Kateri telefon?

Kodrnusa je 27. okt 2024 ob 08:38 izjavil:

matobeli je 26. okt 2024 ob 20:40 izjavil:

OnePlus 12, december 2023, S23 februar 2023. Kdaj točno je bil v EU je vseeno, ker itak naročiš iz kitajske.

Kaj točno je narobe z xiaomi sistemom je jasno bolj kot ne samo tebi in definitivno paše pod osebne perference.

Sicer pa, samo smartphone je. Majhen ekran, slabi zvočniki, fotkič na nivoju trotlcev, za na hit pogledat novice čist solidno pa klicat tudi gre, froca tudi slikaš ko dela traparije... NFC je fina zadeva, ne rabiš met enega majhnega neobčutljivega kosa plastike sabo ampak enega velikega na vse.

Pol pa pade na tla 1x in je samo še smet. Sploh oled ekrani ki v celoti crknejo, lcd si vsaj še videl kaj je gor.

Kaj tebi ni jasno? Pa malo lepše se izražaj, pišeš kot da nimaš osnovne šole končane...

Nemu marsikaj ni jasno. Razen ritolizništva.
Največji žvižgač foruma, poleg ganona in štaina, ki imajo največ komentarjev v temi pritožbe in opozori moderatorja: špeckahle, špiceljni, ovaduhi, špijuni, vohljači, udbovci, izdajalci...
To je največji poden od človeka, kar more obstajat.
Samo ker so zaščiteni zaradi ritolizništva jim nič ne moreš in lahko počno po forumu kar se jim dvigne!

Rootaš, flešaš ;))) to smo počeli 10 let nazaj. Danes je to totalni nesmisel.

Kodrnusa je 26. okt 2024 ob 08:58 izjavil:

Imam oneplus 12. Raketa od telefona, kamera vrhunska, baterija enako. Da kdo razmišlja da bi kupil samsunga 2 leti starega za 550EUR, mora biti malo za časom..
Oneplus 12 dobis 512gb verzijo za 633EUR iz gshopperja. Ni variante da sploh pomisli na te outdatane samsunge...

O+ 12 ima curved display...

gshopper Kitajci? prodaja kitajsko verzijo (colorOS) in flasha vsak telefon posebej na oxygenOS

Btw, tu piše cena 799 usd
https://www.gshopper.com/oneplus-12-glo...

This phone is a Chinese version. We will open the phone box and flash the software, perform a software refresh of OxygenOS before shipping,region lock is removed.



geizhals.eu najde podobno cene (in verjetno ponujajo global verzije)
amazon.de 852E za 16/512 verzijo https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CPYK2K1J?tag...


Btw, eden od komentarjev iz GSMArena https://gsmarena.com/reviewcomm-2659.php

The display's abysmally low brightness (for being a flagship category phone) is a huge con. Arguably a far greater sin than the IP65 rating, most people splash water on their phones or spill water on it more than they drown that thing. Besides, the IP rating is for clean water, not salt water, swimming pools or even contaminated drainage water, so it won't help much in those situations. What would've helped tho is a brighter display, seriously Oneplus? Dolby Vision and LTPO4 are THAT important to you? Who cares about that when the phone can't reach at least 1300 nits in 2024. I'm not saying it's dim but it should've been much better for what they promised and additionally, Realme and Vivo have so much better displays, those make this phone look cheap in comparison, especially the Iqoo 12 which is a tier below the Oneplus in pricing but reaches 1400 nits. The jump from 1200 to 1400 nits is more noticeable than the jump from FHD+ to QHD+ on this tiny ahh screen.

The speakers are worse than the Vivo X100 Pro and quite boomy overall. Worse than even Realme's GT5 Pro, it seems only Vivo has been able to craft really good speakers in the BBK, I think bass is cool and I love it but proper dynamics/less pumping and a good midrange/treble are more important since those are more audible.

The battery is a hit and a miss sort of, the gaming performance is subpar but the web browsing and video playback are close to class leading, I wonder what Oneplus and Oppo do that Vivo, Samsung, etc. don't that makes the gaming battery life so much worse? If the gaming time went up to 8 hours this'd be an extremely well rounded battery phone, charging superbly fast and still having loads of SOT.

