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Glasbeni izrazi v angleščini

Glasbeni izrazi v angleščini

Matthew ::

Jaz bi pa rabil pomoč pri prevajanju nekaterih glasbenih izrazov iz angleščine v slovenščino. Delam namreč seminarsko nalogo o glasbi. Za podlago imam nek angleški članek.

Če ima kdo kaj znanja, bi ga lepo prosil, da pomaga vsaj pri kakšnem izrazu.

- kako se po slovensko reče "snare drums"?
- kako bi vi prevedli besedo "band", če je njen pomen "a range of frequencies between two limits"?
- kako se prevede "pitch"?
- kaj naj bi v tem stavku pomenil "piece"? -> The set of notes on which the piece is built is defined as the key.
- ali "16 bars length" pomeni "dolžina 16 taktov"?
- kako se po slovensko reče "bridge" v pesmi? Kao bridge med kitico in refrenom.
- ali obstaja kakšen določen slovenski izraz za "melody contour"?

Že vnaprej ful hvala!

Matek ::

OK, jaz ne vem ravno dosti o glasbi, zato jemlji tole z rezervo :D :

- kako se po slovensko reče "snare drums"?
V zargonu drumla, drumlca, sicer pa ne vem. Mislim da je mali boben.

kako bi vi prevedli besedo "band", če je njen pomen "a range of frequencies between two limits"?
Morda razpon.

kaj naj bi v tem stavku pomenil "piece"? -> The set of notes on which the piece is built is defined as the key.
Hmm, pac pesem oz. komad? :>

kako se po slovensko reče "bridge" v pesmi? Kao bridge med kitico in refrenom.
Prehod?
Bolje ispasti glup nego iz aviona.

Looney ::

To vse je pitch.:D
Pitch
Pitch Pitch, n. [OE. pich, AS. pic, L. pix; akin to Gr. ?.]
1. A thick, black, lustrous, and sticky substance obtained by
boiling down tar. It is used in calking the seams of
ships; also in coating rope, canvas, wood, ironwork, etc.,
to preserve them.
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He that toucheth pitch shall be defiled therewith.
--Ecclus.
xiii. 1.
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2. (Geol.) See Pitchstone.
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Amboyna pitch, resin of Dammara australis. Kauri.

Burgundy pitch. under Burgundy.

Canada pitch, resinous exudation of the hemlock tree
({Abies Canadensis}); hemlock gum.

Jew's pitch, Mineral pitch. Bitumen and Asphalt.

Pitch coal bituminous coal.

Pitch peat a black homogeneous peat, with a waxy
luster.

Pitch pine any one of several species of pine,
yielding pitch, esp. the Pinus rigida North America.
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-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48

Pitch Pitch, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Pitched; p. pr. & vb. n.
Pitching.] [See Pitch, n.]
1. To cover over or smear with pitch. --Gen. vi. 14.
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2. Fig.: To darken; to blacken; to obscure.
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The welkin pitched with sullen could. --Addison.
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-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48

Pitch Pitch, v. t. [OE. picchen; akin to E. pick, pike.]
1. To throw, generally with a definite aim or purpose; to
cast; to hurl; to toss; as, to pitch quoits; to pitch hay;
to pitch a ball.
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2. To thrust or plant in the ground, as stakes or poles;
hence, to fix firmly, as by means of poles; to establish;
to arrange; as, to pitch a tent; to pitch a camp.
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3. To set, face, or pave with rubble or undressed stones, as
an embankment or a roadway. --Knight.
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4. To fix or set the tone of; as, to pitch a tune.
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5. To set or fix, as a price or value. [Obs.] --Shak.
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Pitched battle, general battle; a battle in which the
hostile forces have fixed positions; -- in distinction
from a skirmish.

To pitch into, attack; to assault; to abuse. [Slang]
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-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48

Pitch Pitch, v. i.
1. To fix or place a tent or temporary habitation; to encamp.
"Laban with his brethren pitched in the Mount of Gilead."
--Gen. xxxi. 25.
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2. To light; to settle; to come to rest from flight.
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The tree whereon they [the bees] pitch. --Mortimer.
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3. To fix one's choise; -- with on or upon.
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Pitch upon the best course of life, and custom will
render it the more easy. --Tillotson.
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4. To plunge or fall; esp., to fall forward; to decline or
slope; as, to pitch from a precipice; the vessel pitches
in a heavy sea; the field pitches toward the east.
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Pitch and pay, old aphorism which inculcates ready-money
payment, or payment on delivery of goods. --Shak.
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-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48

Pitch Pitch, n.
1. A throw; a toss; a cast, as of something from the hand;
as, a good pitch in quoits.
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Pitch and toss, game played by tossing up a coin, and
calling "Heads or tails;" hence:

To play pitch and toss with (anything), be careless or
trust to luck about it. "To play pitch and toss with the
property of the country." --G. Eliot.

