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Izrael : Palestina že n-tič
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NuMaN ::
No, in kaj bi se zgodilo, če bi se Palestinci uprli Hamasovcem in jih "nevtralizirali".
Kaj bi bilo potem? Rajska država na bližnjem vzhodu?
Vse bi bilo kmalu po starem ...
Kaj bi bilo potem? Rajska država na bližnjem vzhodu?
Vse bi bilo kmalu po starem ...
Chalky ::
Težko bodo to ugotovili, ker imajo obleganje s strani Izraela. Verjetno se je še kdo pridružil uporu.
To so samo izgovori da se ne razkrije Hamas. Verjetno je zdaj že vsem jasno da Hamas krade tovornjake humanitarne pomoči. Ne vem kako ti to ni jasno. Drugače pa krožijo na X posnetki kako se je neki Palestinec pritoževal glede Hamasa, bojda so ga kasneje ubili. Vem da so pobili nekaj civilistov saj je v posnetku kritiziral Hamas.
Tega ne smeš tu lepit, boš izbrisan...
Mene samo zanima če bodo tudi te smrtne žrtve všteli v tistih 20k+ mrtvih ali so pobiti civilisti s strani Hamasa ne štejejo.
Kdaj bodo Palestinci ugotovili da je Hamas njihov največji sovražnik?
To vedo ze desetletja. In kaj naj nardijo ?
Uprejo naj se če to vedo? Saj jih je preko 2 milijona. Ne mi zdaj da niso sposobni razorožiti tistih 20k Hamas borcev. Seveda lahko samo nočejo to je problem.
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Utk ::
Če je Hamas prikazan kot legitimna oblast, jim kaj drugega niti ne preostane. In tako prikazan je, ker tudi vsa EU pomoč gre čez njih. EU, če bi koga res kaj brigalo, bi ustavila pomoč dokler ni nekih poštenih volitev.
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sbawe64 ::
Toliko ladij, ki so jih Američani in Britanci poslali za ščitenje trgovskih poti, in vojske ki jo imajo zaradi podpiranja Izraelskega genocida, bi Hutije zradirali v 5 minutah.
Verjetno vejo da podaljševanje agonije, predvsem koristi Američanom in Britancem, da slabijo Evropsko ekonomijo,. Evropska ekonomija pa ne more pocen dobiti robe iz Azije, kot z ladjami.
Po drugi strani....
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25860
1400 km obale ob Jemnu. ~20 ladij na papirju.
Matematika ti ravno ne gre.
razpoke v koaliciji voljnih 2
https://gcaptain.com/spain-italy-france...
Btw, za sestrelitev dronov za 10k uporabljajo rakete s ceno 2M po komadu.
Kdo bo dlje vztrajal ?
Ansarallah enote so battle hardened in močno mobilne, 8 let so jih KSA skupaj z ZAE ter Us/Uk podporo napadale po kopnem, morju in zraku.
Vojna v Gazi v številkah
https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2023/12/th...
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
Corona World order
Gregor P ::
Prosim nehaj sanjat
The main failure in computers is usually located between keyboard and chair.
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
You read what you believe and you believe what you read ...
Nisam čit'o, ali osudjujem (nisem bral, a obsojam).
Lesoto ::
1400 km obale ob Jemnu. ~20 ladij na papirju.
a si ziher?
Btw, za sestrelitev dronov za 10k uporabljajo rakete s ceno 2M po komadu.
Kakšni so to droni za 10k?
Ansarallah enote so battle hardened in močno mobilne, 8 let so jih KSA skupaj z ZAE ter Us/Uk podporo napadale po kopnem, morju in zraku.
Ma daj ga srat, no.
Vojna v Gazi v številkah
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1...
Gaza city, one week before they decided to break into Israel, kill over a thousand, and kidnap hundreds.
It's all gone. Was it worth it?
kunigunda ::
Težko bodo to ugotovili, ker imajo obleganje s strani Izraela. Verjetno se je še kdo pridružil uporu.
To so samo izgovori da se ne razkrije Hamas. Verjetno je zdaj že vsem jasno da Hamas krade tovornjake humanitarne pomoči. Ne vem kako ti to ni jasno. Drugače pa krožijo na X posnetki kako se je neki Palestinec pritoževal glede Hamasa, bojda so ga kasneje ubili. Vem da so pobili nekaj civilistov saj je v posnetku kritiziral Hamas.
Tega ne smeš tu lepit, boš izbrisan...
Mene samo zanima če bodo tudi te smrtne žrtve všteli v tistih 20k+ mrtvih ali so pobiti civilisti s strani Hamasa ne štejejo.
Kdaj bodo Palestinci ugotovili da je Hamas njihov največji sovražnik?
To vedo ze desetletja. In kaj naj nardijo ?
Uprejo naj se če to vedo? Saj jih je preko 2 milijona. Ne mi zdaj da niso sposobni razorožiti tistih 20k Hamas borcev. Seveda lahko samo nočejo to je problem.
Nas je tud preko 2 miljona. Pa kaj smo spremenili mi ljudje, ce si vlada nekaj spomne (pa noben ne bi streljal na nas) ?
LeQuack ::
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1...
