalce ter eno oblast. Sirija je razdeljena na vsaj tri dele.
Drugače pa, sestrelili so jim eno letalo, nato pa je Izrael z letali! v povračilo uničil več kot deset različnih vojaških objektov. Ne se hecat, če misliš, da lahko različne vojaške enote v Siriji naredijo karkoli (v smislu osvojitve ozemlja ali pa težkih vojaških izgub) proti Izraelu.
Drugače pa, sestrelili so jim eno letalo, nato pa je Izrael z letali! v povračilo uničil več kot deset različnih vojaških objektov. Ne se hecat, če misliš, da lahko različne vojaške enote v Siriji naredijo karkoli (v smislu osvojitve ozemlja ali pa težkih vojaških izgub) proti Izraelu.
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Mr.B ::
Fritz, vse lepo in prav, ampak Sirija ni država. Pod državo se razume določen teritorij, prebivalce ter eno oblast. Sirija je razdeljena na vsaj tri dele.
Drugače pa, sestrelili so jim eno letalo, nato pa je Izrael z letali! v povračilo uničil več kot deset različnih vojaških objektov. Ne se hecat, če misliš, da lahko različne vojaške enote v Siriji naredijo karkoli (v smislu osvojitve ozemlja ali pa težkih vojaških izgub) proti Izraelu.
Sej bi lahko napisal, da je bil odziv Izraela planiran da izzove reakcijo irana, ter tako skupaj z amerikanci parodira na Vs, da je bila odloöitev Obame napaöna etc. Ampak tega tudi ne boü bral v medijih ki jih nadzira #idovska dru#ina.
France Rejects Genocide Accusations Against Israel in Gaza,
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
To accuse the Jewish state of genocide is to cross a moral threshold
windigo ::
Erdogan je zadnje dni grozil že Grkom, Cipru in Eni (italijansko podjetje), da se bodo soočili s turško vojsko, če bodo delali proti turškim interesom in vrtali za plinom na obalnem področju S. Cipra. Za spremembo se je odzvala EU, točneje Tusk in rekel Erdoganu, naj se lepše obnaša do sosedov.
Za češnjico na torti pa bi dal turško klofuto dvema ameriškima generaloma, ki sta izjavila, da bodo ameriške vojaške sile odločno odgovorile, če bodo napadene s strani turške vojske v Siriji.
https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/9...
Gobec ima dolg. Problem bi lahko bil, če ima tudi temu ustrezen penis in pa jajca.
Za češnjico na torti pa bi dal turško klofuto dvema ameriškima generaloma, ki sta izjavila, da bodo ameriške vojaške sile odločno odgovorile, če bodo napadene s strani turške vojske v Siriji.
https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/9...
Gobec ima dolg. Problem bi lahko bil, če ima tudi temu ustrezen penis in pa jajca.
Fritz ::
Fritz, vse lepo in prav, ampak Sirija ni država.
Nazadnje, ko sem še gledal, je bila Sirija mednarodno priznana država in članica OZN. Lahko se pa tudi delamo neumne in rečemo, da Izrael ni država temveč rasistično-fundamentalistična entiteta, proti kateri lahko kdorkoli počne kar ga je volja. Je to ok?
"Težav ne moremo reševati z isto miselnostjo,
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein
kot smo jo imeli, ko smo jih ustvarili."
A. Einstein