Kateri televizor?

Ok. Se zadnje vprasanje... teoreticno recimo da je budget cca 1000 eur. Kateri 40" in kateri 43" bi bil najbolj optimalen?

LG's B6 and C6 OLED TVs drop to lowest prices yet

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su...

Tomson ti si kralj za ks7000 tukaj, v čem je razlika med

https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/6416951/a...
https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/6249143/a...

Tomson je 1. nov 2016 ob 10:18 izjavil:

Mislim, da ceneje od 1.500€, kolikor je že bil 55B6 nekaj tednov nazaj v ITA ne bomo videli pred drugim letom, če sploh... Bo pa, upajmo, cena v SLO končno padla iz trenutnih 2.400€, a dvomim da bistveno pod 2.000€, z zamikom seveda, kot je v SLO že navada ...

Pomembno je, da cene padajo. Čez 2 meseca bodo predstavljeni novi modeli. Pričakujem, da z nižjimi začetnimi cenami od letošnjih. Čez 2 leti pa mogoče izenačene cene z LCDeji.

Čeprav po forumih (avs) pričakujejo višje 2017 cene.
Je pa kul, da se je oled po ceni praktično že izenačil z flagship samsungom.

v podjetju bomo nabavili full hd tv
iščemo najcenejši tv 58 ali 60"
tv bo služil kot digitalna informativna tabla in bo zamenjal cca 5 let starega lg

na ceneje.si sem našel ta dva:

SAMSUNG LED TV UE58J5202
https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/5478616/a...

SAMSUNG LED TV UE60J6202
https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/4993526/a...

je to dobra izbira oz ali se dobi še kje kaj cenejšega

hvala

LP

kumer je 1. nov 2016 ob 19:31 izjavil:

v podjetju bomo nabavili full hd tv
iščemo najcenejši tv 58 ali 60"
tv bo služil kot digitalna informativna tabla in bo zamenjal cca 5 let starega lg

na ceneje.si sem našel ta dva:

SAMSUNG LED TV UE58J5202
https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/5478616/a...

SAMSUNG LED TV UE60J6202
https://www.ceneje.si/Izdelek/4993526/a...

je to dobra izbira oz ali se dobi še kje kaj cenejšega

hvala

LP

Od omenjenih je še boljša opcija Samsung 60J6200 za 846€ ...

Še ceneje, pa sta edini ok opciji Samsung 58J5250 za 770€ in TLC 58S7806 za 750€ ..

Samsung J6200 je seveda najboljša, ne pa najcenejša opcija izmed naštetih ...

Mogoče v pomoč še tale "review" enega od kupcev LG B6 (lastnik že 2 meseca) iz AvForums, ki zelo lepo, iz stališča uporabnika opiše svoje ugotovitve ...

If like me you're looking to enter the world of serious home AV technology then you have certainly found the right TV to begin your journey!

The B6 was the first item in my multi-step upgrade plan, having scoured the battlefield that is a new TV purchase I'd come to the conclusion that OLED would be my display technology of choice, which with LG at the time being the only company with OLED sets led me to the OLED x6 line of TV's.

After deciding I didn't like the look of soundbar beneath the E6 & G6 sets and deciding 55" was my size choice I carefully considered which compromise to make - do I keep 3D but get a curved panel which I'm not a fan of (the C6) or lose 3D but stick with my preferred flat panel style (B6), the C6 didn't quite make the cut and after 2 months with the B6 here are my findings.

Design.
"That is TOO thin!" - That one sentence alone from my fiance gives a good idea of what to expect from the B6 design-wise! The upper portion of the panel is about the same in thickness as an iPhone 6, with the set thickening out towards the lower portion housing the TV's connections.

One thing that is worth mentioning (having upgraded from the LG ub850v) the side HDMI connections feel a little further back from the edge of the TV giving just enough room for HDMI cables to make the 90+ degree turn away from being on show.

In a strange move the power supply for the TV is hardwired into the TV rather than being an IEC cable which you can disconnect, this could cause problems for users looking to wall mount their TV; very odd move from LG here.

The design of the remote also feels a little lazy on LG's part in my opinion, the remote is shared between other 2016 models meaning the B6 remote has a button to active 3D despite not actually being a 3D panel! Additionally in a a bizarre move they've gotten rid of the info button!

Other than those minor issues the magic pointer functionality of the remote works an absolute treat, making web OS 3 a joy to navigate!

Now lets get down to the real important stuff...

Picture quality.
Out of the box I was absolutely stunned by the B6's picture quality, with this being my first OLED I immediately gave the Sin City BluRay a spin and was amazed, all this time I had been used to dark grey masquerading as black but not anymore, this is how dark scenes are supposed to look!

Couple this with the amazing colour pop and you are on to an absolute winner with this set, two months in and it still leaves my jaw on the floor from time to time!