Gaza city, one week before they decided to break into Israel, kill over a thousand, and kidnap hundreds.
It's all gone. Was it worth it?
Hočeš reči en teden pred načrtovani Izraelsko false flag operacijo?
Quack !
nurmaln ::
Tega ne smeš tu lepit, boš izbrisan...
Mene samo zanima če bodo tudi te smrtne žrtve všteli v tistih 20k+ mrtvih ali so pobiti civilisti s strani Hamasa ne štejejo.
Kdaj bodo Palestinci ugotovili da je Hamas njihov največji sovražnik?
To vedo ze desetletja. In kaj naj nardijo ?
Ah dej no, Hamas je na volitvah 2006 prejel prepričljivo večino glasov. Treba si bo priznat, da so si sami to izbrali.
"I will be quoted in someone's signature,
even if I have to do it myself!" - nurmaln
even if I have to do it myself!" - nurmaln
Moe_Lester ::
Hamas je tudi po 7. Oktobru še vedno izjemno priljubljen. Sem že nalepil statistiko v to temo. cca. 3/4 palestincev podpira al qassam (oboroženo vejo hamasa, da ne bo kdo mislil, da podpirajo samo politično stranko).
LeQuack ::
Ah dej no, Hamas je na volitvah 2006 prejel prepričljivo večino glasov. Treba si bo priznat, da so si sami to izbrali.
A če bi vi živeli v getu si ne bi izvolili nekoga ki se hoče bojevati proti genocidnem sovražniku?
Quack !
kunigunda ::
Tega ne smeš tu lepit, boš izbrisan...
Mene samo zanima če bodo tudi te smrtne žrtve všteli v tistih 20k+ mrtvih ali so pobiti civilisti s strani Hamasa ne štejejo.
Kdaj bodo Palestinci ugotovili da je Hamas njihov največji sovražnik?
To vedo ze desetletja. In kaj naj nardijo ?
Ah dej no, Hamas je na volitvah 2006 prejel prepričljivo večino glasov. Treba si bo priznat, da so si sami to izbrali.
Takrat hamas se ni bil tok militanten in je bla edina alternativa pa-ju, ki je ratal koruptiven in je samo za svojo rit skrbel.
Moe_Lester ::
Ja, pravi mirovniki so bili že od ustanovitve naprej.
https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880...
https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880...
Goals of the HAMAS:
------------------
'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.' (Article 6)
On the Destruction of Israel:
-----------------------------
'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)
The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:
----------------------------------------
'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)
'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
The Call to Jihad:
------------------
'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,
it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)
'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses
everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the
call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will
reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is
achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
(Article 33)
Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:
-------------------------------------------
'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:
----------------------------------------------
'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle
[against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The
Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar
agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.
...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason,
and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)
Anti-Semitic Incitement:
------------------------
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
Lesoto ::
Lesoto ::
https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/statu...
Unbelievable. Iran already announces the killing this afternoon by Israel, in #Damascus outskirts, of General Rahdi Moussawi, senior #IRGC commander deployed in #Syria who was close to Soleimani.
This is the most senior #IRGC leader slain since 2020.
Iranian General Moussawi photographed with IRGC commander Q. Soleimani.
First one was killed today in an Israeli airstrike near Damascus - Syria (he also had an office in the Syrian Defense Ministry).Both played prominent role against Rebels in Aleppo.
https://bit.ly/3GWJv2x
Unbelievable. Iran already announces the killing this afternoon by Israel, in #Damascus outskirts, of General Rahdi Moussawi, senior #IRGC commander deployed in #Syria who was close to Soleimani.
This is the most senior #IRGC leader slain since 2020.
Iranian General Moussawi photographed with IRGC commander Q. Soleimani.
First one was killed today in an Israeli airstrike near Damascus - Syria (he also had an office in the Syrian Defense Ministry).Both played prominent role against Rebels in Aleppo.
https://bit.ly/3GWJv2x
kunigunda ::
Moe_Lester je izjavil:
Ja, pravi mirovniki so bili že od ustanovitve naprej.
https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880...
Goals of the HAMAS:
------------------
'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.' (Article 6)
On the Destruction of Israel:
-----------------------------
'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)
The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:
----------------------------------------
'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)
'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
The Call to Jihad:
------------------
'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,
it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)
'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses
everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the
call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will
reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is
achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
(Article 33)
Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:
-------------------------------------------
'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:
----------------------------------------------
'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle
[against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The
Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar
agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.
...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason,
and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)
Anti-Semitic Incitement:
------------------------
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
Glih tok kukr netanyahu od izvolitve...
Moe_Lester ::
Nah, je kar konkretna razlika.
1. Zadnje volitve v Gazi so bile 2006. Od takrat naprej se Hamasu ni zdelo vredno ponavljati teh nesmiselnih formalnosti. V Izraelu so bile v istem času volitve v državni zbor 8x, če se ne motim?
2. Netanyahu lahko sicer fura svojo desničarsko politiko in podpihuje sovraštvo, ampak brez širše podpore nima moči. Za razliko od Hamasa, kjer peščica miljarderjev iz Qatarja upravlja z državo.
