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Najboljši routi na optiki

DejaVu :: 28. jun 2013, 15:53

Kateri operater optičnih storitev v SLO ima najboljše route po Evropi? Imam možnost naročila SiOL (že imam), T-2 in Amis. Izbral bi tistega, ki ima najboljše route, torej posledično najnižje povprečne latence do držav kot so Nemčija, Nizozemska, VB, itd... To mi je bolj pomembno kot pa tistih nekaj mb/s hitrosti gor/dol.

Btw, vem da je pred leti imel SiOL na dinamičnih IPjih, dodeljenih iz ranga 109.x.x.x za nekje 10ms boljše routinge do UK kot na statičnih IPjih. Tako sem na dinamičnem IPju ranga 109. imel zgolj dobrih 30ms pinga do serverjev v UK, kar je res zavidljivo dober rezultat.

flbroker :: 28. jun 2013, 16:39

Vprašaj Arnes.

Bakunin :: 28. jun 2013, 16:42

google: looking glass

http://ris.ripe.net/

ABX :: 28. jun 2013, 17:24

Siol, brez dvoma.

Vaša inštalacija je uspešno spodletela!

DejaVu :: 28. jun 2013, 20:49

Glede na to:

http://www.cogentco.com/en/network/look...

ima T-2 za skoraj 10ms boljše pinge...

še amis poseka siol za cca 5ms...

preverjal z: www.siol.net in www.t-2.net

Zgodovina sprememb…

spremenil: DejaVu (28. jun 2013 ob 20:50)

DejaVu :: 10. jul 2013, 15:52

Ok preverjeno. Zdaj imam optiko Siol in T-2. Do UK ima T-2 skoraj 10ms nižje latence. Če koga zanima še kakšna primerjava, naj vpraša, ker bom kmalu Siol odjavil.

Druga zanimivost je ta, da mi speedtest.net pravi, da imam kar 44mbps uploada (linija 20/20 T-2). NDT arnes pove da imam rahlo nad 20mbps uploada. Rad bi še preveril na kakšnem hitrem FTP strežniku kaj je dejansko res...

techfreak :) :: 10. jul 2013, 17:31

speedtest.net občasno laže, tako da se ne zanašaj na njega. Arnesov je načeloma veliko bolj natančen, za kakšen dejanski test pa lahko preneseš npr. Ubuntu ISO ali kaj podobnega preko torrenta in boš videl kakšna je hitrost.

ABX :: 10. jul 2013, 18:04

DejaVu je 10. jul 2013 ob 15:52 izjavil:

Ok preverjeno. Zdaj imam optiko Siol in T-2. Do UK ima T-2 skoraj 10ms nižje latence. Če koga zanima še kakšna primerjava, naj vpraša, ker bom kmalu Siol odjavil.

Druga zanimivost je ta, da mi speedtest.net pravi, da imam kar 44mbps uploada (linija 20/20 T-2). NDT arnes pove da imam rahlo nad 20mbps uploada. Rad bi še preveril na kakšnem hitrem FTP strežniku kaj je dejansko res...

Naredi tracert do različnih lokacji v tujin in preveri če gre T-2 čez telia.net.

Vaša inštalacija je uspešno spodletela!

