GeForce FX Not a home run...

to še ni splošno znano vendar Hercules ima resno v mislih vodno hlajenje za svojo R350 kartico v mislih. Kako bi stvar zgledala v praksi se lahko samo sprašujemo.

A pri vas pozimi nič ne kurite?
Ne vem no, kar vsi bi na centralno vodno vklopil.

kul je dat na vodo iz pipe... sam $$$$ pa stran metanje vode tut neki pomen :)

GeForce FX Reviews Wrong?


While we are still looking into this, it seems that the in-game screen shots posted on the Net yesterday showing off IQ produced by the GeForceFX 5800 Ultra are "wrong".

There is no doubt that we criticized the GFFX for its AntiAliasing, and now it seems that we may have not had the proper evidence to base our conclusions on. To quote ourselves from this page:

With NoAA you can see the aliasing is quite predominant. 2X AA and Quincunx don’t seem to do much on the GeForceFX visually, but the FPS are affected comparing the shots to the original with no AA enabled.

Of course all of this left us a bit puzzled, and wondering about the AA abilities of the drivers, but the "facts" are the fact correct?

We have been working with NVIDIA on this to get an answer and it seems that now we have the preliminary information to give us a bit more insight on the question.

The GeForceFX's technology applies filters that effect AntiAliasing and Anisotropic filtering before the frame buffer and after the frame has left the frame buffer. In short, this means that all of our screenshots do not accurately represent the true in-game visual quality that the GFFX can and will produce, as the screen shots were pulled from the frame buffer (in the "middle" of the AA process). We have come to conclusions about the GFFX IQ (Image Quality) that may be simply wrong.

While we cannot answer for other reviews of the GeForceFX it is very possible this is an issue with those articles as well, if they were in fact thorough enough to cover IQ.

We are currently working on a way to capture the images properly and will be revisiting the GeForceFX 5800 Preview by covering the IQ portion of our preview with proper screen shot comparison or further information addressing the truth surrounding this situation.

Certainly this is a huge issue it seems that NVIDIA was not even aware of when they issued us the review units. Having 48 hours to preview the card over Superbowl weekend compounded this, and while that is no excuse for improper evaluation on our part, it did certainly impact our ability to do a better evaluation. We are sorry for any incorrect evaluations we have made and are working now to remedy the situation. Any new information will be posted here on our news page.

Kyle, HOCP

kunglvik: a sploh veš kaj si pastal. Rajš še enkrat preber celo besedilo.

xbitlabs To pove na kratko vse.
" All in all, currently the GeForce FX cannot bring you anything special, unless you are a game developer, as I think."

Če bi biu bog bi spacal doom 3 v 6 dneh ne pa da sm pametuje kere grafično rabš za njegov nedokončan špil

Ja, mortal, če bi vse prebral... mea culpa.

Evo, kot sem govoril, retail GFFX kartice znajo imeti tudi druge hladilne metode. Recimo tole je slikic Quadro FX kartice, z dosti bolj normalnim hlajenjem


Tule pa đe press info nove Gainwardove kartice, ki uporablja nek zelo dodelan hladilni sistem, saj naj bi bil maximalni hrup omejen na samo 7db