Coming from edge-lit LED I was very nervous when it came time to watch a football match, but instead of an image plagued by horrible banding I was instead treated to motion perfect high quality football nirvana.

Out of the box ISF day/night settings along with the default HDR and Dolby Vision settings are pretty good and perfectly usable however they'll never be as good as getting a professional calibration done. For example prior to my pro-calibration the film grain added to Star Trek Into Darkness was far more noticeable than it should have been simply due to having incorrect settings. Once professionally calibrated this same film-grain was far more subtle and felt as intended, rather than overwhelming the picture.

One other point to consider is that this set will only ever be as good as the source material you feed it, the B6's excellent video processing will really highlight any faults or poor quality found in source material. For example The Revenant UHD BluRay in all its HDR glory will simply blow you away whereas on the flipside of that coin if you view a channel that broadcasts in severely compressed HD or SD it really won't look that good; but in this day and age who is really watching SD channels?

Also with the recent introduction of HDR gaming I'm sure many will be concerned with LAG input but having played both Forza Horizon 3 and the latest Deus Ex in HDR I would personally say this is a null point; I haven't noticed any LAG in HDR mode whatsoever! Many users are calling for a HDR Game Mode and while I'm sure it is something LG have in the pipeline, unless you're a serious competitive gamer I don't think the current lack of such a mode should put you off the B6.

Finally I feel I must address the infamous(?) UHD HDR BluRay stutter issue that many owners have been complaining about over the past couple of months. The latest firmware release (at the time of writing this review) not only resolves the issue but shows LG's dedication to customer service - LG reps actually visiting an AV forum members house to test a fix for the issue in a live environment, I do wonder how many other major TV manufacturers would go to such lengths when it comes to customer service; outstanding stuff from LG in my opinion!

Sound Quality.
I'm afraid I can't really comment much here, with me running the TV into a 5.1 system and before that a soundbar, I haven't really experienced the B6's built in sound capabilities all that much. The odd occasion I have used the built in speakers however, they have seemed sufficient but lacking those lower frequencies that really fill the body of the sound that only a sound bar or surround sound system can deliver.

Final Verdict.
If there was ever a time to dive into the latest in TV technology I would certainly say now is the time to do so, for the current price of the 55B6 you're getting a LOT of TV for your money and that is only going to become more of a true statement in the upcoming months with (hopefully) some great Black Friday, Christmas and January sale bargains to be had.

The outstanding picture quality that is able to dive into the deepest of blacks while then being able to soar to incredible brights in the blink of an eye coupled with it's gorgeous design and wealth of features/in-built apps make the LG 55B6v a real tough TV to compete with!

Kar sem se enim sodelavcem ravnokar poslal: After reading this user review, I just want to go and buy this OLED B6 thingy.

Mogoce komu v pomoc, kakor geizhals in ceneje.si je tudi italijanska stran na voljo za cekiranje razlik med cenami: http://www.trovaprezzi.it/

Se morebiti kaksna? Trenutno ne najdem modela pod cca 1,8k€. Za 55" omenjam. Sicer me pa prsti srbijo in ce najdem (verjetno sanjam) za nekje 2,5 - 2,8k 65" model, se odpravim ponj.

Tomson je 1. nov 2016 ob 21:14 izjavil:

Mogoče v pomoč še tale "review" enega od kupcev LG B6 (lastnik že 2 meseca) iz AvForums, ki zelo lepo, iz stališča uporabnika opiše svoje ugotovitve ...

If like me you're looking to enter the world of serious home AV technology then you have certainly found the right TV to begin your journey!

The B6 was the first item in my multi-step upgrade plan, having scoured the battlefield that is a new TV purchase I'd come to the conclusion that OLED would be my display technology of choice, which with LG at the time being the only company with OLED sets led me to the OLED x6 line of TV's.

After deciding I didn't like the look of soundbar beneath the E6 & G6 sets and deciding 55" was my size choice I carefully considered which compromise to make - do I keep 3D but get a curved panel which I'm not a fan of (the C6) or lose 3D but stick with my preferred flat panel style (B6), the C6 didn't quite make the cut and after 2 months with the B6 here are my findings.

Design.
"That is TOO thin!" - That one sentence alone from my fiance gives a good idea of what to expect from the B6 design-wise! The upper portion of the panel is about the same in thickness as an iPhone 6, with the set thickening out towards the lower portion housing the TV's connections.

One thing that is worth mentioning (having upgraded from the LG ub850v) the side HDMI connections feel a little further back from the edge of the TV giving just enough room for HDMI cables to make the 90+ degree turn away from being on show.

In a strange move the power supply for the TV is hardwired into the TV rather than being an IEC cable which you can disconnect, this could cause problems for users looking to wall mount their TV; very odd move from LG here.

