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router dela na nekih url jih samo polovično
Medo_m ::
Pozdravljeni
kupil sem si Internet Broadband Router Planet ,naj povem da Roter pri kolegu dela brez težav , moja težava pa je sledeča
nekateri url ji se mi odpirajo zelo počasi in se naložijo le delno med drugimi mikrosoftova stran se mi spoh ne odpre, slo teh stran mi dela normalno , programi tudi , recimo irc . mesenger itd.. tako da problem samo pri par url med drugimi kulinarika.net ki se mi tudi nalozi samo delno in mi je zelo motece . enako se mi dogaja na drugem racunalniku ki je tudi prikljoljen na rauter .... vecina url ji pa nimam nobenega problema , ko vspostavim povezavo brez roterja svari delajo vse normalno , naj še povem da pozarnega zidu nimam vkloplenega , povezava je ADSL nastavitve na racunalniku so iste kot pri kolegu , ne vem kaj naj bi to bilo
ali je ze kdo imel podobne tezave , ali pa če kdo ve rešitev in predloge naj mi odgovori
hvala
lp
kupil sem si Internet Broadband Router Planet ,naj povem da Roter pri kolegu dela brez težav , moja težava pa je sledeča
nekateri url ji se mi odpirajo zelo počasi in se naložijo le delno med drugimi mikrosoftova stran se mi spoh ne odpre, slo teh stran mi dela normalno , programi tudi , recimo irc . mesenger itd.. tako da problem samo pri par url med drugimi kulinarika.net ki se mi tudi nalozi samo delno in mi je zelo motece . enako se mi dogaja na drugem racunalniku ki je tudi prikljoljen na rauter .... vecina url ji pa nimam nobenega problema , ko vspostavim povezavo brez roterja svari delajo vse normalno , naj še povem da pozarnega zidu nimam vkloplenega , povezava je ADSL nastavitve na racunalniku so iste kot pri kolegu , ne vem kaj naj bi to bilo
ali je ze kdo imel podobne tezave , ali pa če kdo ve rešitev in predloge naj mi odgovori
hvala
lp
jsmith ::
Če se to dogaja danes (sobota 8.5. ob 8h) je problem v tem, da ima SiOL trenutno hude težave z DNS strežniki.
Medo_m ::
ne ni to to , ker če pa dam ruter ven in grem direkt prek modema je pa vse vredu, sej skoz bolj premisljujem da kak črv kje samo sem n enem racunalniku C: particijo formatiral , sej probal bom še da ne bo čis ničesar gor niti
d partcije
d partcije
Medo_m ::
a res nobeden ne ve
no naj vam povem da sem nesel vse k kolegu pa tam vse dela , tko da je lahko samo linija še , a je mozno da ruter tok pobere ker res da sem od centrale odaljen ene 1800 m
lp
no naj vam povem da sem nesel vse k kolegu pa tam vse dela , tko da je lahko samo linija še , a je mozno da ruter tok pobere ker res da sem od centrale odaljen ene 1800 m
lp
Daedalus ::
Gandalf - ni nujno, da bo pravi MTU... Meni dela recimo na 1464...
Evo, malo solate:
Can't access some websites while using a shared PPPoE connection
Intended For
Windows XP
Windows 2000
Windows Me
Windows 98
If you're using Windows' built-in support for Internet Connection Sharing, and your Internet connection is facilitated by PPPoE software (such as Enternet 300) or Windows XP's built-in PPPoE, you may experience this problem. Although any web site will be accessible on the "Host" computer, certain web sites will never load successfully from any of the "client" machines. (If you don't know what "Hosts" or "Clients" are with regard to ICS, read Internet Connection Sharing.) The problem is caused by an incompatible MTU networking setting: Windows' default is 1500, but PPPoE uses 1492 or 1454. Here's how to fix it:
Find the IP address of your gateway. If you're using Windows 2000 or XP, run IPCONFIG at a command prompt on the Host computer. If you're using Windows 98 or Me, run WINIPCFG on the Host computer. Either way, you'll get an address that looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (where the x's represent numbers).
Then, go to one of your Client machines, and type the following:
PING -f -l 1500 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
(where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the gateway address you obtained in the first step). You'll probably get an error message indicating that it must be fragmented. If you do, type the following:
PING -f -l 1492 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
If that doesn't work, try this:
PING -f -l 1454 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
The numbers in each of these examples (1500, 1492, 1454) are the MTU values. Continue issuing this command with lower and lower MTU numbers until you get ping responses instead of an error message. The highest MTU value that works is the one you need to be using. If an MTU of 1500 (the first command, above) does not produce an error, then this solution won't work for you.
The next step is to configure all your Client computers to use the new, lower MTU as the default for all Internet communication.
