ZDA, volitve 2016 in politična ureditev

VaeVictis> a vseeno govori tisto kar določeni del populacije hoče slišati in ta določen del populacije je kar velik in bo morda celo dovolj za izvolitev...

Jasno, ampak tisti del populacije, ki je seznanjen s tem, kaj fašizem je, bo prisiljen nasilno odreagirati nanj.

Odgovornost bo na vseh tistih, ki so iz Trumpa naredili mačistični kult osebnosti, popolnoma enako kot pri Putinu.

Scaramouche> A ima to sploh veze?

Nimaš dovolj znanja, da bi debatiral o teh rečeh.

VaeVictis> ps: Verjetno se kar nekaj teh ljudi celo zaveda tega, a si mislijo: "Mogoče pa se bo vsaj kaj spremenilo, ker Hillary je itak status quo trenutne politike in pod njo mi nikakor ne more biti boljše kot je sedaj..."

Tisti, ki si to mislijo, halucinirajo, enako kot tisti, ki halucinirajo, da jim je pod Obamo slabše, kot jim je bilo pod Bushem.

Scaramouche> Sej sem ti rekel kaj naj narediš z pravili EU!

Trdiš vse živo, pa vse narobe, tudi jezikovnih napak delaš toliko, da niti sam ne moreš razumeti pomena svojih zapisov, očitno pa tudi ne poznaš pravil EU.

Truga je 29. okt 2016 ob 07:22 izjavil:

To k so zvolil, to bojo mel. Tko dela demokracija. Ce kreteni zvoljo najslabse mozne opcije, so si krivi sami.

ne vem , če je bila to demokracija
pri Sanders Hillary je bilo vse zelo sumljivo

jype je 29. okt 2016 ob 11:54 izjavil:

Scaramouche> medtem se pa pravice staroselcev tepta.

Katero pravico, natanko?

arnecan1> V tem primeru je Trump slaba izbira, Hillary še slabša. Za mene je lahka izbira.

Ne, resnica je ravno obratna. Hillary je slaba izbira, Donald pa še slabša.

arnecan1> Tisti, ki pa v resnici nasedajo propagandi in so jim leta politične korektnosti oprale možgane in lastnega razmišljanja ter zato v Trumpu vidijo fašista, pa bodo tako ali tako volili vsakega, ki jim ga potisnejo naprej.

Trump _je_ fašist in politična korektnost nima ničesar opraviti s tem.

https://twitter.com/ScottLinnen/status/...

goog dakota pipeline protest, pa boš videl kakšna mainpulacija

7tom1ja> goog dakota pipeline protest, pa boš videl kakšna mainpulacija

Kvalitetna manipulacija je. Pravice staroselcev teptajo tisti, ki se imajo za staroselce, v resnici so pa pritepenci. Tako kot vi tule.

Scaramouche> pobegnili kot nacisti

Saj nisem v Argentini.

Scaramouche> Poberi se!

Mislim, da si zaslužiš torto. To je prvi stavek v slovenskem jeziku, ki si ga zapisal brez napak.

Če bo šlo tako naprej, boš po moje v nekaj letih lahko dobil status begunca.

Čaka na zdnje dneve, ko se verodostojnost zapisov ne bo dala preveriti. Po volitvah bo pa tako ali tako vseeno. Tale Assange je res en bogi revček. Verjetno se mu od tistih nekaj kvadratov, ki jih ima na veleposlaništvu, že malo meša.

Koordiniran in tempiran napad na Clintonovo.. Očitno ženska le nima tako dolgih prstov, ko si nekateri zblojenci domišljate, ker sicer bi vse to zadušila vsaj še za teh 10 dni. Tako pa se ji pravkar dogaja velika krivica, ker se vsa namigovanja in govorice marsikje privzeto jemljejo za resnico, preveriti pa seveda ni nič mogoče v naslednjih dneh.

Je ze rekel vec kot sedmic? Nisem stel

dice7 je 29. okt 2016 ob 18:22 izjavil:

Je ze rekel vec kot sedmic? Nisem stel

niti enkrat ni tega rekel

včeraj na CNNu o Hillary: no smoking gun found in Hillary's emails

O enakopravnosti žensk v Clinton Foundation:

Clinton Foundation Paid Women Less Than Men
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/wiki...
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/22/w...





Clinton bashes Trump over Russia praise, but emails show she praised Putin
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10...


Črnec prosim:
https://twitter.com/US_Army_Vet/status/...
Muslims Are "Peaceful & Tolerant," Have "Nothing To Do W/ Terrorism

Musk je relativno dobro povedal. Predsednik ZDA je kapitan, ki upravlja veliko ladjo z zelo majhnim krmilom. (or something along those lines)

M-Power> Tudi če Clintonova zmaga ne bo imela kaj veliko podpore :)

Ja hvala bogu, kam pa pridemo, če bi takšni čarovnici dajali podporo?