The performance is my final ick, even if I were to believe that the performance is going to be better for the CPU (which im pretty sure will be true), the thermals aren't promising. The main culprit seems to be the SD 8 Gen 3 which is just as bad as the 8 Gen 1 for gpu at least, it's horrible for thermals. As days go by, I have more and more respect for Vivo's optmisation and cooling, I thought it was the case for the X90 series (after seeing golden reviewers reviews) and the phones this year just confirmed it, Vivo is BBK's king of cooling and squeezing out performance for the same heat. The IQOO 12 and the X100 Pro are better than the ROG Phone 8 in terms of passive cooling. Now either that's a great achievement or it shows Asus's downfall in quality. For how much flak the Dimensity 9300 got (admittedly I too was skeptical) the chip just seems more and more awesome as days go by. Apart from the ISP, I don't think at all that the chipset is a "cheaper" one than Qualcomm's one. Sustained performance matters more than peak and both are quite close between the SD 8 Gen 3 and the D 9300. I think there should be more tiers for the performance mode, as it stands the phones are good at dissipating heat in the current performance modes and a higher tier mode would be appreciated to squeeze out more performance at the cost of thermals. Of course, the current tier should be kept as well for people who don't want the best performance but also not the worst. So basically, I think the performance is more of a current gen Qualcomm problem than Oneplus's so I can let this slide.

The saving grace for this phone are the cameras, but only for photography and even then it's all due to Oppo lmao, the processing is superb. The S24 doesn't stand a chance against this now, better sensors across the board with supremely good processing now. The fact that GSM has to compare this phone's cameras to the X100 Pro and the Find X7 Ultra to show its weaknesses is a huge compliment actually, the X100 Pro's huge sensor is just too good, if OP 12's aperture were f/1.4 maybe it could've been closer. Additionally the Find X7 Ultra is just too good for a phone, huge-ish sensor (for a telephoto at least) and 6x native zoom combined with the banger processing is a recipe for success. The 6x photos are good at night and day, nothing crazy but good photos that are usable. UW cam is good now as well. Good job Oneplus and Oppo.

Basically, think this phone's main shortcomings are the display, videography and the speakers for now. Videography ain't bad but it's not amazing, it's good tho at least and I'm content with that. The display is NOT as good as the competitors even from BBK themselves, QHD+ sounds cool on paper but 1400 nits look better irl, especially in very sunny conditions. The speakers should've been more clearer, better treble was necessary instead of more bass and for the loudness it provides, the dynamics are poor, everything sounds pump-ey or compressed and that's made worse by the fact that only Oneplus has this quality, Realme and Vivo provide far better sound quality, Vivo provides clarity and Realme provides the similar bass-ey sound but with better dynamics. A shame but it isn't THAT bad. The cameras are great, the battery is only adequate for gamers and great for everyone else, charging is superb, design is cool due to awesome colors. The pricing should've been a bit cheaper though, 50-100 euros cheaper would've made this far more compelling, considering the huge display shortcomings, the Xiaomi 13T pro had a similar brightness to the display too and that's a compelling argument but Vivo's IQOO 12 and the Realme GT5 Pro having so much higher brightness just makes this phone feel less desirable. I hope this is a software thing and it gets better later with an update fix or something but as it stands I think this phone is 7.5/10, a good phone that's close to being very good but not quite. The better display from IQOO or even Realme would've comfortably made this an 9/10 and better speakers would've made this an absolutely perfect 10/10 phone, even for it's relatively high price. Unfortunately life sucks and this phone isn't that great, would've upgraded from my S22U to this phone if it had a better display but as it stands I'm gonna be downgrading from 1280 nits to 1160 nits. Not a great deal due to that, cameras are better though in photography, videography may be better on the S22 U not sure, its grain makes me stay away from taking videos anyways lmao
https://geizhals.eu/oneplus-12-v151858....

Itak, da ni smiselno kupovati 7 let star telefon.
Drugače do koliko EUR se gleda.

Smrkc je 28. okt 2024 ob 13:34 izjavil:

A lahko kdo priporoči telefon za nezahtevnega uporabnika z majhnim zaslonom. Zahteve so diagonala zaslona do 5.5", viber in kakšna grafično nezahtevna igirica?

Ali je 7 let star telefon smiselno kupovati, npr. Xiaomi Mi A1. Telefon mora zagotavljat približno tekočo izkušnjo - že nekaj let ne spremljam več strojnih zahtev, ampak najbrž 2GB spomina za današnje operacijske sisteme ne bo dovolj? Hvala za kakšno priporočilo.

Sem nedolgo nazaj kupoval majhen in poceni telefon za hčerko in obupal. Razen iPhonov ni ponudbe. Mogoče najdeš kako staro reč, ampak tam pol nimaš posodobitev OS-a, aplikacije ne delajo,...