3. Izraelska ustava in zakoni ne omenjajo džihada, pobijanja muslimanov itd. Ravno nasprotno, vsem zagotavlja enake pravice. Tudi v programu likuda ne piše nič konkretnega o genocidu.
1. Zadnje volitve v Gazi so bile 2006. Od takrat naprej se Hamasu ni zdelo vredno ponavljati teh nesmiselnih formalnosti. V Izraelu so bile v istem času volitve v državni zbor 8x, če se ne motim?
2. Netanyahu lahko sicer fura svojo desničarsko politiko in podpihuje sovraštvo, ampak brez širše podpore nima moči. Za razliko od Hamasa, kjer peščica miljarderjev iz Qatarja upravlja z državo.
3. Izraelska ustava in zakoni ne omenjajo džihada, pobijanja muslimanov itd. Ravno nasprotno, vsem zagotavlja enake pravice. Tudi v programu likuda ne piše nič konkretnega o genocidu.
kunigunda ::
Moe_Lester je izjavil:
Nah, je kar konkretna razlika.
1. Zadnje volitve v Gazi so bile 2006. Od takrat naprej se Hamasu ni zdelo vredno ponavljati teh nesmiselnih formalnosti. V Izraelu so bile v istem času volitve v državni zbor 8x, če se ne motim?
2. Netanyahu lahko sicer fura svojo desničarsko politiko in podpihuje sovraštvo, ampak brez širše podpore nima moči. Za razliko od Hamasa, kjer peščica miljarderjev iz Qatarja upravlja z državo.
3. Izraelska ustava in zakoni ne omenjajo džihada, pobijanja muslimanov itd. Ravno nasprotno, vsem zagotavlja enake pravice. Tudi v programu likuda ne piše nič konkretnega o genocidu.
Izrael nima ustave. Njihovi zakoni pa dalec, da bi zagotavljali enake pravice. Ze od 1985 naprej.Med drugim palestince obravnava vojasko sodisce, izraelce pa civilno.
Izid je skoraj vedno vsaj vecletni pripor. Kar se tice zemlje, imajo pravico samo izraelci, za palestince je to vpisan kot privilegij. itd.
Noben iz qatarja ne upravlja z gazo, to je zgodbica za medije, jih zgolj podpirajo (najvec financno). Kar se tice o genocidu, ze pred 48 so imel izraelci dokumente o
ciscenju drzave, vmes so jih popravljali (A,B,C), zadnji znan je D (Dalet).
Moe_Lester ::
Izrael nima ustave.
Smo že obdelali. Izrael ima ustavo.
Noben iz qatarja ne upravlja z gazo, to je zgodbica za medije
Ismail Haniyeh[a] (born 29 January 1962) is a Palestinian politician who is a senior political leader of Hamas, the current chairman of Hamas's political bureau; as of 2023, Haniyeh lives in Qatar.[2]
Khaled Mashal (Arabic: ???? ????, romanized: Khalid Mash?al, Levantine Arabic pronunciation: [xa:led me??al]; born 28 May 1956) is a Palestinian political leader who is the former head of the militant organization Hamas. Residence: Doha, Qatar (since 2012)
Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook (Arabic: ???? ???? ??? ?????; born 9 January 1951) is a Palestinian senior member of Hamas. Residence: Doha, Qatar
kunigunda ::
Moe_Lester je izjavil:
Izrael nima ustave.
Smo že obdelali. Izrael ima ustavo.
Noben iz qatarja ne upravlja z gazo, to je zgodbica za medije
Ismail Haniyeh[a] (born 29 January 1962) is a Palestinian politician who is a senior political leader of Hamas, the current chairman of Hamas's political bureau; as of 2023, Haniyeh lives in Qatar.[2]
Khaled Mashal (Arabic: ???? ????, romanized: Khalid Mash?al, Levantine Arabic pronunciation: [xa:led me??al]; born 28 May 1956) is a Palestinian political leader who is the former head of the militant organization Hamas. Residence: Doha, Qatar (since 2012)
Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook (Arabic: ???? ???? ??? ?????; born 9 January 1951) is a Palestinian senior member of Hamas. Residence: Doha, Qatar
Narobe ste obdelali. Ve se kaj je ustava, ima jo cel svet z izjemo parih drzav. Kako izrael svoje dokumente naziva je njihov problem, ni pa to ustava, ki se jo prizna kot drugod po svetu.
Hamas ma vsepovsod svoje clane po tujini, ampak so bolj svetovalci kot leaderji, glavni so se zmeraj zgolj v gazi (z izjemo dveh ki sta v egiptu trenutno)
LeQuack ::
Najtežje je vsekakor Biden-u, ker bo zaradi tega moral izgubiti predsedniške volitve. Težko mu je.
Quack !
Lesoto ::
Moe_Lester ::
Narobe ste obdelali. Ve se kaj je ustava, ima jo cel svet z izjemo parih drzav. Kako izrael svoje dokumente naziva je njihov problem, ni pa to ustava, ki se jo prizna kot drugod po svetu.