levaky :: 10. jul 2013, 18:39

traceroute to www.google.com (173.194.113.147), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 89-212-0-1.gw.t-2.net (89.212.0.1) 1.064 ms 1.191 ms 1.381 ms
2 84-255-210-177.core.t-2.net (84.255.210.177) 0.680 ms 0.630 ms 0.534 ms
3 84-255-250-5.core.t-2.net (84.255.250.5) 1.273 ms 1.270 ms 1.220 ms
4 84-255-250-26.core.t-2.net (84.255.250.26) 3.165 ms 3.150 ms 3.125 ms
5 win-b4-link.telia.net (213.248.79.229) 6.328 ms 6.554 ms 6.311 ms
6 win-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.133.76) 6.978 ms win-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.132.128) 6.991 ms prag-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.137.220) 12.563 ms
7 ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.131.216) 106.540 ms ffm-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.137.100) 19.657 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.136.134) 30.831 ms
8 ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.254.93) 25.151 ms ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.249.107) 25.166 ms ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.254.249) 30.669 ms
9 google-ic-127674-ffm-b7.c.telia.net (213.248.89.38) 28.207 ms 22.507 ms 22.506 ms
10 72.14.238.44 (72.14.238.44) 25.296 ms 72.14.238.46 (72.14.238.46) 26.353 ms 72.14.238.44 (72.14.238.44) 25.368 ms
11 209.85.251.180 (209.85.251.180) 26.646 ms 209.85.251.248 (209.85.251.248) 25.969 ms 26.220 ms
12 209.85.240.223 (209.85.240.223) 35.122 ms 29.485 ms 35.207 ms
13 72.14.233.166 (72.14.233.166) 74.136 ms 71.732 ms 71.752 ms
14 72.14.235.215 (72.14.235.215) 29.299 ms 34.384 ms 34.349 ms
15 ham02s11-in-f19.1e100.net (173.194.113.147) 34.397 ms 34.315 ms 34.968 ms

DejaVu :: 10. jul 2013, 20:21

Linija T-2 je tudi dokaj stabilna (ob 20:00 uri zvečer):

Pinging www.gamingdeluxe.co.uk [188.65.112.252] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 188.65.112.252:
Packets: Sent = 59, Received = 59, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 35ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 35ms

Medtem ko pri Siolu ob isti uri:

Pinging www.gamingdeluxe.co.uk [188.65.112.252] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=50
Reply from 188.65.112.252: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 188.65.112.252:
Packets: Sent = 31, Received = 31, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 47ms, Maximum = 51ms, Average = 48ms

Višji ping in večja nihanja.

T-2 trace:

Tracing route to www.gamingdeluxe.co.uk [188.65.112.252]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  93-103-0-1.gw.t-2.net [93.103.0.1]
  2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  84-255-209-249.core.t-2.net [84.255.209.249]
  3     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  win-b4-link.telia.net [213.248.79.229]
  4    32 ms    31 ms    31 ms  level-ic-1573273-wien-b4.c.telia.net [80.239.128.178]
  5    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae-12-12.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.153.146]
  6    33 ms    33 ms    35 ms  ae-93-93.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.14]
  7    34 ms    34 ms    34 ms  ae-91-91.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.13]
  8    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae-46-46.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.143.138]
  9    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae-82-82.csw3.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.161.102]
 10    35 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae-81-81.ebr1.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.161.85]
 11    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae-46-46.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.105]
 12    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae-59-114.csw1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.153.126]
 13    33 ms    33 ms    33 ms  ae-115-3501.edge3.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166.130]
 14    34 ms    34 ms    34 ms  UK-WEBHOSTI.edge3.London1.Level3.net [195.50.124.194]
 15    34 ms    34 ms    34 ms  ge-1-377.captain.core.misp.co.uk [91.198.165.5]
 16    35 ms    40 ms    35 ms  flint.footholds.net [188.65.112.252]

Trace complete.

Siol trace:

Tracing route to www.gamingdeluxe.co.uk [188.65.112.252]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 3 ms gateway.home [192.168.1.1]
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms BSN-access.dsl.siol.net [213.250.19.90]
3 5 ms 3 ms 3 ms 95.176.253.5
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms bpt-b4-link.telia.net [213.248.90.185]
5 38 ms 19 ms 19 ms win-bb2-link.telia.net [213.155.135.220]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms level-ic-1573273-wien-b4.c.telia.net [80.239.128.178]
8 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae-12-12.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.153.146]
9 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae-93-93.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.14]
10 49 ms 48 ms 48 ms ae-91-91.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.13]
11 48 ms 48 ms 48 ms ae-46-46.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.143.138]
12 48 ms 48 ms 48 ms ae-82-82.csw3.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.161.102]
13 49 ms 49 ms 48 ms ae-81-81.ebr1.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.161.85]
14 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae-46-46.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.105]
15 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae-59-114.csw1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.153.126]
16 48 ms 48 ms 48 ms ae-115-3501.edge3.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166.130]
17 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms UK-WEBHOSTI.edge3.London1.Level3.net [195.50.124.194]
18 48 ms 48 ms 48 ms switch-001.mh2.misp.co.uk [91.198.165.5]
19 48 ms 47 ms 48 ms flint.footholds.net [188.65.112.252]