Tako da sem kupil nekega Realmeja za 200. Razen, da zgleda ful hecno v njenih rokicah, je čisto ok.

(Tule poišči "Malcolm" in beri par objav: link s-t)

Smrkc je 28. okt 2024 ob 13:34 izjavil:

A lahko kdo priporoči telefon za nezahtevnega uporabnika z majhnim zaslonom. Zahteve so diagonala zaslona do 5.5", viber in kakšna grafično nezahtevna igirica?

Ali je 7 let star telefon smiselno kupovati, npr. Xiaomi Mi A1. Telefon mora zagotavljat približno tekočo izkušnjo - že nekaj let ne spremljam več strojnih zahtev, ampak najbrž 2GB spomina za današnje operacijske sisteme ne bo dovolj? Hvala za kakšno priporočilo.

Zelo zadovoljen z SE2020 jabukom, sem nezahteven uporabnik. Po menjavi baterije (nova stane tam 8eur), mi zdrži 2 dni uporabe, prfekten za uporabo z eno roko.
Skratka priporočam!

sbawe64 je 28. okt 2024 ob 11:06 izjavil:

Kodrnusa je 26. okt 2024 ob 08:58 izjavil:

Imam oneplus 12. Raketa od telefona, kamera vrhunska, baterija enako. Da kdo razmišlja da bi kupil samsunga 2 leti starega za 550EUR, mora biti malo za časom..
Oneplus 12 dobis 512gb verzijo za 633EUR iz gshopperja. Ni variante da sploh pomisli na te outdatane samsunge...

O+ 12 ima curved display...

gshopper Kitajci? prodaja kitajsko verzijo (colorOS) in flasha vsak telefon posebej na oxygenOS

Btw, tu piše cena 799 usd
https://www.gshopper.com/oneplus-12-glo...

This phone is a Chinese version. We will open the phone box and flash the software, perform a software refresh of OxygenOS before shipping,region lock is removed.



geizhals.eu najde podobno cene (in verjetno ponujajo global verzije)
amazon.de 852E za 16/512 verzijo https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CPYK2K1J?tag...


Btw, eden od komentarjev iz GSMArena https://gsmarena.com/reviewcomm-2659.php

The display's abysmally low brightness (for being a flagship category phone) is a huge con. Arguably a far greater sin than the IP65 rating, most people splash water on their phones or spill water on it more than they drown that thing. Besides, the IP rating is for clean water, not salt water, swimming pools or even contaminated drainage water, so it won't help much in those situations. What would've helped tho is a brighter display, seriously Oneplus? Dolby Vision and LTPO4 are THAT important to you? Who cares about that when the phone can't reach at least 1300 nits in 2024. I'm not saying it's dim but it should've been much better for what they promised and additionally, Realme and Vivo have so much better displays, those make this phone look cheap in comparison, especially the Iqoo 12 which is a tier below the Oneplus in pricing but reaches 1400 nits. The jump from 1200 to 1400 nits is more noticeable than the jump from FHD+ to QHD+ on this tiny ahh screen.

The speakers are worse than the Vivo X100 Pro and quite boomy overall. Worse than even Realme's GT5 Pro, it seems only Vivo has been able to craft really good speakers in the BBK, I think bass is cool and I love it but proper dynamics/less pumping and a good midrange/treble are more important since those are more audible.

The battery is a hit and a miss sort of, the gaming performance is subpar but the web browsing and video playback are close to class leading, I wonder what Oneplus and Oppo do that Vivo, Samsung, etc. don't that makes the gaming battery life so much worse? If the gaming time went up to 8 hours this'd be an extremely well rounded battery phone, charging superbly fast and still having loads of SOT.

The performance is my final ick, even if I were to believe that the performance is going to be better for the CPU (which im pretty sure will be true), the thermals aren't promising. The main culprit seems to be the SD 8 Gen 3 which is just as bad as the 8 Gen 1 for gpu at least, it's horrible for thermals. As days go by, I have more and more respect for Vivo's optmisation and cooling, I thought it was the case for the X90 series (after seeing golden reviewers reviews) and the phones this year just confirmed it, Vivo is BBK's king of cooling and squeezing out performance for the same heat. The IQOO 12 and the X100 Pro are better than the ROG Phone 8 in terms of passive cooling. Now either that's a great achievement or it shows Asus's downfall in quality. For how much flak the Dimensity 9300 got (admittedly I too was skeptical) the chip just seems more and more awesome as days go by. Apart from the ISP, I don't think at all that the chipset is a "cheaper" one than Qualcomm's one. Sustained performance matters more than peak and both are quite close between the SD 8 Gen 3 and the D 9300. I think there should be more tiers for the performance mode, as it stands the phones are good at dissipating heat in the current performance modes and a higher tier mode would be appreciated to squeeze out more performance at the cost of thermals. Of course, the current tier should be kept as well for people who don't want the best performance but also not the worst. So basically, I think the performance is more of a current gen Qualcomm problem than Oneplus's so I can let this slide.