Se grem pritožit nekdanjemu ustavnemu sodniku in avtorju učbenika za ustavno pravo, da nas je na faksu učil narobe.
kunigunda ::
Moe_Lester je izjavil:
Narobe ste obdelali. Ve se kaj je ustava, ima jo cel svet z izjemo parih drzav. Kako izrael svoje dokumente naziva je njihov problem, ni pa to ustava, ki se jo prizna kot drugod po svetu.
Se grem pritožit nekdanjemu ustavnemu sodniku in avtorju učbenika za ustavno pravo, da nas je na faksu učil narobe.
Ne bo prvic. Tud jest sm prfoksu ze reku, da nebuloze govori (ne na PF) :)
fur80 ::
Ah dej no, Hamas je na volitvah 2006 prejel prepričljivo večino glasov. Treba si bo priznat, da so si sami to izbrali.
A če bi vi živeli v getu si ne bi izvolili nekoga ki se hoče bojevati proti genocidnem sovražniku?
Ti si celi geto! Zastonj hrana, zastonj elektrika, zastonj voda, futrali so jih pa vsi od EU do Savdske Arabije, ZAE, Irana,... Geto je bil leta 41 nad Židi v Warsawi, tu je bila Indija koromandija od geta... povej malo s čim in kako se to primerja, je kdo umiral od lakote, kdo ni imel avta, interneta, bolnice,... Si slišal kdaj za favele, lačne otroke v Afriki,... Kaj je imel en Palestinec manj od otroka v Kongu, Mjanmaru, Johanesburgu, v Kijevu, belizeju...?
Zgodovina sprememb…
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NuMaN ::
Najtežje je vsekakor Biden-u, ker bo zaradi tega moral izgubiti predsedniške volitve. Težko mu je.
Bidenovi glasovi bodo šli k Republikancem, ki so še bolj za Izrael.
Eni čisto nič ne razmišljate, kaj pišete...
Bo pa zmagal Trump in bo zavladal mir v svetu.
Tu pa tam bo z drončkom koga eliminiral.
Ampak verjetno bo klima v svetu malce boljša, ja.
Rambutan ::
https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/statu...
Unbelievable. Iran already announces the killing this afternoon by Israel, in #Damascus outskirts, of General Rahdi Moussawi, senior #IRGC commander deployed in #Syria who was close to Soleimani.
This is the most senior #IRGC leader slain since 2020.
Iranian General Moussawi photographed with IRGC commander Q. Soleimani.
First one was killed today in an Israeli airstrike near Damascus - Syria (he also had an office in the Syrian Defense Ministry).Both played prominent role against Rebels in Aleppo.
https://bit.ly/3GWJv2x
Netanyahu hoče potegniti ZDA v vojno z Iranom. Upajmo, da bo Iran na ta napad odgovoril premišljeno, to lahko hitro eskalira in bo zaprta Hormuška ožina in cel svet bo v naftni krizi.
Zanimivo, da Haaretz tako odkrito piše o tem, v zahodnih medijih lahko samo sanjamo o takem poročanju.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202...
The confluence of an ongoing war, Netanyahu’s reluctance to enunciate any ideas about the “day after” in Gaza, and major and ominous escalatory developments in Lebanon are creating a rift between U.S. and Israeli policies to the point that some in the Biden administration and Congress are beginning to think Netanyahu is trying to drag the Americans into a war with Iran. He isn’t interested in a second front in the north with Hezbollah but, they believe, a U.S. strike against Iran’s provocations would potentially turn Netanyahu’s abject debacle into some kind of strategic triumph.
That is the same convoluted logic that guided him when he encouraged his soulmate, then-President Donald Trump, to unilaterally withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal in May 2018. That was also the underlining logic of his 2002 congressional hearing encouraging the Americans to invade Iraq, because it would “stabilize the region” and “reverberate” to Iran.
Such are his fundamentally flawed strategic concepts – as was tragically the case with “strengthening Hamas to weaken the Palestinian Authority” in the years leading up to the October 7 devastation; his “best buddies” relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin; or his office’s ill-conceived remark earlier this year that China is an option Israel has, after Biden refrained from inviting him to the White House.
Last week, under U.S. pressure to state or even hint at Israel’s ultimate political goal in Gaza, Netanyahu – clearly speaking under duress – provided his first insight into a post-Hamas Gaza. Israel, he said, would oversee and maintain “overall security responsibility” for an indefinite period of time.
Does that mean full occupation? A prolonged military presence in Gaza? Occasional “search and destroy” incursions? Does that mean Hamas will have residual political power and, if so, will effectively govern Gaza? And if not, who will govern Gaza?
fur80 ::
Hamasu so se odpovedali tudi zavezniki, edini ki so se zraven so Iran in Hutiji. Težka bo, v Iranu je že zdaj težko, spet so pametni in bo se težje. Ferrari, IPhone, stanovanje v Londonu, keš v Las Vegasu, nazadnje le zmaga.
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/173...
Dr. Salem Alketbi, an Emirati political analyst and strategic expert, writes:
"There is no place for Hamas in the post-Gaza war calculations. Hamas committed crimes also against its 'people' - the defenseless Palestinian civilians. The Hamas attacks have returned the Palestinian cause to square one.
