venetska teorija

Kaj si mislite o t.i. venetski teoriji?

Ta teorija pravi, da je še pred prihodom starih ljudstev (Grki, Kelti, Iliri, Etruščani...) na ozemlju od Male Azije do Britanije živelo ljudstvo Venetov.

V prid teorije kažejo:
- številna imena krajev, ki imajo ali so imela koren ven-, vend-, vind- , ene-, hene-;
- ostanki v jezikih bolj ali manj vseh jezikovnih skupin Evrope;
- starodavni runski napisi, ki jih v zelo podobni obliki najdemo povsod na tem območju;
- številne situle, najdene po Evropi s podobnimi motivi;
- ostanki starodavne religije, pri kateri se goji kult štiri ali troglavih božanstev;





Vir slik: www.veneti.info

Na zgornji povezavi so zbrana številna dejstva, članki in teorije.

Moje mnenje: morda je kaj na tem, čeprav se mi zdi zelo za lase privlečeno, da so prav Slovenci potomci Venetov. Lahko pa da je nekje v bronasti ali pa železni dobi na območju Evrope živelo kakšno staro ljudstvo, ki je že skoraj potonilo v pozabo (oz. bilo izvrženo iz šolskega sistema ). Nekatera dejstva so prav osupljiva.

Ja, osupljivo je, da imajo povsod Vandale

Malo za hec (mogoče pa niti ne).

Članek, ki omeni tudi povezavo venetov z etruščani in iliri.

Ampak s Slovenci pa nimajo nobene povezave. To je samo blodnja tistih, ki se sramujejo slovanskih korenin in potem z nekimi čudnimi idejami hočejo pokazati na večvrednost slovenske rase.

Se podpišem pod tale post.

Sicer pa, preberi komentarje v ne tako stari temi.

Kake 2 tedna nazaj je bil pri "Studio ob sedemnajstih" objavljen intervju z nekim zgodovinarjem. Eno izmed vprašanj je bla tut tale 'venetska teorija'. Povzemam po spominu:

Veneti niso noben narod. Pač pa neko ime za plemena, ki so takrat živela na tem prostoru. Kolk so imeli skupnega med sabo je anybody's guess. Trditi, da smo ravno mi njihovi potomci, je približno tko narobe, kot trditi na nismo. Ob preseljevanju narodov, so se ti večinoma pomešali s prejšnjim prebivalstvom (kolikor jih pač niso pobili). Vprašanje je le, katero kulturo so prevzeli - so vztrajali pri svoji, al so prevzemali navad prejšnjih prebivalcev. Zanimivo je, da je baje slovanska kultura bla precej 'zanimiva', in se je prijemala - ter izpodrivala starejše zadeve. Zakaj je temu tako, se tut ne ve.

Thomas: a imaš kak link, kjer je opisano kako opravljajo te DNA raziskave? A to slučajno delajo tako, da izberejo par ljudi, jim vzamejo brise in potem primerjajo vzorce?

Tele DNA raziskave znajo IMO kar lepo pretresti veljavne zgodovinske dogme. Danes se bolj zagrizeni "zgodovinarji" nalanjajo na ostanke starih ljudstev v imenih krajev, jeziku in morda še čem, tele DNA raziskave pa bodo dale iMO zelo trdno stoječe podatke.

Evo linka!

Short Haplogroup Definitions:

Haplogroup B is one of the oldest Y-chromosome lineages
in humans. Haplogroup B is found exclusively in Africa. This lineage
was the first to disperse around Africa. There is current
archaeological evidence supporting a major population expansion in
Africa approximately 90-130 thousand years ago. It has been proposed
that this event may have spread Haplogroup B throughout Africa.

Haplogroup B appears at low frequency all around Africa, but is at its
highest frequency in Pygmy populations.

Haplogroup C is
found throughout mainland Asia, the south Pacific, and at low frequency
in Native American populations. Haplogroup C originated in southern
Asia and spread in all directions. This lineage colonized New Guinea,
Australia, and north Asia, and currently is found with its highest
diversity in populations of India.

Haplogroup C3 is
believed to have originated in southeast or central Asia. This lineage
then spread into northern Asia, and then into the Americas.

Haplogroup D2
most likely derived from the D lineage in Japan. It is completely
restricted to Japan, and is a very diverse lineage within the
aboriginal Japanese and in the Japanese population around Okinawa.

Haplogroup E3a
is an Africa lineage. It is currently hypothesized that this haplogroup
dispersed south from northern Africa within the last 3,000 years, by
the Bantu agricultural expansion. E3a is also the most common lineage
among African Americans.

Haplogroup E3b is believed to
have evolved in the Middle East. It expanded into the Mediterranean
during the Pleistocene Neolithic expansion. It is currently distributed
around the Mediterranean, southern Europe, and in north and east Africa.

Haplogroup G
may have originated in India or Pakistan, and has dispersed into
central Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. The G2 branch of this
lineage (containing the P15 mutation) is found most often in Europe and
the Middle East.

Haplogroup H is nearly completely restricted to India, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan.

Haplogroups I, I1, and I1a
are nearly completely restricted to northwestern Europe. These would
most likely have been common within Viking populations. One lineage of
this group extends down into central Europe.

Haplogroup I1b
was derived within Viking/Scandinavian populations in northwest Europe
and has since spread down into southern Europe where it is present at
low frequencies.

Haplogroup J is found at highest
frequencies in Middle Eastern and north African populations where it
most likely evolved. This marker has been carried by Middle Eastern
traders into Europe, central Asia, India, and Pakistan.

Haplogroup J2
originated in the northern portion of the Fertile Crescent where it
later spread throughout central Asia, the Mediterranean, and south into
India. As with other populations with Mediterranean ancestry this
lineage is found within Jewish populations. The Cohen modal lineage is
found in Haplogroup J2.

Haplogroup Q is the lineage that
links Asia and the Americas. This lineage is found in North and Central
Asian populations as well as native Americans. This lineage is believed
to have originated in Central Asia and migrated through the
Altai/Baikal region of northern Eurasia into the Americas.

Haplogroup Q3
is the only lineage strictly associated with native American
populations. This haplogroup is defined by the presence of the M3
mutation (also known as SY103). This mutation occurred on the Q lineage
8-12 thousand years ago as the migration into the Americas was
underway. There is some debate as to on which side of the Bering Strait
this mutation occurred, but it definitely happened in the ancestors of
the Native American peoples.

Haplogroup R1a is believed
to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes north of the Black and
Caspian Seas. This lineage is believed to have originated in a
population of the Kurgan culture, known for the domestication of the
horse (approximately 3000 B.C.E.). These people were also believed to
be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group. This lineage
is currently found in central and western Asia, India, and in Slavic
populations of Eastern Europe.

Haplogroup R1b is the
most common haplogroup in European populations. It is believed to have
expanded throughout Europe as humans re-colonized after the last
glacial maximum 10-12 thousand years ago. This lineage is also the
haplogroup containing the Atlantic modal haplotype (HG1).