Trace complete.

Drugače pa ja, tudi hardware (ta Milan optični pretvornik) od T-2 zgleda bistveno bolj profesionalno kot tisto plastično sranje od Siola. Do vstopne točke pri T-2 imam < 1ms pinga, kar je res fenomenalno. Poleg tega imam kar tri externe IPje - enga statičnega in dva dinamična. Siol tega niti približno ne ponuja.

Mislim, da bom kar odjavil Siol in obdržal T-2 (mogoče kdaj v prihodnje posegel po 100/100, glede na to, da stane le 51 EUR na mesec).

levaky je 10. jul 2013 ob 18:39 izjavil:

traceroute to www.google.com (173.194.113.147), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 89-212-0-1.gw.t-2.net (89.212.0.1) 1.064 ms 1.191 ms 1.381 ms
2 84-255-210-177.core.t-2.net (84.255.210.177) 0.680 ms 0.630 ms 0.534 ms
3 84-255-250-5.core.t-2.net (84.255.250.5) 1.273 ms 1.270 ms 1.220 ms
4 84-255-250-26.core.t-2.net (84.255.250.26) 3.165 ms 3.150 ms 3.125 ms
5 win-b4-link.telia.net (213.248.79.229) 6.328 ms 6.554 ms 6.311 ms
6 win-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.133.76) 6.978 ms win-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.132.128) 6.991 ms prag-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.137.220) 12.563 ms
7 ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.131.216) 106.540 ms ffm-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.137.100) 19.657 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.136.134) 30.831 ms
8 ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.254.93) 25.151 ms ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.249.107) 25.166 ms ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.254.249) 30.669 ms
9 google-ic-127674-ffm-b7.c.telia.net (213.248.89.38) 28.207 ms 22.507 ms 22.506 ms
10 72.14.238.44 (72.14.238.44) 25.296 ms 72.14.238.46 (72.14.238.46) 26.353 ms 72.14.238.44 (72.14.238.44) 25.368 ms
11 209.85.251.180 (209.85.251.180) 26.646 ms 209.85.251.248 (209.85.251.248) 25.969 ms 26.220 ms
12 209.85.240.223 (209.85.240.223) 35.122 ms 29.485 ms 35.207 ms
13 72.14.233.166 (72.14.233.166) 74.136 ms 71.732 ms 71.752 ms
14 72.14.235.215 (72.14.235.215) 29.299 ms 34.384 ms 34.349 ms
15 ham02s11-in-f19.1e100.net (173.194.113.147) 34.397 ms 34.315 ms 34.968 ms

Zanimivo. Jaz imam:

Tracing route to ham02s11-in-f19.1e100.net [173.194.113.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  93-103-0-1.gw.t-2.net [93.103.0.1]
  2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  84-255-209-249.core.t-2.net [84.255.209.249]
  3     4 ms     3 ms     3 ms  win-b4-link.telia.net [213.248.79.229]
  4     4 ms     4 ms     4 ms  win-bb2-link.telia.net [213.155.137.226]
  5    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ffm-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.246.30]
  6    22 ms    17 ms    17 ms  ffm-b7-link.telia.net [80.91.254.101]
  7   162 ms   161 ms   168 ms  google-ic-127674-ffm-b7.c.telia.net [213.248.89.
38]
  8    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  72.14.238.46
  9    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  209.85.251.246
 10    27 ms    27 ms    27 ms  209.85.240.223
 11    27 ms    27 ms    27 ms  72.14.233.166
 12    28 ms    28 ms    28 ms  72.14.235.215
 13    28 ms    27 ms    27 ms  ham02s11-in-f19.1e100.net [173.194.113.147]

Trace complete.