Oni Hutije bodo poradirali v trenutku, če bo samo malo kaj ogroženo, potem boš jokal tu o zlobnih USA in ostalih.
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/173...
Dr. Salem Alketbi, an Emirati political analyst and strategic expert, writes:
"There is no place for Hamas in the post-Gaza war calculations. Hamas committed crimes also against its 'people' - the defenseless Palestinian civilians. The Hamas attacks have returned the Palestinian cause to square one.
https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/statu...
Unbelievable. Iran already announces the killing this afternoon by Israel, in #Damascus outskirts, of General Rahdi Moussawi, senior #IRGC commander deployed in #Syria who was close to Soleimani.
This is the most senior #IRGC leader slain since 2020.
Iranian General Moussawi photographed with IRGC commander Q. Soleimani.
First one was killed today in an Israeli airstrike near Damascus - Syria (he also had an office in the Syrian Defense Ministry).Both played prominent role against Rebels in Aleppo.
https://bit.ly/3GWJv2x
Netanyahu hoče potegniti ZDA v vojno z Iranom. Upajmo, da bo Iran na ta napad odgovoril premišljeno, to lahko hitro eskalira in bo zaprta Hormuška ožina in cel svet bo v naftni krizi.
Zanimivo, da Haaretz tako odkrito piše o tem, v zahodnih medijih lahko samo sanjamo o takem poročanju.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202...
The confluence of an ongoing war, Netanyahu’s reluctance to enunciate any ideas about the “day after” in Gaza, and major and ominous escalatory developments in Lebanon are creating a rift between U.S. and Israeli policies to the point that some in the Biden administration and Congress are beginning to think Netanyahu is trying to drag the Americans into a war with Iran. He isn’t interested in a second front in the north with Hezbollah but, they believe, a U.S. strike against Iran’s provocations would potentially turn Netanyahu’s abject debacle into some kind of strategic triumph.
That is the same convoluted logic that guided him when he encouraged his soulmate, then-President Donald Trump, to unilaterally withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal in May 2018. That was also the underlining logic of his 2002 congressional hearing encouraging the Americans to invade Iraq, because it would “stabilize the region” and “reverberate” to Iran.
Such are his fundamentally flawed strategic concepts – as was tragically the case with “strengthening Hamas to weaken the Palestinian Authority” in the years leading up to the October 7 devastation; his “best buddies” relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin; or his office’s ill-conceived remark earlier this year that China is an option Israel has, after Biden refrained from inviting him to the White House.
Last week, under U.S. pressure to state or even hint at Israel’s ultimate political goal in Gaza, Netanyahu – clearly speaking under duress – provided his first insight into a post-Hamas Gaza. Israel, he said, would oversee and maintain “overall security responsibility” for an indefinite period of time.
Does that mean full occupation? A prolonged military presence in Gaza? Occasional “search and destroy” incursions? Does that mean Hamas will have residual political power and, if so, will effectively govern Gaza? And if not, who will govern Gaza?
Oni Hutije bodo poradirali v trenutku, če bo samo malo kaj ogroženo, potem boš jokal tu o zlobnih USA in ostalih.
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Rambutan ::
Oni Hutije bodo poradirali v trenutku, če bo samo malo kaj ogroženo, potem boš jokal tu o zlobnih USA in ostalih.
SA ni uspelo premagati Hutijev v 8 letih, čeprav so jim pomagale ZDA. Hutiji so z iranskimi raketami začeli ogrožati SA naftna polja in SA se je bila prisiljena pogajati s Hutiji za mir.
Tudi ZDA ne bodo mogli samo iz zraka premagati Hutije, močno pa dvomim, da bi ZDA kopensko posredovale. Sicer pa kot kaže ZDA niti te pomorske koalicije ne bodo uspele sestaviti.
papasmrk ::
A če bi vi živeli v getu si ne bi izvolili nekoga ki se hoče bojevati proti genocidnem sovražniku?
Morda je pa ravno ta militantni pristop napačen in bi za bilo za blagostanje palestincev bolje, da odložijo orožje in bi več vlagali v izobrazbo prebivalstva. Nonstop pranje možganov kako slabi so židje in da jih je potrebno eliminirat očitno za nadaljni obstoj palestincev ni dober pristop. Ampak ta kratkovidnost in sovraštvo do judov in ostalih je del islamske folklore in je prisoten v vseh muslimanskih državah.
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coffeetime12 ::
Morda je pa ravno ta militantni pristop napačen in bi za bilo za blagostanje palestincev bolje, da odložijo orožje in bi več vlagali v izobrazbo prebivalstva. Nonstop pranje možganov kako slabi so židje in da jih je potrebno eliminirat očitno za nadaljni obstoj palestincev ni dober pristop. Ampak ta kratkovidnost in sovraštvo do judov in ostalih je del islamske folklore in je prisoten v vseh muslimanskih državah.