Windows 2000 and XP:
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE) on one of your "Client" machines.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Tcpip\ Parameters\ Interfaces.
There should be several subkeys under the Interfaces key; most likely, you'll find three. View the contents of each key by clicking, and find the one that corresponds to your primary network adapter; it will be the one with more values than the other two, and will have an IP address value set to something like 192.168.0.x.
Once you've found the correct subkey, create a new DWORD value in it (Edit -> New -> DWORD Value), and name the value MTU.
Double-click the new value, choose the Decimal option, and type the MTU value determined above.
Click Ok when you're done - you'll need to restart Windows for this change take effect.
Repeat this for each Client machine.
Windows 98/Me:
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE) on one of your "Client" machines.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ System\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Class\ Nettrans\.
Under that branch, find a key (numbered, such as 0005) that contains has TCP/IP assigned to the DriverDesc value.
Select New from the Edit menu, then String Value, and type MaxMTU for the name of the new value.
Double-click the new value, choose the Decimal option, and type the MTU value determined above(mine is 1454).
Click Ok when you're done - you'll need to restart Windows for this change take effect.
Repeat this for each Client machine.
Evo, malo solate:
Can't access some websites while using a shared PPPoE connection
Intended For
Windows XP
Windows 2000
Windows Me
Windows 98
If you're using Windows' built-in support for Internet Connection Sharing, and your Internet connection is facilitated by PPPoE software (such as Enternet 300) or Windows XP's built-in PPPoE, you may experience this problem. Although any web site will be accessible on the "Host" computer, certain web sites will never load successfully from any of the "client" machines. (If you don't know what "Hosts" or "Clients" are with regard to ICS, read Internet Connection Sharing.) The problem is caused by an incompatible MTU networking setting: Windows' default is 1500, but PPPoE uses 1492 or 1454. Here's how to fix it:
Find the IP address of your gateway. If you're using Windows 2000 or XP, run IPCONFIG at a command prompt on the Host computer. If you're using Windows 98 or Me, run WINIPCFG on the Host computer. Either way, you'll get an address that looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (where the x's represent numbers).
Then, go to one of your Client machines, and type the following:
PING -f -l 1500 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
(where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the gateway address you obtained in the first step). You'll probably get an error message indicating that it must be fragmented. If you do, type the following:
PING -f -l 1492 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
If that doesn't work, try this:
PING -f -l 1454 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
The numbers in each of these examples (1500, 1492, 1454) are the MTU values. Continue issuing this command with lower and lower MTU numbers until you get ping responses instead of an error message. The highest MTU value that works is the one you need to be using. If an MTU of 1500 (the first command, above) does not produce an error, then this solution won't work for you.
The next step is to configure all your Client computers to use the new, lower MTU as the default for all Internet communication.
Windows 2000 and XP:
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE) on one of your "Client" machines.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Tcpip\ Parameters\ Interfaces.
There should be several subkeys under the Interfaces key; most likely, you'll find three. View the contents of each key by clicking, and find the one that corresponds to your primary network adapter; it will be the one with more values than the other two, and will have an IP address value set to something like 192.168.0.x.
Once you've found the correct subkey, create a new DWORD value in it (Edit -> New -> DWORD Value), and name the value MTU.
Double-click the new value, choose the Decimal option, and type the MTU value determined above.
Click Ok when you're done - you'll need to restart Windows for this change take effect.
Repeat this for each Client machine.
Windows 98/Me:
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE) on one of your "Client" machines.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ System\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ Class\ Nettrans\.
Under that branch, find a key (numbered, such as 0005) that contains has TCP/IP assigned to the DriverDesc value.
Select New from the Edit menu, then String Value, and type MaxMTU for the name of the new value.
Double-click the new value, choose the Decimal option, and type the MTU value determined above(mine is 1454).
Click Ok when you're done - you'll need to restart Windows for this change take effect.
Repeat this for each Client machine.
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Medo_m ::
Daedalus
hvala se bom nekak znašel upam ven iz tega, ceprav angleščine lih ne obvladam , no MTU sem nastavil s pomočjo drctp na več cifer pa nič bolje , se vseno se mi zdi čudno da to samo na drugi lokaciji dela , na siolu se ne zmenijo ker prez ruterja povezave dela normalno , vglavnem kriza ...
hvala se bom nekak znašel upam ven iz tega, ceprav angleščine lih ne obvladam , no MTU sem nastavil s pomočjo drctp na več cifer pa nič bolje , se vseno se mi zdi čudno da to samo na drugi lokaciji dela , na siolu se ne zmenijo ker prez ruterja povezave dela normalno , vglavnem kriza ...
2nemesis ::
Sam sem isti problem opazil.