Mogoče zato, ker sem iz MB, ti pa iz drugega dela SLO?

Zgodovina sprememb…

spremenil: DejaVu (10. jul 2013 ob 20:25)

ABX :: 10. jul 2013, 21:21

levaky je 10. jul 2013 ob 18:39 izjavil:

traceroute to www.google.com (173.194.113.147), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 89-212-0-1.gw.t-2.net (89.212.0.1) 1.064 ms 1.191 ms 1.381 ms
2 84-255-210-177.core.t-2.net (84.255.210.177) 0.680 ms 0.630 ms 0.534 ms
3 84-255-250-5.core.t-2.net (84.255.250.5) 1.273 ms 1.270 ms 1.220 ms
4 84-255-250-26.core.t-2.net (84.255.250.26) 3.165 ms 3.150 ms 3.125 ms
5 win-b4-link.telia.net (213.248.79.229) 6.328 ms 6.554 ms 6.311 ms
6 win-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.133.76) 6.978 ms win-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.132.128) 6.991 ms prag-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.137.220) 12.563 ms
7 ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.131.216) 106.540 ms ffm-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.137.100) 19.657 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.155.136.134) 30.831 ms
8 ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.254.93) 25.151 ms ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.249.107) 25.166 ms ffm-b7-link.telia.net (80.91.254.249) 30.669 ms
9 google-ic-127674-ffm-b7.c.telia.net (213.248.89.38) 28.207 ms 22.507 ms 22.506 ms
10 72.14.238.44 (72.14.238.44) 25.296 ms 72.14.238.46 (72.14.238.46) 26.353 ms 72.14.238.44 (72.14.238.44) 25.368 ms
11 209.85.251.180 (209.85.251.180) 26.646 ms 209.85.251.248 (209.85.251.248) 25.969 ms 26.220 ms
12 209.85.240.223 (209.85.240.223) 35.122 ms 29.485 ms 35.207 ms
13 72.14.233.166 (72.14.233.166) 74.136 ms 71.732 ms 71.752 ms
14 72.14.235.215 (72.14.235.215) 29.299 ms 34.384 ms 34.349 ms
15 ham02s11-in-f19.1e100.net (173.194.113.147) 34.397 ms 34.315 ms 34.968 ms

Telia.net ima občasno težave, to je edini razlog zakaj ne grem na T-2.

Še iz Siol (torrenti delajo na polno zato malo nihajo pingi)
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms PETRA [192.168.0.1]
2 2 ms 5 ms 2 ms BSN-access.dsl.siol.net [213.250.19.90]
3 50 ms 8 ms 9 ms 95.176.253.83
4 87 ms 34 ms 9 ms 213.250.1.130
5 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 209.85.243.119
6 25 ms 28 ms 25 ms 209.85.241.212
7 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms 209.85.240.223
8 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms 72.14.233.166
9 46 ms 41 ms 33 ms 72.14.235.215
10 33 ms 34 ms 33 ms ham02s11-in-f19.1e100.net [173.194.113.147]

Vaša inštalacija je uspešno spodletela!

Zgodovina sprememb…

spremenilo: ABX (10. jul 2013 ob 21:24)

Bakunin :: 10. jul 2013, 22:40

preveri kam gre za Google storitve.
(od najboljse variante do najslabse) ali gre preko Google global cache ali preko neposrednega peeringa ali pa preko tranzita.

Dostopnost preko raznih IX tock pa preveris na http://ris.ripe.net/ - looking glass

Bakunin :: 10. jul 2013, 22:48

zanimivo...

14 ANSs that only peer at SIX

Zgodovina sprememb…

spremenil: Bakunin (10. jul 2013 ob 22:49)

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