Je pa vseeno pomembno, da ne zmaga mačistični primitivizem.

Scaramouche> Glede na to da si šel stran, bi lahko prej rekli da si ti begunec ne pa jaz.

Jag skriver korrekt i m?nga spr?k.

Dvomim, da tebi uspeva v kateremkoli jeziku.

Scaramouche> Ni treba,nacistov je polno po Evropi, več v državah EU kot pri nas!

Povsod približno 10% prebivalstva oziroma približno 20% volilcev.

Včasih s svojo histerijo koga prestrašite, ampak ne dolgoročno.

Kaj ste tle eni čustveno angažirani. Pa kaj vam je?
Sovraštvo je totalno degradirajoča emocija.
In dela škodo samemu osebku.
Skulirajte se že, no. V lastno dobro.

Kasparov.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opini...

America, Your Election Is Not Rigged

For the last few weeks, the Republican nominee for president, Donald J. Trump, has been talking a lot about how the Nov. 8 election is rigged against him.

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In power for 16 years now, Mr. Putin and his global propaganda machine aggressively promote the idea that democracy is a chaotic mess that only the hero Putin can save Russia from falling into.

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After I retired from professional chess in 2005, I helped form an opposition coalition, known as Other Russia, to protest Mr. Putin’s increasingly dictatorial regime.

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Rather to my surprise, in 2007 I was the winner of the national primary to choose the coalition’s presidential candidate.

Once I had been selected in a real election that wasn’t official, it was time for me to participate in an official election that was completely fake.

In order to do this, I had to jump through the official and unofficial hoops that had been put in place to prevent unapproved candidates from making it onto a ballot. Two million signatures were needed from all over the country in just one month, a task made even more herculean by the sheer size of Russia. A nominating congress had to be held, an apparently simple chore that became impossible when no hotel would rent a suitable space to us. Even American-owned hotel chains mysteriously canceled our reservations.

While I traveled across the country to campaign, we would find venues suddenly closed for repairs, our flights canceled, our meetings shut down by the police. Nor did I quite manage to stay out of jail, spending five days in a Moscow cell for participating in an “unauthorized rally.”

Rigging an election isn’t only a matter of stuffing ballot boxes.

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The fraud that does occur on Election Day is more about showing loyalty and getting the numbers just right to keep up appearances. Busloads of official voters go from polling station to polling station in a tradition we even have a name for: a “carousel.” Sheaves of ballots are dumped into urns while polling officials stand in the way to block the view. Sometimes, the excessive zeal of apparatchiks produces returns of more than 100 percent, as happens regularly in Russian regions like Chechnya.

To this day, I do not like the title “former Russian presidential candidate” because I knew at the start that my name would never appear on a ballot.

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The only candidates allowed to run in the presidential election against Mr. Putin’s handpicked successor, the former prime minister Dmitri A. Medvedev, were the same token Communist and the same token nationalist who had been running in every election since the collapse of the Soviet Union. (...) Four years later, Mr. Medvedev again switched desks with Mr. Putin, who hadn’t left power for a second regardless of his official title of prime minister. President Obama called Mr. Putin to congratulate him on his election victory, once again, as president.

This is the modern dictatorship, savvy at using the free world’s terms and technology for its own ends. And when fake elections at home aren’t enough, an aggressive campaign of intimidation and disinformation abroad can be very useful.

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A democracy is as strong as its people believe it to be. It cannot be destroyed from the outside, only from within.

Ekstremen nivo drame s strani nekaterih je kinda pathetic.

Fantastičen pogovor glede teme današnjice

pa so zelo nepristranski

oo7 je 29. okt 2016 ob 17:38 izjavil:

Julian Assange; "Next leak will lead to arrest of Hillary Clinton" 7/27/16

še enkrat assange ni nikoli tega rekel

To se bo zgodilo, ko se bodo supersile nehale enkrat vtikat v ranljive države.

Saj v tem je point...Trump je populist, nacionalist, rasist in maskilist, poleg tega pa še narcisističen sociopat za katerega ne vemo kako bi vladal. Ima vse osnove fašističnega voditelja, ki bo povzročil veliko sranja doma in/ali v tujini, lahko bi bil pa samo avtoritaren izolacionističen voditelj...tega ne vemo.

Clintonova podpira neoliberalno agendo (z določenimi izjemami), ta pa zagotovo vodi v korporativni fašizem.