Morda je pa ravno ta militantni pristop napačen in bi za bilo za blagostanje Izraelcov bolje, da odložijo orožje in bi več vlagali v izobrazbo prebivalstva. Nonstop pranje možganov kako slabi so Palestinci in da jih je potrebno eliminirat očitno za nadaljni obstoj Judov ni dober pristop. Ampak ta kratkovidnost in sovraštvo do Palestincev in ostalih je del judovske folklore in je prisoten v vseh zahodnih državah.
coffeetime12 ::
SA ni uspelo premagati Hutijev v 8 letih, čeprav so jim pomagale ZDA. Hutiji so z iranskimi raketami začeli ogrožati SA naftna polja in SA se je bila prisiljena pogajati s Hutiji za mir.
Tudi ZDA ne bodo mogli samo iz zraka premagati Hutije, močno pa dvomim, da bi ZDA kopensko posredovale. Sicer pa kot kaže ZDA niti te pomorske koalicije ne bodo uspele sestaviti.
Če pogledaš zahodno propagando, so Ansar Allah [za zahtevno zahodno občinstvo grozljiva izgovorjava] priročno preimeneovali v Hutije. Ansar Allah so lepo povedali, da v primeru napada ZDA, SA izgubi nafta polja, sledi napad na zahodno ladjevje. Koalicija, pod vodstvom ZDA je propadla, kar pomeni, da bodo morale tokrat pred celim Svetom končno dati lastne lešnike v ogenj. To, da so do sedaj Ansar Allah zaustavili plovbo, vplivajo na ekonomsko dogajanje, ki se še posebej tiče EU. Razgledano, a zahtevno zahodno občinstvo tega ne razume. Medtem so karte na mizi.
ZDA niso sposobne ničeasr več. Zakaj ZDA niso bombardirale Jemna do sedaj? V preteklosti bi že padalo. CNN bi žarel od navdušenja. Zakaj se Izrael ne ukvarja z južnim Libanonom, kjer je Hezbolah prisilil v evakucijo 70.000 Izraelcev?
James Carville: "It's the economy, stupid"
Svet je dokočno spremenjen
Lonsarg ::
Ampak kdor misli da bomo na boljšem ko bo vakum moči, ki se bo zmanjšal US, zasedle druge države se globoko moti. Srečo bomo imeli če bomo na istem.
Lesoto ::
coffeetime12 je izjavil:
Če pogledaš zahodno propagando, so Ansar Allah [za zahtevno zahodno občinstvo grozljiva izgovorjava] priročno preimeneovali v Hutije. Ansar Allah so lepo povedali, da v primeru napada ZDA, SA izgubi nafta polja, sledi napad na zahodno ladjevje. Koalicija, pod vodstvom ZDA je propadla, kar pomeni, da bodo morale tokrat pred celim Svetom končno dati lastne lešnike v ogenj. To, da so do sedaj Ansar Allah zaustavili plovbo, vplivajo na ekonomsko dogajanje, ki se še posebej tiče EU. Razgledano, a zahtevno zahodno občinstvo tega ne razume. Medtem so karte na mizi.
ZDA niso sposobne ničeasr več. Zakaj ZDA niso bombardirale Jemna do sedaj? V preteklosti bi že padalo. CNN bi žarel od navdušenja. Zakaj se Izrael ne ukvarja z južnim Libanonom, kjer je Hezbolah prisilil v evakucijo 70.000 Izraelcev?
James Carville: "It's the economy, stupid"
Svet je dokočno spremenjen
Matr, kaj si nametal enega gnoja, bravo.
Hutiji kontrolirajo gorovit predel Jemna, kjer je relief podoben onemu Afganistanskemu. Ne moreš kar napast, ker ENOSTAVNO NIMAŠ CILJEV.
A je težko razumet?
Zeleno je pod kontrolo Hutijev
Sicer pa... to je bolj evropski, pa kitajski problem, ne toliko ameriški
Kitajc ti ne bo pomagal.
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/...
Chinese naval vessels reportedly ignored distress calls from an Israeli-owned tanker under attack by the Houthis.
FiReFTW ::
Mene zanima zakaj je izrael tako neumen, kao hočejo uničit hamas, ubijajo pa na desettisoče palestincev, bratov, sester, žen, mož.... ne bojo uničli hamas, hamas bo samo rastel v številkah ker si delajo več in več sovražnikov, res so neumni.
Rambutan ::
Zanimivo je tudi, da desničarji najbolj podpirajo Izrael, medtem ko Izraelci odkrito pljuvajo kristjane, jih napadajo in vandalizirajo krščanske spomenike. CBN novinar se je preoblekel v frančiškanskega meniha in se sprehodil po Jeruzalemu. V petih minutah so ga 5x popljuvali. Vse to pa z neukrepanjem prikrito dovoljuje sedanja skrajna vlada.
Kaj pa na to pravite tisti zagovorniki Izraela, ki ste verni?
https://twitter.com/md5sha1/status/1739...
https://twitter.com/HudaKhalifeh1/statu...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/...
A video of ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting on the ground beside a procession of foreign Christian worshippers carrying a wooden cross in the holy city of Jerusalem has ignited intense outrage and a flurry of condemnation in the Holy Land.
The spitting incident, which the city’s minority Christian community lamented as the latest in an alarming surge of religiously motivated attacks, drew rare outrage on Tuesday from the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and other senior figures.
Since Israel’s most conservative government in history came to power late last year, concerns have mounted among religious leaders – including the influential Vatican-appointed Latin Patriarch – over the increasing harassment of the region’s 2,000-year-old Christian community.
