Bo po novem splav treba plačati?

Razcep iz sproščene teme v Loži, oziroma nova strategija pospeševalcev rodnosti.

prvo pametno dejanje nove vlade... zakaj bi drug folk mogu plačevt za njihove "napake"

Ne gre za varčevalni ukrep, ker je zadeva predstavljena v okviru strategije večje rodnosti. Če omeniš besedno zvezo plačevat, fališ v polno. Sej je simpl. Govort je treba o domu, družini in osnovni celici družbe (začenši s fetusom, jap).

Če bi se vsaj spravil dela PR kampanijo zaradi cene, ne, ti lojzeti gredo direkt na rodnost. Ne moreš plačat? Jebiga, boš pa mama!

Končna projekcija: še več samohranilskih mater.

Lahko pa vidim tiste , ki so prej čeljustali o pro-life, kako jim gode. Še posebej zabavno, ker oni bi eetaq imeli.

Kako bi nasprotniki splava recimo komentirali ta primer po novem zakonu (samo fiktiven):

Npr. 15, 16 letnica zanosi po nesreči ali nepazljivosti (nepomembno) in želi narediti splav, saj si ne more privoščiti, da bi pustila šolanje in nima še primerne izobrazbe za zaposlitev. Splava zastonj ji ne odobrijo, torej pomeni da mora plačati 80.000 SIT.
Ker nima denarja za to, ali pa ji starši nočejo plačati, ali pa ne morejo, se odloči da bo splav naredil ilegalno za recimo 20.000.
Pri tem posegu pride do poškodb njenih rodil in ne more več imeti otrok do konca življanja.

Hm, na tak način bomo povečali rodnost, kajneda?

edit: typos

@Stajler & jype: Torej ce si nemores privosciti splava(zaradi taksnega ali drugacnega razloga(ponavadi po neumnosti)) potem si ne mores privosciti sexa(brez kontracepcije). Easy as that.

already written:
Se je zgodilo prijateljici da je zanosila ob kombinaciji kondom+jutranja tabletka(kondom počil), pa je tabletko vzela po manj kot 10urah.

@koyotee: torej priznavaš da je v takem primeru splav dopustljiv?

Razkošja, da bi spet imeli "normalno demografsko piramido", kot je imajo recimo Cigani ali Arabci, ne bo.

Sploh ne na ljubo našim politikom, zavarovalničarjem, delodajalcem in ne vem komu še vse.

Ljudje se pač odločajo za vse manj otrok, prelisičijo naravo, nataliteta pada.

Sooči se s tem! Who the fuck si ti, da boš govoril, kako naj nas bo vse več. Sploh še, ker boš v isti sapi stokal, "kako onesnažujemo okolje".

Po eni strani hočejo "trajnostni razvoj", po drugi strani naraščanje prebivalstva. Komu na čast? Delodajalcem, ki niso sposbni avtomatizirati proizvodnje? Tistim luzerjem od pokojninskega, ki si ne predstavljajo večje produktivnosti in vsaj iz tega naslova več prispevkov?

Drobnič je verjetno desničarski butelj. Pa ne zaradi te teme, ker je itak 80 jurjev malenkost v primeri s tem, da si potisnjena v situacijo, delat splav.

Drobnič je butelj po drugih, tukaj off topic linijah.

@koyotee: pa vseeno obstajajo, in v takem primeru nikakor ne moreš zanemariti tega promila. Sicer pa poznam več primerov strgan kondom kot pa brez kondoma.

Ker sem svoje mnenje do najnovejših genialnih predlogov "desničarskih butljev" že podal v sorodni temi, samo nekaj provokativnih transkribiranih citatov za zabavo

"Doesn't it strike you as mildly ironic that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't wanna f*ck in the first place?!"

"...they're not pro-life, you know what they are? They're anti-woman!"

"You don't see any of these white anti-abortion women volounteering to have any black fetuses transplanted into their uteruses, do you? No, you don't see them adopting a lot of crack babies, do you? No, that might be something Christ would do..."

"Here's another question I have - How come when it's us, it's an abortion, and when it's a chicken, it's an omlette?!"

"Now, is a fetus a human being? This seems to be the central question. Well, if a fetus is a human being, how come the census doesn't count them? If a fetus is a human being, how come when there's a miscarriage they don't have a funeral? If a fetus is a human being how come people say "We have two children and one on the way" instad of saying "We have three children"? People say life begins at conception, I say life began about a billion years ago and it's a continuous process... Just looking for a little consistency in these anti-abortion arguments."

"See, the really hardcore people will tell you life begins at fertilization, when the sperm fertilizes the egg, which is usually a few moments after the man says "Gee honey, I was gonna pull out but the phone rang and it startled me!". But even after the egg is fertilized, it's still six or seven days before it reaches the uterus and pregnancy begins, and not every egg makes it that far. 80% of a woman's fertilized eggs are wrinced and flushed out of a woman's body once a month during those delightful few days she has... So basically what these anti-abortion people are telling us, is that any woman who's had more than one period, is a serial killer! Consistency!"

"Not every ejaculation deserves a name!"

"Speaking of consistency. Catholics, which I was, untill I reached the age of reason, Catholics, and other Christians are against abortions and they're against homosexuals. Well who has less abortions than homosexuals?! ... Here is an entire class of people guaranteed never to have an abortion! And the Catholics and Christians are just tossing them aside, you'd think they'd make natural allies!"

"... in the meantime what they ought to be doing is telling these priests who took a vow of chastity to keep their hands off the altar boys! Keep your hands to yourself Father, you know? When Jesus said "Suffer the little children come on to me" that's not what he was talking about! So you know what I tell these anti-abortion people? I say "Hey, hey! If you think a fetus is more important than a woman, try getting a fetus to wash the shit stains out of your underwear. For no pay and no pension."

(George Carlin)

LOL, Thomas. Saj je prav, da pokomentiraš, ampak teli citati res niso bili mišljeni kot argumenti. Človek je komedijant, for Christ's sake Sicer si običajno tega ne bi privoščil, ampak tole je Loža in ne Problemi človeštva.

@koyotee: če sta se s punco tako odločila, kul, ampak to mene ne zanima. Enako kot tebe ne (sme) zanimati, kako sva se odločila z mojo. Pizda, je to tko zajeban razumet?

V tem trenutku imaš na razpolago vse opcije in kaj boš storil se odločiš na podlagi lastne odločitve in pameti ali tuje modrosti (cerkev, shoping center...).

Fuck me. Tale gre down, bom pa dal link tja.