Taipei - Hong Kong - Fremont - Munich – London – Malmö - Moscow – Feb. 1st, 2002. Gainward Co., Ltd, the leading manufacturer of high performance 3D graphics and home entertainment accelerators, announces that it will introduce the world’s most powerful series of 128MB 3D graphics processor boards based on NVIDIA’s GeForce FX 5800 technology. The most powerful graphics board of the series; the Gainward FX PowerPack! Model Ultra/1000 Plus “Golden Sample”TM features NVIDIA’s fastest GeForce FX 5800 Ultra and is priced at €649 incl. VAT (approx Ł449 UK SRP). The Gainward FX PowerPack! Model Ultra/800 Plus “Golden Sample”TM is based on the NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 priced at €549 incl. VAT (approx Ł389 UK SRP). The Gainward FX PowerPack! Model Ultra/1000 Plus “Golden Sample”TM takes the graphics environment to a completely new level. Running at 500 Plus MHz core clock speed and 1 GHz Plus DDR2 memory speed, the Gainward FX PowerPack! Model Ultra/1000 Plus “Golden Sample”TM is powered by pure adrenaline, delivering un-precedented 3D graphics performance to the PC platform. To further improve the versatility and gaming experience the Gainward FX PowerPack! Model Ultra/1000 Plus “Golden Sample”TM is bundled with a digital video-in IEEE 1394 FireWire daughter card, a high quality 5.1 sound card with both stereo output and optical SP/DIF output connectors, plus a variety of hot 3D games. All of Gainward’s FX PowerPack! products feature a radical new design of cooling system delivering maxi-mum performance and incredibly low noise levels. Owing to Gainward’s advanced R&D skills the maximum noise is reduced to only 7db, the same as a human heartbeat. Com-petetive products maximum noise levels can be rated as high as 70db the same level as a domestic vacuum cleaner.


Podobne ređitve bodo našli tudi drugi, samo naivneđ lahko pričakuje da bodo imele retail kartice zvok reaktivca.

Dva slota pomoje zato ker je cooler tako visok da se tako in tako ne bo dalo tlačit kartic v prvi slot (kar itak skoraj noben ne počne)
Še malo slikic:



Zgleda da je cooler tudi ni več bakren (črn anodiziran aluminij) , kot ti testni primerki 5800 ultre, kar pomeni da bo tudi dosti lažji.

No ja, ce bo v praksi tole delovalo dovolj tiho, bo mogoce se kaj s tote FX :).

Zgleda hudo, upam da bo v praksi tud. Vedno sem rekel da bom kupo atija pol pa zmer pr nvidiji pristanem

Uff, skoda gnara, da bi vsako generacijo na novo kupoval. Voodoo1 -> Voodoo3 -> GF4 Ti4200, naslednja bo verjetno kartica cez dve generaciji :).

osebno menjavljem grafične kartice pri samo večjih strojnih in kakšnih drugih spremembah pa četudi kupim 1 kartico na slovenskem tržišču.

Ati rage pro --->>creative G1 (ki še vedno odlično deluje razen greje se preveč)

Kaj je spet s to ceno 649 evrov????

Bi res rad videl hlajenje pri 7 db .....

How Gainward can make the card run as quiet as 7db knowing that heart beat is 10 db and rest of Nvidia partners will be from 60-70db remains mystery for now.

Mene tud zanima kako bojo to nardil oz. kje je "zanka"

Samo še večji naivnež lahko pričakuje 7db

Točno tako in cena kaže na to da so vzeli neko zelo eksotično zadevo. Mogoče je res celo vodni blok gor (res min možnost), samo še vedno je tu treba imet veliko površino za izmenjavo, druga še bolj verjetna možnost pa seveda heat pipe na dosti večjo površino kot jo ima original hlajenje (ki je btw zelo majhna in prav nič posebna) v tem primeru se pa da tudi tako vročo kartico ohladiti zelo tiho.
In _Mortal_ če je to Gainwardow uradno objavil, imajo verjetno že narejeno, stestirano in delujoče tudi pri omenjenih 7db

Šetole paše v cel mozaik.

Ja, malo bolj glasen je
Ni čudno da ima nVidia take probleme s 3Dmarkom2k3, če pa ne podpira multiteksuringa, potem pa deluje kot 4 pipelines 1MTU. Mogoče bo prišel kakšen patch, vsaj mogel bi, ker bo tudi R9800 imel 8pipelines 2MTU.

morphling1:

Se strinjam z zgoraj omenjenim, samo eno me moti: FX ni spet TOLKO boljši od R300 v 3DMarku 2k3... le za malo ga prehiti..

morph kako pa ves da ATI nima prostora za izboljsanje?

persona non grata je spet en hud komentar prbiu...
nejgovi totalno hudi argumenti so moje prejsnje uprasanje popolnoma izniclo...

Easy!