Many say the government, with its powerful ultranationalist members, such as the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, and the national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, has emboldened Jewish extremists and created a sense of impunity.
“What happened with rightwing religious nationalism is that Jewish identity has been growing around anti-Christianity,” said Yisca Harani, a Christianity expert and founder of an Israeli hotline for anti-Christian assaults. “Even if the government doesn’t encourage it, they hint that there will be no sanctions.”
Kaj pa na to pravite tisti zagovorniki Izraela, ki ste verni?
https://twitter.com/md5sha1/status/1739...
https://twitter.com/HudaKhalifeh1/statu...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/...
A video of ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting on the ground beside a procession of foreign Christian worshippers carrying a wooden cross in the holy city of Jerusalem has ignited intense outrage and a flurry of condemnation in the Holy Land.
The spitting incident, which the city’s minority Christian community lamented as the latest in an alarming surge of religiously motivated attacks, drew rare outrage on Tuesday from the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and other senior figures.
Since Israel’s most conservative government in history came to power late last year, concerns have mounted among religious leaders – including the influential Vatican-appointed Latin Patriarch – over the increasing harassment of the region’s 2,000-year-old Christian community.
Many say the government, with its powerful ultranationalist members, such as the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, and the national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, has emboldened Jewish extremists and created a sense of impunity.
“What happened with rightwing religious nationalism is that Jewish identity has been growing around anti-Christianity,” said Yisca Harani, a Christianity expert and founder of an Israeli hotline for anti-Christian assaults. “Even if the government doesn’t encourage it, they hint that there will be no sanctions.”
bajsibajsi ::
Mene zanima zakaj je izrael tako neumen, kao hočejo uničit hamas, ubijajo pa na desettisoče palestincev, bratov, sester, žen, mož.... ne bojo uničli hamas, hamas bo samo rastel v številkah ker si delajo več in več sovražnikov, res so neumni.
Saj Izrael ne zeli uniciti Hamasa. Hamas je v interesu Izraela in za Izrael strateskega pomena. Hamas je nastal pod taktirko Izraela, v Hamasu je mnozica infiltriranih zidov.
Lesoto ::
Mene zanima zakaj je izrael tako neumen, kao hočejo uničit hamas, ubijajo pa na desettisoče palestincev, bratov, sester, žen, mož.... ne bojo uničli hamas, hamas bo samo rastel v številkah ker si delajo več in več sovražnikov, res so neumni.
A si ti videl kakšnega Hamasovca v vojaški uniformi? Velika večina jih je oblečena kot civili.
kunigunda ::
Mene zanima zakaj je izrael tako neumen, kao hočejo uničit hamas, ubijajo pa na desettisoče palestincev, bratov, sester, žen, mož.... ne bojo uničli hamas, hamas bo samo rastel v številkah ker si delajo več in več sovražnikov, res so neumni.
Sej je dost sam da sever gaze spucajo pa nazaj okupirajo, glede na to da je plan morskega kanala ravno tam skozi. 3miljarde na leto se bo kar poznalo...
Ah dej no, Hamas je na volitvah 2006 prejel prepričljivo večino glasov. Treba si bo priznat, da so si sami to izbrali.
A če bi vi živeli v getu si ne bi izvolili nekoga ki se hoče bojevati proti genocidnem sovražniku?
Ti si celi geto! Zastonj hrana, zastonj elektrika, zastonj voda, futrali so jih pa vsi od EU do Savdske Arabije, ZAE, Irana,... Geto je bil leta 41 nad Židi v Warsawi, tu je bila Indija koromandija od geta... povej malo s čim in kako se to primerja, je kdo umiral od lakote, kdo ni imel avta, interneta, bolnice,... Si slišal kdaj za favele, lačne otroke v Afriki,... Kaj je imel en Palestinec manj od otroka v Kongu, Mjanmaru, Johanesburgu, v Kijevu, belizeju...?
Nc ni zastojn v gazi, hrano se placa, elektriko placa PA IEC-ju, vodo Mekorotu, problem je k ma PA dost dnarja pa noce neki placvat, pa jim izrael pol z davki kompenzira.
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sbawe64 ::
Ah dej no, Hamas je na volitvah 2006 prejel prepričljivo večino glasov. Treba si bo priznat, da so si sami to izbrali.
A če bi vi živeli v getu si ne bi izvolili nekoga ki se hoče bojevati proti genocidnem sovražniku?
Ti si celi geto! Zastonj hrana, zastonj elektrika, zastonj voda, futrali so jih pa vsi od EU do Savdske Arabije, ZAE, Irana,... Geto je bil leta 41 nad Židi v Warsawi, tu je bila Indija koromandija od geta... povej malo s čim in kako se to primerja, je kdo umiral od lakote, kdo ni imel avta, interneta, bolnice,... Si slišal kdaj za favele, lačne otroke v Afriki,... Kaj je imel en Palestinec manj od otroka v Kongu, Mjanmaru, Johanesburgu, v Kijevu, belizeju...?
Zakaj se potem še nisi preselil v ta raj ?
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
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Rambutan ::
Moe_Lester je izjavil:
Link prosim.