The design of the remote also feels a little lazy on LG's part in my opinion, the remote is shared between other 2016 models meaning the B6 remote has a button to active 3D despite not actually being a 3D panel! Additionally in a a bizarre move they've gotten rid of the info button!

Other than those minor issues the magic pointer functionality of the remote works an absolute treat, making web OS 3 a joy to navigate!

Now lets get down to the real important stuff...

Picture quality.
Out of the box I was absolutely stunned by the B6's picture quality, with this being my first OLED I immediately gave the Sin City BluRay a spin and was amazed, all this time I had been used to dark grey masquerading as black but not anymore, this is how dark scenes are supposed to look!

Couple this with the amazing colour pop and you are on to an absolute winner with this set, two months in and it still leaves my jaw on the floor from time to time!

Coming from edge-lit LED I was very nervous when it came time to watch a football match, but instead of an image plagued by horrible banding I was instead treated to motion perfect high quality football nirvana.

Out of the box ISF day/night settings along with the default HDR and Dolby Vision settings are pretty good and perfectly usable however they'll never be as good as getting a professional calibration done. For example prior to my pro-calibration the film grain added to Star Trek Into Darkness was far more noticeable than it should have been simply due to having incorrect settings. Once professionally calibrated this same film-grain was far more subtle and felt as intended, rather than overwhelming the picture.

One other point to consider is that this set will only ever be as good as the source material you feed it, the B6's excellent video processing will really highlight any faults or poor quality found in source material. For example The Revenant UHD BluRay in all its HDR glory will simply blow you away whereas on the flipside of that coin if you view a channel that broadcasts in severely compressed HD or SD it really won't look that good; but in this day and age who is really watching SD channels?

Also with the recent introduction of HDR gaming I'm sure many will be concerned with LAG input but having played both Forza Horizon 3 and the latest Deus Ex in HDR I would personally say this is a null point; I haven't noticed any LAG in HDR mode whatsoever! Many users are calling for a HDR Game Mode and while I'm sure it is something LG have in the pipeline, unless you're a serious competitive gamer I don't think the current lack of such a mode should put you off the B6.

Finally I feel I must address the infamous(?) UHD HDR BluRay stutter issue that many owners have been complaining about over the past couple of months. The latest firmware release (at the time of writing this review) not only resolves the issue but shows LG's dedication to customer service - LG reps actually visiting an AV forum members house to test a fix for the issue in a live environment, I do wonder how many other major TV manufacturers would go to such lengths when it comes to customer service; outstanding stuff from LG in my opinion!

Sound Quality.
I'm afraid I can't really comment much here, with me running the TV into a 5.1 system and before that a soundbar, I haven't really experienced the B6's built in sound capabilities all that much. The odd occasion I have used the built in speakers however, they have seemed sufficient but lacking those lower frequencies that really fill the body of the sound that only a sound bar or surround sound system can deliver.

Final Verdict.
If there was ever a time to dive into the latest in TV technology I would certainly say now is the time to do so, for the current price of the 55B6 you're getting a LOT of TV for your money and that is only going to become more of a true statement in the upcoming months with (hopefully) some great Black Friday, Christmas and January sale bargains to be had.

The outstanding picture quality that is able to dive into the deepest of blacks while then being able to soar to incredible brights in the blink of an eye coupled with it's gorgeous design and wealth of features/in-built apps make the LG 55B6v a real tough TV to compete with!

bojanpo je 2. nov 2016 ob 09:37 izjavil:

Mogoce komu v pomoc, kakor geizhals in ceneje.si je tudi italijanska stran na voljo za cekiranje razlik med cenami: http://www.trovaprezzi.it/

Se morebiti kaksna?

Trovaprezzi je trenutno najmočnejša tovrstna opcija za Italijo, sicer pa imaš za večino evropskih držav na voljo še: LeGuide, PriceRunner, Idealo, Kelkoo, Twenga ... (samo dodaš končnico države)

Tale (Samsung UE40ES5500) je bil pred štirimi letni vstopni Smart TV, ki potrebuje za brezžični internet WiFi dongle (USB ključek). Ker nima premaza proti bleščanju (glossy panel), so barve bolj žive... 290 eur je malo pretirano, razen če je res kot nov in če rabiš Smart funkcije, ki so večinoma neuporabne. Edini plus proti 3 leta novejšemu UE40J5100 je možnost snemanja na HDD ali USB ključ.

Hvala fanta. Ne poznam tega modela, nisem vedel da je tako star (iz oglasa sodeč bi reku da ima par mesecev). Se strinjam z vama...

No ko smo ravno pri starih tv-jih, ali mogoče kdo pozna skrite servisne menije, da se vidi koliko ur je bil tv v uporabi.

ciao je 2. nov 2016 ob 14:39 izjavil:

Pozdravljeni

SAMSUNG LED TV UE60KU6000WXXH
Samsung UE60KU6072
LG 60UH605

Prosim za pomoč, Odločujem se med temi televizorji. LG je najcenejši, samsunga sta malenkost dražja. Katerega se najbolj splača vzeti.