The saving grace for this phone are the cameras, but only for photography and even then it's all due to Oppo lmao, the processing is superb. The S24 doesn't stand a chance against this now, better sensors across the board with supremely good processing now. The fact that GSM has to compare this phone's cameras to the X100 Pro and the Find X7 Ultra to show its weaknesses is a huge compliment actually, the X100 Pro's huge sensor is just too good, if OP 12's aperture were f/1.4 maybe it could've been closer. Additionally the Find X7 Ultra is just too good for a phone, huge-ish sensor (for a telephoto at least) and 6x native zoom combined with the banger processing is a recipe for success. The 6x photos are good at night and day, nothing crazy but good photos that are usable. UW cam is good now as well. Good job Oneplus and Oppo.

Basically, think this phone's main shortcomings are the display, videography and the speakers for now. Videography ain't bad but it's not amazing, it's good tho at least and I'm content with that. The display is NOT as good as the competitors even from BBK themselves, QHD+ sounds cool on paper but 1400 nits look better irl, especially in very sunny conditions. The speakers should've been more clearer, better treble was necessary instead of more bass and for the loudness it provides, the dynamics are poor, everything sounds pump-ey or compressed and that's made worse by the fact that only Oneplus has this quality, Realme and Vivo provide far better sound quality, Vivo provides clarity and Realme provides the similar bass-ey sound but with better dynamics. A shame but it isn't THAT bad. The cameras are great, the battery is only adequate for gamers and great for everyone else, charging is superb, design is cool due to awesome colors. The pricing should've been a bit cheaper though, 50-100 euros cheaper would've made this far more compelling, considering the huge display shortcomings, the Xiaomi 13T pro had a similar brightness to the display too and that's a compelling argument but Vivo's IQOO 12 and the Realme GT5 Pro having so much higher brightness just makes this phone feel less desirable. I hope this is a software thing and it gets better later with an update fix or something but as it stands I think this phone is 7.5/10, a good phone that's close to being very good but not quite. The better display from IQOO or even Realme would've comfortably made this an 9/10 and better speakers would've made this an absolutely perfect 10/10 phone, even for it's relatively high price. Unfortunately life sucks and this phone isn't that great, would've upgraded from my S22U to this phone if it had a better display but as it stands I'm gonna be downgrading from 1280 nits to 1160 nits. Not a great deal due to that, cameras are better though in photography, videography may be better on the S22 U not sure, its grain makes me stay away from taking videos anyways lmao
https://geizhals.eu/oneplus-12-v151858....

Ti lahko tukaj limaš kar želiš. Jaz ga imam ze od marca. Cena za 256gb je bila na gshopper 616€. Telefon je bomba. Ekran je svetel, ne vem kaj un piše, ampak moj je normalen, zvocniki velik upgrade od vsega kar sem imel, kamera res top notch..
Telefon je prišel originalno zapakiran z Oxygen OS systemom in ne colour OS. Zgleda iz tovarne ze pošiljajo za global market z Oxygen OS. Edino kar nima je esim, ostalo je vse enako. Pa dokupil sem eu hitri polnilec za 26€, ceprav dobis adapter za kitajski polnilec zraven in deluje normalno. Pac telefon je za to ceno bestbuy. Ima pa vsak svoje preference in svoje zelje.
Tukaj se ze prodaja nov oneplus 13, ki je upgrade, vsaj kolikor pisejo
https://www.kajkupiti.si/zanimivo/onepl...

Potem tudi kitajska 13 verjetno nima esim? Zame dealbreaker. Če vsaj malo potuješ je esim kar must...

Verjetno nekaj v rangu poco x6/ x6 pro oz. redmi note 13 pro

A izimobil sploh podpira 5G?
Navadni note 13 ima gorila glass 3, napram pro-ju ki ima 5, bolje se stegnit po pro-ju torej kar se razbijanja tiče.