To smo že obdelali, Izrael je pod Netanyahuyem podpiral Hamas, da je razdelil Palestince v Gazi in na zahodnem bregu. Netanyahu je celo preko Katarja omogočal financiranje Hamasa.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202...
The MO of Netanyahu’s policy since his return to the Prime Minister’s Office in 2009 has and continues to be, on the one hand, bolstering the rule of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and, on the other, weakening the Palestinian Authority.
For the last 14 years, while implementing a divide-and-conquer policy vis-a-vis the West Bank and Gaza, “Abu Yair” (“Yair’s father,” in Arabic, as Netanyahu called himself while campaigning in the Arab community before one recent election) has resisted any attempt, military or diplomatic, that might bring an end to the Hamas regime.
In practice, since the Cast Lead operation in late 2008 and early 2009, during the Olmert era, Hamas’ rule has not faced any genuine military threat. On the contrary: The group has been supported by the Israeli prime minister, and funded with his assistance.
For over a decade, Netanyahu has lent a hand, in various ways, to the growing military and political power of Hamas. Netanyahu is the one who turned Hamas from a terror organization with few resources into a semi-state body.
Releasing Palestinian prisoners, allowing cash transfers, as the Qatari envoy comes and goes to Gaza as he pleases, agreeing to the import of a broad array of goods, construction materials in particular, with the knowledge that much of the material will be designated for terrorism and not for building civilian infrastructure, increasing the number of work permits in Israel for Palestinian workers from Gaza, and more. All these developments created symbiosis between the flowering of fundamentalist terrorism and preservation of Netanyahu’s rule.
bajsibajsi ::
Mene zanima zakaj je izrael tako neumen, kao hočejo uničit hamas, ubijajo pa na desettisoče palestincev, bratov, sester, žen, mož.... ne bojo uničli hamas, hamas bo samo rastel v številkah ker si delajo več in več sovražnikov, res so neumni.
A si ti videl kakšnega Hamasovca v vojaški uniformi? Velika večina jih je oblečena kot civili.
Ja, tudi dojencki.
s1m0n ::
bajsibajsi je izjavil:
Mene zanima zakaj je izrael tako neumen, kao hočejo uničit hamas, ubijajo pa na desettisoče palestincev, bratov, sester, žen, mož.... ne bojo uničli hamas, hamas bo samo rastel v številkah ker si delajo več in več sovražnikov, res so neumni.
A si ti videl kakšnega Hamasovca v vojaški uniformi? Velika večina jih je oblečena kot civili.
Ja, tudi dojencki.
No ja prej boš videl dojenčka s puško kot pa igračo... to ti pa dam prav!
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sbawe64 ::
Kosovski teroristi z imenom Uck so počeli enako
Euro-Med: Izraelski vojaki kradejo organe iz trupel v Gazi
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/bliznji-vzho...
Euro-Med: Izraelski vojaki kradejo organe iz trupel v Gazi
https://www.rtvslo.si/svet/bliznji-vzho...
2020 is new 1984
Corona World order
Corona World order
cvalsr ::
Kraje organov se ne da dokazati ali ovreči zgolj s forenzičnim zdravniškim pregledom, saj je več pokojnikov pred smrtjo prestalo operacijo, so dejali zdravniki več bolnišnic v Gazi.
... so napipsali v tem članku.
Seveda, prestali so "operacijo", po kateri jim manjkajo jetra, ledvice, srce, oči, ... ampak to ni "forenzični dokaz".
V isti novici pa tudi izkopavajo grobišča in kradejo trupla z namenom ???, (po nekem času "zorenja" v zemlji)?
Vse verjamem, do zadnje črke.
Je pa jasno, da to počnejo kriminalci v vseh vojskah, paravojskah in milicah, (ki se tudi s tem financirajo), tako Alaharji kot Nacizraelci, pa Srbi, Šiptarji, Rusi, Ukrajinci,... do "Največje demokracije na planetu" in navadnih trgovcev z belim blagom, ki uvažajo Filipince itd...
nurmaln ::
Tega ne smeš tu lepit, boš izbrisan...
Mene samo zanima če bodo tudi te smrtne žrtve všteli v tistih 20k+ mrtvih ali so pobiti civilisti s strani Hamasa ne štejejo.
Kdaj bodo Palestinci ugotovili da je Hamas njihov največji sovražnik?
To vedo ze desetletja. In kaj naj nardijo ?
Ah dej no, Hamas je na volitvah 2006 prejel prepričljivo večino glasov. Treba si bo priznat, da so si sami to izbrali.
Takrat hamas se ni bil tok militanten in je bla edina alternativa pa-ju, ki je ratal koruptiven in je samo za svojo rit skrbel.
Tudi HH ob izvolitvi še ni bil toliko militanten.
Tudi Hamas zdaj bolj ali manj samo za svojo rit skrbi. Kaj potem? Bomo na koncu res ugotovili, da so najbolj srečni tisti palestinci, ki so državljani Izraela? Bomo ugotovili, da je mogoče bolj pomembno kakšna filozofska načela nekdo zasleduje, kot pa kaj je po 'nacionalnosti'?
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