Pitch farthing. Chuck farthing, 5th Chuck.
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2. (Cricket) That point of the ground on which the ball
pitches or lights when bowled.
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3. A point or peak; the extreme point or degree of elevation
or depression; hence, a limit or bound.
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Driven headlong from the pitch of heaven, down
Into this deep. --Milton.
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Enterprises of great pitch and moment. --Shak.
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To lowest pitch of abject fortune. --Milton.
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He lived when learning was at its highest pitch.
--Addison.
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The exact pitch, or limits, where temperance ends.
--Sharp.
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4. Height; stature. [Obs.] --Hudibras.
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5. A descent; a fall; a thrusting down.
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6. The point where a declivity begins; hence, the declivity
itself; a descending slope; the degree or rate of descent
or slope; slant; as, a steep pitch in the road; the pitch
of a roof.
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7. (Mus.) The relative acuteness or gravity of a tone,
determined by the number of vibrations which produce it;
the place of any tone upon a scale of high and low.
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Note: Musical tones with reference to absolute pitch, are
named after the first seven letters of the alphabet;
with reference to relative pitch, in a series of tones
called the scale, they are called one, two, three,
four, five, six, seven, eight. Eight is also one of a
new scale an octave higher, as one is eight of a scale
an octave lower.
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8. (Mining) The limit of ground set to a miner who receives a
share of the ore taken out.
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9. (Mech.)
(a) The distance from center to center of any two adjacent
teeth of gearing, measured on the pitch line; --
called also circular pitch.
(b) The length, measured along the axis, of a complete
turn of the thread of a screw, or of the helical lines
of the blades of a screw propeller.
(c) The distance between the centers of holes, as of rivet
holes in boiler plates.
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10. (Elec.) The distance between symmetrically arranged or
corresponding parts of an armature, measured along a
line, called the pitch line, drawn around its length.
Sometimes half of this distance is called the pitch.

Concert pitch the standard of pitch used by
orchestras, as in concerts, etc.

Diametral pitch the distance which bears the
same relation to the pitch proper, or circular pitch, that
the diameter of a circle bears to its circumference; it is
sometimes described by the number expressing the quotient
obtained by dividing the number of teeth in a wheel by the
diameter of its pitch circle in inches; as, 4 pitch, 8
pitch, etc.

Pitch chain, chain, as one made of metallic plates,
adapted for working with a sprocket wheel.

Pitch line, Pitch circle an ideal line, in
a toothed gear or rack, bearing such a relation to a
corresponding line in another gear, with which the former
works, that the two lines will have a common velocity as
in rolling contact; it usually cuts the teeth at about the
middle of their height, and, in a circular gear, is a
circle concentric with the axis of the gear; the line, or
circle, on which the pitch of teeth is measured.

Pitch of a roof the inclination or slope of the
sides expressed by the height in parts of the span; as,
one half pitch; whole pitch; or by the height in parts of
the half span, especially among engineers; or by degrees,
as a pitch of 30[deg], of 45[deg], etc.; or by the rise
and run, that is, the ratio of the height to the half
span; as, a pitch of six rise to ten run. Equilateral
pitch is where the two sloping sides with the span form an
equilateral triangle.

Pitch of a plane the slant of the cutting iron.

Pitch of poles the distance between a pair of
poles of opposite sign.

Pitch pipe, wind instrument used by choristers in
regulating the pitch of a tune.

Pitch point the point of contact of the pitch
lines of two gears, or of a rack and pinion, which work
together.
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-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48

Dip Dip, n.
1. The action of dipping or plunging for a moment into a
liquid. "The dip of oars in unison." --Glover.
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2. Inclination downward; direction below a horizontal line;
slope; pitch.
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3. a hollow or depression in a surface, especially in the
ground.
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4. A liquid, as a sauce or gravy, served at table with a
ladle or spoon. [Local, U.S.] --Bartlett.
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5. A dipped candle. [Colloq.] --Marryat.
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6. A gymnastic exercise on the parallel bars in which the
performer, resting on his hands, lets his arms bend and
his body sink until his chin is level with the bars, and
then raises himself by straightening his arms.
[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