Zdi se mi malce deplasirano delati razliko med dvema fašistoma, lahko pa se še naprej do obisti kregate, kateri kandidat je bolj fašističen.

Zame je Clintonova moderen korporativni fašist, Trumpovo obnašanje pa kaže, da bi z veliko verjetnostjo tak bil, če bi imel več moči kot jo ima sedaj, kot beli ameriški milijarder. Sicer ga krasi zelo odbijajoča osebnost a za kapital je na koncu vse posel, kar je tudi Trumpu zelo domače.

The Economic Thought of the Roman Catholic Church

Fascism appeals to the Roman Catholic Church because it is the perfect vehicle through which to gain global control.
Popular 20th-century journalist Pierre van Paassen wrote this about Catholicism's nature:
For today Rome considers the Fascist regime the nearest to its dogmas and interest. We have not merely the Reverend (Jesuit) Father Coughlin praising Mussolini's Italy as "a Christian Democracy," but Civilita Cattolica, house organ of the Jesuits, says quite frankly "Fascism is the regime that corresponds most closely to the concepts of the Church of Rome."

Fascism Today

In a video discussing the 2011 Annual Meeting of the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman of the World Economic Forum, says this:
We are living in a completely new reality. So we want to know, what is this reality? What is different now after the [world economic] crisis from before the crisis? Because our assumption is that this crisis was a structural one. Many things have changed and we should not go back to the old recipes.

We [the World Economic Forum] want to make a strong contribution to the G20 process. We are working together with the French Presidency. The G20 has become a major element of the global governments.

Business has to be integrated into this process because the problems which we face cannot be solved by governments alone. They need public-private partnerships. They need the support of the business community and of civil society (emphasis added).ix

If the combination of big business and big government makes fascism, then fascism is indeed happening today. Just like the feudal lords in the Middle Ages, today's big industry is working with the government to suppress the common workers and control their movements. People believe they are free, but they are not. Today's serfs--the working class--have no option but to make the rich richer.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/R-Pope_ec...



Predvidevam, da je simbolika škrlatne in rdeče barve zgolj naključna

False equivalency, ja. Še en lep primer. Oba sta kao fašista. Tako kot sta oba enaka lažnivca, oba enako inteligentna, nevarna, pokvarjena in moralno bankrotirana. In tako kot so podporniki na obeh straneh enako sovražno nastrojeni. Tako sta tudi CNN in Fox enako biased in nekredibilna. Demokrati in republikanci le dve strani istega kovanca.. Itd.

Nice going, people.

DarwiN je 30. okt 2016 ob 21:28 izjavil:

False equivalency, ja. Še en lep primer. Oba sta kao fašista. Tako kot sta oba enaka lažnivca, oba enako inteligentna, nevarna, pokvarjena in moralno bankrotirana. In tako kot so podporniki na obeh straneh enako sovražno nastrojeni. Tako sta tudi CNN in Fox enako biased in nekredibilna. Demokrati in republikanci le dve strani istega kovanca.. Itd.

Nice going, people.

Ne. Nobeden od njiju ni fašist.

In ja. Trump je malenkost bolj inteligenten. In predvsem manj pokvarjen.

Ja. Neokonzervativci ter t.i. "tretja pot" levičarji tipa socialdemokratov in demokratov tipa Clinton, Obama, Blair (ter naša malenkost Pahor, ki pa je le bledi posnemovalec, saj je Slovenija premali igralec) so le druga plat istega kovanca. Vsi podpirajo finančni kapitalizem, oz. neoliberalizem, globalizem, vojaško posredovanje v imenu demokracije in človekovih pravic, politično korektnost, so wannabe zaščitniki istospolnih, manjšin, feminizma... Seveda gre dajanje pravic finančnim elitam in drugim skupinam na rovaš tistemu srednjemu razredu, delavskemu razredu. Medtem ko imajo bogatejši več denarja, tisti na obrobju več pravic, ima tiha večina manj denarja in manj pravic ter več skrbi, kako preživeti in došolati otroke. Zato pa je potrebno udariti po posiljevalcu, rasistu, fašist, zavezniku Putina, ksenofobu... Trumpu. In to danes delajo tako neokonzervativci kakor Clintonovi demokrati. Ter razni SJW in ljudje, ki so jim mediji in strah za preživetje zameglili realni pogled na svet.

New Democrats @ Wikipedia
Third Way @ Wikipedia

Ne bom lepil linkov, ampak vsakdo si na spletu lahko pogleda zvezo med neokonzervativci ter "new democrats", oz. Clintonovimi demokrati. Ter zakaj so vsi našli skupnega sovražnika. V Trumpu. Ker na koncu dneva, obojni imajo preskrbljeno lepo življenje, ker podpirajo finančne elite.