S23ultra moram počasi menjati, s telefonom ni nič narobe, mi pa hodi premalo prostora.

Kateri telefon v izvedbi 1TB (eventuelno tudi 512GB) če je prevelika razlika v ceni bo delal boljše slike kot s23 ultra ?

Kaj pa S24 FE model?

To pa delajo samo reklame. Sej drugo na tv ne vidiš kot Samsung in Iphone. Večina folka sploh ne ve da obstajajo še druge znamke telefonov.

če ne potuješ je čist ok. Za potovanja je pa neuporaben ker nima esim.

PunkDude je 26. nov 2024 ob 11:30:23 izjavil:

OnePlus 12 je kamera zanič, če niso odlični pogoji, še posebaj ko je temno so slike zanič.

Pri meni so v redu. Slike nasploh so res odlicne

NajiM je 26. nov 2024 ob 11:29:54 izjavil:

če ne potuješ je čist ok. Za potovanja je pa neuporaben ker nima esim.

Kako neuporaben? A zaradi esima je telefon neuporaben haha.. Vsako leto potujemo po svetu, na letaliscu kupiš kartico in uporabljas. Lahko pa tudi vstavis esim kartico ki potem deluje enako kot vgrajeni esim...

NajiM je 26. nov 2024 ob 11:33:47 izjavil:

NajiM je 26. nov 2024 ob 11:29:54 izjavil:

če ne potuješ je čist ok. Za potovanja je pa neuporaben ker nima esim.

ups, zdej je celo tak da sicer dajo GooglePlay gor samo se ne more updejtat. Neuporabno torej...

Dej Kodrnusa, ti si prototip fanboya... Ja, telefoni brez esim so neuporabni. Da se moraš na letališčih zajebavat in iskat, kupovat. Ti kar. Jaz si preds odhodom vse preko neta zrihtam.

Se en ki ni tableta vzel vidim. Nisem fanboy ampak oneplus je price/performance trenutno blizu vrha ce ne celo na njemu. Razumem ce si vsakih 14 dni izven evrope, potem kupiš telefon z esimom, je veliko ponudbe in bos našel nekaj zase. Če pa greš 2x na leto izven evrope, je pa 5.minut za nakup kartice na letaliscu preprosta zadeva.

NajiM je 26. nov 2024 ob 12:35:45 izjavil:

Ti je že en gor rekel, hvališ tale oneplus do onemoglosti, pljuvaš pa Samsung in ostalo, hkrati pa praviš da že oneplus ti in družina že 8 let ekskluzivno furate. Fanboy in pika. Meni dol visi za znamko telefona in sam povem kaj me kje moti. Sem hotel zdajle Oneplus 13 probat pa me je tale esim zadeva zmotila.

Se zadnji post na tvojega. Nisem fanboy in nikoli ne bom. Vcasih sem imel samsunge se galaxy s1 in s2 pa se kakega, katere smo flesali, rootali, optimizirali... Tudi sedaj skrbim za vso sirso druzino in prijatelje, da imajo poceni pa ok telefone za njihovo uporabo. Večinoma so to xiaomiji, nekateri samsunge... Tako da se enkrat nisem fanboy, ampak razmišljam s svojo glavo...
Onepluse imam ker so poceni, z odlicnim OS-om in delujejo se po 6 letih normalno. Otroci imajo oneplus 6 in 7, delujejo vse igrice, notri se prva baterija..., zena ima oneplus 9 pro, caka da bo oneplus 13 v evropi uradno, ker zeli esim (evropski in us model imata esim). Razumem potrebo po esimu, ampak meni esim ni vreden 300€ vec (pri oneplusu), imajo pa cenejsi samsungi esim, vendar potem dobis spabso baterijo, ekran, pocasno polnjenje, slabso kamero, slabsi (bloatan) OS...
Vsak se sam odloci kaj bi imel, na forumu ljudje zbirajo predloge, ne bomo pa vsi imeli enakega mnenja, zato zadihaj in se umiri...
Kar je tebi idealno je nekomu katastrofa. Pac potrebe in zelje so subjektivne...

Jaz imam možnost za esim na OnePlus 12. Menjam za dobro kamero

Cakat na oneplus 13 za tistih 750 ali vzeti kot novega S24 ultra na bolhi za 850 zdaj?

Neki pravijo da bo loh do tri mesece za cakat na oneplus. Snapdragon elite ma baje ful dobro porabo baterije zato me mika. Kaj pa primerjava fotica?