7. In the turpentine industry, the viscid exudation, which is
dipped out from incisions in the trees; as, virgin dip
(the runnings of the first year), yellow dip (the runnings
of subsequent years).
[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

8. (A["e]ronautics) A sudden drop followed by a climb,
usually to avoid obstacles or as the result of getting
into an airhole.
[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

9. a liquid, in which objects are soaked by dipping; e.g., a
parasiticide or insecticide solution into which animals
are dipped (see sheep-dip).
[PJC]

10. a sauce into which foods are dipped to enhance the
flavor; e. g., an onion dip from sour cream and
dried onions, into which potato chips are dipped.
[PJC]

11. a pickpocket. [slang]
[PJC]

Dip of the horizon the angular depression of the
seen or visible horizon below the true or natural horizon;
the angle at the eye of an observer between a horizontal
line and a tangent drawn from the eye to the surface of
the ocean.

Dip of the needle, Magnetic dip, angle formed, in
a vertical plane, by a freely suspended magnetic needle,
or the line of magnetic force, with a horizontal line; --
called also inclination.

Dip of a stratum its greatest angle of inclination
to the horizon, or that of a line perpendicular to its
direction or strike; -- called also the pitch.
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-- From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48

pitch
n 1: the property of sound that varies with variation in the
frequency of vibration
2: (baseball) the throwing of a baseball by a pitcher to a
batter [syn: delivery]
3: a vendor's position (especially on the sidewalk); "he was
employed to see that his paper's news pitches were not
trespassed upon by rival vendors"
4: promotion by means of an argument and demonstration [syn: sales
talk, pitch}]
5: degree of deviation from a horizontal plane; "the roof had a
steep pitch" [syn: rake, slant]
6: any of various dark heavy viscid substances obtained as a
residue [syn: tar]
7: a high approach shot in golf [syn: pitch shot]
8: an all-fours game in which the first card led is a trump
[syn: auction pitch]
9: abrupt up-and-down motion (as caused by a ship or other
conveyance); "the pitching and tossing was quite exciting"
[syn: lurch, pitching]
10: the action or manner of throwing something; "his pitch fell
short and his hat landed on the floor"
v 1: throw or toss with a light motion; "flip me the beachball";
"toss me newspaper" [syn: flip, toss, sky]
2: move abruptly; "The ship suddenly lurched to the left" [syn:
lurch, shift]
3: fall or plunge forward; "She pitched over the railing of the
balcony"
4: set to a certain pitch; "He pitched his voice very low"
5: sell or offer for sale from place to place [syn: peddle, monger,
huckster, hawk, vend]
6: be at an angle; "The terrain sloped down" [syn: slope, incline]
7: heel over; "The tower is tilting"; "The ceiling is slanting"
[syn: cant, cant over, slant]
8: erect and fasten; "pitch a tent" [syn: set up]
9: throw or hurl from the mound to the batter, as in baseball;
"The pitcher delivered the ball" [syn: deliver]
10: hit (a golf ball) in a high arc with a backspin
11: lead (a card) and establish the trump suit
12: set the level or character of; "She pitched her speech to
the teenagers in the audience" [syn: gear]

