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WarpedGone je 15. okt 2019 ob 10:56 izjavil:

Le da gre ta ista Tesla bolje v ovinek kot BMW M3... kaj pa sedaj?

WarpedGone je 15. okt 2019 ob 10:56 izjavil:

Primerjava med avtom, ki ga še ne morš kupt in avtom, ki ga ne moreš več kupt - ker ga ne deljajo več, trenutno delajo boljše stvari.

Kaj želiš pokazat s tem? Da je neki kar prihaja, boljše od tistega kar je bilo?

WarpedGone je 15. okt 2019 ob 11:17 izjavil:

Cr00k je 15. okt 2019 ob 10:59 izjavil:

WarpedGone je 15. okt 2019 ob 10:56 izjavil:

Le da gre ta ista Tesla bolje v ovinek kot BMW M3... kaj pa sedaj?

Pa ti dejansko verjameš to kar pišeš, al sam trolaš ke imaš čas? :)

Nisi pa pomislu, da mogoče ne veš vsega? Seveda ne ...

Ena random primerjava Tesla M3P proti BMW M3
In še šitload drugih, z enakim zaključkom: Tesla M3 Performance is king, BMW M3 pa je boljši za risanje krogov po parkirplacu.

pol sekunde do 100 gor/dol za RL uporabo je brezpredmetno.

Ko si slabši v X, je X seveda brezpredmeten... zakaj torej so v Taycana tlačli menjalnik?
Da je brezpredmeten test manj sramoten?

Taycan je fajn samo, dokler si ga ne lastiš.
Potem te je sram, se na cesti v njem pokazat, ker te bo sosedov mulc z butastim amerom osramotil ko zajca.

From the first corner, the M3 feels less tied down, more up on its toes – unnerving at first, but then you realise you can lean on the front end harder, work the brakes later, and flick it around in places where the porky Tesla demands patience.

IL_DIAVOLO je 15. okt 2019 ob 12:02 izjavil:

Jaz sicer ne oporekam tesli performance, ker kar se performance/range tiče je to top avto. Ampak drugače pa nič posebnega, kar se tiče notranjosti, vse je tako brez duše.

Recimo peugeot 508 je tako lep da samo gledas in se cudis. Vem ICE, ampak je v istem cenovnem rangu in je limuzina.

Tesla? Meh

To pomeni, da tvoj "up to 600km" avto zmore max 300km po AC, v praksi kvečjemu 225km AC(90%-10%). V avtu za 60k€???

Porsche ima vse več zaslužka in ne dela izgube z nobenim modelom,

Gregor P je 15. okt 2019 ob 12:50 izjavil:

Tukaj so septembra nekaj na Bloombergu ugibal The Porsche 911 Is the Most Profitable Car of 2019

The most profitable car launched in the past year was not a Tesla. Nor was it some crazy hypercar.

It was the new Porsche 911.

"There's no issue there," he says. "Porsche is ahead of the game."

In an interview with Bloomberg TV, Porsche chairman Oliver Blume said the Taycan will eventually will generate a "good margin," especially in the top-end versions, although returns won't be as high as for other models. Dean pegs 2023 at the point it will turn a profit, by which time battery prices will have declined significantly; in the meantime, Porsche pushing its higher-margin "Turbo" version first is a smart strategy.

Porsche's revenue from FY 2010 to FY 2018

BigWhale je 15. okt 2019 ob 13:03 izjavil:

Sploh, ce vse prodajo.

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Since July, Tesla has been parking anywhere from a couple of dozen to a few hundred cars at a lot in Burbank, Calif. In Lathrop, 70 miles east of San Francisco, Tesla has as many as 400 cars at an industrial site. A similar number turned up outside an industrial building nearby. At times cars have been seen entering and leaving the building, suggesting it may be a collection point or repair center.
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Mike Ramsey, an auto analyst at Gartner, said he surmised that Tesla, in some cases, was simply gathering cars together before shipping them to customers, or bringing cars with defects together to repair them before delivery.

If so, that suggests Tesla failed in a critical task: It didn’t set up an efficient way of delivering hundreds of cars a day as it was scrambling to produce 5,000 a week. “How can you not have this in place beforehand?” Mr. Ramsey said. “It’s not like this is unexpected demand. They should have had logistics in place in advance.”
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A more worrisome problem would be if Tesla built these cars and now doesn’t have customers willing to take them.
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Brian Johnson, an analyst at Barclays Capital who follows Tesla, said he suspected that the company had a mismatch between inventory and demand — that it had built more rear-wheel drive Model 3s than it could sell. He noted that Tesla was telling customers that it could deliver rear-wheel drive models in four weeks but that all-wheel-drive and pricier versions require waits of four to 12 months.

“That suggests there is unmatched rear-wheel-drive inventory,” he said.
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In some cases, cars have been marked — with a bar-coded sticker or with grease pencil on the windshield — to indicate that they are inventory vehicles, meaning they have no customers awaiting them. Some markings indicate repairs required before the cars can be sold, like scratches, dents or components that don’t work.
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Over the summer, Tesla advertised online for technicians to repair vehicles coming off the assembly line, suggesting that a significant number needed reworking.

That may dovetail with a new headache that has cropped up: severe shortages of replacement parts. Some owners needing collision repairs have complained of waiting a month or longer for new bumpers, centers, door panels and taillights to arrive.
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The long wait for parts suggests that Tesla has none or very few on hand. “To me, that shows a company in financial crisis,” Mr. Hoffman said.

In most cases, reliability issues will undermine satisfaction," Fisher adds. "But when a vehicle has an enthusiastic following, like with Tesla, owners may overlook some issues. We've seen this with other vehicles such as the Jeep Wrangler and Chevrolet Corvette.

BigWhale je 15. okt 2019 ob 13:03 izjavil:

Ok, a bi mogoce ze lahk nehal s to nezmoznostjo masovne proizvodnje za Teslo? Dokler so stancal 1000 avtov na teden je blo to se res, zdej pa jih spravijo ven, kolk, 7000 na teden? To je 350.000 avtov letno in to ni vec stevilka, ki bi bla tko mejhna. Sploh, ce vse prodajo.

Mikrohard je 15. okt 2019 ob 13:16 izjavil:

2.) Tesla 3 je trenutno najboljši EV. Srečen? Ni pa najboljši avto. Nesrečen?

Kup telovadbe in PR nabijanja, pod črto pa avto, ki je neuporabn za karkoli razen bahanja pred sosedi.