Sumim da Siol dela neke vrste trafic shaping/killing. Mislim da hočejo omejit uporabnike za požarnim zidom.
Za routanje uporabljam linux NAT. Preko njega so povezane oknaste mašince.
Na linux mašini mi lepo nalaga www.microsoft.com, www.amazon.com ...,
medtem ko mi na mašini znotraj omrežja ne dela.
Zaminivo je, da ne dela niti preko Siolovega proxy-ja, ki je na portu 3128 in niti na proxy-ju na linuxu, če je port nastavljen na 3128. Če dam port na kakšno drugo cifro, začuda deluje. Če uporabim kakšen tuj proxy, na kakšnem nestandardnem portu, tudi dela.
V soboto 8. maja dopoldne so se ravno s tem igral. Preko proxy-ja je bila 15 sekundna zamuda, kot pri določenih programih na linux-u ( curl). Preko NAT-a ni bilo zamude.
Medo_m: poišči nek tuj proxy, ki ni na portu 3128 in ga vpiši v brsklalnik.
Sumim da Siol dela neke vrste trafic shaping/killing. Mislim da hočejo omejit uporabnike za požarnim zidom.
Za routanje uporabljam linux NAT. Preko njega so povezane oknaste mašince.
Na linux mašini mi lepo nalaga www.microsoft.com, www.amazon.com ...,
medtem ko mi na mašini znotraj omrežja ne dela.
Zaminivo je, da ne dela niti preko Siolovega proxy-ja, ki je na portu 3128 in niti na proxy-ju na linuxu, če je port nastavljen na 3128. Če dam port na kakšno drugo cifro, začuda deluje. Če uporabim kakšen tuj proxy, na kakšnem nestandardnem portu, tudi dela.
V soboto 8. maja dopoldne so se ravno s tem igral. Preko proxy-ja je bila 15 sekundna zamuda, kot pri določenih programih na linux-u ( curl). Preko NAT-a ni bilo zamude.
Medo_m: poišči nek tuj proxy, ki ni na portu 3128 in ga vpiši v brsklalnik.
2nemesis ::
Medo_m ::
2nemesis
ne boš verjel da dela, prek proxy ki si mi ga napisal . a mi lahko še kak naslov napišeš,
vglavnem www.vizija.si dela ko mi prej ni , samo to je samo zacasna rešitev , drugace treba ukrapat dalje ...
ne boš verjel da dela, prek proxy ki si mi ga napisal . a mi lahko še kak naslov napišeš,
vglavnem www.vizija.si dela ko mi prej ni , samo to je samo zacasna rešitev , drugace treba ukrapat dalje ...
2nemesis ::
Klikni na moj zgornji link za google, te direktno do strani zastonjskih proxy-jev pripelje.
Verjamem da dela, ker imam isti problem kot ti, ta problem sem opazil tudi že pri prijateljih.
Fora je v tem da folk ne pogrunta da je kaj narobe in misli da stran ne dela, problem pa je po moje pri Siol-u. Zelo podobna fora kot takrat z izbrisanimi maili. Takrat je men k sreči samo en mail zbrisal, preden sem opazil.
Jst bi rekel da ga Siol serje!!
Verjamem da dela, ker imam isti problem kot ti, ta problem sem opazil tudi že pri prijateljih.
Fora je v tem da folk ne pogrunta da je kaj narobe in misli da stran ne dela, problem pa je po moje pri Siol-u. Zelo podobna fora kot takrat z izbrisanimi maili. Takrat je men k sreči samo en mail zbrisal, preden sem opazil.
Jst bi rekel da ga Siol serje!!
Medo_m ::
2nemesis kaj naj ti drugega recem kot hvala , mogoče se ti pa to po kaki drugi poti vrne
tudi ostalim hvala za trud
Lep dan vam zelim še naprej
tudi ostalim hvala za trud
Lep dan vam zelim še naprej
Medo_m ::
živjo
se nekaj me zanima
ali ima kdo Siol Tv pa rouer in mu to dela vse vredu, in kako ima to povezano
mogoče je tu kakšna caka
se nekaj me zanima
ali ima kdo Siol Tv pa rouer in mu to dela vse vredu, in kako ima to povezano
mogoče je tu kakšna caka
Redkvica ::
Medo: enkrat se je ta problem kot se spomnim tu že obravnaval (SiolTv pa ruter pa to). Malo poskusi pobrskat po starih temah.
Medo_m ::
Evo po dolgem času mi je to ˝proradilo ˝
nastavil MTU v ruterju 1464 namesto 1492 , mogoče še komu pride prav
hvala vsem za trud
nastavil MTU v ruterju 1464 namesto 1492 , mogoče še komu pride prav
hvala vsem za trud
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