-- From WordNet (r) 2.0

482 Moby Thesaurus words for "pitch":
AF, French pitch, abuse, acme, address, after-dinner speech,
allocution, amount, angularity, apex, apogee, ascend, asphalt,
assail, assault, assist, attack, audio frequency, ballyhoo, bank,
base, belabor, belly buster, belly flop, belly whopper, bevel,
bezel, bitumen, bivouac, blunder, bob, bobble, bowl, brow,
buck off, build, build in, bung, caliber, camp, camp out,
cannonball, cant, cap, capsize, careen, career, cascade, cast,
cast up, catapult, cataract, chalk talk, change of pace, change-up,
charcoal, chip in, choose, chuck, chunk, chute, classical pitch,
climax, climb, cloud nine, coal, coggle, collapse, come a cropper,
come down, compass, contribute, cooperate, crash, crash dive,
crest, crow, crown, culmen, culmination, curve, cut, dangle, dart,
dash, debate, declamation, decline, degree, depth, descend,
determine, diatribe, dip, dip down, dive, down, downcurve,
drive stakes, drop, drop down, drop off, easy slope, ebon, ebony,
edge, elect, elevate, encamp, erect, establish, eulogy,
exhortation, extent, extreme limit, extremity, fall, fall away,
fall down, fall flat, fall headlong, fall off, fall over,
fall prostrate, falter, fastball, filibuster, fire, fix, fleam,
fling, flip, flounce, flounder, fluctuate, flutter, forensic,
forensic address, fork, formal speech, forward pass, found,
frequency, fundamental, fundamental tone, funeral oration, gainer,
gentle slope, get a cropper, glacis, go camping, go down,
go downhill, go uphill, grade, gradient, gravitate, ground,
hanging gardens, harangue, harmonic, header, heave, heaven,
heavens, height, helicline, help, high noon, high pitch,
highest pitch, highest point, hillside, hobbyhorse, hoist,
hortatory address, hurl, hurtle, inaugural, inaugural address,
inclination, incline, inclined plane, incurve, inflection, ink,
install, interval, intonation, intonation pattern, invective,
invest, jackknife, jeremiad, jerk, jet, jump on, keel, key,
knuckleball, labor, lance, lash out at, lateral, lateral pass,
launch, launching ramp, lay into, lay the foundation, lean,
leaning, leaning tower, leap, let fly, level, librate, lift up,
light into, limit, list, lob, lose altitude, low pitch, lurch,
make heavy weather, mark, maximum, measure, meridian, modulation,
monotone, monotony, mountaintop, move, name, ne plus ultra,
new philharmonic pitch, night, no place higher, nominate, noon,
nose dive, nose-dive, notch, note, nuance, nutate, opt for,
oration, oscillate, outcurve, overtone, parachute, parachute jump,
partial, partial tone, pas, pass, patter, peak, peg, pelt,
pendulate, pep talk, period, peroration, persuasion,
philharmonic pitch, philippic, philosophical pitch, pick, pinnacle,
pitch accent, pitch and plunge, pitch and toss, pitch camp,
pitch in, pitch into, pitchfork, pitchpole, place, plane, plant,
plateau, plop, plummet, plump, plunge, plunk, point, pole,
position, pounce, pounce on, pounce upon, pound, pour down,
power dive, precipitate, prepared speech, prepared text,
proportion, public speech, put, put in, put the shot, put up, rain,
raise, raise aloft, raise up, rake, ramp, range, ratio, raven,
reach, reading, rear, rear aloft, recital, recitation, reel,
register, remove, resonate, retreat, ridge, rise, rock, roll,
rough it, round, rung, running dive, sail into, sales pitch,
sales talk, salutatory, salutatory address, say, scale, scarp,
scend, scope, screed, screwball, seat, seethe, select, send, serve,
service, set, set speech, set up, set upon, seventh heaven, shade,
shadow, shake, shelve, shelving beach, shoot, shot-put, shy, side,
sidle, sinker, skin-dive, sky, sky dive, sky-dive, slant,
sleep out, slider, sling, sloe, slope, smoke, smut, snap,
song and dance, soot, sound, space, speech, speech tune,
speechification, speeching, spiel, spire, spitball, spitter,
sprawl, spread-eagle, stagger, stair, stand upright, standard,
standard pitch, stationary dive, steep slope, step, stiff climb,
stint, stoop, struggle, stumble, summit, suprasegmental, swag,
swan dive, sway, swing, swoop, swoop down, take a fall,
take a header, take a pratfall, talk, talkathon, talus, tar, tent,
thrash about, throw, tilt, tip, tip-top, tirade, tonality, tone,
tonelessness, top, topple, topple down, topple over, toss,
toss and tumble, toss and turn, totter, tower of Pisa, tread,
trend downward, trip, tumble, tune, turn turtle, unhorse, unseat,
upcurve, upend, upheave, uplift, upmost, upper extremity,
uppermost, upraise, uprear, upright, uprise, utmost, vacillate,
valediction, valedictory, valedictory address, vertex, very top,
vest, vibrate, volutation, wag, waggle, wallop, wallow, wave,
waver, welter, wobble, yaw, zenith



-- From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0

Pitch
(Gen. 6:14), asphalt or bitumen in its soft state, called
"slime" (Gen. 11:3; 14:10; Ex. 2:3), found in pits near the Dead
Sea (q.v.). It was used for various purposes, as the coating of
the outside of vessels and in building. Allusion is made in Isa.
34:9 to its inflammable character. (See SLIME.)


-- From Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary
"#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) - Shakespeare."

pivo ::

snare je pač snare - pravilno mali boben, v žargonu pa "verbl"
band - bi tud js prevedu frekvenčni razpon
bridge boš težko prevedel kar "most" - pač del pesmi, jbg nima slovenščina izraze za vse
za ostalo pa nisem ziher
žiulenje ni potica...pa tut testu za štrudl ne

A. Smith ::

>>>Pitch:
Iz Looney-inih, zagotovo z zrazlogom tako izdatno zbranih prevodov, bi prišel v poštev tale:
4. To fix or set the tone of; as, to pitch a tune.
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"high pitched voice" je naprimer pri heavy metal pevcih. Barva glasu? Ostalo ugotovi iz konteksta.