Samsung serija KU 6 je kar boljša opcija od omenjenega LGja. Sicer pa sta KU6000 in KU6072 enaka, vzameš KU6072, ker je cenejši.

Lep pozdrav. Rabim tv do 270 eur, velikost 32. Bo ta ok?
https://www.mimovrste.com/led-lcd-tv-sp...

Je kdo kupil 65" UHD TV pri Hoferju ? Kakšne so izkušnje ?

Hvala, vseeno padla odločitev za večji tv. Kaj pa ta model?
https://www.mimovrste.com/led-lcd-tv-sp...

Še nekaj za vse, ki si želite LG-jev OLED TV za novo leto, ampak zanj niste pripravljeni odšteti več kot 1200 EUR:

LG 55EG910V OLED Full HD 3D curved TV je v Italiji na voljo za 1189 EUR.

Pred novim letom bo cena verjetno še padla, morda celo do 1000 EUR, tako da mi ta TV deluje kot zelo dobra alternativa B6 in LED TV-jem v cenovnem razredu 1200-2000 EUR, še posebej zaradi bolj kvalitetne slike gibanja (športa itd.), seveda v primeru, da vam UHD in HDR nista pomembna in vas ukrivljenost zaslona ne moti.

Priporočam ogled posnetka LG 55EG9100 OLED Live Demo and Review, ki bo pomanjkljivosti tega TV-ja, opisane v recenziji na rtings.com, prikazal v bolj realni luči.

Če si bil s TVjem v celoti zadovoljen mu daj še eno priložnost, omenjeni Sony je na marsikaterem področju korak nazaj. Presodi sam: Samsung vs Sony

V trgovini žal slika ne bo realna, vsaj kar se tiče prikaza črne barve, le ta pride do izraza, ko se v prostoru ugasnejo luči ...

UH850 in UH8507 sta enaka, gre le za drugo tržišče, zato razlike v ceni. Lahko je kakšna razlika v dodatnem tunerju, a po kvaliteti slike in splošni opremi ni razlik.

UH850 je dejansko eden najboljših IPS TVjev, UH770 je nekoliko slabši, predvsem zelo zaostaja pri uniformiranosti črne barve, čeprav gre v obeh primerih za IPS panel. Če gledaš TV v zatemnjenem prostoru je to kar pomembna razlika. UH850 je tudi boljši pri prikazovanju gibanja. (šport, hitri prehodi). Še ena velika razlika v prid UH850 je predvajanje 24p vsebin pa omeniti še velja zvok, ki je na UH850 boljši, Lahko si tudi sam prebereš primerjavo: UH770 vs UH850

Preko scarta pač ne moreš dobiti resolucije boljše kot 720×576 (če se ne motim), ne glede na to koliko pixlov ima nov tv. HDMI kabel bi naredil občutno razliko.
Kar se pa barv oz. same slike tiče se pa malce zakoplji v osnovne nastavitve, skoraj vsi tvji imajo po defaultu preveč kontrastno in presvetlo sliko ("prežgano").

@verakis

TUKAJ so tudi zelo dobre "calibration settings" za W80xC in kot rečeno, defenitivno presedlaj na HDMI ...

verakis je 5. nov 2016 ob 07:58 izjavil:

Prosim za pomoč - nabavil Sony KDL 50W808C v upanju, da bodo predvsem športni programi OK - na forumu omenjen kot zelo dobra izbira v rangu cca. 800€.
Slika je katastrofa - ali so potrebne kake posebne nastavitve (imam nast. na footbal...).
Pred tem bil na CRT ekranu, to je prva izkušnja z LCD. Zaenkrat še prikluček preko SCART na komunikator (AMIS).
Tudi drobni tisk (reklame) pvsem razmazan. Razdalja gledanja cca. 3m.

Zamenjaj za komunikator s HDMI. Če ga nimajo, zamenjaj operaterja .

verakis je 5. nov 2016 ob 07:58 izjavil:

Prosim za pomoč - nabavil Sony KDL 50W808C v upanju, da bodo predvsem športni programi OK - na forumu omenjen kot zelo dobra izbira v rangu cca. 800€.
Slika je katastrofa - ali so potrebne kake posebne nastavitve (imam nast. na footbal...).
Pred tem bil na CRT ekranu, to je prva izkušnja z LCD. Zaenkrat še prikluček preko SCART na komunikator (AMIS).
Tudi drobni tisk (reklame) pvsem razmazan. Razdalja gledanja cca. 3m.

Kaj pa pričakuješ preko ŠKART? 4K kvaliteto?