>>>Bridge ->most->premostitev?

>>>Melody contour - bi najbrž še najbolj ustrezalo "potek, razvoj" melodije.

>>>The set of notes on which the piece is built is defined as the key.

Piece v tem primeru pomeni skladbo ali del nje. "Key" je pa, če se ne motim, motiv?
"Be professional, be polite,
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis

Looney ::

Am a ne bi bil to lahko kar ključ?:|
"#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) - Shakespeare."

A. Smith ::

Hm, se posipam s pepelom. Sploh nisem pomislil na to :D
"Be professional, be polite,
but have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
- General James Mattis

Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenil: A. Smith ()

Ejsi_Disi ::

Bridge je prehod.
Rock n' roll ain't noise pollution!

slatko ::

- kako se po slovensko reče "snare drums"?

Sicer je smešno, ampak vleikokrat se uporablja kar izraz solo boben.


- kako bi vi prevedli besedo "band", če je njen pomen "a range of frequencies between two limits"?

frekvenčni razpon

- kako se prevede "pitch"?

odvisno od konteksta v katerem je izraz uporabljen, ponavadi pich/ključ v katerem je komad.

- ali "16 bars length" pomeni "dolžina 16 taktov"?

16 taktov.

- kako se po slovensko reče "bridge" v pesmi? Kao bridge med kitico in refrenom.

mogoče je prehod malo neroden izraz, ker se ponavadi uporablje pri bobnih, mogoče bi bil bolj primeren izraz prehoden del pesmi (povezava med refrenom in solotom recimo...)

moj_nick ::

>Am a ne bi bil to lahko kar ključ?:|

Ključu se reče clef (treble & bass)

Pitchu bi jaz rekel intonacija - lahko imaš 440Hz, 442Hz itd.
Snare drum je zagotovo mali boben.
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Looney ::

Kjuč je lahko key ali clef.
"#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) - Shakespeare."

madmitch ::

Pitch, hmmm, na Technics gramofonih je (bil) pitch control, s katerim si uravnaval hitrost vrtenja in s tem plošče.
Nobody is perfect, my name is Nob Ody

moj_nick ::

>Kjuč je lahko key ali clef.

Ključ je clef, intonacija pa key. Od kod se ti zdi, da bi key lahko bil ključ? V kontekstu glasbe, seveda ;)
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Zgodovina sprememb…

  • spremenil: moj_nick ()

Looney ::

Wuuhuu... my bad... šele zdaj opazila kako neumnost sem napisala.:8) Key pa tudi ni intonacija ampak tonaliteta!;)
"#define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) - Shakespeare."

bMozart ::

Ang-Slo Dic.
pitch:
music
višina tona, uglašenost(glasbila) !
Ta bo še najbolj prav;)

Sem skoraj cel Guitar Method prevedel:)
Imaš odprte 3 različne slovarje, pa ko se ulavfaš kr gre;)
I NEED The Point of View Gun effectible on girls too! And then...

urosz ::

omg ne se brukat, PITCH je hitrost predvajanja, tak kot je en prej napisu za gramofone k je pitch gor.. rihtaš hitrost predvajanja pesmi / višaš oz nižaž število udarcev na minuto

moj_nick ::

Pitch ni povezan s številom udarcev (dob) na minuto, ampak pomeni intonacijo, kot smo že poprej ugotovili. Na gramofonih je pa zato napisano pitch, ker sprememba pitcha na gramofonu praktično pomeni spremembo intonacije, kar je seveda narobe. Moralo bi pisati speed, ne pa pitch, je pa res, da vsak najprej opazi, da se je frekvenca zvoka spremenila, ne pa hitrost predvajanja pesmi. Nikakor pa ne moremo reči, da zato ker piše na gramofonih pitch in pomenijo za nas Slovence oznake 33, 45 in 78 hitrost vrtenja vinilke, pomeni pitch hitrost predvajanja.
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embe ::

snare je mrežica na spodji opni
frekvenčni PAS
pitch je fiziol.psihol. dojemanje intonacije, višine tona, zlitje frkvenc v en "zvok"
v tem primeru je set material,grajena je pa kompozicija
16 taktna fraza
bridge-poskusi najt pri sonatni obliki
linija
toje to


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